c*******r
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p**********t
发帖数: 2636 | 2 recommended for general use, like bring one or two when ever you go climbing?
【在 c*******r 的大作中提到】
: r.t.
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T*********e
发帖数: 39815 | 3 this pulley is very good for self crevasse rescue and rock rescue
I always have one on my harness
climbing?
【在 p**********t 的大作中提到】
: recommended for general use, like bring one or two when ever you go climbing?
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c*******r
发帖数: 13580 | 4 It's THE best prusik minding pulley, and I have used almost everything < $50
. It's ideal for rigging a self-rescue system. For glacier climbs, everyone
brings a pulley, for alpine rock climbs, there should at least be 2 pulleys
in the whole team. A prusik mind pulley is needed for the anchor side, the
rope side can be anything.
Not recomended for rigging a hauling system.
climbing?
【在 p**********t 的大作中提到】
: recommended for general use, like bring one or two when ever you go climbing?
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p**********t
发帖数: 2636 | 5 Cool. I just ordered the last one that REI has in stock.
I tried pulling my trad partner with binners and got him start moving using
a 1:9 system. I've been thinking about pulley since then.
50
everyone
pulleys
【在 c*******r 的大作中提到】
: It's THE best prusik minding pulley, and I have used almost everything < $50
: . It's ideal for rigging a self-rescue system. For glacier climbs, everyone
: brings a pulley, for alpine rock climbs, there should at least be 2 pulleys
: in the whole team. A prusik mind pulley is needed for the anchor side, the
: rope side can be anything.
: Not recomended for rigging a hauling system.
:
: climbing?
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f********t
发帖数: 4574 | 6 zkss三个on sale的Petzl pully的用途?
Rescue, Fixe, Mini
【在 c*******r 的大作中提到】
: r.t.
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T*********e
发帖数: 39815 | 7 Rescue pulley is good for S&R guys, not for climbers
forget about fixe, it is not pursik minding pulley
【在 f********t 的大作中提到】
: zkss三个on sale的Petzl pully的用途?
: Rescue, Fixe, Mini
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c*******r
发帖数: 13580 | 8 Mini is best at prusik minding. Fixe is a general use pulley. Rescue is for
professional rescue, not self rescue, i.e. high strength gears, specific
rescue equipments.
【在 f********t 的大作中提到】
: zkss三个on sale的Petzl pully的用途?
: Rescue, Fixe, Mini
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f********t
发帖数: 4574 | |
T*********e
发帖数: 39815 | 10 you guys are lucky
I paid full price when I got this pulley in 07
【在 f********t 的大作中提到】
: Thanks. Got one.
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f********t
发帖数: 4574 | 11 You are the lucky one. Three years of usage is priceless
【在 T*********e 的大作中提到】
: you guys are lucky
: I paid full price when I got this pulley in 07
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S********t
发帖数: 18987 | 12 结构上为什么FIXIE就不是prusik minding呢?
如果用prusik+FIXIE
难道prusik就咬不住绳子?
【在 T*********e 的大作中提到】
: Rescue pulley is good for S&R guys, not for climbers
: forget about fixe, it is not pursik minding pulley
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T*********e
发帖数: 39815 | 13 No, pusik minding means the pulley can "stop" the prusik to pass the pulley.
..
【在 S********t 的大作中提到】
: 结构上为什么FIXIE就不是prusik minding呢?
: 如果用prusik+FIXIE
: 难道prusik就咬不住绳子?
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S********t
发帖数: 18987 | 14 那FIXIE两边的铁片不也能档住绳结么,
还是说因为底边不够平,
拉的时候抓结变形导致阻力大
pulley.
【在 T*********e 的大作中提到】
: No, pusik minding means the pulley can "stop" the prusik to pass the pulley.
: ..
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T*********e
发帖数: 39815 | 15 挡不住
【在 S********t 的大作中提到】
: 那FIXIE两边的铁片不也能档住绳结么,
: 还是说因为底边不够平,
: 拉的时候抓结变形导致阻力大
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: pulley.
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c*******r
发帖数: 13580 | 16 太大。I don't know why, it's not rocket science, but all other pulleys just
don't work as well as Petzl Mini.
【在 S********t 的大作中提到】
: 那FIXIE两边的铁片不也能档住绳结么,
: 还是说因为底边不够平,
: 拉的时候抓结变形导致阻力大
:
: pulley.
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T*********e
发帖数: 39815 | 17 形状不对，上面那部分是圆的，卡不住prusik
just
【在 c*******r 的大作中提到】
: 太大。I don't know why, it's not rocket science, but all other pulleys just
: don't work as well as Petzl Mini.
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c*******r
发帖数: 13580 | 18 I mean, I don't why others can't make prusik minding pulleys, it's not
rocket science.
【在 T*********e 的大作中提到】
: 形状不对，上面那部分是圆的，卡不住prusik
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: just
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T*********e
发帖数: 39815 | 19 太大
很多人用pulley不一定用prusik，所以这个本来就是附加需求
【在 c*******r 的大作中提到】
: I mean, I don't why others can't make prusik minding pulleys, it's not
: rocket science.
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c*******r
发帖数: 13580 | 20 但是很多pulley都号称是prusik minding的，they just don't work well
【在 T*********e 的大作中提到】
: 太大
: 很多人用pulley不一定用prusik，所以这个本来就是附加需求
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T*********e
发帖数: 39815 | 21 那个就是design水平问题了
其实petzl mini也不是所有时候都最好用
我也见过它不好用，其他的好用的情况， 和绳子粗细，prusik粗细，具体的场景都有关
不过通常说，petzl mini对于climber self rescue是最好用的，也是最popular的
【在 c*******r 的大作中提到】
: 但是很多pulley都号称是prusik minding的，they just don't work well
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S********t
发帖数: 18987 | 22 钓鱼的装置里有个档珠,
同理,如果加个圆管在PRUSIK的上面,就可以挡了,I GUESS,
不过没意义了,直接买Prusik-Minding就可以了
just
【在 c*******r 的大作中提到】
: 太大。I don't know why, it's not rocket science, but all other pulleys just
: don't work as well as Petzl Mini.
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T*********e
发帖数: 39815 | 23 还这么费劲
普通pulley + ATC一样可以用
不过你每增加一个东西，就增大一份摩擦力，你就要多花一分力气去拉绳子
【在 S********t 的大作中提到】
: 钓鱼的装置里有个档珠,
: 同理,如果加个圆管在PRUSIK的上面,就可以挡了,I GUESS,
: 不过没意义了,直接买Prusik-Minding就可以了
:
: just
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c*******r
发帖数: 13580 | 24 那还要穿绳子
【在 S********t 的大作中提到】
: 钓鱼的装置里有个档珠,
: 同理,如果加个圆管在PRUSIK的上面,就可以挡了,I GUESS,
: 不过没意义了,直接买Prusik-Minding就可以了
:
: just
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S********t
发帖数: 18987 | 25 DUCTTAPE绕几圈? 算了, 我都不想麻烦了
【在 c*******r 的大作中提到】
: 那还要穿绳子
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c*******r
发帖数: 13580 | 26 I'd just get a Petzl Mini
【在 S********t 的大作中提到】
: DUCTTAPE绕几圈? 算了, 我都不想麻烦了
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