P*****0
发帖数: 34 | 1 本信的英文版附在下面。这封信是想提醒大家SJR23可能会触发一场族裔冲突，而这场
族裔战争亚裔很难取胜，所以大家需要谨慎和警惕。吴先生不希望亚裔成为这场战争的
牺牲品。
-------------------
Dear Like-Minded:
See below for something (SJR23)* that many of us will like, perhaps
greatly. But let buyers beware! It is dangerous politics, we need to
play it smart!
As you may know Mei Mei is the wife of Senator Huff, who is CA's Senate
minority leaders and a politician. Up till a few weeks ago, the Republicans
in the CA legislature lived under the absolute rule of the Democrats who
had more than 2/3 vote in both the Senate and the Assembly -- those of you
who have not been in politics are extremely unlikely to appreciate what that
means. All those ELECTED Republicans became non-persons. Nothing they
wanted to do will be approved. All Republican sponsored bills would be "
dead on arrival", because the Dems don't even need a
single Republican vote for passing budget bills -- hence no aid pro quo,
period.
How can a Party lose that badly? Who knows. None of them can be too
politically astute.
So finally, inspired by the effectiveness of Ch-Ams community in opposing
the SCA 5, it is beginning to play SMART politics -- supporting ChAm/AsAm
to drive a wedge between the Dem Party and AsAms -- fine, I want the Dems to
show more respect to us.
However, there is one thing that none of us should help, NOT EVEN
TOLERATE -- to let the those nuts in partisan politics to drive a wedge
between Hispanic/black communities and the AsAm community. BEWARE, some of
the folks behind that wedge
are liberals -- those who feel humiliated by their support of SCA 5 and want
to fan a fire between Hispanics/Black and AsAms to justifying their past
slavish submittal to the Hispanic and black politicians.
Can Sen. Huff get his bill through? I don't know. I don't know enough
about CA legislature politics. But it is an apparent WEDGE to keep the fire
going between the ChAm community and the Democrats and there could also be
a hope that the Black/Hispanics senators and Assembly-person will boycott
this bill. DANGER. Don't take the bait. Unlike SCA 5, such a bill
doesn't affect reality. Indeed, it can be brought up anytime. Let all the
furies on the Hispanic/black/Dem sides die down first.
80-20 has successfully played one party against another in the past and
in the SCA 5 campaign. Don't let ourselves
be a pawn in other people's partisan political games!!!!
BEWARE. BEWARE.
* SJR stands for Senate Joint Resolution, which means it needs to pass both
the CA Senate and the Assembly.
PS I am not charging Mrs. Huff with anything. I just want you to know that
politicians are always good at the "Divide and Conquer" game.
I will indeed continue to communicate respectfully with politicians on
both sides. I've recently initiated communicating with Dem leader about the
dangers of having the Hispanic/black politicians behaving too emotionally. |
l*******b
发帖数: 2586 | 2 对共和党人太阴险了，只会政治投机。只有民主党人的民主是真正落到实处的，同胞们
要睁大眼睛呀！
【在 P*****0 的大作中提到】
: 本信的英文版附在下面。这封信是想提醒大家SJR23可能会触发一场族裔冲突，而这场
: 族裔战争亚裔很难取胜，所以大家需要谨慎和警惕。吴先生不希望亚裔成为这场战争的
: 牺牲品。
: -------------------
: Dear Like-Minded:
: See below for something (SJR23)* that many of us will like, perhaps
: greatly. But let buyers beware! It is dangerous politics, we need to
: play it smart!
: As you may know Mei Mei is the wife of Senator Huff, who is CA's Senate
: minority leaders and a politician. Up till a few weeks ago, the Republicans
|
L**P
发帖数: 3792 | 3 您太搞笑了
民主黨搞個“遺憾”，歡呼雀躍，罵共和黨不關係華裔
共和黨搞個“道歉”，提高警惕，這是共和黨的陰謀
還什麼共和黨在亞裔和民主黨之間插一腳，這sca5從頭到尾都是民主黨搞出來的，共和
黨從來都是反對票。
沒錯，sca5能被擱置，是我們努力的結果，是有針對性的幾個亞裔民主黨議員做工作的
結果。但是別太傻了，如果沒有共和黨保證的全黨反對票提供基礎，你找那幾個亞裔民
主黨議員有什麼用？
此外，別扯什麼種族對立了，共和黨南加3月9日的反sca5大會可是各個族裔都喊人來撐
場面了，白的黑的西裔，華韓越，都有
【在 P*****0 的大作中提到】
: 本信的英文版附在下面。这封信是想提醒大家SJR23可能会触发一场族裔冲突，而这场
: 族裔战争亚裔很难取胜，所以大家需要谨慎和警惕。吴先生不希望亚裔成为这场战争的
: 牺牲品。
: -------------------
: Dear Like-Minded:
: See below for something (SJR23)* that many of us will like, perhaps
: greatly. But let buyers beware! It is dangerous politics, we need to
: play it smart!
: As you may know Mei Mei is the wife of Senator Huff, who is CA's Senate
: minority leaders and a politician. Up till a few weeks ago, the Republicans
|
n****l
发帖数: 6652 | 4 如果西裔或非裔为了反对共和党而反对这个议案，那说明他们是白痴，这样的少数族裔
战友是猪一样的队友。。。
挺好的一个试金石，只能说明民主党太容易被人钉楔子了。
亚裔怎么办，反对？是否比猪还猪？
这只是考验一下民主党，如果连这个都反对，以后民主党不就臭大街了吗？当年不是民
主党搞的排华法案吗？
怀疑这是吴仙标写的。。。
【在 P*****0 的大作中提到】
: 本信的英文版附在下面。这封信是想提醒大家SJR23可能会触发一场族裔冲突，而这场
: 族裔战争亚裔很难取胜，所以大家需要谨慎和警惕。吴先生不希望亚裔成为这场战争的
: 牺牲品。
: -------------------
: Dear Like-Minded:
: See below for something (SJR23)* that many of us will like, perhaps
: greatly. But let buyers beware! It is dangerous politics, we need to
: play it smart!
: As you may know Mei Mei is the wife of Senator Huff, who is CA's Senate
: minority leaders and a politician. Up till a few weeks ago, the Republicans
|
L**P
发帖数: 3792 | 5 吴仙标沒這麼弱吧？不可能吧？這基本沒啥正常邏輯思維的水平呀
【在 n****l 的大作中提到】
: 如果西裔或非裔为了反对共和党而反对这个议案，那说明他们是白痴，这样的少数族裔
: 战友是猪一样的队友。。。
: 挺好的一个试金石，只能说明民主党太容易被人钉楔子了。
: 亚裔怎么办，反对？是否比猪还猪？
: 这只是考验一下民主党，如果连这个都反对，以后民主党不就臭大街了吗？当年不是民
: 主党搞的排华法案吗？
: 怀疑这是吴仙标写的。。。
|
g********w
发帖数: 2539 | 6 明显不是吴，他自己作假写别人名字。黑墨党的托就都这种水平？
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 8.2.2
【在 n****l 的大作中提到】
: 如果西裔或非裔为了反对共和党而反对这个议案，那说明他们是白痴，这样的少数族裔
: 战友是猪一样的队友。。。
: 挺好的一个试金石，只能说明民主党太容易被人钉楔子了。
: 亚裔怎么办，反对？是否比猪还猪？
: 这只是考验一下民主党，如果连这个都反对，以后民主党不就臭大街了吗？当年不是民
: 主党搞的排华法案吗？
: 怀疑这是吴仙标写的。。。
|
L**P
发帖数: 3792 | 7 應該不是，這個水平實在太差，名字也起的比較搞笑pac8020
【在 g********w 的大作中提到】
: 明显不是吴，他自己作假写别人名字。黑墨党的托就都这种水平？
:
: ★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 8.2.2
|
l*******b
发帖数: 2586 | 8 民主党就是好呀，这两天病了。一直就在梦想我要是阳光的加州多好。好好想办法当上
公民，何必把自己累病了。躺在沙滩上灌着水，多好呀。
之間插一腳，這sca5從頭到尾都是民主黨搞出來的，共和
【在 L**P 的大作中提到】
: 您太搞笑了
: 民主黨搞個“遺憾”，歡呼雀躍，罵共和黨不關係華裔
: 共和黨搞個“道歉”，提高警惕，這是共和黨的陰謀
: 還什麼共和黨在亞裔和民主黨之間插一腳，這sca5從頭到尾都是民主黨搞出來的，共和
: 黨從來都是反對票。
: 沒錯，sca5能被擱置，是我們努力的結果，是有針對性的幾個亞裔民主黨議員做工作的
: 結果。但是別太傻了，如果沒有共和黨保證的全黨反對票提供基礎，你找那幾個亞裔民
: 主黨議員有什麼用？
: 此外，別扯什麼種族對立了，共和黨南加3月9日的反sca5大會可是各個族裔都喊人來撐
: 場面了，白的黑的西裔，華韓越，都有
|
L**P
发帖数: 3792 | 9 來吧來吧，多生孩子早致富
【在 l*******b 的大作中提到】
: 民主党就是好呀，这两天病了。一直就在梦想我要是阳光的加州多好。好好想办法当上
: 公民，何必把自己累病了。躺在沙滩上灌着水，多好呀。
:
: 之間插一腳，這sca5從頭到尾都是民主黨搞出來的，共和
|
y*s
发帖数: 2868 | 10 政治背后就是利益瓜分。现在非裔墨裔已经看准亚裔盘子里的奶酪了，亚裔不奋起反抗
保护自己利益，到最后也是死路一条。你这种瞻前顾后怕得罪这个怠慢那个的思想，就
是心理上的东亚病夫，有这种心理，走到哪里都是任人予取予夺的砧板上的肥肉。
另外，支持共和党不代表要反对民主党。扶植共和党的同时也要支持民主党里的亲华势
力。扶植共和党是棒子，支持民主党的亲华势力是甜枣。谁给利益多就投谁的票。这样
华人群体才有政治发言权。否则很容易被人利用，忙活半天自己利益没得到保障全为别
人做嫁衣裳。 |
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n****l
发帖数: 6652 | 11 嗯，怀疑是伪造的。谁说话还注意呀，注意呀的。
【在 g********w 的大作中提到】
: 明显不是吴，他自己作假写别人名字。黑墨党的托就都这种水平？
:
: ★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 8.2.2
|
L**P
发帖数: 3792 | 12 原來這樣，看來樓主是通過造假輿論來要分裂吳先標和共和黨？ 吳不是最近號召投共
和黨麼？
這要是造假，吳可以找樓主麻煩了。
【在 n****l 的大作中提到】
: 嗯，怀疑是伪造的。谁说话还注意呀，注意呀的。
|
s*********6
发帖数: 21 | |
S******2
发帖数: 94 | 14 Well said. 对民主党太失望了。
【在 y*s 的大作中提到】
: 政治背后就是利益瓜分。现在非裔墨裔已经看准亚裔盘子里的奶酪了，亚裔不奋起反抗
: 保护自己利益，到最后也是死路一条。你这种瞻前顾后怕得罪这个怠慢那个的思想，就
: 是心理上的东亚病夫，有这种心理，走到哪里都是任人予取予夺的砧板上的肥肉。
: 另外，支持共和党不代表要反对民主党。扶植共和党的同时也要支持民主党里的亲华势
: 力。扶植共和党是棒子，支持民主党的亲华势力是甜枣。谁给利益多就投谁的票。这样
: 华人群体才有政治发言权。否则很容易被人利用，忙活半天自己利益没得到保障全为别
: 人做嫁衣裳。
|
j*****v
发帖数: 7717 | 15 “
这批不俱好意的人,有保守的共和党,也有自
由派的民主党人士—那些因为自己起初支持SCA5而羞愧不已, 现在又想在西裔/非裔和
亚裔之间煽风点火，来表明自己对西裔和非裔政客的随从是智慧的选择。
”
黑的能说成白的 |
t****u
发帖数: 8614 | 16 这个Resolution原本是准备由Bob Huff与Leland Yee一起提出的。
Leland被抓了，Bob才自己提出。牵扯不到阴谋论吧！
另外对排华法案的道歉，原本民主党也推动过一次，怎么牵扯到亚裔与西裔对决上面？
这个弯子有点大。
真是吴老先生写的？
【在 P*****0 的大作中提到】
: 本信的英文版附在下面。这封信是想提醒大家SJR23可能会触发一场族裔冲突，而这场
: 族裔战争亚裔很难取胜，所以大家需要谨慎和警惕。吴先生不希望亚裔成为这场战争的
: 牺牲品。
: -------------------
: Dear Like-Minded:
: See below for something (SJR23)* that many of us will like, perhaps
: greatly. But let buyers beware! It is dangerous politics, we need to
: play it smart!
: As you may know Mei Mei is the wife of Senator Huff, who is CA's Senate
: minority leaders and a politician. Up till a few weeks ago, the Republicans
|
i*****0
发帖数: 1113 | 17 这个贴应该是伪造的，我刚去80/20网站上找这个文章的英文版，没有找到！
http://80-20initiative.blogspot.com/
为了避免混乱，版主请删伪造贴！
【在 P*****0 的大作中提到】
: 本信的英文版附在下面。这封信是想提醒大家SJR23可能会触发一场族裔冲突，而这场
: 族裔战争亚裔很难取胜，所以大家需要谨慎和警惕。吴先生不希望亚裔成为这场战争的
: 牺牲品。
: -------------------
: Dear Like-Minded:
: See below for something (SJR23)* that many of us will like, perhaps
: greatly. But let buyers beware! It is dangerous politics, we need to
: play it smart!
: As you may know Mei Mei is the wife of Senator Huff, who is CA's Senate
: minority leaders and a politician. Up till a few weeks ago, the Republicans
|
n*****g
发帖数: 626 | 18
Yes, there is NO email or blog post on English
version of this article. If it were true, someone
could have leaked an internal 80-20 memo which
should not be released to public.
If it were true, it indicates several things --
1. 80-20 does NOT have a good ground
operation in California, it is seriously
misinformed of reality in California;
2. 80-20 does NOT believe we can get rid of
DEM super majority due to this misinformation.
Again it will be WE THE PEOPLE (not 80-20 or any other
organization) who will decide how WE THE PEOPLE
vote on June 3rd 2014. No matter what happened,
WE THE PEOPLE will vote for Republican, because
WE THE PEOPLE had enough already!
【在 i*****0 的大作中提到】
: 这个贴应该是伪造的，我刚去80/20网站上找这个文章的英文版，没有找到！
: http://80-20initiative.blogspot.com/
: 为了避免混乱，版主请删伪造贴！
|
P*****0
发帖数: 34 | 19 这是本信的英文版。这封信是想提醒大家SJR23可能会触发一场族裔冲突，而这场族裔
战争亚裔很难取胜，所以大家需要谨慎和警惕。吴先生不希望亚裔成为这场战争的牺牲
品。
-------------------
Dear Like-Minded:
See below for something (SJR23)* that many of us will like, perhaps
greatly. But let buyers beware! It is dangerous politics, we need to
play it smart!
As you may know Mei Mei is the wife of Senator Huff, who is CA's Senate
minority leaders and a politician. Up till a few weeks ago, the Republicans
in the CA legislature lived under the absolute rule of the Democrats who
had
more than 2/3 vote in both the Senate and the Assembly -- those of you who
have not been in politics are extremely unlikely to appreciate what that
means. All those ELECTED Republicans became non-persons. Nothing they
wanted to
do will be approved. All Republican sponsored bills would be "dead on
arrival", because the Dems don't even need a single Republican vote for
passing budget bills -- hence no aid pro quo, period.
How can a Party lose that badly? Who knows. None of them can be too
politically astute.
So finally, inspired by the effectiveness of Ch-Ams community in opposing
the SCA 5, it is beginning to play SMART politics -- supporting ChAm/AsAm
to drive a wedge between the Dem Party and AsAms -- fine, I want the Dems to
show more respect to us.
However, there is one thing that none of us should help, NOT EVEN
TOLERATE -- to let the those nuts in partisan politics to drive a wedge
between Hispanic/black communities and the AsAm community. BEWARE, some of
the folks behind that wedge
are liberals -- those who feel humiliated by their support of SCA 5 and want
to fan a fire between Hispanics/black and AsAms to justifying their past
slavish submittal to the Hispanic and black politicians.
Can Sen. Huff get his bill through? I don't know. I don't know enough
about CA legislature politics. But it is an apparent WEDGE to keep the fire
going between the ChAm community and the Democrats and there could also be
a hope that the black/hispanics senators and Assembly-person will boycott
this bill. DANGER. Don't take the bait. Unlike SCA 5, such a bill doesn'
t affect reality. Indeed, it can be brought up anytime. Let all the furies
on the Hispanic/black/Dem sides die down first.
80-20 has successfully played one party against another in the past and
in the SCA 5 campaign. Don't let ourselves be a pawn in other people's
partisan political games!!!!
BEWARE. BEWARE.
* SJR stands for Senate Joint Resolution, which means it needs to pass both
the CA Senate and the Assembly.
PS I am not charging Mrs. Huff with anything. I just want you to know that
politicians are always good at the "Divide and Conquer" game.
I will indeed continue to communicate respectfully with politicians on
both sides. I've recently initiated communicating with Dem leader about the
dangers of having the Hispanic/black politicians behaving too emotionally.
SB Woo |
r******8
发帖数: 926 | 20 不明白当时那几个亚裔民主党不是声势浩大的推排华法案的道歉，并且号称成功时，那
时候为什么从来没听说是加深族裔矛盾。现在共和党和亚裔走近点了，这些族裔的
CONCERN都纷纷冒出来了？不懂，求解。 |
|
|
n*****g
发帖数: 626 | 21 Your Chinese translation is doing 80-20
(an anti-SCA5 ally) a great damage. It
does not reflect the moderate tone by
Mr. Woo himself. Please remove the Chinese
version.
【在 P*****0 的大作中提到】
: 这是本信的英文版。这封信是想提醒大家SJR23可能会触发一场族裔冲突，而这场族裔
: 战争亚裔很难取胜，所以大家需要谨慎和警惕。吴先生不希望亚裔成为这场战争的牺牲
: 品。
: -------------------
: Dear Like-Minded:
: See below for something (SJR23)* that many of us will like, perhaps
: greatly. But let buyers beware! It is dangerous politics, we need to
: play it smart!
: As you may know Mei Mei is the wife of Senator Huff, who is CA's Senate
: minority leaders and a politician. Up till a few weeks ago, the Republicans
|
s*********5
发帖数: 5637 | 22 This is a particular sensitive time right now, as some Latino and Black
Caucus members were very upset that we stopped SCA5 for now, and they have
started to treat this as a racial thing. They withdrew endorsements to Sen.
Ted Lieu and stopped supporting a bill authored by Assemblymember Al
Muratsuchi.
Mr. Woo does not want to see the Asian Community be hurt by the racial war
and party politics.
【在 r******8 的大作中提到】
: 不明白当时那几个亚裔民主党不是声势浩大的推排华法案的道歉，并且号称成功时，那
: 时候为什么从来没听说是加深族裔矛盾。现在共和党和亚裔走近点了，这些族裔的
: CONCERN都纷纷冒出来了？不懂，求解。
|
R******e
发帖数: 52 | 23 我建议你把中文删了吧，表达的感情色彩和英文差太远，参杂太多翻译者个人偏见，从
很多用词能看出来，不但表达不了吴先生的担忧和分析，只能引起看的人反感。 |
R******e
发帖数: 52 | 24 对，这个中文翻译太烂，完全不是一个意思，不知道是不是翻译的故意捣乱
【在 n*****g 的大作中提到】
: Your Chinese translation is doing 80-20
: (an anti-SCA5 ally) a great damage. It
: does not reflect the moderate tone by
: Mr. Woo himself. Please remove the Chinese
: version.
|
D*******1
发帖数: 11303 | 25 SIGH
【在 t****u 的大作中提到】
: 这个Resolution原本是准备由Bob Huff与Leland Yee一起提出的。
: Leland被抓了，Bob才自己提出。牵扯不到阴谋论吧！
: 另外对排华法案的道歉，原本民主党也推动过一次，怎么牵扯到亚裔与西裔对决上面？
: 这个弯子有点大。
: 真是吴老先生写的？
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t*******e
发帖数: 1633 | 26 老黑劳模已经通过SCA5对亚裔宣战了，难道只有把自己应得的利益拱手相让才能平息“
种族战争”？
另外这个翻译的也和原文太不一样了，非常明显的，赤裸裸的歪曲英文的原意，楼主这
是欺负大家不懂英文？ 民主党的党棍们给主子做damage control的手段也太下三滥了
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g********w
发帖数: 2539 | 27 你们未免忒天真了，他能伪造一个中文，怎么不会伪造英文了？
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 8.2.2
【在 R******e 的大作中提到】
: 我建议你把中文删了吧，表达的感情色彩和英文差太远，参杂太多翻译者个人偏见，从
: 很多用词能看出来，不但表达不了吴先生的担忧和分析，只能引起看的人反感。
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t*b
发帖数: 850 | 28 三反版主要骨干已经成功被民主党三反分部花重金收买了 |
s********r
发帖数: 2308 | 29 80-20 either 是民主党的一条狗 or 就是个笑话
【在 P*****0 的大作中提到】
: 本信的英文版附在下面。这封信是想提醒大家SJR23可能会触发一场族裔冲突，而这场
: 族裔战争亚裔很难取胜，所以大家需要谨慎和警惕。吴先生不希望亚裔成为这场战争的
: 牺牲品。
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: Dear Like-Minded:
: See below for something (SJR23)* that many of us will like, perhaps
: greatly. But let buyers beware! It is dangerous politics, we need to
: play it smart!
: As you may know Mei Mei is the wife of Senator Huff, who is CA's Senate
: minority leaders and a politician. Up till a few weeks ago, the Republicans
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