c****x
发帖数: 127 | 1 My IB account performance since 1/2/09 to date. |
I*****e
发帖数: 15123 | 2 enlarge it. can't clearly see it
【在 c****x 的大作中提到】
: My IB account performance since 1/2/09 to date.
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H**********g
发帖数: 1312 | 3 搞了哪些ticker？
thanks
【在 c****x 的大作中提到】
: My IB account performance since 1/2/09 to date.
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c****x
发帖数: 127 | 4
Single click on them and they will enlarge.
【在 I*****e 的大作中提到】
: enlarge it. can't clearly see it
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N****O
发帖数: 4202 | |
I*****e
发帖数: 15123 | 6 how much is the cost? share with us. :)
【在 c****x 的大作中提到】
: My IB account performance since 1/2/09 to date.
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f*******e
发帖数: 1161 | 7 一路向北！
【在 c****x 的大作中提到】
: My IB account performance since 1/2/09 to date.
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w****k
发帖数: 6244 | 8 529x
NB!
【在 c****x 的大作中提到】
: My IB account performance since 1/2/09 to date.
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w****k
发帖数: 6244 | 9 搞的啥玩意啊
option，还是future
股票这个幅度，几乎是不可能
【在 c****x 的大作中提到】
: My IB account performance since 1/2/09 to date.
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y*****6
发帖数: 414 | 10 正准备回复刚才有人计算的五千多万的时候，被删了。。
是50多w，呵呵 |
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c****x
发帖数: 127 | 11
90% option, 10% stock.
【在 w****k 的大作中提到】
: 搞的啥玩意啊
: option，还是future
: 股票这个幅度，几乎是不可能
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c****x
发帖数: 127 | 12
见笑, 见笑
【在 y*****6 的大作中提到】
: 正准备回复刚才有人计算的五千多万的时候，被删了。。
: 是50多w，呵呵
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f*******e
发帖数: 1161 | 13 讲讲经验
【在 c****x 的大作中提到】
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: 见笑, 见笑
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H**********g
发帖数: 1312 | 14 did you hedge your options?
thanks
【在 c****x 的大作中提到】
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: 见笑, 见笑
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L*****C
发帖数: 626 | 15 师兄 你玩options有什么秘技呀 指点一下小弟吧 感激不尽 |
c****x
发帖数: 127 | 16
谈不上秘技, 小小经验而已: Stick with credit spreads and put selling. only
buy call when odds is overwhelming in your favor and buy far OTMs for
maximum leverage. Use strict risk control rules. use probe order to detect
market interest.
【在 L*****C 的大作中提到】
: 师兄 你玩options有什么秘技呀 指点一下小弟吧 感激不尽
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I*****e
发帖数: 15123 | 17 Cong!!!!! :)
good to learn
【在 c****x 的大作中提到】
:
: 谈不上秘技, 小小经验而已: Stick with credit spreads and put selling. only
: buy call when odds is overwhelming in your favor and buy far OTMs for
: maximum leverage. Use strict risk control rules. use probe order to detect
: market interest.
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c********t
发帖数: 5706 | 18 投了多少？要是一万，就挣了52万啊。你是单身吗？
【在 c****x 的大作中提到】
: My IB account performance since 1/2/09 to date.
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I*****e
发帖数: 15123 | 19 哈哈！你应该先搞清楚LZ的性别，然后再问available否。最重要的是要问到底挣了
多少钱哈
【在 c********t 的大作中提到】
: 投了多少？要是一万，就挣了52万啊。你是单身吗？
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c*******r
发帖数: 6971 | 20 性别不重要，为了钱可以改变性取向 ：）
kidding
【在 I*****e 的大作中提到】
: 哈哈！你应该先搞清楚LZ的性别，然后再问available否。最重要的是要问到底挣了
: 多少钱哈
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c********t
发帖数: 5706 | 21 没事，我还有个姐是单身。
【在 I*****e 的大作中提到】
: 哈哈！你应该先搞清楚LZ的性别，然后再问available否。最重要的是要问到底挣了
: 多少钱哈
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f*******e
发帖数: 1161 | 22 mark
【在 c****x 的大作中提到】
:
: 谈不上秘技, 小小经验而已: Stick with credit spreads and put selling. only
: buy call when odds is overwhelming in your favor and buy far OTMs for
: maximum leverage. Use strict risk control rules. use probe order to detect
: market interest.
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I*****e
发帖数: 15123 | 23 言下之意是不管LZ是男是女，你家都包了？女的，你上，男的，你姐上？嗯，心思很
周全阿
【在 c********t 的大作中提到】
: 没事，我还有个姐是单身。
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f*******e
发帖数: 1161 | 24 LOL
【在 c********t 的大作中提到】
: 没事，我还有个姐是单身。
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c********t
发帖数: 5706 | 25 mm冰雪聪明啊，怪不得是牛人。
我又错过了ire, 很郁闷，我真心想拜你为师学习如何pick啊？
【在 I*****e 的大作中提到】
: 言下之意是不管LZ是男是女，你家都包了？女的，你上，男的，你姐上？嗯，心思很
: 周全阿
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c*******r
发帖数: 6971 | 26 如果lz是les or gay，这个就不行了。。。。。
【在 I*****e 的大作中提到】
: 言下之意是不管LZ是男是女，你家都包了？女的，你上，男的，你姐上？嗯，心思很
: 周全阿
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c********t
发帖数: 5706 | 27 我住在三番
【在 c*******r 的大作中提到】
: 如果lz是les or gay，这个就不行了。。。。。
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c*******r
发帖数: 6971 | 28 我靠，服了，合法了
【在 c********t 的大作中提到】
: 我住在三番
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I*****e
发帖数: 15123 | 29 三番和gay的关系是？这个逻辑我还没太懂
【在 c********t 的大作中提到】
: 我住在三番
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n****c
发帖数: 512 | 30 顶！
可以推荐你最受益的Option书或材料吗， |
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c****x
发帖数: 127 | 31
读了很多书, 最收益的是Larry McMillan's “Options as a Strategic Investment”
. Actually, all his books are well written. Another good read is The Black
Swan by Taleb.
【在 n****c 的大作中提到】
: 顶！
: 可以推荐你最受益的Option书或材料吗，
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n****c
发帖数: 512 | 32 Great! Thanks!
Amazing! Your trading can benefit from "The Black Swan".
Think or swim, interesting.........
Black
【在 c****x 的大作中提到】
:
: 读了很多书, 最收益的是Larry McMillan's “Options as a Strategic Investment”
: . Actually, all his books are well written. Another good read is The Black
: Swan by Taleb.
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c****x
发帖数: 127 | 33
Black Swan theory helps me think in terms of risk control and also how to
position in what seems to be an impossible trade to most people.
【在 n****c 的大作中提到】
: Great! Thanks!
: Amazing! Your trading can benefit from "The Black Swan".
: Think or swim, interesting.........
:
: Black
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n****c
发帖数: 512 | 34 Nice conversation!
Will read, and hopefully see you around often!
to
【在 c****x 的大作中提到】
:
: Black Swan theory helps me think in terms of risk control and also how to
: position in what seems to be an impossible trade to most people.
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b*****h
发帖数: 783 | 35 恭喜啊,
多谢推荐option的书.
Black
【在 c****x 的大作中提到】
:
: Black Swan theory helps me think in terms of risk control and also how to
: position in what seems to be an impossible trade to most people.
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c*******r
发帖数: 6971 | 36 这书1000多页，靠！
【在 b*****h 的大作中提到】
: 恭喜啊,
: 多谢推荐option的书.
:
: Black
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y*****6
发帖数: 414 | 37 三番gay结婚合法？
【在 I*****e 的大作中提到】
: 三番和gay的关系是？这个逻辑我还没太懂
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m********g
发帖数: 732 | 38 土妞了吧，哈哈
【在 I*****e 的大作中提到】
: 三番和gay的关系是？这个逻辑我还没太懂
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e****q
发帖数: 1668 | 39 "put selling"? 那你都short underlying喽？
detect
【在 c****x 的大作中提到】
:
: Black Swan theory helps me think in terms of risk control and also how to
: position in what seems to be an impossible trade to most people.
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c********t
发帖数: 4527 | 40 niu, please post some real trade so that we can learn.
【在 c****x 的大作中提到】
: My IB account performance since 1/2/09 to date.
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c****x
发帖数: 127 | 41
put selling <> short underlying. Looking it another way, I'm willing to buy
certain underlying at a lower price, for example, I'm willing to buy AAPL
at $220 for the next 3 months.
As a matter of fat, I have never shorted underlying, not even FAZ. Buying
put is better than shorting, IMHO. But I rarely long options.
【在 e****q 的大作中提到】
: "put selling"? 那你都short underlying喽？
:
: detect
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e****q
发帖数: 1668 | 42 我知道你的意思。比如说我用的scottrade，我要short put 的话它一定要求我同时
short
underlying，就是说我不能空short put，非常麻烦。IB没有这个要求吗？我不太了解
所以问问。
另外你short put都是atm? or oom for low price?
buy
AAPL
Buying
【在 c****x 的大作中提到】
:
: put selling <> short underlying. Looking it another way, I'm willing to buy
: certain underlying at a lower price, for example, I'm willing to buy AAPL
: at $220 for the next 3 months.
: As a matter of fat, I have never shorted underlying, not even FAZ. Buying
: put is better than shorting, IMHO. But I rarely long options.
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c****x
发帖数: 127 | 43
Scottrade is not option friendly. Commission is too high. My rule of thumb
is short deep OTM puts(at least 15% out).
【在 e****q 的大作中提到】
: 我知道你的意思。比如说我用的scottrade，我要short put 的话它一定要求我同时
: short
: underlying，就是说我不能空short put，非常麻烦。IB没有这个要求吗？我不太了解
: 所以问问。
: 另外你short put都是atm? or oom for low price?
:
: buy
: AAPL
: Buying
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f********e
发帖数: 1079 | 44 这个不是博大家一笑。。。。
是让我们胸闷～～咔咔
恭喜LZ，好厉害～ |
a****a
发帖数: 26 | |
c********t
发帖数: 4527 | 46 be careful.
First of all, I don't think shorting the deep OTM put can get you 5200%
return that fast.
secondly, you can easily get killed doing that.
My story, I get the first 1000% pretty easily, then when I tried to make it
further, the shorting OTM put, one time, wiped out > 60% position.
thumb
【在 c****x 的大作中提到】
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: Scottrade is not option friendly. Commission is too high. My rule of thumb
: is short deep OTM puts(at least 15% out).
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c****x
发帖数: 127 | 47
it
No, put selling is not the only thing in my arsenal. Credit spread is even
better(even higher ROI). As in all equity investing, risk control is key to
staying in the game. That's the key difference between being wiped out and
making it day in and day out.
【在 c********t 的大作中提到】
: be careful.
: First of all, I don't think shorting the deep OTM put can get you 5200%
: return that fast.
: secondly, you can easily get killed doing that.
: My story, I get the first 1000% pretty easily, then when I tried to make it
: further, the shorting OTM put, one time, wiped out > 60% position.
:
: thumb
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c****x
发帖数: 127 | 48
Personally, I don't think individual trades are all that important. Having
a personal system that works for you is what counts. Frankly, my individual
picks suck. See my entries for the contest.
【在 c********t 的大作中提到】
: niu, please post some real trade so that we can learn.
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c********t
发帖数: 4527 | 49 ok, Niu. hope get chance to learn from you.
Having
individual
【在 c****x 的大作中提到】
:
: Personally, I don't think individual trades are all that important. Having
: a personal system that works for you is what counts. Frankly, my individual
: picks suck. See my entries for the contest.
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c****x
发帖数: 127 | 50
Likewise.
【在 c********t 的大作中提到】
: ok, Niu. hope get chance to learn from you.
:
: Having
: individual
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e****q
发帖数: 1668 | 51 IB 对启动资金要求高了点 咔咔。另外speaking of risk control, you're talking
about
your portfolio risk control right? coz you can't micro manage your put
selling risks such as gamma. I suppose you don't hedge your options, or
it's pointless to trade them in your personal account.
thumb
【在 c****x 的大作中提到】
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: Likewise.
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k***k
发帖数: 499 | 52 very good performance so far, but... come back here for more BSO if ur
trick last for another two years. its all about risk control and consistency
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j*****h
发帖数: 3292 | 53 顶楼主，胸襟
厉害厉害
【在 c****x 的大作中提到】
:
: Likewise.
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f**********g
发帖数: 4709 | 54 多谢分享
detect
【在 c****x 的大作中提到】
:
: Likewise.
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f**********g
发帖数: 4709 | 55 说的都很实在啊。risk control对option尤其重要。
弱问一下，在没做spread的时候你设stop吗？还是做option都不设stop的？
even
to
and
【在 c****x 的大作中提到】
:
: Likewise.
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c****x
发帖数: 127 | 56 If you don't have $10k capital, it's very difficult to do proper sizing and
risk management with options. A typical rule of thumb is never risk 5% on
any single trade. So for $10k capital, each single trade is only $500 that
includes margin, how would you do it???
【在 e****q 的大作中提到】
: IB 对启动资金要求高了点 咔咔。另外speaking of risk control, you're talking
: about
: your portfolio risk control right? coz you can't micro manage your put
: selling risks such as gamma. I suppose you don't hedge your options, or
: it's pointless to trade them in your personal account.
:
: thumb
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c****x
发帖数: 127 | 57 It's not practical to set stops for options, primarily due to volatility.
Make sure you have enough margin to weather the storm is all I can say. But
of course, you need to be very sure going into the trade in the first place
. If you do credit spreads and put selling, then by definition, odds is on
your side.
【在 f**********g 的大作中提到】
: 说的都很实在啊。risk control对option尤其重要。
: 弱问一下，在没做spread的时候你设stop吗？还是做option都不设stop的？
:
: even
: to
: and
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c****x
发帖数: 127 | 58 You are kidding, right? No way I can have another 5200% in the rest of my
life. It was a miracle year and I was so lucky. But it doesn't hurt to
daydream, what if I can have 5200% for 2 more years? xxxxxxX52x52=?????
Holy cow! I may get in the Fortune list.
consistency
【在 k***k 的大作中提到】
: very good performance so far, but... come back here for more BSO if ur
: trick last for another two years. its all about risk control and consistency
: .
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n****c
发帖数: 512 | 59 我猜楼主应该不是09年新手入市吧。那之前楼主各玩了多长时间的stocks or option热身呢？
thanks,
volatility.
But
place
on
【在 c****x 的大作中提到】
: It's not practical to set stops for options, primarily due to volatility.
: Make sure you have enough margin to weather the storm is all I can say. But
: of course, you need to be very sure going into the trade in the first place
: . If you do credit spreads and put selling, then by definition, odds is on
: your side.
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M****7
发帖数: 324 | 60 niu a!!多谢分享！
【在 c****x 的大作中提到】
: My IB account performance since 1/2/09 to date.
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c****x
发帖数: 127 | 61 厉害! 本人曾排长队购买上海证交所的第一批认购证.
热身呢？
【在 n****c 的大作中提到】
: 我猜楼主应该不是09年新手入市吧。那之前楼主各玩了多长时间的stocks or option热身呢？
: thanks,
:
: volatility.
: But
: place
: on
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c********t
发帖数: 5706 | 62 那早就是 股海舵手，钱贯满盈了啊。应该经历了好几次大起大落了。应该写写你的炒
股史。
【在 c****x 的大作中提到】
: 厉害! 本人曾排长队购买上海证交所的第一批认购证.
:
: 热身呢？
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b*****h
发帖数: 783 | 63 葵花宝典。。
【在 c*******r 的大作中提到】
: 这书1000多页，靠！
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M*M
发帖数: 1993 | 64 牛人！
请问你是一直卖deep ITM put吗？ 如果股票跌，你会stop loss吗？
【在 c****x 的大作中提到】
: My IB account performance since 1/2/09 to date.
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f**********g
发帖数: 4709 | 65 俺也觉得新手即便赶上了这次的好机会，也很难一次发大财。
机遇偏爱有准备的头脑
争取多做功课多摸索，形成自己的思路和方法，总是有机会赚钱的^_^
【在 c****x 的大作中提到】
: 厉害! 本人曾排长队购买上海证交所的第一批认购证.
:
: 热身呢？
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i****e
发帖数: 451 | 66 In terms of risk control, do you mind share a little bit more?
Do you compute delta/gamma/vega of your portfolio? In particular, how do you
control the huge negative gamma if you sell many OTM put? Those PUTs are
pretty cheap and cannot bring in much profit if not selling a big number.
buy
【在 c****x 的大作中提到】
: 厉害! 本人曾排长队购买上海证交所的第一批认购证.
:
: 热身呢？
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d****a
发帖数: 2901 | |
d****a
发帖数: 2901 | 68 well time weight return.
【在 d****a 的大作中提到】
: 这个要顶
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c****x
发帖数: 127 | 69 No, put selling is only a component of my investment. I also do spreads and
long options from time to time.
No, I don't do stop loss on puts I sell due to volatility(I don't advise
stop loss even on stocks due to MM manipulation: check DNDN's bear raid in
April of 2009, that's some trip I will never forget.). I watch underlying
and option value. My rule of thumb is I will get out if the option value
has increased 100% against me. I will also cash out if my puts are down to
under $0.5 and roll
【在 M*M 的大作中提到】
: 牛人！
: 请问你是一直卖deep ITM put吗？ 如果股票跌，你会stop loss吗？
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E***X
发帖数: 885 | 70 You have any position for the upcoming DNDN? |
