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j***b 发帖数: 5901 | 2 跟Nadal在温网的成绩比呢?两个杯子两个盘子。
【在 r*********7 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : FF法网有一个杯子和几个盘子
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 3 Grass is not Nadal's weakest surface, while clay is Federer's.
IMO, at present, Federer's achievements are indeed more balanced
than Nadal.
【在 j***b 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 跟Nadal在温网的成绩比呢?两个杯子两个盘子。
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Y**s 发帖数: 1632 | 4 Too many threads on the same thing bah... One is comparing achievements,
one is comparing h2h.
It's a fact that Federer has more achievements than Nadal. It's also a fact
that Federer loses badly to Nadal in h2h. However you interpret these
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j***b 发帖数: 5901 | 5 还是要考虑Nadal是up and coming。
不管nadal将来在硬地上怎么样。他的红土成绩恐怕还是要更好。从这点上他是不
balanced。但是如果真的nadal在硬地上也牛起来,再说他不balanced也就没啥意思了。
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Grass is not Nadal's weakest surface, while clay is Federer's. : IMO, at present, Federer's achievements are indeed more balanced : than Nadal.
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 6 I said "at present". In another post I've already mentioned that
if Nadal can win 16 GSs with at least 1 USO and at least 3 hard
court GSs combined, I'd put his achievement in front of Federer's
current achievements (considering Nadal's Olympic singles gold
medal).
To me, career grand slam is a must for GOAT. On top of that,
more balanced looks slightly better.
了。
【在 j***b 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 还是要考虑Nadal是up and coming。 : 不管nadal将来在硬地上怎么样。他的红土成绩恐怕还是要更好。从这点上他是不 : balanced。但是如果真的nadal在硬地上也牛起来,再说他不balanced也就没啥意思了。
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t****i 发帖数: 4225 | 7 You think those Pro will put Olympic gold medal ahead of grand slam. I
doubt it. Olympic is not that important for them. Only our chinese like it.
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I said "at present". In another post I've already mentioned that : if Nadal can win 16 GSs with at least 1 USO and at least 3 hard : court GSs combined, I'd put his achievement in front of Federer's : current achievements (considering Nadal's Olympic singles gold : medal). : To me, career grand slam is a must for GOAT. On top of that, : more balanced looks slightly better. : : 了。
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 8 Olympics are once per 4 years. Grand slams are 4 times per year.
Just look at who has won the gold medals, you'll see how pros think
of Olympics -- Graf, Henin, Agassi, Nadal, ...
it.
【在 t****i 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : You think those Pro will put Olympic gold medal ahead of grand slam. I : doubt it. Olympic is not that important for them. Only our chinese like it.
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t****i 发帖数: 4225 | 9 does not matter whether it is once every 4 years or once a year. For
professional tennis, ATP and WTA tournaments matter most. Not like tennis,
other sports emphasize Olympics more.
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Olympics are once per 4 years. Grand slams are 4 times per year. : Just look at who has won the gold medals, you'll see how pros think : of Olympics -- Graf, Henin, Agassi, Nadal, ... : : it.
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 10 Right now Olympics gold medal earns about 700-800 ATP points, which
is almost an ATP1000 Masters... There is no prize money though.
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【在 t****i 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : does not matter whether it is once every 4 years or once a year. For : professional tennis, ATP and WTA tournaments matter most. Not like tennis, : other sports emphasize Olympics more.
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