K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 1 Aussie Formation就是双打时候，网前的队友不站在斜对面，而是就站在
前面，和你在同一侧。这样，你发完球后需要立刻跑到另一侧场地准备
接球，而队友不动。
这和普通formation的区别在于：
1）对发球选手的跑动、底线要求更高。因为如果发完球，对手return
down the line的话，你要能够接到。
2）对网前选手要求降低。只需要防住cross court return, 比通常情况下
防down the line反应时间长一些，而且角度也小一些。
根据1和2，似乎更适合如下组合：
1）发球者发球不如底线。
或者
2）网前者volley不行。
或者
3）对方接发球实在太强。
似乎偶这种单打选手比较适合？ | s***i
发帖数: 6149 | 2 i don't see any good example on youtube. all i could find from search is I
formation | B******a
发帖数: 601 | 3 The only reason for me to ask my partner to do I or Aussie format is my
forehand is much much better than my backhand. So when I serve at deuce
court, I serve at the T and then move to Ad court. I feel very comfortable
at Ad court due to lefty.
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: Aussie Formation就是双打时候，网前的队友不站在斜对面，而是就站在
: 前面，和你在同一侧。这样，你发完球后需要立刻跑到另一侧场地准备
: 接球，而队友不动。
: 这和普通formation的区别在于：
: 1）对发球选手的跑动、底线要求更高。因为如果发完球，对手return
: down the line的话，你要能够接到。
: 2）对网前选手要求降低。只需要防住cross court return, 比通常情况下
: 防down the line反应时间长一些，而且角度也小一些。
: 根据1和2，似乎更适合如下组合：
: 1）发球者发球不如底线。
| K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 4 Yup, that's usually the case. I haven't seen anyone using Aussie
when serving at Deuce court (for righty).
comfortable
【在 B******a 的大作中提到】
: The only reason for me to ask my partner to do I or Aussie format is my
: forehand is much much better than my backhand. So when I serve at deuce
: court, I serve at the T and then move to Ad court. I feel very comfortable
: at Ad court due to lefty.
| K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 5 I can't help you search during the day. But I've seen HD one.
【在 s***i 的大作中提到】
: i don't see any good example on youtube. all i could find from search is I
: formation
| a*m
发帖数: 6253 | 6 All your reasons are not the major ones.
I-format will need:
Strong serve: control the pace/spin/placement;
Relative stubborn receiver.
It normally will be used when:
1. Disturb the receiver: most people like cross court return esp. pure
doubles player;
2. Serve to T if receiver's weak side and get some easy points;
3. Get some easy points with signals between server's party: server do not
have to move, it depends on the net player and the server's agreement. The
agreement normally includes the serve's placement and the net player's
movement;
4. No strong reason but just looking for a change, to break a pattern. | a*m
发帖数: 6253 | 7 BTW, I- format or not, at man's higher level in doubles, charge on net is
always the goal.
Not necessarily true to use I and get the server stay behind baseline. | a*m
发帖数: 6253 | 8 Yes, Amateurs have all kind of variations, even for pros. It is really
depends on the player's style.
Which switching rule you talking about? The 1,5, 9 switching end for Tie
Break? It is obvious better than 6 and 12. It keeps the players in the same
end for serve. Not sure AO and etc, cause i did not really pay attention.
I
rule
【在 B******a 的大作中提到】
: The only reason for me to ask my partner to do I or Aussie format is my
: forehand is much much better than my backhand. So when I serve at deuce
: court, I serve at the T and then move to Ad court. I feel very comfortable
: at Ad court due to lefty.
| K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 9 Then why regular games don't do it that way?
same
【在 a*m 的大作中提到】
: Yes, Amateurs have all kind of variations, even for pros. It is really
: depends on the player's style.
: Which switching rule you talking about? The 1,5, 9 switching end for Tie
: Break? It is obvious better than 6 and 12. It keeps the players in the same
: end for serve. Not sure AO and etc, cause i did not really pay attention.
:
:
: I
: rule
| a*m
发帖数: 6253 | 10 If the server stay behind baseline, I format is kind of give the receiver
advantage... Cause down the line is the most natural approach.
Of coz, assume double charger on net is advantage, and most of the case
between pure doubles players, it is. | B******a
发帖数: 601 | 11 At AO, the player switch sides at 6, 12 instead of 1, 5, 9 during tie
break.
same
【在 a*m 的大作中提到】
: Yes, Amateurs have all kind of variations, even for pros. It is really
: depends on the player's style.
: Which switching rule you talking about? The 1,5, 9 switching end for Tie
: Break? It is obvious better than 6 and 12. It keeps the players in the same
: end for serve. Not sure AO and etc, cause i did not really pay attention.
:
:
: I
: rule
| K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 12 Lao Da, you mixed the concepts of Aussie Formation and I Formation.
They are different.
In I Formation, the net guy squads in the middle.
Also, even in Aussie Formation, the receiver's down the line return
is not a advantage. The server stands right at the middle to serve,
and immediately runs to the other side to cover that half. It's
surely still easier for the server than in singles.
【在 a*m 的大作中提到】
: If the server stay behind baseline, I format is kind of give the receiver
: advantage... Cause down the line is the most natural approach.
: Of coz, assume double charger on net is advantage, and most of the case
: between pure doubles players, it is.
| a*m
发帖数: 6253 | 13 Got it.
USTA is different then.
【在 B******a 的大作中提到】
: At AO, the player switch sides at 6, 12 instead of 1, 5, 9 during tie
: break.
:
: same
| a*m
发帖数: 6253 | 14 Single is another story.
Doubles server normally will start from a little wider since down the line
is covered by partner.
Single server normally will stay in the middle and cover all courts. The
pressure for rally back the return shot is easier cause no man stay on net.
Doubles advantage is no big movement and thus more powerful and higher
quality shots can be made. If from the begining the server is in a moving
condition(running shot from baseline) and you have to face two players on
net, that is surely a disadvantage.
That is the reason why i think the scenario in your first post is kind of
wrong usage of Aussie or I.
At higher level, server always go to net after frist serve. But which side
depends on the signal and agreement with your partner. If the net guy want
to poach, you have to switch. In this case, T serve is popular.
If the second is a little weak, then he may stay.
Of coz, more up and back condition nowadays than before as Majia said, cause
the ground strokes are more powerfull than before. But in general, both up
is still the first priority.
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: Lao Da, you mixed the concepts of Aussie Formation and I Formation.
: They are different.
: In I Formation, the net guy squads in the middle.
: Also, even in Aussie Formation, the receiver's down the line return
: is not a advantage. The server stands right at the middle to serve,
: and immediately runs to the other side to cover that half. It's
: surely still easier for the server than in singles.
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