F*****4
发帖数: 149 | 1 我发现单打很难进入那种enjoy的状态，双方都严肃，打了好球也无人分享喝彩，打坏
了就想杀了自己。
但是有一次打双打，刚上来差点被人送蛋；然后两人突然就彻底放松了，我本来不上网
，变成接完球或者发球完毕就上去，后来越打越顺了，几乎每一个球无论输赢两人都
celebrate,高兴得要命，输赢似乎也不重要了，站在场上觉得生活真美好，真正享受网
球比赛，尽管我们不在乎输赢了，但对手似乎被我们的兴高采烈给摧毁了，尽管对手水
平高，最后我们赢了。
那次是发自内心的高兴和enjoy.说实话那次达到了这样的境界：即使输了也无法剥夺那
晚在场上的快乐，太高兴了，每一个球都好！
但在单打里面，一次都没有，赢了就如释重负；输了就想狠狠揍自己一顿，比较
torture. 上次赢了1st set, 2nd set 5-2的时候break的时候觉得快完成任务了，也不
是兴奋，当然最后输了，感觉无地自容big idiot，一点儿都不enjoy.为什么单打就这
样严肃呢? 单打真是孤军作战非常的lonely啊。不知道何时才能达到enjoy的境界。 |
g*****y
发帖数: 7271 | 2 可能你需要有拉拉队帮鼓劲
【在 F*****4 的大作中提到】
: 我发现单打很难进入那种enjoy的状态，双方都严肃，打了好球也无人分享喝彩，打坏
: 了就想杀了自己。
: 但是有一次打双打，刚上来差点被人送蛋；然后两人突然就彻底放松了，我本来不上网
: ，变成接完球或者发球完毕就上去，后来越打越顺了，几乎每一个球无论输赢两人都
: celebrate,高兴得要命，输赢似乎也不重要了，站在场上觉得生活真美好，真正享受网
: 球比赛，尽管我们不在乎输赢了，但对手似乎被我们的兴高采烈给摧毁了，尽管对手水
: 平高，最后我们赢了。
: 那次是发自内心的高兴和enjoy.说实话那次达到了这样的境界：即使输了也无法剥夺那
: 晚在场上的快乐，太高兴了，每一个球都好！
: 但在单打里面，一次都没有，赢了就如释重负；输了就想狠狠揍自己一顿，比较
|
J*****o
发帖数: 1129 | 3 我跟lz正好相反。双打只有在四个人都水平接近时才能兴奋都起来。单打也一样，最好
对方比我高一点，这样最兴奋。赢了就赚，输了保本。 |
F*****4
发帖数: 149 | 4 我这次大概被pusher折磨得够呛。
every once in a while, 会碰到pusher然后惨败。（参见最近这次的悲剧）不是第一
次了，大概每两个月能碰到一个，基本上都不pleasant.
然后，那种痛苦是深入骨髓的，恨不得把拍子砸了，觉得why did I even bother to
play tennis or what is the purpose to spend so much time and effort in
tennis? And the money spent on coaching...
真的怕了ｐｕｓｈｅｒ |
K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 5 偶正好相反。双打总觉得自己是big idiot，单打兴高采烈。
【在 F*****4 的大作中提到】
: 我发现单打很难进入那种enjoy的状态，双方都严肃，打了好球也无人分享喝彩，打坏
: 了就想杀了自己。
: 但是有一次打双打，刚上来差点被人送蛋；然后两人突然就彻底放松了，我本来不上网
: ，变成接完球或者发球完毕就上去，后来越打越顺了，几乎每一个球无论输赢两人都
: celebrate,高兴得要命，输赢似乎也不重要了，站在场上觉得生活真美好，真正享受网
: 球比赛，尽管我们不在乎输赢了，但对手似乎被我们的兴高采烈给摧毁了，尽管对手水
: 平高，最后我们赢了。
: 那次是发自内心的高兴和enjoy.说实话那次达到了这样的境界：即使输了也无法剥夺那
: 晚在场上的快乐，太高兴了，每一个球都好！
: 但在单打里面，一次都没有，赢了就如释重负；输了就想狠狠揍自己一顿，比较
|
K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 6 Well, if you can't beat them, join them...
【在 F*****4 的大作中提到】
: 我这次大概被pusher折磨得够呛。
: every once in a while, 会碰到pusher然后惨败。（参见最近这次的悲剧）不是第一
: 次了，大概每两个月能碰到一个，基本上都不pleasant.
: 然后，那种痛苦是深入骨髓的，恨不得把拍子砸了，觉得why did I even bother to
: play tennis or what is the purpose to spend so much time and effort in
: tennis? And the money spent on coaching...
: 真的怕了ｐｕｓｈｅｒ
|
F*****4
发帖数: 149 | 7 I plan to play net all the time and see how that goes next time if I
encounter pusher again.
I respect Pusher a lot as they are the winners and deserve lots of credits.
But, personally, I will never want to play like a pusher, never. |
K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 8 How's your overhead? Lob is like pusher 101, it's one of their fundamental
shots.
.
【在 F*****4 的大作中提到】
: I plan to play net all the time and see how that goes next time if I
: encounter pusher again.
: I respect Pusher a lot as they are the winners and deserve lots of credits.
: But, personally, I will never want to play like a pusher, never.
|
F*****4
发帖数: 149 | 9 My overhead is pretty decent. I just need to be confident and play a lot in
a match without hesitation.
My problem is that I didn't even try to use it... I let go lots of
opportunities where I can actually finish the point over the net.
My forehand is pretty good that makes me a good base liner and I can hit
forehand winners from baseline, that is part of the reason I do not go to
the net often. |
K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 10 Then you can definitely try to go to the net, although going there all
the time probably won't work. Use your forehand to force weak return
first, then go. You have to be comfotable with both volley and overhead.
Some of their lobs you will have to hit after one bounce. You will still
need to finish these.
in
【在 F*****4 的大作中提到】
: My overhead is pretty decent. I just need to be confident and play a lot in
: a match without hesitation.
: My problem is that I didn't even try to use it... I let go lots of
: opportunities where I can actually finish the point over the net.
: My forehand is pretty good that makes me a good base liner and I can hit
: forehand winners from baseline, that is part of the reason I do not go to
: the net often.
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b******n
发帖数: 1629 | 11 A pusher can never be a good double player. What a good double player needs
is decent serve, fast groundstroke and good volley. A pusher generally doesn
't have the second one.
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: How's your overhead? Lob is like pusher 101, it's one of their fundamental
: shots.
:
: .
|
K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 12 I think LZ was talking about singles here.
needs
doesn
【在 b******n 的大作中提到】
: A pusher can never be a good double player. What a good double player needs
: is decent serve, fast groundstroke and good volley. A pusher generally doesn
: 't have the second one.
|
b******n
发帖数: 1629 | 13 哈，帖子有点乱，没怎么看明白
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: I think LZ was talking about singles here.
:
: needs
: doesn
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z********4
发帖数: 1668 | 14 我也相反。双打有时候自己失误多了畏首畏尾，觉得坑队友。 |
d**********8
发帖数: 326 | 15 enjoy singles the most, it has all the stuff A sports need: mental, speed,
power, endurance, patience, strategy, etc...... make me understand things
more than just tennis!
I can't find these in double play. Double is a teamwork, however, there are
other sports that ensure you much more enjoyment of teamwork than double
tennis.
【在 F*****4 的大作中提到】
: 我发现单打很难进入那种enjoy的状态，双方都严肃，打了好球也无人分享喝彩，打坏
: 了就想杀了自己。
: 但是有一次打双打，刚上来差点被人送蛋；然后两人突然就彻底放松了，我本来不上网
: ，变成接完球或者发球完毕就上去，后来越打越顺了，几乎每一个球无论输赢两人都
: celebrate,高兴得要命，输赢似乎也不重要了，站在场上觉得生活真美好，真正享受网
: 球比赛，尽管我们不在乎输赢了，但对手似乎被我们的兴高采烈给摧毁了，尽管对手水
: 平高，最后我们赢了。
: 那次是发自内心的高兴和enjoy.说实话那次达到了这样的境界：即使输了也无法剥夺那
: 晚在场上的快乐，太高兴了，每一个球都好！
: 但在单打里面，一次都没有，赢了就如释重负；输了就想狠狠揍自己一顿，比较
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U******u
发帖数: 5829 | 16 这可难说。我是大扑邪。单打顶多4.0弱到mid,双打可以扛4.0强甚至4.5.在加拿大俱乐
部我们双打一号肠场是5.0/4.5+霸占了，2号是4.5/4.0+长待着。我基本是2号场的，打
到1号再退回去。在eric的CSI，对4.5鸭梨不大。但单打就要吃蛋。论暴力我与4.5的可
差远了。双打完全是和搭档配合技术为重要。
needs
doesn
【在 b******n 的大作中提到】
: A pusher can never be a good double player. What a good double player needs
: is decent serve, fast groundstroke and good volley. A pusher generally doesn
: 't have the second one.
|
F*****4
发帖数: 149 | 17 Well said : "mental, speed,
power, endurance, patience, strategy, etc...... make me understand things
more than just tennis!"
Sometimes, I feel the way we treat tennis is consistent with how we live
life, the attitude, perseverance, pursuing perfection... how we accept
failure...(whining or accept it and keep on improving)
The way I see playing singles, one can:
. get more challenge than doubles (mentally, definitely)
. get more exercise
. get more solid games |
U******u
发帖数: 5829 | 18 说的好，赞!
我当年写网球人生系列，其实，除希望更多老中打网球外，也主要包涵这些意思.
记得一位正打4.5USTA的潜水网友给我私信，说:
当年就是读了我的网球帖子，开始迷上网球，也是冬夏苦练从0打到了4.5.还有个去上
美国医学院的小孩也来信说了同样经历，二位給我实名地址一再邀请去他们那做空打球
呵呵。。。。。。
【在 F*****4 的大作中提到】
: Well said : "mental, speed,
: power, endurance, patience, strategy, etc...... make me understand things
: more than just tennis!"
: Sometimes, I feel the way we treat tennis is consistent with how we live
: life, the attitude, perseverance, pursuing perfection... how we accept
: failure...(whining or accept it and keep on improving)
: The way I see playing singles, one can:
: . get more challenge than doubles (mentally, definitely)
: . get more exercise
: . get more solid games
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b******n
发帖数: 1629 | 19 你发球比较好，一般的人都接不好你的发球
【在 U******u 的大作中提到】
: 这可难说。我是大扑邪。单打顶多4.0弱到mid,双打可以扛4.0强甚至4.5.在加拿大俱乐
: 部我们双打一号肠场是5.0/4.5+霸占了，2号是4.5/4.0+长待着。我基本是2号场的，打
: 到1号再退回去。在eric的CSI，对4.5鸭梨不大。但单打就要吃蛋。论暴力我与4.5的可
: 差远了。双打完全是和搭档配合技术为重要。
:
: needs
: doesn
|
b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 20 “真的怕了ｐｕｓｈｅｒ”
don't be scared of pushers, but you DO need to respect them, that's the
first step to beat a pusher. (maybe not them as players, but their game lol)
I used to hate play against pushers too. Actually i still do lol, just there
are less good pusher now. =)
My initial thought about playing against pushers is I'm gonna hit through
them, or finish at the net etc... hitting through them isn't easy, going to
the net is not my game, foot works, rhythm, volleys don't develop over night
.
What I found worked for me later is "push" with them. Mentally be ready to
be out on the court for 3 or 4 hours, not give out any points. I stop going
for sharp angles, or big shots, but instead of push like them, I just hit my
loopy topspin, direct to the center or a bit toward their backhand. Most
pushers' shot don't have heavy topspin, and most don't initiate sharp angles
, so it's my heavy topspin "push" vs their less topspin push. And guess what
, they don't like it, they started to go for more, they started to change
their game plan, they started to miss. I was in good shape as most pushers
back then though, my message to them is "I'm gonna be out here as long as it
takes". The wins were not pretty, but hey I rather have ugly wins then ugly
losses. =)
As I get better playing against pushers, my confidence against them build up
. I know I can always fall back and beat them at their own game. With that
in mind, I started drive a bit more, going to the net a bit more.... and
voila! not so ugly win vs a pusher....
【在 F*****4 的大作中提到】
: 我这次大概被pusher折磨得够呛。
: every once in a while, 会碰到pusher然后惨败。（参见最近这次的悲剧）不是第一
: 次了，大概每两个月能碰到一个，基本上都不pleasant.
: 然后，那种痛苦是深入骨髓的，恨不得把拍子砸了，觉得why did I even bother to
: play tennis or what is the purpose to spend so much time and effort in
: tennis? And the money spent on coaching...
: 真的怕了ｐｕｓｈｅｒ
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 21 seems I have similar game style as you, minus the pretty decent overhead.
Going to the net is a good idea, but don't rush to the net, work it, be
patience with it. You don't have to head to the net at the first opportunity
you see, you can step in and make that opportunity bigger, make your net
approach easier.... don't mentally get too excited. Good luck!
in
【在 F*****4 的大作中提到】
: My overhead is pretty decent. I just need to be confident and play a lot in
: a match without hesitation.
: My problem is that I didn't even try to use it... I let go lots of
: opportunities where I can actually finish the point over the net.
: My forehand is pretty good that makes me a good base liner and I can hit
: forehand winners from baseline, that is part of the reason I do not go to
: the net often.
|
d******e
发帖数: 2541 | 22 其实，暴力派不该怕pusher, 当你攻击性稳定了，一般还是掌握主动权多些。关键是稳
定而不是单纯暴力程度。
其实，pusher怕的是和自己水平差不多的pusher,和镜子打，最终杀敌一千自损8百。谁
都吐血累的半死不爽。 |
F*****4
发帖数: 149 | 23 我发现单打很难进入那种enjoy的状态，双方都严肃，打了好球也无人分享喝彩，打坏
了就想杀了自己。
但是有一次打双打，刚上来差点被人送蛋；然后两人突然就彻底放松了，我本来不上网
，变成接完球或者发球完毕就上去，后来越打越顺了，几乎每一个球无论输赢两人都
celebrate,高兴得要命，输赢似乎也不重要了，站在场上觉得生活真美好，真正享受网
球比赛，尽管我们不在乎输赢了，但对手似乎被我们的兴高采烈给摧毁了，尽管对手水
平高，最后我们赢了。
那次是发自内心的高兴和enjoy.说实话那次达到了这样的境界：即使输了也无法剥夺那
晚在场上的快乐，太高兴了，每一个球都好！
但在单打里面，一次都没有，赢了就如释重负；输了就想狠狠揍自己一顿，比较
torture. 上次赢了1st set, 2nd set 5-2的时候break的时候觉得快完成任务了，也不
是兴奋，当然最后输了，感觉无地自容big idiot，一点儿都不enjoy.为什么单打就这
样严肃呢? 单打真是孤军作战非常的lonely啊。不知道何时才能达到enjoy的境界。 |
g*****y
发帖数: 7271 | 24 可能你需要有拉拉队帮鼓劲
【在 F*****4 的大作中提到】
: 我发现单打很难进入那种enjoy的状态，双方都严肃，打了好球也无人分享喝彩，打坏
: 了就想杀了自己。
: 但是有一次打双打，刚上来差点被人送蛋；然后两人突然就彻底放松了，我本来不上网
: ，变成接完球或者发球完毕就上去，后来越打越顺了，几乎每一个球无论输赢两人都
: celebrate,高兴得要命，输赢似乎也不重要了，站在场上觉得生活真美好，真正享受网
: 球比赛，尽管我们不在乎输赢了，但对手似乎被我们的兴高采烈给摧毁了，尽管对手水
: 平高，最后我们赢了。
: 那次是发自内心的高兴和enjoy.说实话那次达到了这样的境界：即使输了也无法剥夺那
: 晚在场上的快乐，太高兴了，每一个球都好！
: 但在单打里面，一次都没有，赢了就如释重负；输了就想狠狠揍自己一顿，比较
|
J*****o
发帖数: 1129 | 25 我跟lz正好相反。双打只有在四个人都水平接近时才能兴奋都起来。单打也一样，最好
对方比我高一点，这样最兴奋。赢了就赚，输了保本。 |
F*****4
发帖数: 149 | 26 我这次大概被pusher折磨得够呛。
every once in a while, 会碰到pusher然后惨败。（参见最近这次的悲剧）不是第一
次了，大概每两个月能碰到一个，基本上都不pleasant.
然后，那种痛苦是深入骨髓的，恨不得把拍子砸了，觉得why did I even bother to
play tennis or what is the purpose to spend so much time and effort in
tennis? And the money spent on coaching...
真的怕了ｐｕｓｈｅｒ |
K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 27 偶正好相反。双打总觉得自己是big idiot，单打兴高采烈。
【在 F*****4 的大作中提到】
: 我发现单打很难进入那种enjoy的状态，双方都严肃，打了好球也无人分享喝彩，打坏
: 了就想杀了自己。
: 但是有一次打双打，刚上来差点被人送蛋；然后两人突然就彻底放松了，我本来不上网
: ，变成接完球或者发球完毕就上去，后来越打越顺了，几乎每一个球无论输赢两人都
: celebrate,高兴得要命，输赢似乎也不重要了，站在场上觉得生活真美好，真正享受网
: 球比赛，尽管我们不在乎输赢了，但对手似乎被我们的兴高采烈给摧毁了，尽管对手水
: 平高，最后我们赢了。
: 那次是发自内心的高兴和enjoy.说实话那次达到了这样的境界：即使输了也无法剥夺那
: 晚在场上的快乐，太高兴了，每一个球都好！
: 但在单打里面，一次都没有，赢了就如释重负；输了就想狠狠揍自己一顿，比较
|
K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 28 Well, if you can't beat them, join them...
【在 F*****4 的大作中提到】
: 我这次大概被pusher折磨得够呛。
: every once in a while, 会碰到pusher然后惨败。（参见最近这次的悲剧）不是第一
: 次了，大概每两个月能碰到一个，基本上都不pleasant.
: 然后，那种痛苦是深入骨髓的，恨不得把拍子砸了，觉得why did I even bother to
: play tennis or what is the purpose to spend so much time and effort in
: tennis? And the money spent on coaching...
: 真的怕了ｐｕｓｈｅｒ
|
F*****4
发帖数: 149 | 29 I plan to play net all the time and see how that goes next time if I
encounter pusher again.
I respect Pusher a lot as they are the winners and deserve lots of credits.
But, personally, I will never want to play like a pusher, never. |
K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 30 How's your overhead? Lob is like pusher 101, it's one of their fundamental
shots.
.
【在 F*****4 的大作中提到】
: I plan to play net all the time and see how that goes next time if I
: encounter pusher again.
: I respect Pusher a lot as they are the winners and deserve lots of credits.
: But, personally, I will never want to play like a pusher, never.
|
|
|
F*****4
发帖数: 149 | 31 My overhead is pretty decent. I just need to be confident and play a lot in
a match without hesitation.
My problem is that I didn't even try to use it... I let go lots of
opportunities where I can actually finish the point over the net.
My forehand is pretty good that makes me a good base liner and I can hit
forehand winners from baseline, that is part of the reason I do not go to
the net often. |
K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 32 Then you can definitely try to go to the net, although going there all
the time probably won't work. Use your forehand to force weak return
first, then go. You have to be comfotable with both volley and overhead.
Some of their lobs you will have to hit after one bounce. You will still
need to finish these.
in
【在 F*****4 的大作中提到】
: My overhead is pretty decent. I just need to be confident and play a lot in
: a match without hesitation.
: My problem is that I didn't even try to use it... I let go lots of
: opportunities where I can actually finish the point over the net.
: My forehand is pretty good that makes me a good base liner and I can hit
: forehand winners from baseline, that is part of the reason I do not go to
: the net often.
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b******n
发帖数: 1629 | 33 A pusher can never be a good double player. What a good double player needs
is decent serve, fast groundstroke and good volley. A pusher generally doesn
't have the second one.
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: How's your overhead? Lob is like pusher 101, it's one of their fundamental
: shots.
:
: .
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 34 I think LZ was talking about singles here.
needs
doesn
【在 b******n 的大作中提到】
: A pusher can never be a good double player. What a good double player needs
: is decent serve, fast groundstroke and good volley. A pusher generally doesn
: 't have the second one.
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b******n
发帖数: 1629 | 35 哈，帖子有点乱，没怎么看明白
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: I think LZ was talking about singles here.
:
: needs
: doesn
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z********4
发帖数: 1668 | 36 我也相反。双打有时候自己失误多了畏首畏尾，觉得坑队友。 |
d**********8
发帖数: 326 | 37 enjoy singles the most, it has all the stuff A sports need: mental, speed,
power, endurance, patience, strategy, etc...... make me understand things
more than just tennis!
I can't find these in double play. Double is a teamwork, however, there are
other sports that ensure you much more enjoyment of teamwork than double
tennis.
【在 F*****4 的大作中提到】
: 我发现单打很难进入那种enjoy的状态，双方都严肃，打了好球也无人分享喝彩，打坏
: 了就想杀了自己。
: 但是有一次打双打，刚上来差点被人送蛋；然后两人突然就彻底放松了，我本来不上网
: ，变成接完球或者发球完毕就上去，后来越打越顺了，几乎每一个球无论输赢两人都
: celebrate,高兴得要命，输赢似乎也不重要了，站在场上觉得生活真美好，真正享受网
: 球比赛，尽管我们不在乎输赢了，但对手似乎被我们的兴高采烈给摧毁了，尽管对手水
: 平高，最后我们赢了。
: 那次是发自内心的高兴和enjoy.说实话那次达到了这样的境界：即使输了也无法剥夺那
: 晚在场上的快乐，太高兴了，每一个球都好！
: 但在单打里面，一次都没有，赢了就如释重负；输了就想狠狠揍自己一顿，比较
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U******u
发帖数: 5829 | 38 这可难说。我是大扑邪。单打顶多4.0弱到mid,双打可以扛4.0强甚至4.5.在加拿大俱乐
部我们双打一号肠场是5.0/4.5+霸占了，2号是4.5/4.0+长待着。我基本是2号场的，打
到1号再退回去。在eric的CSI，对4.5鸭梨不大。但单打就要吃蛋。论暴力我与4.5的可
差远了。双打完全是和搭档配合技术为重要。
needs
doesn
【在 b******n 的大作中提到】
: A pusher can never be a good double player. What a good double player needs
: is decent serve, fast groundstroke and good volley. A pusher generally doesn
: 't have the second one.
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F*****4
发帖数: 149 | 39 Well said : "mental, speed,
power, endurance, patience, strategy, etc...... make me understand things
more than just tennis!"
Sometimes, I feel the way we treat tennis is consistent with how we live
life, the attitude, perseverance, pursuing perfection... how we accept
failure...(whining or accept it and keep on improving)
The way I see playing singles, one can:
. get more challenge than doubles (mentally, definitely)
. get more exercise
. get more solid games |
U******u
发帖数: 5829 | 40 说的好，赞!
我当年写网球人生系列，其实，除希望更多老中打网球外，也主要包涵这些意思.
记得一位正打4.5USTA的潜水网友给我私信，说:
当年就是读了我的网球帖子，开始迷上网球，也是冬夏苦练从0打到了4.5.还有个去上
美国医学院的小孩也来信说了同样经历，二位給我实名地址一再邀请去他们那做空打球
呵呵。。。。。。
【在 F*****4 的大作中提到】
: Well said : "mental, speed,
: power, endurance, patience, strategy, etc...... make me understand things
: more than just tennis!"
: Sometimes, I feel the way we treat tennis is consistent with how we live
: life, the attitude, perseverance, pursuing perfection... how we accept
: failure...(whining or accept it and keep on improving)
: The way I see playing singles, one can:
: . get more challenge than doubles (mentally, definitely)
: . get more exercise
: . get more solid games
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b******n
发帖数: 1629 | 41 你发球比较好，一般的人都接不好你的发球
【在 U******u 的大作中提到】
: 这可难说。我是大扑邪。单打顶多4.0弱到mid,双打可以扛4.0强甚至4.5.在加拿大俱乐
: 部我们双打一号肠场是5.0/4.5+霸占了，2号是4.5/4.0+长待着。我基本是2号场的，打
: 到1号再退回去。在eric的CSI，对4.5鸭梨不大。但单打就要吃蛋。论暴力我与4.5的可
: 差远了。双打完全是和搭档配合技术为重要。
:
: needs
: doesn
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 42 “真的怕了ｐｕｓｈｅｒ”
don't be scared of pushers, but you DO need to respect them, that's the
first step to beat a pusher. (maybe not them as players, but their game lol)
I used to hate play against pushers too. Actually i still do lol, just there
are less good pusher now. =)
My initial thought about playing against pushers is I'm gonna hit through
them, or finish at the net etc... hitting through them isn't easy, going to
the net is not my game, foot works, rhythm, volleys don't develop over night
.
What I found worked for me later is "push" with them. Mentally be ready to
be out on the court for 3 or 4 hours, not give out any points. I stop going
for sharp angles, or big shots, but instead of push like them, I just hit my
loopy topspin, direct to the center or a bit toward their backhand. Most
pushers' shot don't have heavy topspin, and most don't initiate sharp angles
, so it's my heavy topspin "push" vs their less topspin push. And guess what
, they don't like it, they started to go for more, they started to change
their game plan, they started to miss. I was in good shape as most pushers
back then though, my message to them is "I'm gonna be out here as long as it
takes". The wins were not pretty, but hey I rather have ugly wins then ugly
losses. =)
As I get better playing against pushers, my confidence against them build up
. I know I can always fall back and beat them at their own game. With that
in mind, I started drive a bit more, going to the net a bit more.... and
voila! not so ugly win vs a pusher....
【在 F*****4 的大作中提到】
: 我这次大概被pusher折磨得够呛。
: every once in a while, 会碰到pusher然后惨败。（参见最近这次的悲剧）不是第一
: 次了，大概每两个月能碰到一个，基本上都不pleasant.
: 然后，那种痛苦是深入骨髓的，恨不得把拍子砸了，觉得why did I even bother to
: play tennis or what is the purpose to spend so much time and effort in
: tennis? And the money spent on coaching...
: 真的怕了ｐｕｓｈｅｒ
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 43 seems I have similar game style as you, minus the pretty decent overhead.
Going to the net is a good idea, but don't rush to the net, work it, be
patience with it. You don't have to head to the net at the first opportunity
you see, you can step in and make that opportunity bigger, make your net
approach easier.... don't mentally get too excited. Good luck!
in
【在 F*****4 的大作中提到】
: My overhead is pretty decent. I just need to be confident and play a lot in
: a match without hesitation.
: My problem is that I didn't even try to use it... I let go lots of
: opportunities where I can actually finish the point over the net.
: My forehand is pretty good that makes me a good base liner and I can hit
: forehand winners from baseline, that is part of the reason I do not go to
: the net often.
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d******e
发帖数: 2541 | 44 其实，暴力派不该怕pusher, 当你攻击性稳定了，一般还是掌握主动权多些。关键是稳
定而不是单纯暴力程度。
其实，pusher怕的是和自己水平差不多的pusher,和镜子打，最终杀敌一千自损8百。谁
都吐血累的半死不爽。 |
d******e
发帖数: 2541 | 45 quietly well said!!!
去年冬季在ＥＲＩＣ的ＣＳＩ ＬＥＡＧＵＥ打球，从皇后这边一起CAR POOL去得两个
４。５（双打为主）就也说过类似得感受，他俩都最不愿和那个叫ＫＥＬＶＩＮ得对打
单打，尽管他俩比他高０。５还不止。尽管，输得机率不大，但赢了也极为不爽。
我和这个大ＰＵＳＨＥＲ就交手了两次，一次是去年夏天ＵＳＴＡ３。５俩人单打对上
，两小时没打完两盘，第一盘５:７我输了，第二盘耗到５:４我领先而到时间终止比赛
。第二次就是ＣＳＩ联盟单打，他在１６强之外，没单打季后赛赛资格，想挑战我挤进
１６强。又是两小时，第一盘同以前一样７:５，但我胜，而且把他耗光体力，结果，
第二盘给了他个蛋。他４６岁，比我小９岁，下来还垃圾话不服，我吼他一句，不服，
拍子说话别垃圾费话，我比你老，再打一盘你只要不怕再吃一个蛋如何？他没话了....
..lol
我说了，其实，ＰＵＳＨＥＲ也最不愿和自己同级别的ＰＵＳＨＥＲ对打，输赢都是自
损８００的买卖，耗得精疲力竭。而对暴力的，抗住了，赢得爽，扛不住，输得快。都
是干净利索。
lol)
there
to
night
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: “真的怕了ｐｕｓｈｅｒ”
: don't be scared of pushers, but you DO need to respect them, that's the
: first step to beat a pusher. (maybe not them as players, but their game lol)
: I used to hate play against pushers too. Actually i still do lol, just there
: are less good pusher now. =)
: My initial thought about playing against pushers is I'm gonna hit through
: them, or finish at the net etc... hitting through them isn't easy, going to
: the net is not my game, foot works, rhythm, volleys don't develop over night
: .
: What I found worked for me later is "push" with them. Mentally be ready to
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s***i
发帖数: 6149 | 46 单打就不要想着enjoy了，单打就是你如释重负的那一刻有些许的欣喜，单打就是孤独
的，很正常，单打就是build up你的confidence和ego的，joy不在里面。
偶大概就是打3.0的时候在这里汇报两场比赛，一场是生涯第一场usta，赢了，一场是
生涯第二场，输了。3.5的时候22场单打输过一场比赛，没觉得有什么好高兴的，因为
志不在3.5.
【在 F*****4 的大作中提到】
: 我发现单打很难进入那种enjoy的状态，双方都严肃，打了好球也无人分享喝彩，打坏
: 了就想杀了自己。
: 但是有一次打双打，刚上来差点被人送蛋；然后两人突然就彻底放松了，我本来不上网
: ，变成接完球或者发球完毕就上去，后来越打越顺了，几乎每一个球无论输赢两人都
: celebrate,高兴得要命，输赢似乎也不重要了，站在场上觉得生活真美好，真正享受网
: 球比赛，尽管我们不在乎输赢了，但对手似乎被我们的兴高采烈给摧毁了，尽管对手水
: 平高，最后我们赢了。
: 那次是发自内心的高兴和enjoy.说实话那次达到了这样的境界：即使输了也无法剥夺那
: 晚在场上的快乐，太高兴了，每一个球都好！
: 但在单打里面，一次都没有，赢了就如释重负；输了就想狠狠揍自己一顿，比较
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 47 一次朋友看了我的一个单打practice set. 他给我的建议是得比赛时得enjoy，这是我
得到最后建议之一。
【在 s***i 的大作中提到】
: 单打就不要想着enjoy了，单打就是你如释重负的那一刻有些许的欣喜，单打就是孤独
: 的，很正常，单打就是build up你的confidence和ego的，joy不在里面。
: 偶大概就是打3.0的时候在这里汇报两场比赛，一场是生涯第一场usta，赢了，一场是
: 生涯第二场，输了。3.5的时候22场单打输过一场比赛，没觉得有什么好高兴的，因为
: 志不在3.5.
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