w*****e
发帖数: 309 | 1 跟几天前发的同一场比赛，同一个set之前的几个game.
这次朋友有编辑，效果貌似也好些。请不吝赐教。
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fDSpiYfMx4 |
b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 2 这种录像看起来太痛苦了，还是有机会在back fence位置录比较好。
【在 w*****e 的大作中提到】
: 跟几天前发的同一场比赛，同一个set之前的几个game.
: 这次朋友有编辑，效果貌似也好些。请不吝赐教。
: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fDSpiYfMx4
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w*****e
发帖数: 309 | 3 我还以为这种视角利于培养全局的战术素养呢:)
有录像设备推荐吗？
【在 b*e 的大作中提到】
: 这种录像看起来太痛苦了，还是有机会在back fence位置录比较好。
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b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 4 你可以搜一下历史贴，以前大家讨论推荐过很多次了。要diy (monopod)或买(qm-1)一
个架子，然后高端(gopro)或低端(vado hd)摄像机。
【在 w*****e 的大作中提到】
: 我还以为这种视角利于培养全局的战术素养呢:)
: 有录像设备推荐吗？
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T*********0
发帖数: 4816 | 5 先赞后看。
几天前看过你的那个match录像，就很不错。果然是4.0的。明显要比3.5的强很多，但
又同4.5的有差距。
【在 w*****e 的大作中提到】
: 跟几天前发的同一场比赛，同一个set之前的几个game.
: 这次朋友有编辑，效果貌似也好些。请不吝赐教。
: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fDSpiYfMx4
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w*****e
发帖数: 309 | 6 多谢捧场！只是录像质量差了些，有机会一定上传清楚点儿的。
4.5暂时还没想过，现在还是3.5。
【在 T*********0 的大作中提到】
: 先赞后看。
: 几天前看过你的那个match录像，就很不错。果然是4.0的。明显要比3.5的强很多，但
: 又同4.5的有差距。
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w*****e
发帖数: 309 | 7 thanks!
【在 b*e 的大作中提到】
: 你可以搜一下历史贴，以前大家讨论推荐过很多次了。要diy (monopod)或买(qm-1)一
: 个架子，然后高端(gopro)或低端(vado hd)摄像机。
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 8 看了两个games.
你是纯pusher，除了发球没有任何可靠的进攻手段。80%得分是对方的失误。
这种情况下要更加坚定地push. 要用更高的moonball保持落点的深。Moonball的
高度也有利于防止对手轻易上网。
【在 w*****e 的大作中提到】
: 跟几天前发的同一场比赛，同一个set之前的几个game.
: 这次朋友有编辑，效果貌似也好些。请不吝赐教。
: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fDSpiYfMx4
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w*****e
发帖数: 309 | 9 lol
谢谢老肯点评。我是有这个问题，一般比赛刚开始还打得挺猛，赢了两个game之后就有
push的倾向，不敢发力了。落后反而打得更好。
这个对手最后不失误了我就确实很难得分了结果输了比赛。
更高的moonball...得练练。
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: 看了两个games.
: 你是纯pusher，除了发球没有任何可靠的进攻手段。80%得分是对方的失误。
: 这种情况下要更加坚定地push. 要用更高的moonball保持落点的深。Moonball的
: 高度也有利于防止对手轻易上网。
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h******n
发帖数: 734 | 10 guys how do you differentiate aggressiveness from overhit?
I used to overhit a lot and right now I hit a lot slower.
this often bothers me.
add rant:
overhit + lousy footwork ==a failed me. |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 11 I have the opposite issue: underhit. Especially in doubles.
Always set up an easy smash for the opponents...
【在 h******n 的大作中提到】
: guys how do you differentiate aggressiveness from overhit?
: I used to overhit a lot and right now I hit a lot slower.
: this often bothers me.
: add rant:
: overhit + lousy footwork ==a failed me.
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h******n
发帖数: 734 | 12 my shots usually land very short now. so looks like I over-corrected.
lz has a big jump in your serve. great coordination.
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: I have the opposite issue: underhit. Especially in doubles.
: Always set up an easy smash for the opponents...
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w*****e
发帖数: 309 | 13 Thanks! I don't have much an option with my small frame, if I want the ball
to go over the net flat :)
【在 h******n 的大作中提到】
: my shots usually land very short now. so looks like I over-corrected.
: lz has a big jump in your serve. great coordination.
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w*****e
发帖数: 309 | 14 This is a topic I often talk with my tennis buddies. It is a fine line.
Guess only experience makes it better. Playing with opponents with different
styles also helps.
【在 h******n 的大作中提到】
: guys how do you differentiate aggressiveness from overhit?
: I used to overhit a lot and right now I hit a lot slower.
: this often bothers me.
: add rant:
: overhit + lousy footwork ==a failed me.
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 15 aggressive is more about being sharp, how quick you respond, how explosive
you are off the first step, how quick you get to the ball, get set, taking
the ball at its peak or on the rise. How hard your hit is some what
irrelevant. Aggressive does not mean attack, it's aggressive with your feet.
Overhit, trying drive winner from behind the baseline; try to drive winner
inside the court but loose balance in process; going for winners on the run
(go for broke, not sure if that consider as overhit).
【在 h******n 的大作中提到】
: guys how do you differentiate aggressiveness from overhit?
: I used to overhit a lot and right now I hit a lot slower.
: this often bothers me.
: add rant:
: overhit + lousy footwork ==a failed me.
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h******n
发帖数: 734 | 16 is overhit defiend as hitting an aggressive shot when you are in a defensive
position? the symptom i used to have is to hit the ball out more often than
desired.
feet.
run
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: aggressive is more about being sharp, how quick you respond, how explosive
: you are off the first step, how quick you get to the ball, get set, taking
: the ball at its peak or on the rise. How hard your hit is some what
: irrelevant. Aggressive does not mean attack, it's aggressive with your feet.
: Overhit, trying drive winner from behind the baseline; try to drive winner
: inside the court but loose balance in process; going for winners on the run
: (go for broke, not sure if that consider as overhit).
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 17 really depends on your defensive position, so sure you can say that, but
there occasions where you has no choice but go for broke.... personally I
would not consider those overhit....
defensive
than
【在 h******n 的大作中提到】
: is overhit defiend as hitting an aggressive shot when you are in a defensive
: position? the symptom i used to have is to hit the ball out more often than
: desired.
:
: feet.
: run
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h******n
发帖数: 734 | 18 got it. btw fully agree on the footwork part. at the net or pulled out wide
u'll have to go for winner.
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: really depends on your defensive position, so sure you can say that, but
: there occasions where you has no choice but go for broke.... personally I
: would not consider those overhit....
:
: defensive
: than
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w*****e
发帖数: 309 | 19 Heidao, you are definitely one of the most experienced players here and I
have a lot of respect towards you, but I just can't agree that hitting hard
and deep is irrelevant when it comes to aggressiveness...
like your emphasis of footwork though.
feet.
run
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: aggressive is more about being sharp, how quick you respond, how explosive
: you are off the first step, how quick you get to the ball, get set, taking
: the ball at its peak or on the rise. How hard your hit is some what
: irrelevant. Aggressive does not mean attack, it's aggressive with your feet.
: Overhit, trying drive winner from behind the baseline; try to drive winner
: inside the court but loose balance in process; going for winners on the run
: (go for broke, not sure if that consider as overhit).
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 20 Sorry for not making myself more clear.
What i meant is if you do all the stuff i mentioned in my aggressive section
the ball will be naturally be deep with pace and spin. Hitting deep and
hard are not your goals, they
are irrelevant because they are just a result or product when your goal is
achieved.
another way to look at it is if I advice you to hit harder and deeper most
likely result is you get more tight, muscles the ball more, possibly hitting
late.
focus on something that you have direct control over. In that sense it's
irrelevant.
hard
【在 w*****e 的大作中提到】
: Heidao, you are definitely one of the most experienced players here and I
: have a lot of respect towards you, but I just can't agree that hitting hard
: and deep is irrelevant when it comes to aggressiveness...
: like your emphasis of footwork though.
:
: feet.
: run
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w*****e
发帖数: 309 | 21 Thanks for the explanation.
To me this is almost like a positive attitude rather than being aggressive.
I am with you that one should always have this positive attitude.
But the aggressiveness in my mind is a little different.
For example you have two options, one is to hit the ball deep with some
probability of hitting it out, one is to hit it safely to the middle of
court. The aggressiveness I was thinking of is the something that helps you
make a decision in this situation. In my opinion, the aggressiveness should
be decided by the style of the opponent, the level of your play at the time,
environment, and many more factors.
Sorry for picking bones out of an egg, but it is just a pleasure to talk
about tennis with you:)
section
hitting
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: Sorry for not making myself more clear.
: What i meant is if you do all the stuff i mentioned in my aggressive section
: the ball will be naturally be deep with pace and spin. Hitting deep and
: hard are not your goals, they
: are irrelevant because they are just a result or product when your goal is
: achieved.
: another way to look at it is if I advice you to hit harder and deeper most
: likely result is you get more tight, muscles the ball more, possibly hitting
: late.
: focus on something that you have direct control over. In that sense it's
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 22 I am not with you on the 2 options. Because i feel you have 3 options 1.
High and heavy, 2. Drive 3. Flat. Well 4th is drop shot. All of first 3 are
all deep. I do not believe hitting safe to the middle of court is an option.
Its true my high heavy may land to the middle but intention is always play
deep. (Exception would be if someone is approaching to the net)
A difference here is i do not think about if i should play deep or play safe
. These are not options on my mind. I have 3 shots, I just need to pick one
and execute on it. Whether it lands deep or in the middle, i do not care i
only need to focus on execute that shot properly. (If done properly it will
be deep yet with plenty margin)
.
you
should
time,
【在 w*****e 的大作中提到】
: Thanks for the explanation.
: To me this is almost like a positive attitude rather than being aggressive.
: I am with you that one should always have this positive attitude.
: But the aggressiveness in my mind is a little different.
: For example you have two options, one is to hit the ball deep with some
: probability of hitting it out, one is to hit it safely to the middle of
: court. The aggressiveness I was thinking of is the something that helps you
: make a decision in this situation. In my opinion, the aggressiveness should
: be decided by the style of the opponent, the level of your play at the time,
: environment, and many more factors.
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w*****e
发帖数: 309 | 23 it was just a simple fake example I made up to demonstrate one will face
options at times and one will need his aggressiveness level to make a
decision.
I could/should have said hitting deep to the middle or hitting deep at a big
angle. I think the latter is more aggressive and in some situations it is
the right choice in some situations it is not.
are
.
play
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: I am not with you on the 2 options. Because i feel you have 3 options 1.
: High and heavy, 2. Drive 3. Flat. Well 4th is drop shot. All of first 3 are
: all deep. I do not believe hitting safe to the middle of court is an option.
: Its true my high heavy may land to the middle but intention is always play
: deep. (Exception would be if someone is approaching to the net)
: A difference here is i do not think about if i should play deep or play safe
: . These are not options on my mind. I have 3 shots, I just need to pick one
: and execute on it. Whether it lands deep or in the middle, i do not care i
: only need to focus on execute that shot properly. (If done properly it will
: be deep yet with plenty margin)
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 24 I think you missed my underlining philosophy which is it's just another shot
and you are playing for the next shot... there is no level of
aggressiveness as you described. Sure, some shots may seem more aggressive
than others from spectators point of view. But to the player himself its
just another shot... a shot with 3 options of execution.
big
【在 w*****e 的大作中提到】
: it was just a simple fake example I made up to demonstrate one will face
: options at times and one will need his aggressiveness level to make a
: decision.
: I could/should have said hitting deep to the middle or hitting deep at a big
: angle. I think the latter is more aggressive and in some situations it is
: the right choice in some situations it is not.
:
: are
: .
: play
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w*****e
发帖数: 309 | 25 OK, I will save it for my future self...
shot
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: I think you missed my underlining philosophy which is it's just another shot
: and you are playing for the next shot... there is no level of
: aggressiveness as you described. Sure, some shots may seem more aggressive
: than others from spectators point of view. But to the player himself its
: just another shot... a shot with 3 options of execution.
:
: big
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 26 Yea, it's a bit abstract. Maybe you'll understand what im trying to say
eventually or you may come out with your own perspective.
When you missed a "put away " shot or a sitter, ask yourself what were you
thinking. Same goes when you hit a good shot, what was on your mind.
【在 w*****e 的大作中提到】
: OK, I will save it for my future self...
:
: shot
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w*****e
发帖数: 309 | 27 lol
why is it so quiet here? we can just do wechat next time when we talk :)
you
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: Yea, it's a bit abstract. Maybe you'll understand what im trying to say
: eventually or you may come out with your own perspective.
: When you missed a "put away " shot or a sitter, ask yourself what were you
: thinking. Same goes when you hit a good shot, what was on your mind.
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 28 Between deep middle or deep angle, that's more of game plan. Which is more
aggressive or more risky really has to do with your positioning and how that
shot came about (changing of angle ) frankly i think the way to approach
this is have a game plan, your movement should evolve around that. You
choice of angle or middle should let your subconscious decide.
big
【在 w*****e 的大作中提到】
: it was just a simple fake example I made up to demonstrate one will face
: options at times and one will need his aggressiveness level to make a
: decision.
: I could/should have said hitting deep to the middle or hitting deep at a big
: angle. I think the latter is more aggressive and in some situations it is
: the right choice in some situations it is not.
:
: are
: .
: play
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W********T
发帖数: 70 | 29 打得不错。应该有4.0水平。双反和击球路线很好。有以下建议1）接二发应有攻击意识
。就录像看，你接一发和二发都在底线后一尺。对手二发没上旋，应进场争取一拍拍死
。这是意识问题，你的技术可以做到。2）一发太浅，对手站在底线内攻你一发。一发
争取落点靠近发球线。3）反手削球失误多。能下蹲双反打的就不要削， 非削不可的要
争取贴网过。 |
w*****e
发帖数: 309 | 30 谢谢肯定，多谢指点!
同意你的看法，这次看录像确实意识到了削球的不足。一发嘛，我还以为够深了，我再
看看。肯定是当时手软了 呵呵。
【在 W********T 的大作中提到】
: 打得不错。应该有4.0水平。双反和击球路线很好。有以下建议1）接二发应有攻击意识
: 。就录像看，你接一发和二发都在底线后一尺。对手二发没上旋，应进场争取一拍拍死
: 。这是意识问题，你的技术可以做到。2）一发太浅，对手站在底线内攻你一发。一发
: 争取落点靠近发球线。3）反手削球失误多。能下蹲双反打的就不要削， 非削不可的要
: 争取贴网过。
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