f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 1 have to say for day 1, some are just soooo nervous to the level of ridiculous.
yeah, survive for maybe another day for his dear $10k buy-in. | d**x
发帖数: 1934 | 2 不信别人有T。。。
ridiculous.
the
flop.
called.
.
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: have to say for day 1, some are just soooo nervous to the level of ridiculous.
: yeah, survive for maybe another day for his dear $10k buy-in.
| f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 3 i meant the other guy with JTo... what the hell was he worried about? KT, 22
? just check and plain call?!
【在 d**x 的大作中提到】
: 不信别人有T。。。
:
: ridiculous.
: the
: flop.
: called.
: .
| d**x
发帖数: 1934 | 4 呵呵
注意到了，re-raise is all the way...
22
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: i meant the other guy with JTo... what the hell was he worried about? KT, 22
: ? just check and plain call?!
| m******1
发帖数: 715 | 5 because it is Cunningham :) | f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 6 this might be one of the few crucial hands in his/her whole long tourney as
he/she may realize later on... with 3300 invested and another 4500 to call (
guess would be more than half of his stack), somebody just chickened out and
wanted to see the 2nd day bubble so badly.
if he mini-raised here and most likely Cunningham would fold, at least he
saved a showdown. now it looks to me he already gave up at the turn(unless a
【在 d**x 的大作中提到】
: 呵呵
: 注意到了，re-raise is all the way...
:
: 22
| f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 7 sigh, if i (ever, hehe) put $10K hard earned cold cash in something like
this, you can't be afraid of anybody. knowing too many pros' names (and even
their diff. styles) is at your huuuuuuge disadvantage, they're human beings
not monsters (bunches of big name pros got busted in day 1, like JC Tran,
Dan Harrington, Tom "Durrr" Dwan...). otherwise, just admit you can't play
at this level against deep pockets, hehe.
"oh, i was doing well until day 2..." means nothing with still about 3000
players t
【在 m******1 的大作中提到】
: because it is Cunningham :)
| j**y
发帖数: 7014 | 8 ding
even
beings
weak
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: sigh, if i (ever, hehe) put $10K hard earned cold cash in something like
: this, you can't be afraid of anybody. knowing too many pros' names (and even
: their diff. styles) is at your huuuuuuge disadvantage, they're human beings
: not monsters (bunches of big name pros got busted in day 1, like JC Tran,
: Dan Harrington, Tom "Durrr" Dwan...). otherwise, just admit you can't play
: at this level against deep pockets, hehe.
: "oh, i was doing well until day 2..." means nothing with still about 3000
: players t
| i********r
发帖数: 1153 | 9 there is no value in raising, a worse hand won't call. he could reraise
large to avoid chop though, but it's kind of risky for tournament play.
22
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: i meant the other guy with JTo... what the hell was he worried about? KT, 22
: ? just check and plain call?!
| f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 10 2 values:
1) insurance (whether it'll be a chop);
2) avoid a showdown (bigger value) and keep your opponent guessing.
he plays too timid, then what's the point of calling pre-flop with JTo out
of position? after all, this is one of only few flops/boards good for
his holding.
he plays inconsistent too. if he can lead out on flop, a check on the turn
can only mean trapping, and a check-call on the river is just contradictary.
what kind of card he's counting on for the river? A,K,Q would be the sam
【在 i********r 的大作中提到】
: there is no value in raising, a worse hand won't call. he could reraise
: large to avoid chop though, but it's kind of risky for tournament play.
:
: 22
| i********r
发帖数: 1153 | 11 if you bet just to avoid showdown you are going to lose a lot of money
playing poker. you should have very definite purpose for each of your action
. just to avoid showdown is definitely not one of them.
generally you bet to either get called by a worse hand (value bet), or fold
a better hand (bluff). that's on the river, you can also bet for protection
for your marginal holdings.
in this spot, Cunningham's bet is a value bet imo, he's trying to get value
from a A, a K or a pocket pair. There's
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: 2 values:
: 1) insurance (whether it'll be a chop);
: 2) avoid a showdown (bigger value) and keep your opponent guessing.
: he plays too timid, then what's the point of calling pre-flop with JTo out
: of position? after all, this is one of only few flops/boards good for
: his holding.
: he plays inconsistent too. if he can lead out on flop, a check on the turn
: can only mean trapping, and a check-call on the river is just contradictary.
: what kind of card he's counting on for the river? A,K,Q would be the sam
| f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 12 no, you don't raise to purely avoid a showdown, you have a VALUE hand and
your opponent has to PAY to see it(basic rule to max your gain), if not
called, then you avoid a showdown(a side benefit for your following hands).
in another word, it's not wise to check on the turn and then plain call on
river, and then show such a hand without any additional gain (now you're
showing your cards and fear for FREE).
if you can't raise with this hand, then it's only about when your time would
run out in suc
【在 i********r 的大作中提到】
: if you bet just to avoid showdown you are going to lose a lot of money
: playing poker. you should have very definite purpose for each of your action
: . just to avoid showdown is definitely not one of them.
: generally you bet to either get called by a worse hand (value bet), or fold
: a better hand (bluff). that's on the river, you can also bet for protection
: for your marginal holdings.
: in this spot, Cunningham's bet is a value bet imo, he's trying to get value
: from a A, a K or a pocket pair. There's
| f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 13 from some blog about the "nutty" part in this hand and fear when playing vs.
a pro.
....
There were only three hands that Cunningham could have that would have his
opponent beaten: pocket kings (for kings full of tens), K-10 (for tens full
of kings), and pocket deuces (for quads). It was, objectively speaking,
pretty darn unlikely that Cunningham held any of those. His opponent should
have been, oh, maybe 90% confident that he had a better hand than Cunningham
did, or at worst that they both had |
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