w******s
发帖数: 16209 | 1 registered in full tilt.
first hand goes to 2/4 nl table, have 10, J, flop two pair, flop tried to
check raise, one guy bet, the other guy instant allin. cash game, I call.
he has QK, rivered A, made straight :(
turned to small table, 5 dollar buy in for 0.10/0.25.. up to 25.. and then
all wiped out .
Last hand is floped a set.. but set over set :_(
full tilt!
saw some really sick hands..
one of them is flop QQK, three guy all in, one guy A high nut flush draw,
one guy pocket K, one guy QJ, the | d**x
发帖数: 1934 | 2 pokerstar is more realistic...
【在 w******s 的大作中提到】
: registered in full tilt.
: first hand goes to 2/4 nl table, have 10, J, flop two pair, flop tried to
: check raise, one guy bet, the other guy instant allin. cash game, I call.
: he has QK, rivered A, made straight :(
: turned to small table, 5 dollar buy in for 0.10/0.25.. up to 25.. and then
: all wiped out .
: Last hand is floped a set.. but set over set :_(
: full tilt!
: saw some really sick hands..
: one of them is flop QQK, three guy all in, one guy A high nut flush draw,
| w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 3 Others bad beat you a lot and you bad beat others a lot, that doesn't mean
there is no manipulation.
By making low odds beat high odds significantly more than normal, it reduce
the factor of skill and increase factor of chance.
Who benefit from this?
Fishes who usually gamble on low odds.
Pokerroom who get high rakes from high level of drama, who protect their customers
since fishes have less disadvantage to sharks.
If this tournament moves to pokerstars, I will join. | D*A
发帖数: 1169 | 4 all the same!
such as,
kk vs k2 flop 22k
kk vs kj flop 3910 8 7
a8 vs 99 flop 988 8 7
..
【在 d**x 的大作中提到】
: pokerstar is more realistic...
| f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 5 haha, you play 2/4NL right away on fulltilt? admire.
come to join us, so far, we don't have any real bad beats yet...
mean
reduce
customers
【在 w***w 的大作中提到】
: Others bad beat you a lot and you bad beat others a lot, that doesn't mean
: there is no manipulation.
: By making low odds beat high odds significantly more than normal, it reduce
: the factor of skill and increase factor of chance.
: Who benefit from this?
: Fishes who usually gamble on low odds.
: Pokerroom who get high rakes from high level of drama, who protect their customers
: since fishes have less disadvantage to sharks.
: If this tournament moves to pokerstars, I will join.
| p*****l
发帖数: 399 | 6 2/4 NL is well below his bankroll.
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: haha, you play 2/4NL right away on fulltilt? admire.
: come to join us, so far, we don't have any real bad beats yet...
:
: mean
: reduce
: customers
| f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 7 i know, so a $5.5 is penny, just 1 BB.
【在 p*****l 的大作中提到】
: 2/4 NL is well below his bankroll.
| p*****l
发帖数: 399 | 8 hehe, time is money too. Should ask him to sponsor the tournament instead.
say 1K added, haha.
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: i know, so a $5.5 is penny, just 1 BB.
| f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 9 great, we're cheap, if he donates $10, we'll add it to the prize pool, and
name it "wavelets cup ($10 guaranteed)".
【在 p*****l 的大作中提到】
: hehe, time is money too. Should ask him to sponsor the tournament instead.
: say 1K added, haha.
| p*****l
发帖数: 399 | 10 Does fulltilt allow extra money to be added to the prize pool? It's a good
idea to donate some $ to get the naming right.
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: great, we're cheap, if he donates $10, we'll add it to the prize pool, and
: name it "wavelets cup ($10 guaranteed)".
| | | f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 11 good question, i'll ask...
【在 p*****l 的大作中提到】
: Does fulltilt allow extra money to be added to the prize pool? It's a good
: idea to donate some $ to get the naming right.
| m******1
发帖数: 715 | 12 The guy pushed with open draw and two over cards. In his calculation, he
had 14 outs.
How about relative stack size? It is not a bad move, particularly if one of
you is short stacked.
| c********e
发帖数: 267 | 13 我靠，同感！！！
我昨天还想上来抱怨！！
大概玩了3天，被BAD BEAT 6-7次，自己BAD BEAT别人不超过2次。
昨晚上手里KK flop 775 turn 2 对方CALL 我ALL IN
手里筹码不多，CALL: 他SHOW 4D6D RIVER 3! | y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 14 2/4 is way too big.
I played 0.1/0.25 game for 15 days on ftp.
The website(ftp)'s rake is 5000$
amazing.
if a winner plays 2/4 game, I guess he can win 500$ per day.
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: haha, you play 2/4NL right away on fulltilt? admire.
: come to join us, so far, we don't have any real bad beats yet...
:
: mean
: reduce
: customers
| y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 15 If you are winner in 2/4, time is not a big problem.
Every hour you can win 100$ at least, from my estimation.
【在 p*****l 的大作中提到】
: hehe, time is money too. Should ask him to sponsor the tournament instead.
: say 1K added, haha.
| y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 16 I guess our skills are not too good. Winner can still can win even bad beats.
In the long run, the bad beat can be even out.
【在 c********e 的大作中提到】
: 我靠，同感！！！
: 我昨天还想上来抱怨！！
: 大概玩了3天，被BAD BEAT 6-7次，自己BAD BEAT别人不超过2次。
: 昨晚上手里KK flop 775 turn 2 对方CALL 我ALL IN
: 手里筹码不多，CALL: 他SHOW 4D6D RIVER 3!
| f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 17 呵呵，BADBEAT长期来讲，还是属于小概率事件，只不过受害时印象比较深就是了。
昨天俺被搞两次：
1) As5s in a multi-way pot.
flop: 7s3s2s, do i have anything to worry about? bet medium with position, 3
callers.
turn: Kd. check to me. guess someone could have Ks and now gets a pair. bet
big and one caller (hehe, want to have 2 callers).
river: 7d. bet big and someone shoves, what else can i do?
33, i don't blame him at all.
2) KK before final table, good stack.
limp at UTG, waiting for some medium stacks to shove so i can cap it.
none. but SB
【在 c********e 的大作中提到】
: 我靠，同感！！！
: 我昨天还想上来抱怨！！
: 大概玩了3天，被BAD BEAT 6-7次，自己BAD BEAT别人不超过2次。
: 昨晚上手里KK flop 775 turn 2 对方CALL 我ALL IN
: 手里筹码不多，CALL: 他SHOW 4D6D RIVER 3!
| c****u
发帖数: 3277 | 18 well, with nuts on the flop, you want to charge a lot to weaker flush
or flush draws. Thus you want to bet more and if you get raised, you can
shove on the flop. Basically, this game is about those rare events and
nut flush is certainly something you want to make a lot of money with.
At the table, if the allin is very big, it's not a difficult laydown IMO.
Since you want to charge a lot on the turn in case they hit full house,
now it looks like they hit it so it's really not a very difficult fol
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: 呵呵，BADBEAT长期来讲，还是属于小概率事件，只不过受害时印象比较深就是了。
: 昨天俺被搞两次：
: 1) As5s in a multi-way pot.
: flop: 7s3s2s, do i have anything to worry about? bet medium with position, 3
: callers.
: turn: Kd. check to me. guess someone could have Ks and now gets a pair. bet
: big and one caller (hehe, want to have 2 callers).
: river: 7d. bet big and someone shoves, what else can i do?
: 33, i don't blame him at all.
: 2) KK before final table, good stack.
| D*A
发帖数: 1169 | 19 The first rule for online poker: Never slow play anything at any time
3
bet
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: 呵呵，BADBEAT长期来讲，还是属于小概率事件，只不过受害时印象比较深就是了。
: 昨天俺被搞两次：
: 1) As5s in a multi-way pot.
: flop: 7s3s2s, do i have anything to worry about? bet medium with position, 3
: callers.
: turn: Kd. check to me. guess someone could have Ks and now gets a pair. bet
: big and one caller (hehe, want to have 2 callers).
: river: 7d. bet big and someone shoves, what else can i do?
: 33, i don't blame him at all.
: 2) KK before final table, good stack.
| f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 20 俺没有啊，5个人的pot，俺有nuts，有position，bet了1/3 pot on an all spade
flop with the nuts...
手里拿着As，本来别人也做flush的机会就小了很多，flop trash牌面也没有可能hit
Ax, Kx, Qx的可能性。
bet再多的话，这牌浪费了。33那小子怎么也不可能fold的了，注定的命运。
当然，有时俺也故意overbet这种牌，如果out of position的话，如果没有As的话，反
其道而行之，假装protect。
【在 D*A 的大作中提到】
: The first rule for online poker: Never slow play anything at any time
:
: 3
: bet
| | | w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 21 你这个算不上什么bad beats.
第一个66%, 第二个57%, 输了挺正常.
倒是你badbeat人家的比较低概率.
3
bet
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: 呵呵，BADBEAT长期来讲，还是属于小概率事件，只不过受害时印象比较深就是了。
: 昨天俺被搞两次：
: 1) As5s in a multi-way pot.
: flop: 7s3s2s, do i have anything to worry about? bet medium with position, 3
: callers.
: turn: Kd. check to me. guess someone could have Ks and now gets a pair. bet
: big and one caller (hehe, want to have 2 callers).
: river: 7d. bet big and someone shoves, what else can i do?
: 33, i don't blame him at all.
: 2) KK before final table, good stack.
| w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 22 现在问题是fulltilt这样子是不是属于正常范围的bad beats?
online pokerrooms也有很多,有些发牌就很正常.
像fulltilt这样,你用正常概率打牌实际就成了错误打法. | c****u
发帖数: 3277 | 23 你基本上要想什么情况下你能赚最多钱，最好的情况就是有个low flush, 因此你如果
只bet
1/3 pot的话，非常不可能在这副牌上赚够，或者stack 对方。因此你至少要bet一个
pot
左右，2 pot也不是不可以如果stack 很深。 并且，如果有人拿了两对或者trip raise
你，你最好的情况就是reraise big(allin)逼他们fold他们的draw.所以说对cash game
来说，
最重要的是那些rare event, 并且最重要的是那些rare events里面你自己是不是有
nuts.
再比如，如果你的牌不是Nut flush, 那你反而可以少bet一些，一方面你会在
有人slow play nuts的时候少输，另一方面，如果人家ace high的flush draw hit
到，你fold起来也相当容易。
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: 俺没有啊，5个人的pot，俺有nuts，有position，bet了1/3 pot on an all spade
: flop with the nuts...
: 手里拿着As，本来别人也做flush的机会就小了很多，flop trash牌面也没有可能hit
: Ax, Kx, Qx的可能性。
: bet再多的话，这牌浪费了。33那小子怎么也不可能fold的了，注定的命运。
: 当然，有时俺也故意overbet这种牌，如果out of position的话，如果没有As的话，反
: 其道而行之，假装protect。
| i********r
发帖数: 1153 | 24 so you bet small when you were ahead and bet big when you were behind?
3
bet
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: 呵呵，BADBEAT长期来讲，还是属于小概率事件，只不过受害时印象比较深就是了。
: 昨天俺被搞两次：
: 1) As5s in a multi-way pot.
: flop: 7s3s2s, do i have anything to worry about? bet medium with position, 3
: callers.
: turn: Kd. check to me. guess someone could have Ks and now gets a pair. bet
: big and one caller (hehe, want to have 2 callers).
: river: 7d. bet big and someone shoves, what else can i do?
: 33, i don't blame him at all.
: 2) KK before final table, good stack.
| h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 25 fryking，什么时候试试在pokerstar比赛吧。如果fulltilt真是drama比较多，你们这
种老在上面玩的其实是吃亏。
mean
reduce
customers
【在 w***w 的大作中提到】
: Others bad beat you a lot and you bad beat others a lot, that doesn't mean
: there is no manipulation.
: By making low odds beat high odds significantly more than normal, it reduce
: the factor of skill and increase factor of chance.
: Who benefit from this?
: Fishes who usually gamble on low odds.
: Pokerroom who get high rakes from high level of drama, who protect their customers
: since fishes have less disadvantage to sharks.
: If this tournament moves to pokerstars, I will join.
| f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 26 haha, i play at ps sometimes, "turbo double up or nothing".
ftp is ok, as long as you can tolerate it.
【在 h*******s 的大作中提到】
: fryking，什么时候试试在pokerstar比赛吧。如果fulltilt真是drama比较多，你们这
: 种老在上面玩的其实是吃亏。
:
: mean
: reduce
: customers
| h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 27 这个turbo double up or nothing是不是最近很流行？
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: haha, i play at ps sometimes, "turbo double up or nothing".
: ftp is ok, as long as you can tolerate it.
| h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 28 why? because they will call you down anyway?
【在 D*A 的大作中提到】
: The first rule for online poker: Never slow play anything at any time
:
: 3
: bet
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