M********g
发帖数: 717 | 1 NEW S05E03 Million Dollar Cash Game Full Tilt 2011 FULL EPISODE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKKdBLX7TN4&feature=related
42:20-47:00
Feldman has 53s, on A53 rb flop after ivey bets, benyamine calls, he raises
then benyamine shove, what possibly can he beats, A2? Everything else, set,
two pair, straight, he's all drawing so thin, if not dead. How can he call
the shove here? I am totally lost. He's only got 2.5 to 1. And I have no
idea how he raises at the first place, 53 is at the bottom of the raising
range, against 1 bet and call. |
W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 2 I think the commentator explained this hand decently well to make sense of
it.
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M********g
发帖数: 717 | 3 There was not explanation except he's got 2.5 to 1 to call. And I do not
think it's worth it.
Btw, these two commentator are ludicrous. They often criticize the player's
value betting size, like their sizing is so superior, actually their
suggested sizing is just 2/3 of the pots. If you watch a couple of episodes,
you would hear few, if not none, knowledgeable info. I doubt their strategy
works on 2/5 table.
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: I think the commentator explained this hand decently well to make sense of
: it.
: ★ Sent from iPhone App: iReader Mitbbs Lite 7.36
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 4 The first thing they said before the raise is how shallow their stack size
is compared to pot size. Plus benjamini is obviously not a rock we see daily
at the casino. Isn't he the one who raise river with a smaller flush at
river to fold out DN's bigger flush and get a call from doyal with over pair
at HSP?
There was not explanation except he's got 2.5 to 1 to call. And I do not
think it's wort........
★ Sent from iPhone App: iReader Mitbbs Lite 7.36
【在 M********g 的大作中提到】
: There was not explanation except he's got 2.5 to 1 to call. And I do not
: think it's worth it.
: Btw, these two commentator are ludicrous. They often criticize the player's
: value betting size, like their sizing is so superior, actually their
: suggested sizing is just 2/3 of the pots. If you watch a couple of episodes,
: you would hear few, if not none, knowledgeable info. I doubt their strategy
: works on 2/5 table.
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M********g
发帖数: 717 | 5 How shallow the stack is exactly why he cannot call. In his average raising
range, it is a committed pot for Feldman already. How often Benjamine
expects Feldman would fold here? Almost no folding equity. That is why
almost no bluff here. And Benjamine must be crushing Feldman's range.
daily
pair
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: The first thing they said before the raise is how shallow their stack size
: is compared to pot size. Plus benjamini is obviously not a rock we see daily
: at the casino. Isn't he the one who raise river with a smaller flush at
: river to fold out DN's bigger flush and get a call from doyal with over pair
: at HSP?
:
: There was not explanation except he's got 2.5 to 1 to call. And I do not
: think it's wort........
: ★ Sent from iPhone App: iReader Mitbbs Lite 7.36
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M********g
发帖数: 717 | 6 i did not expect Feldman to be this bad. The effective stack was 150BB+
from the start of this hand. And he lost the whole stack with bottom 2 pair.
I have no idea how professional this was.
raising
【在 M********g 的大作中提到】
: How shallow the stack is exactly why he cannot call. In his average raising
: range, it is a committed pot for Feldman already. How often Benjamine
: expects Feldman would fold here? Almost no folding equity. That is why
: almost no bluff here. And Benjamine must be crushing Feldman's range.
:
: daily
: pair
|
W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 7 I don't know what type of meta game they were playing at the time. How thin
they were pushing. I just thought with the stack size it is not completely
insane to raise/call with 2 pair. Have you seen the hand Ivey played vs
mercer at HSP? Mercer 3 bet pre with a3 or something. Ivey called with 9s.
Then Ivey check raised with over pair and tank called mercer's 4 bet shove
with wheel draws. How do u make sense of that? Raise call with 2 pair does
not look so bad any more does it?
How shallow the stack is exactly why he cannot call. In his average raising
range, it is........
★ Sent from iPhone App: iReader Mitbbs Lite 7.36
【在 M********g 的大作中提到】
: How shallow the stack is exactly why he cannot call. In his average raising
: range, it is a committed pot for Feldman already. How often Benjamine
: expects Feldman would fold here? Almost no folding equity. That is why
: almost no bluff here. And Benjamine must be crushing Feldman's range.
:
: daily
: pair
|
M********g
发帖数: 717 | 8 I guess you are right. This is now the only reason i can make sense of these
plays. Pure mind game.
thin
.
raising
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: I don't know what type of meta game they were playing at the time. How thin
: they were pushing. I just thought with the stack size it is not completely
: insane to raise/call with 2 pair. Have you seen the hand Ivey played vs
: mercer at HSP? Mercer 3 bet pre with a3 or something. Ivey called with 9s.
: Then Ivey check raised with over pair and tank called mercer's 4 bet shove
: with wheel draws. How do u make sense of that? Raise call with 2 pair does
: not look so bad any more does it?
:
: How shallow the stack is exactly why he cannot call. In his average raising
: range, it is........
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 9 here is the video. Watched this quite a while ago. It is actually A4s. but
the rest are correct.. I guess my memory is ok.. lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MZH9Fkz8z4 |
W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 10 got to love phill's comments when he made the call. "I guess you got me. I call." lol.. i have heard fish saying that many times at 1/2 tables. The greatest and the fish seems to play the same sometimes, but they really don't. "welcome to the Ivey world.".. lol |
