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TexasHoldem版 - the biggest leak of small stake players
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p******a
发帖数: 975
1
The biggest leak of small stakes players is that they watch too much high
stakes poker.
I played this hand about an hour ago.
Fold to button, who is a winning reg steal about 60% at button. He folds to
3bet about 54%, i.e, he calls with a lot of trash and tries to outplay his
opponents with position. He is a very good player in this level. But his
range is just so weak.
I was SB with TcQc. I 3bet for value. BB folded, Button called.
Flop came 8c Jd 3c. I cbet 2/3 pot, planning to shove against a raise. He
call.
Turn came 9c. I hit my flush. At this point I think I have the best hand. If
he happened to have A high flush or King high flush, good for him. The
question is how to get all the money in.
Since his range is so weak, I think he will try to outplay me by betting
large on this scary board if I show weakness. If I lead small, he may get
good odd to draw with KcJ or AcJ or AcK. If I bet large, I may lost value
from hand he would bluff with, which I think is his entire range. So, I
check. he bet 2/3 pot, I ship. Since SPR is small at this point, I don't
think he can fold if he has a A high or K hing draw. Bluff hand folds anyway
. He instantly call with 6c4c.
Every one considered himself as Ivey these days. After watching high stakes
games too much, even NL100 players think about balance range, make hero call
/fold, outplay villain with position all the time. All these things are
complete none sense in small stake games.
The reason why these things are important for high stakes rollers is also
different from what most people think. It's not only because they think much
. The more important reason is that they feel the pressure as well when pot
is large. Isildur explained that how he maked Ivey and Dwan nervous and
moved them out of their A game by creating huge pot. So, small stakes
players, just forget about being cool and making huge bluffs. Most small
stakes players won't feel too nervous about losing several buy-ins within a
day.
Call my 3bet with 6c4c is just giving away money. OK, say I have AsJs in the
same spot. I bet flop bet turn and he ship. Am I going to fold? Hell No!!!
His range is just so weak. The times that he has nothing and fold and he has
a A high draw compensates the rare occasions that he gets lucky.
c*****t
发帖数: 817
2
同意。所以越是high stake越是适合donk。因为donk自己fearless所以可以利用别人对
钱的恐惧感来赢钱。比如每次都猛打。成千上万刀的锅。别人没有two-pair以上的牌力
没法call。这和牌技无关。isildur钱多胆大,所以他可以生生把Ivey打成scared
money。牌打成这个样子,基本上就是metagame。两个人往悬崖飙车,谁先停谁输。要
是换成1/2。谁都不鸟你。call to keep u honest。谁管你在represent什么牌。
q****8
发帖数: 3281
3
Nice turn check!
but I don't think 64s is that bad.
In hu, I will never fold 64s in sb to 3bet.
In 6max, I will often play this hand as Btn vs sb or bb's 3bet, if the stack
is at least 100bb. Call or 4bet both fine, it depends.
I don't play full ring, but I think it is probably a fold.
I don't know man, maybe I like to gamble.
y********n
发帖数: 2063
4
I think this hand does make sense.
First of all, he will not flat everyone's 3bet, since you 3bet with crap, I
do think he can flat 46s.
Second of all, he did call your CB on the flop, instead
of raising. It means he is calling yo
ur CB with sth.
Thirdly, he will take stab on the turn
no matter whether he hits or not.
I do think villain's play is fine. At
least there are no big mistakes.
(I guess if you bet on the turn, he wi
ll call. When you shut down on the riv
er, he will go allin.)
I do play the same way against habitua
l 3bettors.

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【在 p******a 的大作中提到】
: The biggest leak of small stakes players is that they watch too much high
: stakes poker.
: I played this hand about an hour ago.
: Fold to button, who is a winning reg steal about 60% at button. He folds to
: 3bet about 54%, i.e, he calls with a lot of trash and tries to outplay his
: opponents with position. He is a very good player in this level. But his
: range is just so weak.
: I was SB with TcQc. I 3bet for value. BB folded, Button called.
: Flop came 8c Jd 3c. I cbet 2/3 pot, planning to shove against a raise. He
: call.

y********n
发帖数: 2063
5
OK, say I have AsJs in the
same spot. I bet flop bet turn and he ship. Am I going to fold?
----->point out a mistake.
Think of your entire range, instead of
peticular hands.
Suppose you have AT and 99, you double
barrel, and he ships, will you fold?
I do not know. Since he calls your CB
on the flop, as I mentioned before, he
has equity in the pot, but you do not
know how much equity he has.
I guess you should fold those hands ev
en you double barrel.
By the way, the hand you gave us is a
cooler for the villain.
Supposing you have KK or AJo in that s
pot, wi
ll everything run out the same?

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【在 p******a 的大作中提到】
: The biggest leak of small stakes players is that they watch too much high
: stakes poker.
: I played this hand about an hour ago.
: Fold to button, who is a winning reg steal about 60% at button. He folds to
: 3bet about 54%, i.e, he calls with a lot of trash and tries to outplay his
: opponents with position. He is a very good player in this level. But his
: range is just so weak.
: I was SB with TcQc. I 3bet for value. BB folded, Button called.
: Flop came 8c Jd 3c. I cbet 2/3 pot, planning to shove against a raise. He
: call.

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