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TrustInJesus版 - 【约翰福音】6:22-27 天上的粮:你们找我乃是因吃饼得饱
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j*****7
发帖数: 10575
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第二日,站在海那边的众人,知道那里没有别的船,只有一只小船,又知道耶稣没有同
他的门徒上船,乃是门徒自己去的。
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然而有几只小船从提比哩亚来,靠近主祝谢后分饼给人吃的地方。
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众人见耶稣和门徒,都不在那里,就上了船,往迦百农去找耶稣。
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既在海那边找着了,就对他说,拉比,是几时到这里来的。
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耶稣回答说,我实实在在地告诉你们,你们找我,并不是因见了神迹,乃是因吃饼得饱。
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不要为那必坏的食物劳力,要为那存到永生的食物劳力,就是人子要赐给你们的。因为
人子是父神所印证的。
接下来就是6章的重点了,比较长,我们分几次看
首先耶稣指出他们的动机:你们找我,并不是因见了神迹,乃是因吃饼得饱
可见这些人还不如大部分看到神迹的人。其他人,看到神迹,所以愿意相信,虽然他们
的信心是放在所见的神迹上。
可是这里这帮人,甚至还不如那些把信心放在眼见上的,他们甚至最关心的不是神迹,
而是好处,物质的好处,有饼吃。
看到这里我们可能觉得他们这些人怎么目光如此短呢。话说回来,今天教会里,这样的
人,还少么?
G*****9
发帖数: 3225
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是吗?有些人不是为了吃饼,也没有得到交通。
l**********t
发帖数: 5754
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吃饼得饱。
--没有十架的基督
"
Christ does not reply to the question put to him, which would have been
fitted to show to them his power in having come thither by a miracle. But,
on the contrary, he chides them for throwing themselves forward without
consideration; for they were not acquainted with the true and proper reason
of what he did, because they sought in Christ something else than Christ
himself. The fault which he complains of in them is, that they seek Christ
for the sake of the belly and not of the miracles And yet it cannot be
denied that they looked to the miracle; nay more, the Evangelist has already
told us that they were excited by the miracles to follow Christ. But
because they abused the miracles for an improper purpose, he justly
reproaches them with having a greater regard to the belly than to miracles.
His meaning was, that they did not profit by the works of God as they ought
to have done; for the true way of profiting would have been to acknowledge
Christ as the Messiah in such a manner as to surrender themselves to be
taught and governed by him, and, under his guidance, to aspire to the
heavenly kingdom of God.
On the contrary, they expect nothing greater from him than to live happily
and at ease in this world. This is to rob Christ of his chief power; for the
reason why he was given by the Father and revealed himself to men is, that
he may form them anew after the image of God by giving them his Holy Spirit,
and that he may conduct them to eternal life by clothing them with his
righteousness.
It is of great importance, therefore, what we keep in view in the miracles
of Christ; for he who does not aspire to the kingdom of God, but rests
satisfied with the conveniences of the present life, seeks nothing else than
to fill his belly.
In like manner, there are many persons in the present day who would gladly
embrace the gospel, if it were free from the bitterness of the cross, and if
it brought nothing but carnal pleasures. Nay, we see many who make a
Christian profession, that they may live in greater gaiety and with less
restraint. Some through the expectation of gain, others through fear, and
others for the sake of those whom they wish to please, profess to be the
disciples of Christ.
In seeking Christ, therefore, the chief point is, to despise the world and
seek the kingdom of God and his righteousness,
(Matthew 6:33.)
Besides, as men very generally impose on themselves, and persuade themselves
that they are seeking Christ in the best manner, while they debase the
whole of his power, for this reason Christ, in his usual manner, doubles the
word verily, as if by the oath he intended to bring to light the vice which
lurks under our hypocrisy.
"
--John Calvin's commentary.

【在 j*****7 的大作中提到】
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: 第二日,站在海那边的众人,知道那里没有别的船,只有一只小船,又知道耶稣没有同
: 他的门徒上船,乃是门徒自己去的。
: 23
: 然而有几只小船从提比哩亚来,靠近主祝谢后分饼给人吃的地方。
: 24
: 众人见耶稣和门徒,都不在那里,就上了船,往迦百农去找耶稣。
: 25
: 既在海那边找着了,就对他说,拉比,是几时到这里来的。

w*******e
发帖数: 6802
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“可是这里这帮人,甚至还不如那些把信心放在眼见上的,他们甚至最关心的不是神迹,
而是好处,物质的好处,有饼吃。
看到这里我们可能觉得他们这些人怎么目光如此短呢。话说回来,今天教会里,这样的
人,还少么?”
----这段分析好!谢谢分享。
w*******e
发帖数: 6802
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On the contrary, they expect nothing greater from him than
to live happily and at ease in this world.
是的,今生做财主,大约指的就是这个意思。
但今天,我们可能要求的更多,盼望的是,今生做财主,来世做拉撒路。
实在值得警醒啊。

reason

【在 l**********t 的大作中提到】
:
: 吃饼得饱。
: --没有十架的基督
: "
: Christ does not reply to the question put to him, which would have been
: fitted to show to them his power in having come thither by a miracle. But,
: on the contrary, he chides them for throwing themselves forward without
: consideration; for they were not acquainted with the true and proper reason
: of what he did, because they sought in Christ something else than Christ
: himself. The fault which he complains of in them is, that they seek Christ

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