h******n
发帖数: 3599 | 1 【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: hutuxian (拳打南刀北猫脚踢东奇西虎), 信区: Military
标 题: 世界级超导专家郗小星面临80年监禁和100万美元罚款
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri May 22 15:16:55 2015, 美东)
美国联邦检察官指控天普大学物理系主任、华裔教授郗小星向中国提供美国公司开发的
技术，试图获利。
今年47岁的郗小星教授出生在大陆，1987年在北京大学获得物理博士学位，现为美国公
民，他在超导技术领域是世界级专家。
美国地区法院周四（5月21日）以“电信欺诈”的四项罪名起诉他。美国的检控官说，
当时他还没有找到代理律师。
在受到起诉后，郗小星以10万美元获得保释。美联社记者打电话到他家里，但没有能和
他通话。
检控官说，郗小星在2002年利用教授年休机会，到一家美国公司工作。这家公司开发有
二硼化镁的超导薄膜（superconducting device containing magnesium diboride）的
装置，他帮助该公司开发出能使得该技术得以运用的高质量的超导薄膜。
之后，他参加了中国政府的一项科技创新计划。
2004年，他还得到美国国防部的一笔资金购买了这一装置用于研究，但检控官说，他违
反规定在他带的中国大陆博士后学生的帮助下，和包括中国政府机构在内的第三方分享
有关技术。
检控官说，郗小星在发给中国方面的电子邮件中说，他可以帮助在中国建立一个世界级
的薄膜实验室。
提交给法院的检控书中没有提到有关的美国公司的名字。
美国天普大学（Temple University）的一名发言人雷·本茨纳尔周五说，学校已经得
知了有关诉讼，但郗小星作为该校物理系主任的头衔目前并没有变化，学校将和他讨论
这个事情。
一旦罪名成立，郗小星面临的最高处罚为80年监禁和100万美元罚款。
根据网上公开资料，郗小星还是上海交大理学院物理系兼职教授，曾在国际刊物上发表
300多篇科研论文，并持有三项专利，是美国物理学会会员。
郗小星被控事件前，曾在美国留学和工作的天津大学教授张浩5月16日在入境美国时被
逮捕。他和其他五名中国公民因涉嫌“经济间谍罪”和“窃取商业秘密罪”被美国司法
部起诉。 |
t*c
发帖数: 8291 | 2 奥巴马大开国门，每年都为非法移民追加几十亿几百亿预算，
还公然违反法官的判决，这种卖国贼倒是逍遥得很，经常公费打高尔夫。
【在 h******n 的大作中提到】
: 【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
: 发信人: hutuxian (拳打南刀北猫脚踢东奇西虎), 信区: Military
: 标 题: 世界级超导专家郗小星面临80年监禁和100万美元罚款
: 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri May 22 15:16:55 2015, 美东)
: 美国联邦检察官指控天普大学物理系主任、华裔教授郗小星向中国提供美国公司开发的
: 技术，试图获利。
: 今年47岁的郗小星教授出生在大陆，1987年在北京大学获得物理博士学位，现为美国公
: 民，他在超导技术领域是世界级专家。
: 美国地区法院周四（5月21日）以“电信欺诈”的四项罪名起诉他。美国的检控官说，
: 当时他还没有找到代理律师。
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | |
l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 4 尼玛这个是活该了， 以后这些公司谁还会雇用华人？
＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝
法庭文件没有提供这项技术的进一步细节。检察官称，从2004年开始，郗小星逐步从该
公司购买这个装置，并以研究为申请理由，设法从国防部获得补助金。
起诉书说，该公司最初拒绝把装置提供给郗小星，但最终同意给他该装置一年时间，并
签署协议称，郗小星只能将该装置用于测试目的，并同意不允许复制、出售、或转让给
任何第三方。
联邦当局表示，郗小星在中国博士后学生的帮助下，多次违反所签署的协议，并在4封
2010年和中国联系的电子邮件中，承诺帮助中国打造“世界级薄膜实验室”，与中国公
司及中共政府分享这项技术。
天普大学网站删除郗小星个人资料
郗小星在2009年加入天普大学，之前是宾州州立大学物理教授。1997年，他是一个国家
科学基金会奖得主，也是1987年北京大学的物理学博士。
根据百度百科资料，郗小星是上海交通大学理学院（物理系）教授（兼职）。曾在国际
刊物上发表300多篇科研论文，被引用6,500多次，持有三项专利，是美国物理学会会员。
目前尚不清楚郗小星是否已经聘请律师，他本人对此案没有发表评论。天普大学发言人
也拒绝对此事发表评论。
5月21晚，在天普大学网站上已经无法找到郗小星的个人资料。 |
S**C
发帖数: 2964 | 5 Innocent until proven guilty out of window?
Xiafen Chen was accused (witch hunted) just several months ago.
[在 lczlcz (lcz) 的大作中提到：]
：尼玛这个是活该了， 以后这些公司谁还会雇用华人？
：＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝
：........... |
c****p
发帖数: 6474 | 6 从这篇新闻报道里看，对于设备而言，他并没有事实上将其复制、出售或者转让给第三
方。
与中国分享技术也并没有明确说明是以何种方式分享技术，而且只是承诺……
【在 l****z 的大作中提到】
: 尼玛这个是活该了， 以后这些公司谁还会雇用华人？
: ＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝
: 法庭文件没有提供这项技术的进一步细节。检察官称，从2004年开始，郗小星逐步从该
: 公司购买这个装置，并以研究为申请理由，设法从国防部获得补助金。
: 起诉书说，该公司最初拒绝把装置提供给郗小星，但最终同意给他该装置一年时间，并
: 签署协议称，郗小星只能将该装置用于测试目的，并同意不允许复制、出售、或转让给
: 任何第三方。
: 联邦当局表示，郗小星在中国博士后学生的帮助下，多次违反所签署的协议，并在4封
: 2010年和中国联系的电子邮件中，承诺帮助中国打造“世界级薄膜实验室”，与中国公
: 司及中共政府分享这项技术。
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 7 你觉得那个保密协议里面只会说不准转让那个装置,但没有说可不可以转让制造那个装
置或者和那个装置相关的技术?
common sense, 童鞋, common sense.
【在 c****p 的大作中提到】
: 从这篇新闻报道里看，对于设备而言，他并没有事实上将其复制、出售或者转让给第三
: 方。
: 与中国分享技术也并没有明确说明是以何种方式分享技术，而且只是承诺……
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 8 瓜田不纳履，李下不正冠, 这个道理不难理解吧.
这种事情,不光要实际情况没有,还要appears not.
【在 S**C 的大作中提到】
: Innocent until proven guilty out of window?
: Xiafen Chen was accused (witch hunted) just several months ago.
: [在 lczlcz (lcz) 的大作中提到：]
: ：尼玛这个是活该了， 以后这些公司谁还会雇用华人？
: ：＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝
: ：...........
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c****p
发帖数: 6474 | 9 这个你得问这个记者。
新闻倒是说违反协议了，但是具体违反的啥也没提。
和中国的电邮沟通只说了承诺要分享技术。
看起诉书吧。
前两天张浩的案子那是明确抓到把文件拷回国内了。
【在 l****z 的大作中提到】
: 你觉得那个保密协议里面只会说不准转让那个装置,但没有说可不可以转让制造那个装
: 置或者和那个装置相关的技术?
: common sense, 童鞋, common sense.
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k***n
发帖数: 3158 | 10 it's up to the court to determine what exactly he did and whether it
violated the agreement
the common sense is to not judge without evidence
why jumped out to your conclusion now
【在 l****z 的大作中提到】
: 你觉得那个保密协议里面只会说不准转让那个装置,但没有说可不可以转让制造那个装
: 置或者和那个装置相关的技术?
: common sense, 童鞋, common sense.
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k***n
发帖数: 3158 | 11 sure. Chinese are good at self censorship anyway
just as the Chinese media does in China, lol
【在 l****z 的大作中提到】
: 瓜田不纳履，李下不正冠, 这个道理不难理解吧.
: 这种事情,不光要实际情况没有,还要appears not.
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A*****a
发帖数: 52743 | 12 because the conclusion is very politically useful.
个装
【在 k***n 的大作中提到】
: it's up to the court to determine what exactly he did and whether it
: violated the agreement
: the common sense is to not judge without evidence
: why jumped out to your conclusion now
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c****p
发帖数: 6474 | 13 FBI钓鱼执法抓被教唆的恐怖分子也要等到人家去炸目标的路上或者按下按钮之前抓。
Appears如何如何就能抓人的话那华人就不用在美国的高科技公司找工作了。
【在 l****z 的大作中提到】
: 瓜田不纳履，李下不正冠, 这个道理不难理解吧.
: 这种事情,不光要实际情况没有,还要appears not.
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S**C
发帖数: 2964 | 14 Yes witch hunt is going on, no question about it.
[在 lczlcz (lcz) 的大作中提到：]
：瓜田不纳履，李下不正冠, 这个道理不难理解吧.
：这种事情,不光要实际情况没有,还要appears not.
：........... |
l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 15 就事论事, 这个case不一定成立.
但华人偷技术回去然后被抓不是一次两次了,所以见怪不怪了.
好比不是所有老黑都是罪犯,但看到老黑犯罪都觉得很正常吧.
【在 k***n 的大作中提到】
: it's up to the court to determine what exactly he did and whether it
: violated the agreement
: the common sense is to not judge without evidence
: why jumped out to your conclusion now
|
S**C
发帖数: 2964 | 16 There are self-hating Chinese from left and right, is that news?
[在 kafen (Tiffany & Co) 的大作中提到：]
：sure. Chinese are good at self censorship anyway
：just as the Chinese media does in China, lol
：........... |
l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 17 这个和witch hunt有什么关系. 随便做那行的都要professional. 这个和是不是华人没
有关系, 不管对什么人要求都应该这样.
【在 S**C 的大作中提到】
: Yes witch hunt is going on, no question about it.
: [在 lczlcz (lcz) 的大作中提到：]
: ：瓜田不纳履，李下不正冠, 这个道理不难理解吧.
: ：这种事情,不光要实际情况没有,还要appears not.
: ：...........
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S**C
发帖数: 2964 | 18 Nothing to do with being Chinese? Yeah, whatever.
[在 lczlcz (lcz) 的大作中提到：]
：这个和witch hunt有什么关系. 随便做那行的都要professional. 这个和是不是华人
没有关系, 不管对什么人要求都应该这样.
：
：........... |
l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 19 我什么时候说过appears就能抓人了. 我说的appears是指那个教授. 他一面在拿钱搞那
个技术,同时给中国的email里面说要给对方与这个技术相关的东西. 即使两个没有关
系但这个appears有关系了. 所以先不管这个教授是不是真的偷技术,但非常非常的不
professional. 这个对在美华人的影响是很不好的.
另外谁说一定要等到恐怖分子外出行动的时候才去抓的? 应该有case对方正在家里装炸
弹就被抓的的. 找一下就可以看到了.
【在 c****p 的大作中提到】
: FBI钓鱼执法抓被教唆的恐怖分子也要等到人家去炸目标的路上或者按下按钮之前抓。
: Appears如何如何就能抓人的话那华人就不用在美国的高科技公司找工作了。
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 20 yeah, whatever.
【在 S**C 的大作中提到】
: Nothing to do with being Chinese? Yeah, whatever.
: [在 lczlcz (lcz) 的大作中提到：]
: ：这个和witch hunt有什么关系. 随便做那行的都要professional. 这个和是不是华人
: 没有关系, 不管对什么人要求都应该这样.
: ：
: ：...........
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j*****v
发帖数: 7717 | 21 民主黨當政，華裔科學家們就倒霉，比如當年的李文和
【在 t*c 的大作中提到】
: 奥巴马大开国门，每年都为非法移民追加几十亿几百亿预算，
: 还公然违反法官的判决，这种卖国贼倒是逍遥得很，经常公费打高尔夫。
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w*********o
发帖数: 3030 | 22 Maybe you want to wait until the outcome of following bill before making
comment like this:
"http://www.wsj.com/articles/senate-debate-over-nsa-has-patriot-act-in-the-balance-1432334187"
Looks like it is democrats that's against the action that lead to these kind
of arrests.
【在 j*****v 的大作中提到】
: 民主黨當政，華裔科學家們就倒霉，比如當年的李文和
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n**1
发帖数: 318 | 23 根据现有的新闻，我个人认为他是guilty了。
同时，我认为美国政府有按"innocent until proven guilty"来对待他的责任。
【在 S**C 的大作中提到】
: Innocent until proven guilty out of window?
: Xiafen Chen was accused (witch hunted) just several months ago.
: [在 lczlcz (lcz) 的大作中提到：]
: ：尼玛这个是活该了， 以后这些公司谁还会雇用华人？
: ：＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝
: ：...........
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c******u
发帖数: 739 | 24 尼玛,能找到几年前的邮件,为啥不先警告。6500引用的牛人说抓就抓了。美国人才多我
承认,但也太自宫了吧。 |
S**C
发帖数: 2964 | 25 I guess it is more than likely back in last year you will believe Xiafen
Chen was guilty because
"on various dates in May 2012, illegally accessed restricted areas of a
protected U.S. Government computer database and downloaded sensitive files
from the National Inventory of Dams. This database is maintained and
controlled by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers in conjunction with the
National Dam Safety Review Board."
"on June 11, 2013, Chen provided materially false statements to officials
from the Department of Commerce Office of Security who were assigned to
investigate her activities."
BTW, do you think the six Baltimore officers are guilty?
【在 n**1 的大作中提到】
: 根据现有的新闻，我个人认为他是guilty了。
: 同时，我认为美国政府有按"innocent until proven guilty"来对待他的责任。
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x****u
发帖数: 12955 | 26
你什么时候看见老黑认同这种说法？
所谓华人自恨，就是在这方面的区别。
【在 l****z 的大作中提到】
: 就事论事, 这个case不一定成立.
: 但华人偷技术回去然后被抓不是一次两次了,所以见怪不怪了.
: 好比不是所有老黑都是罪犯,但看到老黑犯罪都觉得很正常吧.
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j****y
发帖数: 1714 | 27 媒体 专业就是 pin stories to attract eye balls (and advertising money)
信媒体，死的很难看！
【在 n**1 的大作中提到】
: 根据现有的新闻，我个人认为他是guilty了。
: 同时，我认为美国政府有按"innocent until proven guilty"来对待他的责任。
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S**C
发帖数: 2964 | 28 Don't your know Sen. MaCarthy is his hero?
【在 j****y 的大作中提到】
: 媒体 专业就是 pin stories to attract eye balls (and advertising money)
: 信媒体，死的很难看！
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t***h
发帖数: 2924 | 29 这是陷害。 把国防部研究资金跟私人公司机密联系在一起迫害他。
因为私营公司窃密不涉及fbi, 而军方项目上面， 他做自己的课题，
不存在窃密或者剽窃的事情。 把这两个摆到一起说， 是为了让人
产生错觉， 觉得他是间谍， 让fbi有理由去迫害他。
这件事一定要看清楚， 是纯粹的国家迫害。
你看， 那个天津的教授的事情我不会评论， 因为那属于公司内部
事情， 我不知道情况， 不会乱说话。 但是这个物理教授，
100%是遭受国家迫害。 如果仅仅以那个私营公司出发控告
他泄露公司机密， 那我也不说话，但是那是frbi出面的调查，
是联邦主导的，是司法部的黑手。
我很清楚， 这些做高温超导的物理学家即使拿了国防部经费，
也不涉及任何机密内容。 美国军方长期得大规模支助基础研究，
并不是这些基础研究能够带来直接的军事应用， 而是支助基础研究
是他们运营的一部分。 更何况， 他在国内参与的只是建设上海
交大的物理系。
你可以去任何物理系打听， 任何人都可以拿军方经费研究非常基础
的没有任何应用价值的项目。 而军方机密项目一般在其他系参与。
这个案子， 如果以联邦起诉， 那肯定是100%的冤案。
跟两头拿好处完全无关。 这边上班的人， 很多也在国内开个公司搞
外包， 那算不算两边拿好处？ 要不要挨个联邦起诉一遍？
千人们两边拿好处， 无非是干个兼职， 如果他们的美国大学有意见，
只要按规定处理， 都可以。 但是干兼职被联邦起诉， 是合适的吗？
【在 l****z 的大作中提到】
: 尼玛这个是活该了， 以后这些公司谁还会雇用华人？
: ＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝
: 法庭文件没有提供这项技术的进一步细节。检察官称，从2004年开始，郗小星逐步从该
: 公司购买这个装置，并以研究为申请理由，设法从国防部获得补助金。
: 起诉书说，该公司最初拒绝把装置提供给郗小星，但最终同意给他该装置一年时间，并
: 签署协议称，郗小星只能将该装置用于测试目的，并同意不允许复制、出售、或转让给
: 任何第三方。
: 联邦当局表示，郗小星在中国博士后学生的帮助下，多次违反所签署的协议，并在4封
: 2010年和中国联系的电子邮件中，承诺帮助中国打造“世界级薄膜实验室”，与中国公
: 司及中共政府分享这项技术。
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J**********d
发帖数: 32 | 30 中共流氓土匪组织偷了几十年了，也该“教育”一下这些下三滥了，不是偷技术就是偷
配件的，没有它不偷的，真它妈的贱到极致了，应该抓到把这些杂种把眼睛抠出来，手
剁掉，一脚踢出美国，与其它共匪狗一起终身禁止入境。 |
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y***o
发帖数: 1853 | 31 轮子？你想代表美国，可惜美国人就只是觉得你是下等人。左右不是人，没有归属感。
【在 J**********d 的大作中提到】
: 中共流氓土匪组织偷了几十年了，也该“教育”一下这些下三滥了，不是偷技术就是偷
: 配件的，没有它不偷的，真它妈的贱到极致了，应该抓到把这些杂种把眼睛抠出来，手
: 剁掉，一脚踢出美国，与其它共匪狗一起终身禁止入境。
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L*****s
发帖数: 24744 | |
d***p
发帖数: 937 | 33 版主再一次暴露自己白人至上，歧视华人的真面目。版主看到华人就认为是偷技术的。
当年姜波事件，版主也是想当然地支持对姜波的指控。而且支持那个共和党议员把打击
对象针对在NASA工作的所有中国人。
【在 l****z 的大作中提到】
: 就事论事, 这个case不一定成立.
: 但华人偷技术回去然后被抓不是一次两次了,所以见怪不怪了.
: 好比不是所有老黑都是罪犯,但看到老黑犯罪都觉得很正常吧.
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w********8
发帖数: 716 | |
d***p
发帖数: 937 | 35 极右党又在颠倒黑白了。
【在 j*****v 的大作中提到】
: 民主黨當政，華裔科學家們就倒霉，比如當年的李文和
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s***n
发帖数: 1280 | 36 被抓不是一次两次，但最后能定罪的寥寥，说明什么？
【在 l****z 的大作中提到】
: 就事论事, 这个case不一定成立.
: 但华人偷技术回去然后被抓不是一次两次了,所以见怪不怪了.
: 好比不是所有老黑都是罪犯,但看到老黑犯罪都觉得很正常吧.
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S**C
发帖数: 2964 | 37 OK, mother fuckers who jumped on Prof. Xi, repent!
---------------------------------------------------------
Feds drop charges against Temple professor accused of selling sensitive
information to the Chinese
Tricia L. Nadolny, Inquirer Staff Writer
Last updated: Friday, September 11, 2015, 5:34 PM
Federal prosecutors are seeking to dismiss their case against the Temple
University professor accused of selling sensitive U.S. defense technology to
entities in China.
Xiaoxing Xi had remained a faculty member at the university but stepped down
as chair of the school's physics department since being charged in May with
four counts of wire fraud.
In a motion to dismiss filed late Friday, prosecutors said that since filing
the charges "additional information came to the attention of the government
" that warranted the case being dropped.
The document did not elaborate, and a spokeswoman with the U.S. Attorney's
Office declined to comment further.
Xi's attorney, Peter Zeidenberg, said the government decided to drop its
case after a meeting last month in which he argued that the emails the case
hinged on were "just routine academic collaborations" between Xi and Chinese
contacts.
He said Xi is not cooperating with prosecutors on any other investigations
as a condition of the case being dismissed.
"It was our contention all along that these emails were innocent and did not
reflect the transfer of any restricted information or information that was
covered by a nondisclosure agreement," Zeidenberg said. "I think the
government simply misunderstood what was being discussed in these
communications."
Xi's daughter, Joyce Xi, when reached at family's Penn Valley home, said her
father was not available.
"We're relieved that the indictment again my father has been dismissed," she
said.
A judge has yet to rule on the motion.
Xi, regarded as a leader in superconductor research, had pleaded not guilty
and posted a $100,000 bail after his May arrest. In their indictment,
prosecutors accused him of plotting to exploit technology he purchased from
a U.S. company for the benefit of Chinese entities, including its government.
Prosecutors said that in 2002, Xi worked at a U.S. company that invented a
device that revolutionized his field. A year later, he purchased the device
for one year to continue his testing. But prosecutors said he violated the
agreement to not reproduce, sell, transfer, or attempt to reverse-engineer
it.
They cited several emails Xi sent in 2010 to Chinese contacts. Xi,
authorities said, offered to build a world-class thin-film laboratory in
China.
Thin-film research allows engineers to eliminate resistance in the
conduction of electricity and has applications ranging from building smaller
circuits for smartphones to improving speed in computers. The research also
has military applications.
Temple University spokesman Ray Betzner said it was "too soon to say"
whether Xi would be reinstated as chairman of the physics department.
"We're very pleased that with this matter behind him, professor Xi can once
again turn his full attention to conducting his research," Betzner said.
[email protected]
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w*********o
发帖数: 3030 | 38 This post should be marked and forever on the top of US New Board, if this
is a board for Chinese American. |
x****o
发帖数: 29677 | 39
你这么跳出来不是一次两次了，每次一有中国学者因为泄密被抓，还没有定罪，你就跳
出来指责这些人泄密，事实上多数人不涉及泄密，能不能不这么自恨？过渡自我反省，
没有人会欣赏
【在 l****z 的大作中提到】
: yeah, whatever.
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t***h
发帖数: 2924 | 40 版主读一读我当时的发言吧，这纯粹就是一起司法部集中盯着华裔搞迫害的例子。司法
部就是先假定华人都有罪，然后去搜集证据，而美国媒体不管青红皂白就开始宣传华人
间谍，制造仇华人的舆论。
任何华人都应该认识到，这不是单个被冤枉的科学家的悲哀，而是华人整个族裔的悲哀
。醒醒吧。
不仅是教授和科学家会成为target, 任何在公司里掌握一些核心技术的华人都会成为呗
迫害的对象。
【
在 SOFC (SOFC) 的大作中提到: 】
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down |
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K*****y
发帖数: 312 | 41 这个问题问得好。
【在 s***n 的大作中提到】
: 被抓不是一次两次，但最后能定罪的寥寥，说明什么？
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K*****y
发帖数: 312 | 42 一场闹剧 美司法部撤销华裔超导专家指控
美国天普大学物理系主任、世界知名超导专家郗小星在5月遭逮捕，美司法部指控他向
中国提供美国企业的超导技术“秘密”，以换取“名利双收的职位”。但是，时隔数月
，美国司法部撤销了对他的起诉，原因是他们弄错了证据。
《纽约时报》9月11日报道，执法人员称，电路图泄露了暖手器（pocket heater）设备
的设计方案，该设备用在半导体研究之中，郗小星当时签订协议称将对这一设计方案保
密。但是，数月之后，有专家发现司法部门的证据有误：这一图纸并非是暖手器。
郗小星称，我不期望他们像我一样懂所有的东西，但是，他们怎么能不咨询教授就起诉
我？让我的名誉受损？他们不应该这样做的。这不是一个玩笑，也不是一个游戏。
费城法院的发言人梅莫格（Zane D. Memeger）并没有详细地解释为何决定撤销该案。
郗小星的律师Peter Zeidenberg称，尽管很复杂，但是，美国政府似乎根本就没有咨询
过专家就对郗小星提起指控。因此，执法人员才弄错了证据。我们明白当局就打击中国
窃密一事压力很大，但是，当局似乎还没有确定这是否是犯罪行为面前就迅速下结论了
。他们看到了郗小星给中国科学家发送邮件就认为这是最坏的结果了。但是，这些邮件
都是美国政府和大学鼓励的国际学术交流。这些技术也不是敏感材料，也并非是禁止讨
论的。
Peter Zeidenberg称，如果他们是加拿大裔美国人或者是法国裔美国人，或者是他来自
英国，这会引发美国政府关注吗？
to
down
【在 S**C 的大作中提到】
: OK, mother fuckers who jumped on Prof. Xi, repent!
: ---------------------------------------------------------
: Feds drop charges against Temple professor accused of selling sensitive
: information to the Chinese
: Tricia L. Nadolny, Inquirer Staff Writer
: Last updated: Friday, September 11, 2015, 5:34 PM
: Federal prosecutors are seeking to dismiss their case against the Temple
: University professor accused of selling sensitive U.S. defense technology to
: entities in China.
: Xiaoxing Xi had remained a faculty member at the university but stepped down
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K*****y
发帖数: 312 | 43 别看此人平时总说美国政府如何官僚臃肿，如何效率低下，如何浪费纳税人的税金，每
次一看到指控华人学者，必然跳出来猛踩华人，猛舔美国政府的屁股。
到底怎么回事，大家心里明白就得了。
【在 x****o 的大作中提到】
:
: 你这么跳出来不是一次两次了，每次一有中国学者因为泄密被抓，还没有定罪，你就跳
: 出来指责这些人泄密，事实上多数人不涉及泄密，能不能不这么自恨？过渡自我反省，
: 没有人会欣赏
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K*****y
发帖数: 312 | 44 当初买买提上那么多人为帮姜波出主意，最起码也还知道innocent until proven
guilty。 倒是美新版主一上来就把姜波当成间谍。最后这个姜波被定罪盗窃机密了吗？
【在 d***p 的大作中提到】
: 版主再一次暴露自己白人至上，歧视华人的真面目。版主看到华人就认为是偷技术的。
: 当年姜波事件，版主也是想当然地支持对姜波的指控。而且支持那个共和党议员把打击
: 对象针对在NASA工作的所有中国人。
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s******y
发帖数: 28562 | 45 本来就是闹剧，就是一个witch hunt.
【在 K*****y 的大作中提到】
: 一场闹剧 美司法部撤销华裔超导专家指控
: 美国天普大学物理系主任、世界知名超导专家郗小星在5月遭逮捕，美司法部指控他向
: 中国提供美国企业的超导技术“秘密”，以换取“名利双收的职位”。但是，时隔数月
: ，美国司法部撤销了对他的起诉，原因是他们弄错了证据。
: 《纽约时报》9月11日报道，执法人员称，电路图泄露了暖手器（pocket heater）设备
: 的设计方案，该设备用在半导体研究之中，郗小星当时签订协议称将对这一设计方案保
: 密。但是，数月之后，有专家发现司法部门的证据有误：这一图纸并非是暖手器。
: 郗小星称，我不期望他们像我一样懂所有的东西，但是，他们怎么能不咨询教授就起诉
: 我？让我的名誉受损？他们不应该这样做的。这不是一个玩笑，也不是一个游戏。
: 费城法院的发言人梅莫格（Zane D. Memeger）并没有详细地解释为何决定撤销该案。
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S***p
发帖数: 19902 | 46 那么美国实验室所有带中国公派的学生学者基本都违法了 |
w********e
发帖数: 1416 | 47 re。对华人那个恨啊，呵呵。
【在 d***p 的大作中提到】
: 版主再一次暴露自己白人至上，歧视华人的真面目。版主看到华人就认为是偷技术的。
: 当年姜波事件，版主也是想当然地支持对姜波的指控。而且支持那个共和党议员把打击
: 对象针对在NASA工作的所有中国人。
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w********e
发帖数: 1416 | 48 re。
【在 K*****y 的大作中提到】
: 一场闹剧 美司法部撤销华裔超导专家指控
: 美国天普大学物理系主任、世界知名超导专家郗小星在5月遭逮捕，美司法部指控他向
: 中国提供美国企业的超导技术“秘密”，以换取“名利双收的职位”。但是，时隔数月
: ，美国司法部撤销了对他的起诉，原因是他们弄错了证据。
: 《纽约时报》9月11日报道，执法人员称，电路图泄露了暖手器（pocket heater）设备
: 的设计方案，该设备用在半导体研究之中，郗小星当时签订协议称将对这一设计方案保
: 密。但是，数月之后，有专家发现司法部门的证据有误：这一图纸并非是暖手器。
: 郗小星称，我不期望他们像我一样懂所有的东西，但是，他们怎么能不咨询教授就起诉
: 我？让我的名誉受损？他们不应该这样做的。这不是一个玩笑，也不是一个游戏。
: 费城法院的发言人梅莫格（Zane D. Memeger）并没有详细地解释为何决定撤销该案。
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w*********o
发帖数: 3030 | 49 Honestly, when the presidential election happens, Chinese American should
come to mitbbs and read both sides' old posts when anything happened to
Chinese American in real life, see which side has been consistently dancing
on the misery of other Chinese American. |
s**p
发帖数: 2771 | 50 这么自恨的不是左逼还是啥？
【在 x****o 的大作中提到】
:
: 你这么跳出来不是一次两次了，每次一有中国学者因为泄密被抓，还没有定罪，你就跳
: 出来指责这些人泄密，事实上多数人不涉及泄密，能不能不这么自恨？过渡自我反省，
: 没有人会欣赏
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s**p
发帖数: 2771 | 51 这个lczlcz不知道皮肤漂白过了没？！
【在 K*****y 的大作中提到】
: 别看此人平时总说美国政府如何官僚臃肿，如何效率低下，如何浪费纳税人的税金，每
: 次一看到指控华人学者，必然跳出来猛踩华人，猛舔美国政府的屁股。
: 到底怎么回事，大家心里明白就得了。
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f*****e
发帖数: 5177 | 52 丫自称右派。美国右派是不是都这智商？
【在 s**p 的大作中提到】
: 这个lczlcz不知道皮肤漂白过了没？！
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D**s
发帖数: 6361 | 53 欲加之罪何患无辞
[在 Kennedy (JFK) 的大作中提到：]
：一场闹剧 美司法部撤销华裔超导专家指控
：
：........... |
k**x
发帖数: 2611 | 54 赞打自恨版主的脸。
【在 K*****y 的大作中提到】
: 一场闹剧 美司法部撤销华裔超导专家指控
: 美国天普大学物理系主任、世界知名超导专家郗小星在5月遭逮捕，美司法部指控他向
: 中国提供美国企业的超导技术“秘密”，以换取“名利双收的职位”。但是，时隔数月
: ，美国司法部撤销了对他的起诉，原因是他们弄错了证据。
: 《纽约时报》9月11日报道，执法人员称，电路图泄露了暖手器（pocket heater）设备
: 的设计方案，该设备用在半导体研究之中，郗小星当时签订协议称将对这一设计方案保
: 密。但是，数月之后，有专家发现司法部门的证据有误：这一图纸并非是暖手器。
: 郗小星称，我不期望他们像我一样懂所有的东西，但是，他们怎么能不咨询教授就起诉
: 我？让我的名誉受损？他们不应该这样做的。这不是一个玩笑，也不是一个游戏。
: 费城法院的发言人梅莫格（Zane D. Memeger）并没有详细地解释为何决定撤销该案。
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C****C
发帖数: 362 | 55 同赞。都是些什么人，是故意的还是脑子不好使呢。
【在 k**x 的大作中提到】
: 赞打自恨版主的脸。
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J*****e
发帖数: 158 | 56 pocket heater?
【在 K*****y 的大作中提到】
: 一场闹剧 美司法部撤销华裔超导专家指控
: 美国天普大学物理系主任、世界知名超导专家郗小星在5月遭逮捕，美司法部指控他向
: 中国提供美国企业的超导技术“秘密”，以换取“名利双收的职位”。但是，时隔数月
: ，美国司法部撤销了对他的起诉，原因是他们弄错了证据。
: 《纽约时报》9月11日报道，执法人员称，电路图泄露了暖手器（pocket heater）设备
: 的设计方案，该设备用在半导体研究之中，郗小星当时签订协议称将对这一设计方案保
: 密。但是，数月之后，有专家发现司法部门的证据有误：这一图纸并非是暖手器。
: 郗小星称，我不期望他们像我一样懂所有的东西，但是，他们怎么能不咨询教授就起诉
: 我？让我的名誉受损？他们不应该这样做的。这不是一个玩笑，也不是一个游戏。
: 费城法院的发言人梅莫格（Zane D. Memeger）并没有详细地解释为何决定撤销该案。
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S**C
发帖数: 2964 | 57 It is a device that creates thin films by vacuum deposition in specific ways
that work especially well for research into the superconductive material
MgB2.
【在 J*****e 的大作中提到】
: pocket heater?
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h*****w
发帖数: 8561 | 58 早就知道是这个结果,但是也要故意来整你一下恶心你.
另外这个版的版主,怎么说呢?不光是歧视加自恨,整天标榜自己是个右派,但是打击自己
同胞可真是不留余力.
【在 s******y 的大作中提到】
: 本来就是闹剧，就是一个witch hunt.
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k********k
发帖数: 835 | 59 没漂白过. 以前有人说他舔白菊舔得舌头抽筯了.
【在 s**p 的大作中提到】
: 这个lczlcz不知道皮肤漂白过了没？！
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J******n
发帖数: 183 | 60 U.S. Drops Charges That Professor Shared Technology With China
By MATT APUZZOSEPT. 11, 2015
WASHINGTON — When the Justice Department arrested the chairman of Temple
University’s physics department this spring and accused him of sharing
sensitive American-made technology with China, prosecutors had what seemed
like a damning piece of evidence: schematics of sophisticated laboratory
equipment sent by the professor, Xi Xiaoxing, to scientists in China.
The schematics, prosecutors said, revealed the design of a device known as a
pocket heater. The equipment is used in superconductor research, and Dr. Xi
had signed an agreement promising to keep its design a secret.
But months later, long after federal agents had led Dr. Xi away in handcuffs
, independent experts discovered something wrong with the evidence at the
heart of the Justice Department’s case: The blueprints were not for a
pocket heater.
Faced with sworn statements from leading scientists, including an inventor
of the pocket heater, the Justice Department on Friday afternoon dropped all
charges against Dr. Xi, an American citizen.
It was an embarrassing acknowledgment that prosecutors and F.B.I. agents did
not understand — and did not do enough to learn — the science at the
heart of the case before bringing charges that jeopardized Dr. Xi’s career
and left the impression that he was spying for China.
“I don’t expect them to understand everything I do,” Dr. Xi, 57, said in
a telephone interview. “But the fact that they don’t consult with experts
and then charge me? Put my family through all this? Damage my reputation?
They shouldn’t do this. This is not a joke. This is not a game.”
The United States faces an onslaught from outside hackers and inside
employees trying to steal government and corporate secrets. President Obama
’s strategy to combat it involves aggressive espionage investigations and
prosecutions, as well as increased cyberdefenses.
But Dr. Xi’s case, coming on the heels of a similar case that was dismissed
a few months ago in Ohio, raises questions about whether the Justice
Department, in its rush to find Chinese spies, is ensnaring innocent
American citizens of Chinese ancestry.
A spokeswoman for Zane D. Memeger, the United States attorney in
Philadelphia who brought the charges, did not elaborate on the decision to
drop the case. In court documents, the Justice Department said that “
additional information came to the attention of the government.”
The filing gives the government the right to file the charges again if it
chooses. A spokesman for John P. Carlin, the assistant attorney general who
is overseeing the crackdown on economic espionage, had no comment on whether
Justice Department officials in Washington reviewed the case.
The science involved in Dr. Xi’s case is, by any measure, complicated. It
involves the process of coating one substance with a very thin film of
another. Dr. Xi’s lawyer, Peter Zeidenberg, said that despite the
complexity, it appeared that the government never consulted with experts
before taking the case to a grand jury. As a result, prosecutors
misconstrued the evidence, he said.
Mr. Zeidenberg, a lawyer for the firm Arent Fox, represented both Dr. Xi and
Sherry Chen, a government hydrologist who was charged and later cleared in
the Ohio case. A longtime federal prosecutor, Mr. Zeidenberg said he
understood that agents felt intense pressure to crack down on Chinese
espionage, but the authorities in these cases appeared to have been too
quick to assume that their suspicions were justified.
In Dr. Xi’s case, Mr. Zeidenberg said, the authorities saw emails to
scientists in China and assumed the worst. But he said the emails
represented the kind of international academic collaboration that
governments and universities encourage. The technology discussed was not
sensitive or restricted, he said.
“If he was Canadian-American or French-American, or he was from the U.K.,
would this have ever even got on the government’s radar? I don’t think so,
” Mr. Zeidenberg said.
The Justice Department sees a pernicious threat of economic espionage from
China, and experts say the government in Beijing has an official policy
encouraging the theft of trade secrets. Prosecutors have charged Chinese
workers in the United States with stealing Boeing aircraft information,
specialty seeds and even the pigment used to whiten Oreo cookie cream.
Other researchers and academics are being closely watched. The F.B.I. is
investigating a Chinese-American mapping expert who abruptly resigned from
Ohio State University last year and disappeared while working with NASA, The
Columbus Dispatch reported this week. In May, the Justice Department
charged a Chinese professor and others with stealing acoustics equipment
from American companies.
About a dozen F.B.I. agents, some with guns drawn, stormed Dr. Xi’s home in
the Philadelphia suburbs in May, searching his house just after dawn, he
said. His two daughters and his wife watched the agents take him away in
handcuffs on fraud charges.
“Unfortunately I think this is influenced by the politics of the time,” he
said. “But I think it’s wrong. We Chinese-Americans, we contribute to the
country, to the national security, to everything.”
Temple University put him on administrative leave and took away his title as
chairman of the physics department. He was given strict rules about who at
the school he could talk to. He said that made it impossible for him to
continue working on a long-running research project that was nearing
completion.
Dr. Xi, who came to the United States in 1989 and is a naturalized citizen,
was adamant that he was innocent. But it was only when he and his lawyers
reviewed the government’s evidence that they understood what had happened.
“When I read it, I knew that they were mixing things up,” Dr. Xi said.
His lawyers contacted independent scientists and showed them the diagram
that the Justice Department said was the pocket heater. The scientists
agreed it was not.
In a sworn affidavit, one engineer, Ward S. Ruby, said he was uniquely
qualified to identify a pocket heater. “I am very familiar with this device
, as I was one of the co-inventors,” he said.
Last month, Mr. Zeidenberg delivered a presentation for prosecutors and
explained the science. He gave them sworn statements from the experts and
implored the Justice Department to consult with a physicist before taking
the case any further. Late Friday afternoon, the Justice Department dropped
the case “in the interests of justice.”
“We wish they had come to us with any concerns they had about Professor Xi
prior to indicting him, but at least they did listen,” Mr. Zeidenberg said.
Dr. Xi choked back tears as he described an ordeal that was agonizing for
his family. “I barely came out of this nightmare,” he said. |
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J******n
发帖数: 183 | 61 纽约时报推荐了12个比较中肯的。也一并转贴在此。
TheraP Midwest 23 hours ago
Act first. Think later. This seems to be the strategy of too many law
enforcement situations in our country. And once more, we have a minority
person wrongly blamed, wrongly treated.
Like the biracial tennis player mistreated and falsely arrested just this
week, here we have a professor, whose life has been upended and possibly a
professorial career ruined or cut short.
We need Justice Reform at every level in this country.
Bub NY 22 hours ago
I read articles like this and see the glass as half full - this guy was
exonerated and the government dropped the case. He wasn't locked away in an
eternity prison for political dissidents or enemies of the state, as would
certainly be the case in China and a variety of other countries. I wish Xi
didn't have to go through this in the first place of course, and he has
every right to be angry, but at least we live in a country where there are
mechanisms (or perhaps morals) in place that can have the government
actually admit it was totally wrong and set someone free.
Laura California 22 hours ago
I hope the scientific community really defends Dr. Xi and demands
compensation for him, for his students, for the research he was forced to
abandon, and for Temple U. The victims of this "embarrassment" include
students and colleagues; reputation is a hard thing to get back.
Aron Yoffe Los Angeles, CA 21 hours ago
I'd really like to hear more details on what went on inside the FBI. What
puzzles me is this: The FBI has a large Science and Technology Branch (4500
employees). And any well-trained scientist, when asked to provide a definite
assessment of something outside his or her expertise, knows enough to say:
"This is out of my expertise, let me track down an outside expert and have
that person review this."
Given this, several possibilities present themselves: (A) the FBI agents
didn't run this by their scientific staff; (B) the agents ran it by the
scientists, the scientists said they needed to consult outside experts, and
the agents ignored them; (C) the agents ran it by the scientists who, in
spite of a lack of expertise, gave a determination (which would mean that
the individual scientific staff with whom they consulted are not properly
trained). Another possibility is that the FBI scientists consulted people
they they thought were experts but in fact were not.
Pete Illinois 16 hours ago
I think Zane D. Memeger and his office should apologize profusely and
publicly for this horrible error. Instead they only released a cowardly
statement saying "additional information came to the attention of the
government.”
The article stated that last month the inventing engineer told the D.A. they
had made a mistake. The article doesn't say when last month but at a
minimum it took the incompetent (and too arrogant to admit an error) D.A.
office 2+ weeks to drop charges. I hope the poor guy wasn't sitting in jail
during this time.
James Cameron Seattle 10 hours ago
“We wish they had come to us with any concerns they had about Professor Xi
prior to indicting him, but at least they did listen,” Mr. Zeidenberg.
------
That's an understatement. The government was inept in their handling of this
case. Mr. Xiaoxing's life was turned upside-down because of this, and the
most they have to say is they would drop the charges. As though they were
doing him a favor.
What they should do is provide some form of restitution that includes a
public apology AND undertake a thorough investigation of what went wrong.
And that should include some consequences for the people involved.
Everyman New York, New York 10 hours ago
I'm waiting for the pre-dawn raid with guns drawn to arrest a bankster CEO.
johnny ny 9 hours ago
The "white collar" equivalent of tackling him on the street, smashing his
head into the pavement, hand cuffing him and then finding out it was a case
of mistaken.... everything!
flyfysher Longmont, CO 9 hours ago
Seems there is a uniformly negative opinion of Mr. Memeger and his office
and the investigators. Calls for an apology, discipline including
termination for incompetency and almost ruining this man's life and a huge
judgment with attorneys fees against the government. But you know when I'll
be impressed? It'll be when some member of Congress takes up the cause to
make sure this type of abuse never, ever happens again. It'd be unwise to
try and hold your breath until that happens. Sad that our government
officials have so little regard for upholding our Constitution and the
protections it supposedly affords us.
joe Getzville, NY 9 hours ago
Having worked in the defense industry as an engineer, I am well aware of the
stress on prevention of the export of sensitive technology. We received
yearly briefings on ITAR (International Traffic in Arms Regulations) and the
EAR (Export Administration Regulations). It's taken quite seriously. Make
no mistake, the fact is that industrial espionage by foreign countries,
particularly China, is quite prevalent. We have lost significant amounts of
technology to foreign countries, either through hacking or old fashioned
spying.
That being said we have a constitution that protects the rights of American
citizens. What I see here is a lack of due diligence by either the FBI
prosecutors and/or by their technical staff. I also see the overstepping use
of force in the arrest, which is also becoming a problem. The actions of
the FBI could have been the result of over-zealous investigators or maybe
one who is interested in building his or her career. I also see the
equivalent of racial profiling in action.
If we had a functional Congress this could be remedied with adequate
safeguards. Government response needs to based on a realistic threat level.
The use of SWAT-type teams in a case like this needs to be limited. There
needs to be assurance that the prosecutors have the science right. There
needs to be checks on overzealous investigators. But, as I said with a
disfunctional Congress, I don't see any remedies in the near future.
Gloria NYC 8 hours ago
Hopefully these egregious mistakes lead to changes within DOJ and FBI to
prevent this from happening again. But the threat of Chinese espionage is
quite real. Analogies to the McCarthy era are totally off base. China is
engaged in a systematic and widespread theft of information from the U.S.
Our law enforcement agencies must be proactive about this.
HL Boston 7 hours ago
As a first generation Chinese American and an aspiring academic, this case
really hit home for me. It's horrifying that you can work hard your entire
life, and have everything unfairly taken away from you - and your only
recourse is to prove your innocence while already guilty in the eyes of the
public and even your own department. Academic reputation is a tenuous thing,
and unfortunately it's affected not only him but all his current and
previous students and colleagues. I read on another article that the Temple
spokesman stated it was too soon to say whether he would be reinstated as
chairman. I can't even fathom why they would have to deliberate it. I hope
finds a way to move forward and find the justice that he is entitled. |
w*********8
发帖数: 307 | 62 笑话，泄密一种加热器。是不是厕所里用的那一种? |
S**C
发帖数: 2964 | 63 It is a device that creates thin films by vacuum deposition in specific ways
that work especially well for research into the superconductive material
MgB2.
【在 w*********8 的大作中提到】
: 笑话，泄密一种加热器。是不是厕所里用的那一种?
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f***n
发帖数: 4682 | 64 想想当年姜波，也是同一批人跳出来大骂。
不知道脸皮有多厚，被打脸这么多次，也不知道疼。
【在 x****o 的大作中提到】
:
: 你这么跳出来不是一次两次了，每次一有中国学者因为泄密被抓，还没有定罪，你就跳
: 出来指责这些人泄密，事实上多数人不涉及泄密，能不能不这么自恨？过渡自我反省，
: 没有人会欣赏
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 65 切, 华人偷美国情报然后被抓的还少嘛? 例子无数.
【在 f***n 的大作中提到】
: 想想当年姜波，也是同一批人跳出来大骂。
: 不知道脸皮有多厚，被打脸这么多次，也不知道疼。
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S**C
发帖数: 2964 | 66 List them.
【在 l****z 的大作中提到】
: 切, 华人偷美国情报然后被抓的还少嘛? 例子无数.
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f***n
发帖数: 4682 | 67 中国人中的sb更多，我能因为你是中国人说你是sb吗?
以后能不能等事实清楚之后再开口？ 不知道你们是心理问题还是智商问题
【在 l****z 的大作中提到】
: 切, 华人偷美国情报然后被抓的还少嘛? 例子无数.
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k********k
发帖数: 835 | 68 继续舔，appears还有呢.
【在 l****z 的大作中提到】
: 切, 华人偷美国情报然后被抓的还少嘛? 例子无数.
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 69 自己不会google?
随便讲一个好了: 麦大智
【在 S**C 的大作中提到】
: List them.
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S**C
发帖数: 2964 | 70 When you see the charges are "wire fraud", rather some concrete allegations,
you know off the bat it is witch hunt.
【在 f***n 的大作中提到】
: 想想当年姜波，也是同一批人跳出来大骂。
: 不知道脸皮有多厚，被打脸这么多次，也不知道疼。
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f*****e
发帖数: 5177 | 71 你丫别在这show智商了。
搞得大家都知道右棍智商低了。
【在 l****z 的大作中提到】
: 切, 华人偷美国情报然后被抓的还少嘛? 例子无数.
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S**C
发帖数: 2964 | 72 You said numerous which in common language translates to at least a couple
dozens. You have one name, what about the others?
【在 l****z 的大作中提到】
: 自己不会google?
: 随便讲一个好了: 麦大智
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 73 参看我的第一句,自己不会google?
【在 S**C 的大作中提到】
: You said numerous which in common language translates to at least a couple
: dozens. You have one name, what about the others?
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D*****y
发帖数: 196 | 74 一帮没担当的蠢货。要道歉的时候就都尿遁了。华人的名声也是被你们败坏的 |
S**C
发帖数: 2964 | 75 Google does not produce "例子无数" Chinese involved in espionage. Rather, it
gives a few recent witch hunt examples, with Prof. Xi that you jumped on
off the bat as the latest one.
【在 l****z 的大作中提到】
: 参看我的第一句,自己不会google?
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 76 哈哈, 你自己不会用google还来怪我? 要是我找出10个case来你是不是自杀你的id?
it
【在 S**C 的大作中提到】
: Google does not produce "例子无数" Chinese involved in espionage. Rather, it
: gives a few recent witch hunt examples, with Prof. Xi that you jumped on
: off the bat as the latest one.
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S**C
发帖数: 2964 | 77 I am waiting for 例子无数.
【在 l****z 的大作中提到】
: 哈哈, 你自己不会用google还来怪我? 要是我找出10个case来你是不是自杀你的id?
:
: it
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k***n
发帖数: 3158 | 78 first, you said 无数
second, no matter how many cases you can find, they can not be used for
racial profiling against Chinese researchers in the US
of course, you have your freedom to use them for your 自恨
【在 l****z 的大作中提到】
: 哈哈, 你自己不会用google还来怪我? 要是我找出10个case来你是不是自杀你的id?
:
: it
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 79 哈哈 原来kafen和SOFC是互为马甲啊.
问你我找10个case出来你的ID是不是要自杀? 结果你就尿了. 真没种. |
k***n
发帖数: 3158 | 80 I was feeling a bit guilty for slapping your face too hard tonight
guess what
you just handed us your ass, lol
【在 l****z 的大作中提到】
: 哈哈 原来kafen和SOFC是互为马甲啊.
: 问你我找10个case出来你的ID是不是要自杀? 结果你就尿了. 真没种.
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S**C
发帖数: 2964 | 81
I can only assume such allegation has to come from a challenged person.
10 is less than a dozen, that's all I have to say.
To prove you are not indeed self-hating, you probably at least need to
demonstrate the percentage of Chinese convicted in economic espionage
activity in US is statistically significant compare with controlled group.
【在 l****z 的大作中提到】
: 哈哈 原来kafen和SOFC是互为马甲啊.
: 问你我找10个case出来你的ID是不是要自杀? 结果你就尿了. 真没种.
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f***n
发帖数: 4682 | 82 能出来道歉那是有担当的人才能做的。 普通人这时候也只能尿遁。
不能理解的是被打脸了还能出来喋喋不休的现眼。这得是一个多么强大的不知羞耻的心
。
【在 D*****y 的大作中提到】
: 一帮没担当的蠢货。要道歉的时候就都尿遁了。华人的名声也是被你们败坏的
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c********g
发帖数: 15629 | 83 这次本版谁被打脸了呢？
【在 l****z 的大作中提到】
: 切, 华人偷美国情报然后被抓的还少嘛? 例子无数.
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c********g
发帖数: 15629 | 84 谁这么无耻呢？
【在 f***n 的大作中提到】
: 能出来道歉那是有担当的人才能做的。 普通人这时候也只能尿遁。
: 不能理解的是被打脸了还能出来喋喋不休的现眼。这得是一个多么强大的不知羞耻的心
: 。
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x****o
发帖数: 29677 | 85
别人如何和本案有关系么，你对华人如此自恨，跟佐逼一个样
【在 l****z 的大作中提到】
: 切, 华人偷美国情报然后被抓的还少嘛? 例子无数.
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h********t
发帖数: 555 | 86 你的意思是华人偷技术也很普遍现象？在美国人眼里你也是华人，即使你外F了以色列
人，当心哪天把你也捉了。美国政客出于政治目的对华人栽赃陷害的案子多了，李文和
案就是一个很好的例子。
【在 l****z 的大作中提到】
: 就事论事, 这个case不一定成立.
: 但华人偷技术回去然后被抓不是一次两次了,所以见怪不怪了.
: 好比不是所有老黑都是罪犯,但看到老黑犯罪都觉得很正常吧.
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h********t
发帖数: 555 | 87 骂得好！
【在 x****o 的大作中提到】
:
: 别人如何和本案有关系么，你对华人如此自恨，跟佐逼一个样
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w*********o
发帖数: 3030 | 88 No point of arguing, just make sure related posts stay on the top of the
page until the righteous ones have to delete their old posts or re-mask
themselves. |
s***o
发帖数: 272 | 89 mail fraud?
come on Feb, you can do better than that
【在 h******n 的大作中提到】
: 【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
: 发信人: hutuxian (拳打南刀北猫脚踢东奇西虎), 信区: Military
: 标 题: 世界级超导专家郗小星面临80年监禁和100万美元罚款
: 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri May 22 15:16:55 2015, 美东)
: 美国联邦检察官指控天普大学物理系主任、华裔教授郗小星向中国提供美国公司开发的
: 技术，试图获利。
: 今年47岁的郗小星教授出生在大陆，1987年在北京大学获得物理博士学位，现为美国公
: 民，他在超导技术领域是世界级专家。
: 美国地区法院周四（5月21日）以“电信欺诈”的四项罪名起诉他。美国的检控官说，
: 当时他还没有找到代理律师。
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h********t
发帖数: 555 | 90 在迫害华人方面，左派也是急先锋，李文和案就是民主党理查德森主导的 http://www.wenholee.org/
1. Richardson has yet to acknowledge that he violated Dr. Wen Ho Lee’s due
process rights. According to University of California (UC) employment
regulations, all Los Alamos National Laboratory (LANL) employees must first
receive written notice of any intention to terminate and be given 8 calendar
days to respond. In publicly announcing that Dr. Wen Ho Lee had been fired
in the New York Times1, Richardson not only violated UC regulations but
denied Dr. Lee’s right to due process.
2. Richardson fails to acknowledge his role in exacerbating suspicion
towards Chinese-Americans as disloyal citizens of the U.S. The firing of Dr.
Lee occurred at the heels of a 5-month Congressional committee
investigation seeking to determine whether China stole American military
secrets through espionage. Two days after a March 6, 1999 New York Times
article detailing possible theft of nuclear warhead information at the
national weapons labs2, Richardson publicly terminated Dr. Lee and allowed
the scientist’s name to be linked to the ongoing espionage investigation at
the Los Alamos National Laboratory. In doing so, Richardson helped cast
continuing doubt on the loyalty and reputation of tens of thousands of
Chinese and Asian American scientists and engineers working in public and
private research facilities across the nation3.
3. Richardson has not acknowledged his culpability in participating in the
decision to indict Dr. Wen Ho Lee. The New York Times reported that a
critical meeting, attended by Energy Secretary Richardson, FBI Director
Louis Freeh, Attorney General Janet Reno, and National Security Advisor
Sandy Berger, occurred to determine the indictment of Dr. Lee4. In allowing
political considerations to factor into the decision to indict, the true
merits of prosecuting this case appear to have been lost. In many other
reported cases of security violations, administrative action rather than
prosecution was pursued.5
4. Richardson has not acknowledged that his actions at the time reinforced
the notion that the ethnic profiling of Asian Americans is an acceptable
practice. Robert Vrooman, the former head of Los Alamos National Laboratory
counterintelligence, gave a sworn declaration that stated “racial profiling
was a crucial component in the FBI's identifying Dr. Lee as a suspect."6 In
addition, Charles Washington, former Acting Director of Counterintelligence
at the U.S. Department of Energy, filed an affidavit stating that “if Dr.
Lee had not been initially targeted based on his race (Taiwanese-Chinese),
with the resulting wide press disclosures that he had purportedly [words
deleted] and the politicizing of the situation, he may very well have been
treated administratively like others who had allegedly mishandled classified
information.”7
5. Despite the presiding judge’s rebuke, Richardson continues to stand by
his decisions. We find Richardson’s defense of his actions in protecting
the nation’s security extremely disingenuous8, especially in the context of
the unjust treatment of Dr. Lee, who had to endure 278 days of pre-trial
detention in solitary confinement, and the presiding judge’s stern rebuke
of the Energy Department. In his statement releasing Dr. Lee from jail,
Judge James A. Parker aimed directly at those responsible: “It is only the
top decision makers in the Executive Branch, especially the Department of
Justice and the Department of Energy…who have caused embarrassment by the
way this case began and was handled….they did not embarrass me alone. They
have embarrassed our entire nation and each of us who is a citizen of it.”
Incredibly to date, Bill Richardson has yet to concede any wrongdoing and
apologize to Wen Ho Lee and Chinese Americans whose rights, loyalty, and
integrity were seriously damaged by his decisions and actions as Energy
Secretary. He should admit his rush to judgment in attempting to identify Dr
. Lee as the possible espionage suspect, as well as provocatively
heightening suspicions about the loyalty of Chinese-Americans during a
period of intense congressional and media scrutiny. Until Richardson issues
an apology about his role in this case, we believe his confirmation to
Cabinet Secretary should be opposed by all Americans who believe that
government officials should be persons of excellent character, competence,
and sound judgment beyond reproach.
【在 w*********o 的大作中提到】
: No point of arguing, just make sure related posts stay on the top of the
: page until the righteous ones have to delete their old posts or re-mask
: themselves.
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w*********o
发帖数: 3030 | 91 I care less about the party affiliation of the American government employees
than the behavior of the IDs who are proud to be Chinese or at least
Chinese American on this website (supposedly).
due
first
calendar
fired
Dr.
【在 h********t 的大作中提到】
: 在迫害华人方面，左派也是急先锋，李文和案就是民主党理查德森主导的 http://www.wenholee.org/
: 1. Richardson has yet to acknowledge that he violated Dr. Wen Ho Lee’s due
: process rights. According to University of California (UC) employment
: regulations, all Los Alamos National Laboratory (LANL) employees must first
: receive written notice of any intention to terminate and be given 8 calendar
: days to respond. In publicly announcing that Dr. Wen Ho Lee had been fired
: in the New York Times1, Richardson not only violated UC regulations but
: denied Dr. Lee’s right to due process.
: 2. Richardson fails to acknowledge his role in exacerbating suspicion
: towards Chinese-Americans as disloyal citizens of the U.S. The firing of Dr.
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l*********s
发帖数: 5409 | 92 re。中国就是这是人渣太多了才搞不过阿三。
【在 f***n 的大作中提到】
: 能出来道歉那是有担当的人才能做的。 普通人这时候也只能尿遁。
: 不能理解的是被打脸了还能出来喋喋不休的现眼。这得是一个多么强大的不知羞耻的心
: 。
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H***l
发帖数: 1936 | 93 +1
这个thread让人看清了，当在美国的华人学生学者被witch hunt,被诬陷的时候，这个
版上包括版主在内的某些人却落井下石，一幅何等丑陋的嘴脸。
【在 w*********o 的大作中提到】
: No point of arguing, just make sure related posts stay on the top of the
: page until the righteous ones have to delete their old posts or re-mask
: themselves.
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c*****z
发帖数: 1211 | 94 所以也别怪美国人喜欢老黑老墨，这两种人想里通外国也没有头绪。哪怕是三哥，美国
政府也知道他们的母国扶不上墙。可是老中就不一样了，弄个东西回国，分分钟超过美
国。 |
C****C
发帖数: 362 | 95 一点不奇怪，对丑陋太宽容了。要有正直诚实成熟负责的个体成员作基础，清理掉丑陋
，才谈得上互信团结互助，才有对大家都好的群体环境。
左逼盛行是因为右逼猖獗，互为因果。
【在 H***l 的大作中提到】
: +1
: 这个thread让人看清了，当在美国的华人学生学者被witch hunt,被诬陷的时候，这个
: 版上包括版主在内的某些人却落井下石，一幅何等丑陋的嘴脸。
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s***n
发帖数: 1280 | 96 绝大多数的情况是抓了之后无罪释放或判个不相关的轻罪吧？抓的时候沸沸扬扬，举国
皆知，放的时候一笔带过，悄无声息。
真正做实了的屈指可数。
【在 l****z 的大作中提到】
: 切, 华人偷美国情报然后被抓的还少嘛? 例子无数.
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m**********g
发帖数: 153 | 97 copy 一下： 被打脸了还能出来喋喋不休的现眼， 你这种人怎么还能当版主？
【在 l****z 的大作中提到】
: 哈哈, 你自己不会用google还来怪我? 要是我找出10个case来你是不是自杀你的id?
:
: it
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a****l
发帖数: 8211 | 98 不得不说,李文和怎么可能做中共的间谍呢?难道美国人也不想想,台湾人和中共是什么
关系?就算中共把美国的老白都招募了,李文和也还是招募不了.
【在 h********t 的大作中提到】
: 你的意思是华人偷技术也很普遍现象？在美国人眼里你也是华人，即使你外F了以色列
: 人，当心哪天把你也捉了。美国政客出于政治目的对华人栽赃陷害的案子多了，李文和
: 案就是一个很好的例子。
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f*****e
发帖数: 5177 | 99 你以为fbi探员的中国历史能好到分得清楚大陆和台湾的关系？
看着像中国人就行了。
【在 a****l 的大作中提到】
: 不得不说,李文和怎么可能做中共的间谍呢?难道美国人也不想想,台湾人和中共是什么
: 关系?就算中共把美国的老白都招募了,李文和也还是招募不了.
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K*****y
发帖数: 312 | 100 郗小星的律师Peter Zeidenberg：如果他们是加拿大裔美国人或者是法国裔美国人，或
者是他来自
英国，这会引发美国政府关注吗？
【在 l****z 的大作中提到】
: 这个和witch hunt有什么关系. 随便做那行的都要professional. 这个和是不是华人没
: 有关系, 不管对什么人要求都应该这样.
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f*********u
发帖数: 455 | 101 确实是，一典型自恨。
【在 d***p 的大作中提到】
: 版主再一次暴露自己白人至上，歧视华人的真面目。版主看到华人就认为是偷技术的。
: 当年姜波事件，版主也是想当然地支持对姜波的指控。而且支持那个共和党议员把打击
: 对象针对在NASA工作的所有中国人。
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f*********u
发帖数: 455 | 102 没错，以前对此人还颇有好感，现在发现就一垃圾，估计不是轮子就是民运
【在 K*****y 的大作中提到】
: 别看此人平时总说美国政府如何官僚臃肿，如何效率低下，如何浪费纳税人的税金，每
: 次一看到指控华人学者，必然跳出来猛踩华人，猛舔美国政府的屁股。
: 到底怎么回事，大家心里明白就得了。
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f*********u
发帖数: 455 | 103 你还是把自己漂白了，不要在我们这低等华人的论坛混了
【在 l****z 的大作中提到】
: 切, 华人偷美国情报然后被抓的还少嘛? 例子无数.
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b*******m
发帖数: 5492 | 104 做人最重要的是和自己的逻辑保持一致，别老是前后矛盾。
照你的逻辑
白人serial killer还少吗？例子无数，所以看到白人都是杀手
黑人有一些好人，例子也不少，所以黑人都是好人，你看到以后别关车窗
你天天轰liberal也就罢了，很多人乐见；甚至你猛舔白人踩黑人也没太大关系，多数
人最多撇撇嘴；你要是见到华人被莫须有的罪名陷害然后还蹦出来落井下石，就别怪在
华人圈子名声臭了，好自为之吧。
【在 l****z 的大作中提到】
: 切, 华人偷美国情报然后被抓的还少嘛? 例子无数.
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w*********o
发帖数: 3030 | 105 Let's see how this ends. Hopefully it would last to next presidential
election. |
b**t
发帖数: 52 | 106 发信人: Kennedy (JFK), 信区: USANews
标 题: Re: 有人开始为911的恐怖分子说话了
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Sep 13 23:33:17 2015, 美东)
老实说, 我一开始也不明白网友shamelesslcz为什么会一口认定lczlcz是女的， 还说
铁证如山。因为从面试过程上只能看出lczlcz离过婚，申请的是靠美国配偶的婚姻绿卡。
后来看到她下面列的checklist觉得是那么回事。
她交了两份G325A， 一份是petitioner的, 一份是husband的。petitioner应该是
lczlcz自己，也就是说lczlcz是wife。假如lczlcz是男的，就成了husband-husband的
同性婚姻。如果真是同婚，再联系到此人一贯言行，那才是让人笑掉大牙。
网上发文, 是男是女并不重要。关键是此人在姜波事件猛踩华人，猛舔美国政府，舔错
了也不反省，到了郗小星事件照舔美国政府， 照踩华人不误，结果又舔错了。被打脸
后还振振有词，说什么华人偷美国情报被抓的例子无数， 引发众怒，身为华人却这么
自恨，这才被挖坟。
联系到她的过去，让人会有疑问她这么自恨，这么舔老美，是不是和她离婚再嫁美国老
公的经历有关系。
【在 f*********u 的大作中提到】
: 你还是把自己漂白了，不要在我们这低等华人的论坛混了
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w*********o
发帖数: 3030 | 107 The righteous ones seem to be running away from this post. |
w*********o
发帖数: 3030 | 108 Let see how long it will take for the righteous ones to bury this post. |
w*********o
发帖数: 3030 | 109 The performance of the righteous ones are really disappointing. |
c********g
发帖数: 15629 | 110 up
【在 w*********o 的大作中提到】
: The performance of the righteous ones are really disappointing.
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r*****n
发帖数: 1285 | 111 请大家去签名：https://petitions.whitehouse.gov//petition/your-policy-
aggressively-investigate-and-prosecute-stealing-secrets-has-been-abused-doj |
w*********o
发帖数: 3030 | 112 I will make sure this post on the front page of US news board until the
election day :) |
w*********o
发帖数: 3030 | |
w*********o
发帖数: 3030 | 114 "President Xi Jinping of China, speaking later in the day, reiterated what
he called the Chinese priority of peace and stability for its economic
development. He also demonstrated China’s enormous financial influence by
announcing a $1 billion fund for the United Nations, and said his country
would create a permanent standby peacekeeping contingent of 8,000 police and
troops in case it is needed by the world body."
I wonder what would the righteous ones say about this. |
l******t
发帖数: 12659 | 115 偷技术，每个国家都在干
米国也一样
你就别逗了
【在 l****z 的大作中提到】
: 就事论事, 这个case不一定成立.
: 但华人偷技术回去然后被抓不是一次两次了,所以见怪不怪了.
: 好比不是所有老黑都是罪犯,但看到老黑犯罪都觉得很正常吧.
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w*********o
发帖数: 3030 | 116 Today's topic on the military board is about self-hate. Maybe US news board
also need a define what's self-hate. |
w*********o
发帖数: 3030 | 117 It's really funny to watch the performance from the righteous ones, they
hate illegal Chinese immigrant, legal Chinese immigrant and themselves.
The only conclusion I can draw is that they really hate all Chinese. |
w*********o
发帖数: 3030 | 118 The righteous ones really need update their spinning skill in this time and
age. |
w*********o
发帖数: 3030 | 119 17,670 signatures for the petition so far. Is this news worthy? |
t*******e
发帖数: 1633 | 120 你们左逼拜登说中国从来没发明过任何东西，所有技术都是偷的。 左逼稀拉痢说它一
直在'hunt for chinese', 这种仇视中国人，仇视中国科学家的白色恐怖由左逼高层开
始的
【在 w*********o 的大作中提到】
: It's really funny to watch the performance from the righteous ones, they
: hate illegal Chinese immigrant, legal Chinese immigrant and themselves.
: The only conclusion I can draw is that they really hate all Chinese.
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w*********o
发帖数: 3030 | 121 I care much less about what 拜登 or 稀拉痢, or whoever the next Republican
candidates says than what has been happening to Chinese American Scientists
right now.
Wish you could say the same. But based on the behavior of the righteous ones
on this website, that's a tall order.
【在 t*******e 的大作中提到】
: 你们左逼拜登说中国从来没发明过任何东西，所有技术都是偷的。 左逼稀拉痢说它一
: 直在'hunt for chinese', 这种仇视中国人，仇视中国科学家的白色恐怖由左逼高层开
: 始的
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t*******e
发帖数: 1633 | 122 仇视中国科学家的风气就是从你们左逼拜登和稀拉痢开始的，当然就算民主党要再重搞
一次排华法案您们左逼肯定也坚决支持
Scientists
ones
【在 w*********o 的大作中提到】
: I care much less about what 拜登 or 稀拉痢, or whoever the next Republican
: candidates says than what has been happening to Chinese American Scientists
: right now.
: Wish you could say the same. But based on the behavior of the righteous ones
: on this website, that's a tall order.
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w*********o
发帖数: 3030 | 123 Really? You might want to show evidence that your righteous candidates
actually give a dame about Chinese American scientist first before you
stated that as a truth.
And by the way, if your Chinese is not good enough, we are not talking about
中国科学家 here.
【在 t*******e 的大作中提到】
: 仇视中国科学家的风气就是从你们左逼拜登和稀拉痢开始的，当然就算民主党要再重搞
: 一次排华法案您们左逼肯定也坚决支持
:
: Scientists
: ones
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t*******e
发帖数: 1633 | 124 你们左逼仇视中国科学家，仇视中国人的证据已经再明显不过，拜登和稀拉痢都是你们
左逼的高层，一个说中国人从来没发明过任何东西，所有技术都是偷的，一个说hunt
for chinese. 当然左逼都视而不见
about
【在 w*********o 的大作中提到】
: Really? You might want to show evidence that your righteous candidates
: actually give a dame about Chinese American scientist first before you
: stated that as a truth.
: And by the way, if your Chinese is not good enough, we are not talking about
: 中国科学家 here.
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