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标 题: 尼罗河朱令案系列之10，诊断骗局之独处藏贼
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Dec 6 10:12:21 2014, 美东)
在《诊断骗局之鱼目混珠》一文中，尼罗河揭示贝志城在中央电视台文献记录片中展示
的“远程诊断”不过是他自己从教科书上摘录的内容。人们不禁要问，既然贝志城声称
手里有上千份电邮回复，其中30%作出了铊中毒的正确诊断。一个绝对数字是48份邮件
作出了铊中毒的正确诊断。拿出一份邮件来给大家见识一下这个“正确诊断”应该是没
有问题的。贝志城之所以不能出示“正确诊断”并不是因为他手里没有这样的东西，而
是他遇到一道绕不过去的坎：时间限制性。注意下面这段对话（中央电视台文献记录片
《朱令的12年》）：
贝志城：十号发了那是个周一，周三我就给朱令他爸爸打电话说，我看到提问里还有说
是铊中毒。
贝志城：很多医生很激烈地发表意见，说一定要作这个化验，因为她的症状太像铊中毒
了。
朱令父亲：贝志城给我打了个电话，说有人觉得是不是就是铊中毒。
朱令母亲：他（贝志城）说，阿姨你是怎么了，这么多人都说是铊中毒，你为什么就不
去化验。
一个无法改变的事实是，贝志城在48小时之内（1995年4月10日到12日）就锁定了铊中
毒诊断。而他手里根本就没有在48小时之内回复的“正确诊断”。这就是为什么他不敢
当众展示“正确诊断”的关键。
在The First Large-Scale International Telemedicine Trial to China: ZHU Ling
’s Case 网页上列出了84名专业人员作出了正确的诊断。其中，在4月12日之前作出正
确诊断的人名单如下 （原始文件拷贝见附件1）：
1. Steve Cunnion, MD, PhD, MPH, the Uniformed Services University of Health
Sciences
2. Frank Bia, MD, MPH, Professor of Medicine, Yale University
3. Dr. Neil Kay
4. John M. Friedberg, M.D., Neurologist, Berkeley, CA 94705
via Robert A. Fink, M. D., F.A.C.S., Neurological Surgery
5. Dr. Martin Wolfe, Tropical Medicine Consultant.
via John Aldis, M.D, MPH, FACS, U.S. State of Department
6. Dr. Aldis, M.D., AAFP, MPH & Tropical Medicine, U.S. State Department
7. Prof. Leslie H Bernstein
via Carole Shmurak
8. Jacquie Heller
根据贝志城们的记载，美国加州神经外科医生Robert A. Fink作出正确诊断的时间是4
月11日。尼罗河查到了一篇Robert A. Fink医生本人撰写的文章《The Tao of the
Internet》（全文拷贝见附件2）。从文章中可以清楚地看到，美国太平洋夏令时间4月
11日也就是北京时间4月12日，他才在他的网络邮箱中看到从北京大学发出的求救信。
美国时间4月12日，也就是北京时间4月13日，Fink 医生还在与协和医院联系获取朱令
的病情进展和相关检查信息。
2013年，尼罗河找到了上述八位医生中的三位医生，通过电邮和电话取得了联系。只有
Cunnion医师明确作出了铊中毒的诊断，他曾经在一家化学试剂公司工作，经历过铊中
毒所以他一看到朱令的病情第一个想到的就是铊中毒。但是Cunnion医生没有保存当年
的电子邮件也不能回忆回复电邮的时间。尼罗河直接联系的其他两位医师有一位明确表
示自己没有考虑到铊中毒。另一位在同行的提示下考虑到铊中毒，但是并没有明确铊中
毒诊断，而是作为多个鉴别诊断之一提供参考。这位医生在电邮中回忆当时的情况写道
：“提供诊断意见的邮件如潮水一般涌来，我们几乎被这些冗长的邮件淹没。当时提出
了很多很多可能的诊断，而且相当大的一部分是愚蠢的想法。根本不要指望看到铊中毒
从各种其他鉴别诊断的建议中浮出水面。 ”
这就是当时远程诊断的真相。也反映了一个对一个真实存在的临床疑难病例的诊断过程
。除非有诊治铊中毒病人的直接经历，临床医生必须通过对病人临床表现（包括症状体
征和实验室检查）的动态观察，经过一个排除错误的过程才能最终作出正确诊断。
当年参与朱令诊断专家提供的情况与“我是你的真相”在xys发表文章非常接近。这位
作者对1995年5月11日到19日9天的104封电邮进行了统计。发现有36封属于第一次看到
邮件，并出自己的诊断建议的邮件，这36封邮件共搜集到75个关键字，按频次高低分布
排列如下：放射反应(Radiation/Radioactive)和格林-巴利综合征(Guillain-Barre)，
都达到8次，其中格林-巴利综合症与协和医院诊断结果相同。而模糊的认为化学品中毒
(Chemical)和重金属中毒(Heavy Metal)的分别有5次和4次。认为红斑狼疮或系统性红
斑狼疮(Lupus)的也有4次。 Thallium出现了3次，与汞，脊髓灰质炎，肉毒，自体免疫
，频度是相同的。
（http://www.xys.org/xys/ebooks/others/science/dajia14/zhuling10.txt ）
不论是寻访当年参与诊断的医生，还是查证当年作出诊断的文件，贝志城所谓在两天之
内有八位医生作出了正确诊断，两周之内有48份邮件作出正确诊断，完全是经不起客观
查证的谎言。一个极不寻常又一直被公众忽略的是贝志城在央视《朱令的12年》文献记
录片中出现的一个费解的口误。
贝志城：十号发了那是个周一，周三我就给朱令他爸爸打电话说，我看到提问里还有说
是铊中毒。
按照逻辑常识，贝志城应该对朱令父亲说回信里有人说是铊中毒，却说成了“提问里还
有说是铊中毒”。事实上这并非口误。贝志城在北京时间1995年4月12日5点48分，也就
是4月10日发出第一份求救信后不到48小时，第二次发出求救信。在这份邮件的主题栏
中直接挑明了问题。朱令是不是铊中毒。用意非常明显就是要诱导国外医生作出铊中毒
的诊断。
Urgent!!! Need diagnostic advice for sick friend (?thallium poisoning)。
紧急！需要为患病的朋友提供诊断意见（铊中毒？）”
David Nelson 医生回信（附件3）的第一句也就是全文的主题句：“ZHU LINGS
PROBLEMS SOUND LIKE THALLIUM POISONING THE COMBINATION OF ACUTE HAIR LOSS,
GASTROINTESTINAL AND NEUROLOGICAL PROBLEMS IS ALMOST PATHOGNOMONIC. ”。 从“
PATHOGNOMONIC”这个词可以看出 Nelson医生已经非常肯定朱令是铊中毒。这个句子的
语序判断，这是对求救信主题栏中(?thallium poisoning) 的直接答复。Nelson
医生发信地址后缀为bc.ca。是加拿大British Columbia。当地时间1995年4月14日星期
四21点（Thu, 13 Apr 1995 21:27:10）是北京时间4月14日星期五中午12点。这个时间
离贝志城用电话向朱令父亲报警已经过去了两天。
关于这次诊断还有很多记录在案的怪事。求救信明明是贝志城自己撰写的，非要说成是
美国人写的。协和医生明明英文很好，起码阅读没有问题，非要不辞周张将邮件翻译成
中文送到协和医院。去递交远程诊断的贝志城明明最想要医生作的检查偏偏没有对医生
提起。贝志城三番两次恳请朱令父母去要求医生查铊中毒，在有关报道中却从未有将原
始邮件或者中文翻译件给朱家过目的记录。
一条完整的证据链已经形成。贝志城从一开始就知道朱令病情的症结。看到朱令中毒的
惨状，心理防线受到巨大的冲击，只剩下拔腿逃跑的念头。或出于良心的不安，或出于
对杀人偿命的畏惧，为了保全朱令的性命，贝志城设计了远程诊断的骗局。希望假借“
国外医生”之口告诉协和医生朱令病情的真相。事有不济，医生的诊断思维不可能超出
客观认知能力的限制。朱令当时已经危在旦夕，贝志城不得不直接以诱导提问方式寻求
国外医生尽快提供铊中毒的诊断。而且伪造了在两天之内有8位医生作出“正确诊断”
的传奇。
整个媒体包括这些提供诊断建议的医生们都以为是远程诊断创造的奇迹。但真正的救世
英雄却早在48小时内当众多专业人员莫衷一是的时候准确锁定铊中毒。这就是尼罗河朱
令案第二定律：独处藏贼。也正是因为他在朱令案的诊断过程中留下了明显的痕迹。贝
志城才需要用成堆的谎言发动一场网络审判把他伪称的“唯一嫌疑人”推上风口浪尖。
有人说人们对撒谎并不在意。不错，中国人生活中已经习惯了形形色色谎言。但是，天
上有神地下有鬼。鬼神不喜欢撒谎的人。一旦鬼神生气，骗子的厄运就要开始。
附件1：
The First Large-Scale International Telemedicine Trial to China:
ZHU Ling’s Case
http://web.archive.org/web/20000816192018/http://www.radsci.ucl
The following is a list of 84 persons who made the correct diagnosis by
themselves or by their friends who were consulted in the order of being
received by Beijing University students between April 10 and April 26, 1995.
4/10 Steve Cunnion, MD, PhD, MPH
the Uniformed Services University of Health Sciences
[email protected]
/* */
4/11 Andi/Cleveland State Univ. Ohio
Frank Bia, MD, MPH, Professor of Medicine, Yale University
Dr. Neil Kay
John M. Friedberg, M.D., Neurologist, Berkeley, CA 94705
via Robert A. Fink, M. D., F.A.C.S., Neurological Surgery
Dr. Martin Wolfe, Tropical Medicine Consultant.
via John Aldis, M.D, MPH, FACS, U.S. State of Department
(Dr. Aldis, M.D., AAFP, MPH & Tropical Medicine, U.S. State
Department, was the doctor for U.S. Embassy to China 1989-93.
He knew many doctors personally at PUMC and he actually saw
Zhu Lingling at PUMC in March. He has been highly involved
in the case and coordinated some of the international efforts.)
Prof. Leslie H Bernstein
via Carole Shmurak
Jacquie Heller
附件2：
The Tao of the Internet
by Robert A. Fink, M. D., F.A.C.S.
On April 11, 1995, I found in my Internet mailbox a message, in “fractured
” English, from a young graduate student at Beijing University in China. It
was a message of desperation. It concerned the plight of a fellow graduate
student in chemistry, a 21-year-old woman who lay in the Intensive Care Unit
of the University Hospital of Peking Union Medical College (PUMC). PUMC is
a medical school established by the Rockefeller family in the early part of
the twentieth century, and, as the model for Abraham Flexner’s seminal
report on medical education, perhaps, “the most American of non-American
medical schools”. A reconstruction of the young woman’s case history to
that date is as below:
In early December, 1994, the patient complained of abdominal pain, cramping,
and extremity pain. Extensive tests, including autoimmune studies, thyroid
tests, pelvic and abdominal untrasound, skull x-rays, and bone marrow
examination were all normal. It was noted that the patient had some
abnormalities of her nails, but this was not reported further. She was
treated with “traditional Chinese medicine” and was discharged, improved.
She subsequently returned to work (in a chemistry lab); we still do not know
what chemicals she was working with. An “afterthought” was listed in the
report, this a piece of data which was to become critical in the diagnosis
of this woman’s condition; and that was the fact that, shortly after the
onset of the abdominal symptoms on December 8, 1994, the patient’s scalp
hair fell out, and she “became bald”.
After a period of improvement (and some re-growth of hair), the patient
returned to the hospital with signs of peripheral neuropathy in the
extremities, rapidly progressive disturbances in sensorium (and recurrent
alopecia), developed multiple cranial nerve palsies, became comatose, and
required a ventilator. She also showed muscular spasms, described as “
oculogyric crises”, and a tracheostomy was performed. Lumbar puncture and
MRI studies of the brain were normal, and studies for viruses, including
Lyme Disease, were negative. The patient was treated with “shotgun”
antibiotics with no improvement.
At that point, the author corresponded with the sender of the “distress
message”. I learned that a number of other physicians, including people
from the United States, Canada, Great Britain, Singapore, Thailand,
Indonesia, and other countries, were also communicating with the student-
sender and several other students at the University. The students in China
have Internet connections but, (as we later learned), hospitals and
physicians do not. We were forced to engage in our later communication with
the medical professionals either by facsimile, which is tightly controlled
by the Chinese Government; or by sometimes circuitous person-to-person
connections. Information transmitted over the Internet to the students often
did not reach the medical professionals who were treating the patient. This
was due to the complex hierarchy of the Chinese culture, in which accepting
information from “students” is almost as alien to Chinese professionals
as is dealing with “outsiders”. This lack of direct communication has
proven to be the most significant negative factor in this equation.
One of the earliest possible diagnoses which came to the mind of the author
(and several others of the “outsiders”) was that of heavy metal poisoning
(the alopecia was the “clue”). We asked if tests had been performed for
heavy metals and were assured that such had been done early on. We later
discovered that these consisted only of a screen for arsenic!
By March 16, 1995, the patient had been in coma for several weeks; and,
despite normal cerebrospinal fluid findings, a diagnosis of Guillain-Barre
syndrome was made by the Chinese physicians. By April 12, 1995, the patient
’s condition had not changed, and a repeat lumbar puncture revealed an
elevated protein (248 mg.%) and 6 leukocytes. The impression of Guillain-
Barre syndrome was reinforced, despite messages from the “outsiders” that
this picture was not consistent with Guillain-Barre.
At about this same time, the author and John W. Aldis, M.D., a physician
working in the U. S. State Department, and formerly the Embassy physician in
Beijing, conceived of the idea of thallium poisoning, this after Dr. Aldis
was sent an article by Rose Miketta, M. D., a physician with Searle
Pharmaceutical Company, explaining the neurotoxic effects of thallium. We
again suggested that the patient be checked for thallium poisoning. This
recommendation was further backed by others, including Dr. David Bullimore
at St. James’ Hospital in England, and several other p hysicians in the
United States. Yet, two weeks passed before the Chinese physicians decided
to perform the thallium study. It required an intervention by personnel at
the American Embassy in Beijing, and personal contacts between Dr. Aldis and
several o f the PUMC doctors (whom Dr. Aldis had known from his days in
Beijing), and faxes of articles directly to the hospital, before the test
for thallium was finally run. The results were striking. The patient had
levels of thallium in blood, urine, cerebrosp inal fluid, hair, and nails
which were more than 50 times higher than “normal”! As to the source of
the thallium, this remains unknown; but certain laboratory chemicals contain
thallium; and, in the Orient, there are several industrial compounds (
including several brands of rat poison) which contain thallium (its use is
generally outlawed in the western world).
Once the diagnosis was established, the next problem was encountered.
Several of us, using the Internet and other online databases, searched the
literature for the optimum method of removing thallium from the body. A
number of methods were cited; but to xicologists at the New York and Los
Angeles Poison Control Centers felt that the most effective treatment was
that of administration of the dye Prussian Blue (ferric ferrocyanide) and
renal hemodialysis, with addition of potassium chloride. Then came the
problem of obtaining the Prussian Blue (a common industrial chemical which
was eventually found in China). Underlying this difficulty was the fact that
, once again, advice from “outsiders” was suspect by the Chinese.
Finally, after many phone calls, faxes, and other communications (the
doctors at PUMC would not deal with the students, who had Internet
connections), including the involvement of the patient’s family (several of
whom were known political figures locally) , the Prussian Blue-hemodialysis
regimen was started on May 5, 1995, this almost one month from the initial
proposal of the diagnosis of thallium intoxication and some forty days after
the patient had lapsed into coma and had become apneic.
I wish that I could report a “happy ending” here. The patient responded
rapidly to the treatment, and, within 15 days after the institution of
treatment, the patient’s thallium levels in blood, urine, and cerebrospinal
fluid had decreased to near-zero (although certain other tissues, such as
nails and hair, will retain the metal for many weeks and will slowly “leach
out”). Sadly, the patient’s neurological condition has not improved to a
significant degree. She now has been partially weaned from the ventilator,
and seems to recognize her parents; but she does not as yet have full
consciousness, nor does she exhibit much in the way of voluntary or
purposeful activity. The long period of brain intoxication in this case
appears to be the reason for her lack of further progress to date and the
prognosis for recovery remains guarded.
In recent years, there has been geometric growth in the use of online
communication in medicine. The new field of “Telemedicine” is rapidly
being advanced in the developed countries, with computer review of case
histories, imaging studies (many of which are digital in their native form),
and other medical data becoming almost “routine” in making judgments, for
example, as to the transport of seriously ill or injured patients to
tertiary medical centers. In our own area, patients are transported on a
daily basis, from small facilities out in the “hinterland” to major urban
medical centers. Physicians at outlying hospitals have, through a simple
computer/modem connection, access to specialists and centers with advanced
technology. The growing use of ISDN (Integrated Services Digital Network)
telephone lines has made the transfer of complex information, including full
-resolution MRI and CT scans, into a rapid and seamless procedure. The
global Internet renders such “connectivity” a relatively inexpensive
reality to be enjoyed by health care professionals and patients throughout
the world.
Despite this availability of technology (and, in the case of this
unfortunate student), however, the finest advances in global communication
cannot surmount centuries of tradition and cultural differences. In this
case, the cultural differences delayed implementation of the large volume of
collective knowledge which was brought to bear on behalf of a young woman;
and sadly in this instance, was probably “too little and too late”. As
with other problems in this world, it still comes down to the “human factor
”.
As we advance the cause of “Telemedicine” and other interactive
technologies, we must never lose sight of the fact that, behind these
wonderful machines are the minds and hearts, and prejudices, of the human
beings who run them. It is in this “human arena” where we need to place
our educational emphasis, so that the marvels of the modern digital age can
be used for the advancement of our species and of the world as a whole.
AUTHOR’S NOTE:
This paper is dedicated to Zhu Lin, the 21-year-old student who is the
subject of the case report. Acknowledgement is also gratefully made to John
W. Aldis, M. D. (U. S. State Department); Xin Li (telemedicine fellow at
UCLA Medical Center); Dr. Ashok Ja in (USC Department of Emergency Medicine
and Los Angeles Poison Control Center); Dr. R. Hoffman and his colleagues (
New York City Poison Control Center); Dr. David Bullimore (University of
Leeds, England); and the myriad other people who labored on behalf of a
young woman, critically ill halfway across the world.
http://www.rafink.com/tao.php
附件3，加拿大医生David Nelson 的电邮。
Urgent!!! Need diagnostic advice for sick friend (?thallium poisoning)
In article eye…@mindlink.bc.ca (David Nelson) writes:
> From: eye…@mindlink.bc.ca (David Nelson)
> Subject: Re: Urgent!!! Need diagnostic advice for sick friend
> Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 21:27:10
> In article ca…@mccux0.mech.pku.edu.cn (Cai Quanqing) writes:
>> Path: news.mindlink.net!agate!hpg30a.csc.cuhk.hk!linuxguy.pku.edu.cn!
mccux0!caiqq
>> From: ca…@mccux0.mech.pku.edu.cn (Cai Quanqing)
>> Newsgroups: sci.med,sci.med.diseases.cancer,sci.med.immunology,sci.med.
informatics,sci.med.nursing,sci.med.nutrition,sci.med.occupational,sci.med.
pharmacy,sci.med.physics,sci.med.psychobiology,sci.med.radiology,sci.med.
telemedicine,sci.med.transcription
>> ci.med.vision
>> Subject: Urgent!!! Need diagnostic advice for sick friend
>> Date: 11 Apr 1995 19:48:59 GMT
>> Organization: Peking Universary,China
>> Lines: 106
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med.immunology:1247 sci.med.informatics:1918 sci.med.nursing:5238 sci.med.
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ZHU LINGS PROBLEMS SOUND LIKE THALLIUM POISONING THE COMBINATION OF ACUTE
HAIR
LOSS, GASTROINTESTINAL AND NEUROLOGICAL PROBLEMS IS ALMOST PATHOGNOMONIC.
UNLESS SHE WORKSWITH THALLIUM (AS IN PRODUCING OPTICAL LENSES) THEN IT IS
LIKELY THAT SHE ISBEING POISONED DELIBERATELY. PLEASE PROVIDE ME WITH
FOLLOWUP.
YOU MAY BE INTERESTED IN REFERENCE: FELDMAN D, LEVISOHN DR “ACUTE ALOPECIA:
CLUE TO THALLIUM TOXICITY” PEDIATRIC DERMATOLOGY 10910;29-31 1993 MARCH.
ABSTRACT: COMBINATION OF RAPID DIFFUSE ALOPECIA, NEUROLOGICAL AND
GASTROINTESTINAL DISTURBANCE IS PATHOGNOMONIC FOR THALLIUM POISONING. THE
HAIR
MOUNT SHOWED A TAPERED OR BAYONET ANAGEN HAIR WITH BLACK PIGMENTATION AT THE
BASE MAY BE HIGHLY DIAGNOSTIC BEFORE THE ONSET OF ALOPECIA. WE SAW A 10 YEAR
OLD BOY WHO SUFFERED FROM THALLIUM POISONING (END ABSTRAST)
YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO DETECT THALLIUM IN THE HAIR WITH A MASS SPECTROMETER I
WOULD HAVE THOUGHT.
HOPE THIS IS OF HELP
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> I will attempt to forward your message to the eye specialists and
> neuro-ophthalmologists of north america to see if anyone can be of
> assistance.
> Best Wishes,
> David Nelson, M.D. | k**********4
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: 【 以下文字转载自 Detective 讨论区 】
: 发信人: nile (nile), 信区: Detective
: 标 题: 尼罗河朱令案系列之10，诊断骗局之独处藏贼
: 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Dec 6 10:12:21 2014, 美东)
: 在《诊断骗局之鱼目混珠》一文中，尼罗河揭示贝志城在中央电视台文献记录片中展示
: 的“远程诊断”不过是他自己从教科书上摘录的内容。人们不禁要问，既然贝志城声称
: 手里有上千份电邮回复，其中30%作出了铊中毒的正确诊断。一个绝对数字是48份邮件
: 作出了铊中毒的正确诊断。拿出一份邮件来给大家见识一下这个“正确诊断”应该是没
: 有问题的。贝志城之所以不能出示“正确诊断”并不是因为他手里没有这样的东西，而
: 是他遇到一道绕不过去的坎：时间限制性。注意下面这段对话（中央电视台文献记录片
| n**e
发帖数: 2026 | 3 有人说人们对撒谎并不在意。不错，中国人生活中已经习惯了形形色色谎言。但是，天
上有神地下有鬼。鬼神不喜欢撒谎的人。一旦鬼神生气，骗子的厄运就要开始。
【在 k**********4 的大作中提到】
: so you think Bei is the murderer or one of the murderers?
| f**********u
发帖数: 348 | 4 你了你说话可要小心啊。老人家讲举头三尺有神明，你每天不停的在这里撒谎都不眨眼
睛的废话连篇，你的厄运是不是已经开始了哈。话说你不是对撒谎不在意，而是撒谎已
经是你生活的常态了哈。
【在 n**e 的大作中提到】
: 有人说人们对撒谎并不在意。不错，中国人生活中已经习惯了形形色色谎言。但是，天
: 上有神地下有鬼。鬼神不喜欢撒谎的人。一旦鬼神生气，骗子的厄运就要开始。
| n**e
发帖数: 2026 | 5 如果不是你这个无耻的同性恋人渣用马甲fzld侮辱朱令诬陷孙维，我还没想到“独处藏
贼”
这个词。
【在 f**********u 的大作中提到】
: 你了你说话可要小心啊。老人家讲举头三尺有神明，你每天不停的在这里撒谎都不眨眼
: 睛的废话连篇，你的厄运是不是已经开始了哈。话说你不是对撒谎不在意，而是撒谎已
: 经是你生活的常态了哈。
| c****1
发帖数: 167 | 6
【在 n**e 的大作中提到】
: 如果不是你这个无耻的同性恋人渣用马甲fzld侮辱朱令诬陷孙维，我还没想到“独处藏
: 贼”
: 这个词。
| f**********u
发帖数: 348 | 7 nile，你不要觉得你自己下作，然后别人也和你一样哈。
再问一句，你为朱令捐过钱么？既然你这么为朱令“仗义直言”。
【在 n**e 的大作中提到】
: 如果不是你这个无耻的同性恋人渣用马甲fzld侮辱朱令诬陷孙维，我还没想到“独处藏
: 贼”
: 这个词。
| n**e
发帖数: 2026 | 8 没有人认为我尼罗河与撸管插鱼口的同性恋人渣有任何共同之处。
【在 f**********u 的大作中提到】
: nile，你不要觉得你自己下作，然后别人也和你一样哈。
: 再问一句，你为朱令捐过钱么？既然你这么为朱令“仗义直言”。
| f**********u
发帖数: 348 | 9 nile，还是那句话，你自己下作但是不要把别人想的和你一样。看看你说的都是什么啊
，要不是因为你如此跪舔孙铊，你爷爷我才懒得理你。
【在 n**e 的大作中提到】
: 没有人认为我尼罗河与撸管插鱼口的同性恋人渣有任何共同之处。
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