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这篇文章比较了两个人出生盘的强烈的联系。Bruce Kelly和James Edward Johnston。
Bruce Kelly有对水的强烈恐惧。在Hypnotherapist,Rick Brown帮助的催眠中,它指
出以前是James Edward Johnston,在二战中因为潜艇被袭击而死。
有兴趣的自己看,没有翻译 [仅供娱乐]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AB4ib-W29ZY
Past Lives: Discover the Link Between Lifetimes
by Rose Murray
There are two anonymous natal charts on the blackboard this evening in my
Advanced Astrology class. I have identified the first as "Possible Past
Life," the second as "Present Life."
In the back of the classroom, a quiet visitor has taken a seat to watch
the proceedings. I will not disclose his identity to my students at the
Carroll Righter Foundation in Hollywood until later in the hour when class
members have decided whether these two charts seem to be connected--and have
discussed why they think so.
I, as the instructor, know that the stranger at the back of the room is
the hypnotherapist who has worked the regression case I am featuring this
evening, and has elicited from his client the birth data for the "Past Life"
chart on the board.
At this point, therapist Rick Brown has not yet appeared on Unsolved
Mysteries to present to TV viewers nationwide the story of a claustrophobic
client who recalled dying in a World War II submarine accident, a client who
, under hypnosis, remembered his former name, and from that was able to
track down his prior- lifetime war record, birth certificate and former
family.
Nor does my class know any of this story. I tell them only that this is
another pair of charts to examine for possible karmic links. Is there any
astrological evidence that the "Present Life" man could have actually been
the "Past Life" individual in a former existence?
The answers come swiftly. We have studied many such pairs of charts. By
the end of the hour, it has been established that Man #2 probably has a fear
of confined spaces, and that Man #1 may have died by drowning. Many links
are seen between the two charts. Little by little a surprisingly accurate
scenario comes forth.
I then surprise the class by introducing the hynotherapist. Rick, a
Glendora, California, therapist, gets up to tell the full story. He's a
large, bearded man, a Sagittarian with Cancer rising, who relates easily to
the class. He's astounded and pleased that astrology can help validate past-
life regression in this way.
Client Bruce Kelly, he says, wanted to get to the roots of his fear of
enclosed places and of water. He was regressed to a life as James Johnston,
a World War II American sailor, and relived the experience of dying in a
submarine in that lifetime.
The memories were not vague, he said. Kelly recalled the name of a man
who died with him, the type of sub, and many other details that later were
verified in war records. Eventually, they found Johnston's birth certificate
and surviving family members in Alabama. (Brown has told the story in depth
in his book, The Reincarnation of James, Rick Brown, P. O. Box 1358,
Glendora, CA 91740-1358.)
Because of the body of evidence linking these lifetimes, the charts of
these two men provide wonderful examples for the astrological student.
Birth Data
It's important to have correct birth data in order to research this
fascinating area of astrology. In this case, we have birth certificate data
for both men.
James Edward Johnston was born February 1, 1921, at 5:00 p.m. CST, in
Jacksonville, Alabama. He lived alone with his mother, Annie, until her
death in 1936. After a brief stint in the Civilian Conservation Corps, he
enlisted in the U.S. Navy in 1940. He died aboard the submarine Shark on
February 11, 1942, at 11:34 p.m., when the Shark was hit by the Japanese
destroyer Amatsukaze near Celebes Island in the Pacific Ocean.
Bruce Kelly was born January 19, 1953, at 7:58 p.m. PST, at Glendale,
California. In search of answers to what seemed to be groundless fears--of
water, even in a bathtub, and fear of enclosed places, including elevators
and airplanes--he began hypnosis sessions with Rick Brown in November 1987.
He found himself in a submarine when asked to return to the source of his
fears. He was an unusually rewarding subject in that he recalled so many
details vividly, even names and dates.
The House of Karma
The twelfth house of one's chart, often associated with past lives, is
the first place to look for the karmic past. It is the house that gives
information about hidden memories and fears. If you have carried any
negative programming into your current incarnation, you are likely to find
it symbolized by your twelfth house planets or ruler.
The twelfth is usually considered the house of the most immediate past
life. In Kelly's chart, the South Node is here, an indication that karmic
lessons from a past life would be a strong influence in his subconscious
fears. Pluto is also in this house at 22 Leo. This seems to suggest extra
heavy karma, especially in dealing with the manner of death in a previous
life.
Since Pluto co-rules his third house, his thinking would be especially
affected by the subconscious Plutonian element. Pluto demands catharsis and
often therapy. As the natural ruler of the eighth house of death, it
suggests that the manner of his death in the past could be at the root of
hidden fears.
If you turn the wheel of Kelly's chart so that the twelfth house becomes
the first house of a past life, you will see Leo rising as it did in
Johnston's chart.
This is the first step you can take in looking at your own chart. What is
the sign on the cusp of your twelfth house? That may have been your
ascendant in your most immediate past life--or it can in some way describe
the person you were then.
Look also at any planets in your twelfth house. They will reveal past
issues you have brought into this life to resolve.
The Nodes
The nodal axis in one's present chart may have been an important axis in
a past life chart. The South Node is especially important, as indicated
above, because it usually tells us something important about the past, by
sign or house, or both.
Kelly has his Nodes in 12 Aquarius/Leo, from his sixth house to his
twelfth. His South Node at 12 Leo in his twelfth is conjunct Johnston's
first house Neptune at 12 Leo, an important placement in the latter's chart
because it suggests his vocation of sailor, as well as ruling his eighth
house of death.
Kelly's North Node at 12 Aquarius is conjunct Johnston's seventh house
Sun at 12 Aquarius. Thus the nodal axis runs along the line of the sailor's
Sun opposite Neptune. This looks like a sure link, since in Johnston's chart
, the Sun/Neptune opposition says something about death on the sea through
open enemies (seventh house), which became such a trauma for Kelly.
In this way, the nodes of Kelly's chart, combined with the planets in
Johnston's chart, suggest what was carried over. In his life as Kelly, he
had to deal with the fear created by his death, and this fear was
represented by the South Node in 12 Leo on the degree of his former Neptune.
You will note that Kelly's nodal axis also reflects the zodiacal degrees
of Johnston's ascendant/descendant. Kelly's South Node at 12 Leo is almost
conjunct Johnston's ascendant at 10 Leo. I have in my files other cases
featuring the transfer between Nodal Axis and chart angles. Sometimes the
nodal axis in one chart is the same as the ascendant/descendant in the other
, and sometimes the same as the midheaven/IC axis.
If you want to explore past-life possibilities yourself, look to this
nodal axis. The South Node particularly pertains to your past.
The Kind of Death
The eighth house in Johnston's chart shows the kind of death in that life.
The sign Pisces on the cusp of Johnston's eighth house suggests water,
confusion, and drowning. True, such a Pisces placement might also mean death
through drugs, alcohol, or some other Neptunian symbol, but in light of
Kelly's phobia about water, we would be more likely to think of a watery
death.
Uranus practically on the cusp of the eighth house tells us that death
came quickly and unexpectedly. That war or strife and sea adventure might be
involved is symbolized by Mars in Pisces in the eighth house. Venus also
there means that he might not have suffered greatly.
Neptune, the ruler of Pisces, just below the ascendant of bodily health,
opposite the Sun, ruler of vitality and his first house, again can indicate
death by drowning.
To see whether Kelly's chart tells us similar things about death in a
past life, turn his chart so that his twelfth house becomes his ascendant.
When you do, his current seventh house becomes his eighth house. Pisces is
on the cusp, as was the case with Johnston. The ruler of Pisces, Neptune, is
in the new third house in Libra.
Pisces and Neptune again tell us that drowning may have been involved.
The third house indicates that some form of transportation may have been a
factor. Libra, the sign of partners, suggests that he may not have been
alone. In fact, there was another sailor with him at the time of death,
whose name he remembered accurately under hypnosis.
With this method of turning the chart, Venus and Mars in Pisces will now
be in the new eighth house. Since Johnston also had Venus and Mars in Pisces
in his eighth house, these planetary placements help point to a past life
as Johnston.
To see how you may have died in your most immediate past life, turn your
chart so that your twelfth-house cusp becomes your ascendant. Your present
seventh house becomes your eighth house. Read the indications there.
The Sixth House Influence
The type of illness that preceded death is shown by this house. Capricorn
is on the cusp in Johnston's chart. Saturn, the ruler of Capricorn, is in
Johnston's second house opposite Mars in the eighth. Saturn can indicate a
fall, while Mars opposite might mean he would be hit a crushing blow in
death. He had been hit in the chest by a beam and he still carried the pain
of it in his life as Kelly.
When you turn Kelly's chart, you'll find that his present fifth house
becomes his sixth house. Capricorn is also on the cusp of this house. Saturn
, the ruler of Capricorn, can now be found in Kelly's new third house,
conjunct Neptune. Here again, we get the message of a fall and drowning as
his final illness.
You can apply this to your own chart also. See what your current fifth
house, turned to become the past-life sixth house, has to say about your
past-life final illness.
Similarities between Charts
We would expect to see some similar placements from one chart to the next
since many traits and attitudes are being carried over from one life to the
next. This is especially true when one dies young and comes back very
quickly.
There are definitely similar placements and patterns in the two charts.
Both have: Venus conjunct Mars in Picses; the Moon in a fire sign; Uranus in
a water sign; a Sun-Pluto inconjunct; Jupiter in an earth sign; Saturn in
the second house conjunct another planet; and a planet at 29 degrees.
We also usually see a forward or backward move through the zodiac of Sun
and ascendant. This is not always true, but has been noted in many cases. In
this case, Johnston's Aquarius sun sign moves back one sign to become Kelly
's Capricorn sun sign. Meanwhile, Johnston's Leo ascendant moves forward one
sign to become Kelly's Virgo ascendant.
Often, one notes that a significant planet or placement in the first
chart become the ascendant or midheaven in the second chart. That is not
true in this case. But there is a similarity in midheavens. If you progress
Johnston's midheaven 32 degrees to represent the 32 years between Johnston's
birth in 1921 and Kelly's birth in 1953, the MC will have moved from early
Taurus into early Gemini, where it is in Kelly's chart.
Interplanetary Interactions Between Charts
Since Pluto rules reincarnation and Saturn indicates death as well as
lessons to be learned, one often sees ties between these planets in the two
charts, both natal and directed by solar arc. You'll note an arc of
approximately 32 degrees between Johnston's Saturn at 24 Virgo and Kelly's
Pluto at 22 Leo. This is also the number of years between Johnston's birth
and Kelly's birth.
In addition, the midpoint of Kelly's Saturn and Pluto is at 24 Virgo,
conjunct Johnston's Saturn at 24 Virgo.
There is also a significant tie between the two Saturns. When you add 32
degrees to Johnston's Saturn (24Virgo04), you'll come a degree away from
Kelly's Saturn (27Libra04).
Arabic Parts
There are three Arabic parts that I use to find past-life kinship between
charts. One is the Part of Karma (ascendant plus Saturn minus the Sun). The
second is the Part of Reincarnation (ascendant plus Jupiter minus Saturn).
The third is the Part of Death (ascendant plus eighth-house cusp minus Moon)
. The Part of Reincarnation seems to be the most significant.
Johnston's Part of Karma is 22 Pisces 04. It falls into his eighth house
of death, conjunct his Mars at 21 Pisces 22. This suggests that the manner
of his death was somehow karmic in nature.
His Part of Reincarnation is 4 Leo 11. It falls into his twelfth house.
Transiting Pluto was 4 Leo 15 on the date of his death, seeming to indicate
the end of that life.
His Part of Death is 7 Scorpio 40. It falls into his fourth house, and in
his case showed a watery death. A link with Kelly is shown by its
conjunction with Kelly's Part of Fortune at 8 Scorpio 18.
Kelly's Part of Karma is 2 Gemini 26. It is conjunct his own midheaven of
2 Gemini 33. This seems to me to indicate that his karma would make him
famous in some way. Since his case has already been presented on television,
this is true. It might also indicate a parent or boss relationship that is
karmic in nature.
When we look for Kelly's Part of Reincarnation, we find it at 19 Pisces
28 in his seventh house. It is very close to Johnston's eighth house Mars at
21 Pisces. This is a strong suggestion of connection between the two charts.
Kelly's Part of Death at 2 Virgo 49 falls in his own twelfth house. If
you regress this back 11 years to his death as Johnston in 1942, it becomes
21 Leo 49, conjoining Kelly's own twelfth-house Pluto.
Karmic Midpoints
Another method you can use to find karmic links involves the Uranian
formulas for birth and death. To simplify this method, we can use the
formulas without employing a 90-degree dial or the transneptunian planets.
The theory is that when you direct one of these birth or death formulas
forward or backward a number of degrees equal to the number of years between
lives, a significant planet or point should be hit. This is based upon the
idea that our charts express more than our current existence. (For more
about a Uranian approach to past lives, see Maria Kay Simms' Dial Detective,
ACS Publications, San Diego.)
A Uranian death formula that works with the Johnston/Kelly charts is
Uranus plus Neptune minus North Node. In Kelly's chart, this falls at 27
Pisces 24. When you direct this back 11 years from Kelly's birth to Johnston
's death, you arrive at 16 Pisces 24. This falls on Kelly's own Venus at 16
Pisces 20 in the eighth house of his turned chart. This could show a
previous death eleven years before his own birth.
A birth formula that works here is Venus/Uranus. In Johnston's chart,
this midpoint falls at 16 Pisces 44. As you may notice, this is conjunct
Kelly's Venus also. When you direct this forward 11 years to Kelly's birth,
it becomes 27 Pisces 44, right near Johnston's own eighth-house Venus (and
conjunct Kelly's death aspect above.) This shows a very strong connection
between the two charts.
The Aries Point and Your Past
In Uranian astrology, the Aries Point (0 degrees Aries) symbolizes your
connection with the world in general. When you are looking in your chart for
events symbolic of your relation to the world in general, you direct your
age-arc forward or backward from the Aries point to see where they link up
with your natal planets.
From my research, I've concluded that there's an amazing relationship
between the Aries point and the Part of Reincarnation in indicating
intervals between lifetimes.
For instance, there is an 11-year interval between the lives of Johnston
and Kelly. In Kelly's chart, when you direct the Aries Point backward 11
degrees from his birth to Johnston's death, you arrive at 19 Pisces. (0
Aries=360 degrees minus 11 = 349 or 19 Pisces) Kelly's Part of Reincarnation
is 19 Pisces.
In going back to a previous life, you should always measure from your own
birth back to the other's death. Since we are working with a 360-degree
wheel rather than a 90-degree dial, you have to adjust your answers to the
90-degree dial way of thinking. Kelly's Part of Reincarnation in such a dial
would also have been conjunct anything at 19 Virgo (opposite) or 19 Gemini
and 19 Sagittarius (both square) in order to be valid. Just remember that
all planets in cardinal signs are conjunct each other. All fixed Signs are
also conjunct, as are all mutable signs.
You do not necessarily always move backward from the Aries Point in
measuring the years to a past life. In a few charts, I've found that
measuring forward works best. A man who was born in 1927 recalls a past life
as a World War I aviator who died in 1918, nine years before his own birth.
Measuring forward 9 degrees for 9 years, you arrive at 9 Aries. This man's
Part of Reincarnation is opposite at 9 Libra.
What about measuring forward from a previous lifetime chart to verify
that the person you have in mind may have reincarnated at the time of your
birth. You can do this also. But since you must start with a birthchart, you
should measure this from birth year to birth year (rather than back from
birth year to death year) to get the right result.
In the cases we are examining, Johnston was born in 1921, Kelly in 1953.
That is an interval of 32 years. Measuring forward in Johnston's chart from
the Aries Point a distance of 32 years, you will arrive at 2 degrees Taurus.
Since Johnston's Part of Reincarnation is 4 Leo, this is conjunct. (I think
it would be exactly conjunct if Johnston's Ascendant were more accurate.
When you see that a person has been born right on the hour--in this case 5:
00 P.M.--it's right to wonder if that time is not a minute or two off.)
You may find other methods that work better for you. All of our research
in past lives cannot be anything but tentative since we have no absolute
proof. But the case of James Johnston who became Bruce Kelly stands out as a
milestone on the road of discovery in this fascinating field.
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这篇文章比较了两个人出生盘的强烈的联系。Bruce Kelly和James Edward Johnston。
Bruce Kelly有对水的强烈恐惧。在Hypnotherapist,Rick Brown帮助的催眠中,它指
出以前是James Edward Johnston,在二战中因为潜艇被袭击而死。
有兴趣的自己看,没有翻译 [仅供娱乐]
Youtube 链接:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AB4ib-W29ZY
Past Lives: Discover the Link Between Lifetimes
by Rose Murray
There are two anonymous natal charts on the blackboard this evening in my
Advanced Astrology class. I have identified the first as "Possible Past
Life," the second as "Present Life."
In the back of the classroom, a quiet visitor has taken a seat to watch
the proceedings. I will not disclose his identity to my students at the
Carroll Righter Foundation in Hollywood until later in the hour when class
members have decided whether these two charts seem to be connected--and have
discussed why they think so.
I, as the instructor, know that the stranger at the back of the room is
the hypnotherapist who has worked the regression case I am featuring this
evening, and has elicited from his client the birth data for the "Past Life"
chart on the board.
At this point, therapist Rick Brown has not yet appeared on Unsolved
Mysteries to present to TV viewers nationwide the story of a claustrophobic
client who recalled dying in a World War II submarine accident, a client who
, under hypnosis, remembered his former name, and from that was able to
track down his prior- lifetime war record, birth certificate and former
family.
Nor does my class know any of this story. I tell them only that this is
another pair of charts to examine for possible karmic links. Is there any
astrological evidence that the "Present Life" man could have actually been
the "Past Life" individual in a former existence?
The answers come swiftly. We have studied many such pairs of charts. By
the end of the hour, it has been established that Man #2 probably has a fear
of confined spaces, and that Man #1 may have died by drowning. Many links
are seen between the two charts. Little by little a surprisingly accurate
scenario comes forth.
I then surprise the class by introducing the hynotherapist. Rick, a
Glendora, California, therapist, gets up to tell the full story. He's a
large, bearded man, a Sagittarian with Cancer rising, who relates easily to
the class. He's astounded and pleased that astrology can help validate past-
life regression in this way.
Client Bruce Kelly, he says, wanted to get to the roots of his fear of
enclosed places and of water. He was regressed to a life as James Johnston,
a World War II American sailor, and relived the experience of dying in a
submarine in that lifetime.
The memories were not vague, he said. Kelly recalled the name of a man
who died with him, the type of sub, and many other details that later were
verified in war records. Eventually, they found Johnston's birth certificate
and surviving family members in Alabama. (Brown has told the story in depth
in his book, The Reincarnation of James, Rick Brown, P. O. Box 1358,
Glendora, CA 91740-1358.)
Because of the body of evidence linking these lifetimes, the charts of
these two men provide wonderful examples for the astrological student.
Birth Data
It's important to have correct birth data in order to research this
fascinating area of astrology. In this case, we have birth certificate data
for both men.
James Edward Johnston was born February 1, 1921, at 5:00 p.m. CST, in
Jacksonville, Alabama. He lived alone with his mother, Annie, until her
death in 1936. After a brief stint in the Civilian Conservation Corps, he
enlisted in the U.S. Navy in 1940. He died aboard the submarine Shark on
February 11, 1942, at 11:34 p.m., when the Shark was hit by the Japanese
destroyer Amatsukaze near Celebes Island in the Pacific Ocean.
Bruce Kelly was born January 19, 1953, at 7:58 p.m. PST, at Glendale,
California. In search of answers to what seemed to be groundless fears--of
water, even in a bathtub, and fear of enclosed places, including elevators
and airplanes--he began hypnosis sessions with Rick Brown in November 1987.
He found himself in a submarine when asked to return to the source of his
fears. He was an unusually rewarding subject in that he recalled so many
details vividly, even names and dates.
The House of Karma
The twelfth house of one's chart, often associated with past lives, is
the first place to look for the karmic past. It is the house that gives
information about hidden memories and fears. If you have carried any
negative programming into your current incarnation, you are likely to find
it symbolized by your twelfth house planets or ruler.
The twelfth is usually considered the house of the most immediate past
life. In Kelly's chart, the South Node is here, an indication that karmic
lessons from a past life would be a strong influence in his subconscious
fears. Pluto is also in this house at 22 Leo. This seems to suggest extra
heavy karma, especially in dealing with the manner of death in a previous
life.
Since Pluto co-rules his third house, his thinking would be especially
affected by the subconscious Plutonian element. Pluto demands catharsis and
often therapy. As the natural ruler of the eighth house of death, it
suggests that the manner of his death in the past could be at the root of
hidden fears.
If you turn the wheel of Kelly's chart so that the twelfth house becomes
the first house of a past life, you will see Leo rising as it did in
Johnston's chart.
This is the first step you can take in looking at your own chart. What is
the sign on the cusp of your twelfth house? That may have been your
ascendant in your most immediate past life--or it can in some way describe
the person you were then.
Look also at any planets in your twelfth house. They will reveal past
issues you have brought into this life to resolve.
The Nodes
The nodal axis in one's present chart may have been an important axis in
a past life chart. The South Node is especially important, as indicated
above, because it usually tells us something important about the past, by
sign or house, or both.
Kelly has his Nodes in 12 Aquarius/Leo, from his sixth house to his
twelfth. His South Node at 12 Leo in his twelfth is conjunct Johnston's
first house Neptune at 12 Leo, an important placement in the latter's chart
because it suggests his vocation of sailor, as well as ruling his eighth
house of death.
Kelly's North Node at 12 Aquarius is conjunct Johnston's seventh house
Sun at 12 Aquarius. Thus the nodal axis runs along the line of the sailor's
Sun opposite Neptune. This looks like a sure link, since in Johnston's chart
, the Sun/Neptune opposition says something about death on the sea through
open enemies (seventh house), which became such a trauma for Kelly.
In this way, the nodes of Kelly's chart, combined with the planets in
Johnston's chart, suggest what was carried over. In his life as Kelly, he
had to deal with the fear created by his death, and this fear was
represented by the South Node in 12 Leo on the degree of his former Neptune.
You will note that Kelly's nodal axis also reflects the zodiacal degrees
of Johnston's ascendant/descendant. Kelly's South Node at 12 Leo is almost
conjunct Johnston's ascendant at 10 Leo. I have in my files other cases
featuring the transfer between Nodal Axis and chart angles. Sometimes the
nodal axis in one chart is the same as the ascendant/descendant in the other
, and sometimes the same as the midheaven/IC axis.
If you want to explore past-life possibilities yourself, look to this
nodal axis. The South Node particularly pertains to your past.
The Kind of Death
The eighth house in Johnston's chart shows the kind of death in that life.
The sign Pisces on the cusp of Johnston's eighth house suggests water,
confusion, and drowning. True, such a Pisces placement might also mean death
through drugs, alcohol, or some other Neptunian symbol, but in light of
Kelly's phobia about water, we would be more likely to think of a watery
death.
Uranus practically on the cusp of the eighth house tells us that death
came quickly and unexpectedly. That war or strife and sea adventure might be
involved is symbolized by Mars in Pisces in the eighth house. Venus also
there means that he might not have suffered greatly.
Neptune, the ruler of Pisces, just below the ascendant of bodily health,
opposite the Sun, ruler of vitality and his first house, again can indicate
death by drowning.
To see whether Kelly's chart tells us similar things about death in a
past life, turn his chart so that his twelfth house becomes his ascendant.
When you do, his current seventh house becomes his eighth house. Pisces is
on the cusp, as was the case with Johnston. The ruler of Pisces, Neptune, is
in the new third house in Libra.
Pisces and Neptune again tell us that drowning may have been involved.
The third house indicates that some form of transportation may have been a
factor. Libra, the sign of partners, suggests that he may not have been
alone. In fact, there was another sailor with him at the time of death,
whose name he remembered accurately under hypnosis.
With this method of turning the chart, Venus and Mars in Pisces will now
be in the new eighth house. Since Johnston also had Venus and Mars in Pisces
in his eighth house, these planetary placements help point to a past life
as Johnston.
To see how you may have died in your most immediate past life, turn your
chart so that your twelfth-house cusp becomes your ascendant. Your present
seventh house becomes your eighth house. Read the indications there.
The Sixth House Influence
The type of illness that preceded death is shown by this house. Capricorn
is on the cusp in Johnston's chart. Saturn, the ruler of Capricorn, is in
Johnston's second house opposite Mars in the eighth. Saturn can indicate a
fall, while Mars opposite might mean he would be hit a crushing blow in
death. He had been hit in the chest by a beam and he still carried the pain
of it in his life as Kelly.
When you turn Kelly's chart, you'll find that his present fifth house
becomes his sixth house. Capricorn is also on the cusp of this house. Saturn
, the ruler of Capricorn, can now be found in Kelly's new third house,
conjunct Neptune. Here again, we get the message of a fall and drowning as
his final illness.
You can apply this to your own chart also. See what your current fifth
house, turned to become the past-life sixth house, has to say about your
past-life final illness.
Similarities between Charts
We would expect to see some similar placements from one chart to the next
since many traits and attitudes are being carried over from one life to the
next. This is especially true when one dies young and comes back very
quickly.
There are definitely similar placements and patterns in the two charts.
Both have: Venus conjunct Mars in Picses; the Moon in a fire sign; Uranus in
a water sign; a Sun-Pluto inconjunct; Jupiter in an earth sign; Saturn in
the second house conjunct another planet; and a planet at 29 degrees.
We also usually see a forward or backward move through the zodiac of Sun
and ascendant. This is not always true, but has been noted in many cases. In
this case, Johnston's Aquarius sun sign moves back one sign to become Kelly
's Capricorn sun sign. Meanwhile, Johnston's Leo ascendant moves forward one
sign to become Kelly's Virgo ascendant.
Often, one notes that a significant planet or placement in the first
chart become the ascendant or midheaven in the second chart. That is not
true in this case. But there is a similarity in midheavens. If you progress
Johnston's midheaven 32 degrees to represent the 32 years between Johnston's
birth in 1921 and Kelly's birth in 1953, the MC will have moved from early
Taurus into early Gemini, where it is in Kelly's chart.
Interplanetary Interactions Between Charts
Since Pluto rules reincarnation and Saturn indicates death as well as
lessons to be learned, one often sees ties between these planets in the two
charts, both natal and directed by solar arc. You'll note an arc of
approximately 32 degrees between Johnston's Saturn at 24 Virgo and Kelly's
Pluto at 22 Leo. This is also the number of years between Johnston's birth
and Kelly's birth.
In addition, the midpoint of Kelly's Saturn and Pluto is at 24 Virgo,
conjunct Johnston's Saturn at 24 Virgo.
There is also a significant tie between the two Saturns. When you add 32
degrees to Johnston's Saturn (24Virgo04), you'll come a degree away from
Kelly's Saturn (27Libra04).
Arabic Parts
There are three Arabic parts that I use to find past-life kinship between
charts. One is the Part of Karma (ascendant plus Saturn minus the Sun). The
second is the Part of Reincarnation (ascendant plus Jupiter minus Saturn).
The third is the Part of Death (ascendant plus eighth-house cusp minus Moon)
. The Part of Reincarnation seems to be the most significant.
Johnston's Part of Karma is 22 Pisces 04. It falls into his eighth house
of death, conjunct his Mars at 21 Pisces 22. This suggests that the manner
of his death was somehow karmic in nature.
His Part of Reincarnation is 4 Leo 11. It falls into his twelfth house.
Transiting Pluto was 4 Leo 15 on the date of his death, seeming to indicate
the end of that life.
His Part of Death is 7 Scorpio 40. It falls into his fourth house, and in
his case showed a watery death. A link with Kelly is shown by its
conjunction with Kelly's Part of Fortune at 8 Scorpio 18.
Kelly's Part of Karma is 2 Gemini 26. It is conjunct his own midheaven of
2 Gemini 33. This seems to me to indicate that his karma would make him
famous in some way. Since his case has already been presented on television,
this is true. It might also indicate a parent or boss relationship that is
karmic in nature.
When we look for Kelly's Part of Reincarnation, we find it at 19 Pisces
28 in his seventh house. It is very close to Johnston's eighth house Mars at
21 Pisces. This is a strong suggestion of connection between the two charts.
Kelly's Part of Death at 2 Virgo 49 falls in his own twelfth house. If
you regress this back 11 years to his death as Johnston in 1942, it becomes
21 Leo 49, conjoining Kelly's own twelfth-house Pluto.
Karmic Midpoints
Another method you can use to find karmic links involves the Uranian
formulas for birth and death. To simplify this method, we can use the
formulas without employing a 90-degree dial or the transneptunian planets.
The theory is that when you direct one of these birth or death formulas
forward or backward a number of degrees equal to the number of years between
lives, a significant planet or point should be hit. This is based upon the
idea that our charts express more than our current existence. (For more
about a Uranian approach to past lives, see Maria Kay Simms' Dial Detective,
ACS Publications, San Diego.)
A Uranian death formula that works with the Johnston/Kelly charts is
Uranus plus Neptune minus North Node. In Kelly's chart, this falls at 27
Pisces 24. When you direct this back 11 years from Kelly's birth to Johnston
's death, you arrive at 16 Pisces 24. This falls on Kelly's own Venus at 16
Pisces 20 in the eighth house of his turned chart. This could show a
previous death eleven years before his own birth.
A birth formula that works here is Venus/Uranus. In Johnston's chart,
this midpoint falls at 16 Pisces 44. As you may notice, this is conjunct
Kelly's Venus also. When you direct this forward 11 years to Kelly's birth,
it becomes 27 Pisces 44, right near Johnston's own eighth-house Venus (and
conjunct Kelly's death aspect above.) This shows a very strong connection
between the two charts.
The Aries Point and Your Past
In Uranian astrology, the Aries Point (0 degrees Aries) symbolizes your
connection with the world in general. When you are looking in your chart for
events symbolic of your relation to the world in general, you direct your
age-arc forward or backward from the Aries point to see where they link up
with your natal planets.
From my research, I've concluded that there's an amazing relationship
between the Aries point and the Part of Reincarnation in indicating
intervals between lifetimes.
For instance, there is an 11-year interval between the lives of Johnston
and Kelly. In Kelly's chart, when you direct the Aries Point backward 11
degrees from his birth to Johnston's death, you arrive at 19 Pisces. (0
Aries=360 degrees minus 11 = 349 or 19 Pisces) Kelly's Part of Reincarnation
is 19 Pisces.
In going back to a previous life, you should always measure from your own
birth back to the other's death. Since we are working with a 360-degree
wheel rather than a 90-degree dial, you have to adjust your answers to the
90-degree dial way of thinking. Kelly's Part of Reincarnation in such a dial
would also have been conjunct anything at 19 Virgo (opposite) or 19 Gemini
and 19 Sagittarius (both square) in order to be valid. Just remember that
all planets in cardinal signs are conjunct each other. All fixed Signs are
also conjunct, as are all mutable signs.
You do not necessarily always move backward from the Aries Point in
measuring the years to a past life. In a few charts, I've found that
measuring forward works best. A man who was born in 1927 recalls a past life
as a World War I aviator who died in 1918, nine years before his own birth.
Measuring forward 9 degrees for 9 years, you arrive at 9 Aries. This man's
Part of Reincarnation is opposite at 9 Libra.
What about measuring forward from a previous lifetime chart to verify
that the person you have in mind may have reincarnated at the time of your
birth. You can do this also. But since you must start with a birthchart, you
should measure this from birth year to birth year (rather than back from
birth year to death year) to get the right result.
In the cases we are examining, Johnston was born in 1921, Kelly in 1953.
That is an interval of 32 years. Measuring forward in Johnston's chart from
the Aries Point a distance of 32 years, you will arrive at 2 degrees Taurus.
Since Johnston's Part of Reincarnation is 4 Leo, this is conjunct. (I think
it would be exactly conjunct if Johnston's Ascendant were more accurate.
When you see that a person has been born right on the hour--in this case 5:
00 P.M.--it's right to wonder if that time is not a minute or two off.)
You may find other methods that work better for you. All of our research
in past lives cannot be anything but tentative since we have no absolute
proof. But the case of James Johnston who became Bruce Kelly stands out as a
milestone on the road of discovery in this fascinating field.
r****1
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看了非常有意思,星盘里土太多,缺水会造成心理和情感的恐惧。
你的小仙女形象很好,给你打分了
c****r
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谢谢~~ :)

【在 r****1 的大作中提到】
: 看了非常有意思,星盘里土太多,缺水会造成心理和情感的恐惧。
: 你的小仙女形象很好,给你打分了

c****r
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还是看盘直观一点:
c****r
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这篇文章没有讲潜艇事发当天的transit.我好奇是不是还是和海王星和johnston八宫的
星星有关。果然,那段时间海王星在处女座最后一度对冲本命盘八宫金星。那几天金星
在水瓶座逆行对冲本命盘海王星和上升,冲冥王星,月亮刑海王星刑本命盘金星,火土
,土天合相刑太阳。总之,八宫主星海王,金星有层层刑冲,火星和太阳都受到压制。
r****1
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不用看个体盘,凡是在摩羯最后10度和水瓶前20度出生的人,是土最缺水的时段,在这
区间出生的人,对水都会有莫名的恐惧,几乎都不可能产生水手,游泳名将,跳水运动员
之类的。
有过这期间出生的朋友,对跟水沾边的运动是敬而远之的,但是很喜欢跟地面接触的运
动。
c****r
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我想这解释了kelly的日座是摩羯这一必要条件。(不过johnston是水瓶座的,他就参加
的海军)。
在有恐惧症这个层次(比如他因为不能进浴缸,不能在水边走,不能待在封闭空间(坐
电梯,飞机)等等而看过医生,一般人还没有到这种,我觉得还有更多的东西在盘上。
这篇文章是用past life解释的。
撇开past life,他的盘6宫主星天王在11宫冲摩羯水星
,水星被海王星刑。同时海王星合土星刑太阳。天王星水星和神经系统有关。海王星和
unconciousness,精神疾病有关。和土星联系显示这些方面的weakness。
两个盘中金火天,天水日海始终保持着联系。土星都在2宫,Kelly的土星合Johnston的
北交。这一点也很有意思。Kelly的木星按其他行星的规律似乎应该土星附近或和土星
有相位,确跑到了金牛座刑了北焦点
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