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m*****r
发帖数: 304
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几个问题:
1. Math Olympiad 到底是不是中国的奥数? 学校专门有选拔,组织team, 似乎美国的
这种是竞赛型的,中国的奥数有点个人提高班的意思?
2. Math Olympiad是不是课外活动?孩子除了做题以外, 还做什么?家长需要很帮忙吗
?几年级参加比较好?
3. 和学校教的除了更超前,更深入以外,有没有什么不同? 对提高数学成绩有帮助吗?
4. 如果不是数学天才,但是数学成绩还可以, 建议参加吗?
5. Math Count 又是什么? 又有什么不同?
6. Math Circle 感觉是高大上, 是不是除了数学天才,就免了?
谢谢啦!
h******t
发帖数: 872
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http://www.ipho2015.in/results
Final results of 46th International Physics Olympiad
Rank Name Country Theory Expt Total Medal
1 Taehyoung Kim Republic of Korea 30.0 18.3 48.3 Gold
2 Jingyu Zhao People's Republic of China 29.6 18.5 48.1 Gold
3 Deng Pan People's Republic of China 29.6 18.4 48.0 Gold
3 Sol Kim Republic of Korea 29.0 19.0 48.0 Gold
5 Chua Yee Shuen Darren Republic of Singapore 29.1 18.7 47.8 Gold
6 Chenxing Zhang People's Republic of China 29.3 18.2 47.5 Gold
7 Chung-Yao Cheng Chine... 阅读全帖
m**k
发帖数: 18660
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美国有各种给小学高年级和初中高中的数学竞赛。
math olympiad elementary middle school算一个。
五次考试每次5题。趣味性题为主。
mathcounts6-8年纪。分school,chapter,state national这个很大。电视直播。
有抢答。
math circle or math club才是数学小组。我觉得对提高兴趣是最好的。。如果有好老师

吗?
s*********t
发帖数: 760
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math olympiad elementary middle school
很多地区没有啊。

老师
m*****r
发帖数: 304
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谢谢答疑。另外,请问这个比赛频繁吗?需要家长周末经常开去附近比赛吗?
本来没想过这些问题,但我确实是被孩子的学校同学(和某些推家长),个个想进school
Math Olympiad team,学校又规定了名额,(只有35人), 需要选拔录取, 搞得家长
们都有些不淡定了。
如果确实有好处,当然人人都想孩子参加。不过,至少我们这里,从家长,学校,
maybe even kids 的反应, 感觉好像这个不太同于一般的课外活动,也绝不是只是同
学一起social 一下。
555

老师
m*****r
发帖数: 304
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喜欢竞赛不频繁!
那么,你是不是建议如果想参加初中,高中Math Count, AMC 什么的, 小学还是应该
参加这个Math Olympiad team?
另外,请问到底这数学能推, 能训练吗?训练有用吗? 总觉得,这可不像钢琴,不是
拼小时数,就能达到一定的水平的。不是那块料,做再多的题,还是不开窍吧? 如果
只是一般聪明,放在天才中间,只怕是摧毁孩子的自信心。
t*******r
发帖数: 22634
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另外最最重要的区别是,MOEMS 是一个叫 Dr. George Lenchner 的教授
搞出来的,跟 MAA (Mathematical Association of America) 一毛关
系也没有,就是拿个 Olympiad 的词反正谁都能用。。。AMC/AIME 才是
MAA 的正货。。。
j******n
发帖数: 21641
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来自主题: Australia版 - Games of the XXIX Olympiad - Beijing
Opening Ceremony
9.50pm - 12.59am Seven
Friday 8 August 2008
Seven years of preparation climaxes with China welcoming the world in
celebration of the beginning of the biggest sporting event in 2008, the
Games of the XXIX Olympiad. Host Matthew White will be joined by Bruce
McAvaney, Sandy Roberts, Sonia Kruger and Ric Birch.
m****a
发帖数: 96
r*******n
发帖数: 310
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来自主题: WashingtonDC版 - Blair magnet, RM IB or TJ?
Thanks, Beijing mm. TJ is whole school magnet, while Blair and RM thing is
just partial magnet, it is hard to compare. I copy some of data from Blair
magnet award from 2001 (Blair magnet fundation website). Nearly half Chinese
name, it looks good. Other parents of IB or TJ can you list some of the
awards their students achieved? Thanks.
•2001-02
◦Jennifer Alyano '02, Jean Li '02, and Jacob Burnim '02 named
Finalists in Intel Science Talent Search.
◦Jacob Burnim '02 wins Silver ... 阅读全帖
P******e
发帖数: 1325
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来自主题: Parenting版 - 给大家看一个牛蛙
刚才看哈佛那个著名的math55 wiki词条的时候发现的。
六年参加5次奥数,拿了4块牌,小学六年级就进国家队了。
另外还有一块物理银牌。
天才指数单由奥数来衡量的话,快赶上Terence Tao了。
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherry_Gong
Sherry Gong
Sherry Gong is a graduate student in mathematics at MIT. She is the second U
.S. woman (after Alison Miller won in 2004 [1]) to win a gold medal in the
International Mathematical Olympiad, which Gong won in 2007, earning a tie
for seventh place out of 536 participants[2] (she scored a 32). She was the
only woman on the U.S. team that year, and... 阅读全帖
B**********f
发帖数: 584
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Mathematics and science achievements:
Presidential Scholar
in Academics semifinalist (2011)
Intel Science Talent Search semifinalist (2011)
Siemens Competition,
national fourth place ($30,000 scholarship award, 2010)
International Olympiad of
Linguistics, Stockholm, Sweden (2010) silver medalist — member of the U.S.
team
International Mathematics Olympiad, Astana, Kazakhstan (2010) silver
medalist — member of the U.S. team
Samuel L. Greitzer/Murray S. Klamin Award for Mathematics Excellence for ... 阅读全帖
a*****g
发帖数: 19398
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来自主题: Parenting版 - Weiqi and Math From Singapore (zz)
Weiqi and Math From Singapore (zz)
My child has learned Weiqi for 4+ years. From my experience and what I obser
ved on other Weiqi kids, they have very good school performance, especially
in math.
I don't have any statistic analysis results for these Singapore Weiqi kids,
what I can show you are only some examples of these real kids. During last s
everal years, I have also collected information regarding why and how Weiqi
can improve children's intelligence, concentration, memory ability. I woul... 阅读全帖
a*****g
发帖数: 19398
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Weiqi and Math From Singapore (zz)
My child has learned Weiqi for 4+ years. From my experience and what I obser
ved on other Weiqi kids, they have very good school performance, especially
in math.
I don't have any statistic analysis results for these Singapore Weiqi kids,
what I can show you are only some examples of these real kids. During last s
everal years, I have also collected information regarding why and how Weiqi
can improve children's intelligence, concentration, memory ability. I woul... 阅读全帖
a*****g
发帖数: 19398
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来自主题: Education版 - Weiqi and Math From Singapore (zz)
Weiqi and Math From Singapore (zz)
My child has learned Weiqi for 4+ years. From my experience and what I obser
ved on other Weiqi kids, they have very good school performance, especially
in math.
I don't have any statistic analysis results for these Singapore Weiqi kids,
what I can show you are only some examples of these real kids. During last s
everal years, I have also collected information regarding why and how Weiqi
can improve children's intelligence, concentration, memory ability. I woul... 阅读全帖
s******r
发帖数: 5309
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America just won the world’s hardest math contest. Again.
(Ricky Carioti/The Washington Post)
By Mahbub Majumdar
August 1 at 5:16 PM
Mahbub Majumdar is the national coach for the Bangladesh Mathematical
Olympiad and a professor at BRAC University in Bangladesh.
Last month, the United States made an extraordinary achievement: For the
third time in four years, it won the International Mathematical Olympiad.
This is staggeringly impressive. The Math Olympiad is the hardest and most
prestigious math... 阅读全帖
w********h
发帖数: 12367
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来自主题: Physics版 - 将门虎子阿。。。
US TEAM SCORES FIVE MEDALS AT THE 42nd INTERNATIONAL PHYSICS OLYMPIAD
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Contact: Marilyn Gardner
American Association of Physics Teachers
m******[email protected]
301-209-3306
July 17, 2011 — The traveling members of the US Physics team competed with
393 of the most talented young physicists on the global stage, representing
84 countries, during the 42nd International Physics Olympiad and they
brought home two gold and three silver medals. The Olympiad, held July 10-17
, was sponsor... 阅读全帖
n*******y
发帖数: 3337
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来自主题: NewJersey版 - 学区最新排名
呵呵,这老美是竞赛高手。
Clubs
Varsity Tennis Team, Elected Student Council Member, Computer Programming
League - Founder, Physics League, Calculus League, Science Bowl, Technology
Student Association (TSA), Performing Arts Club, Academic Quiz-Net Team
Experience
U.S. Physics Team (2011 & 2012), MOP (attended 2010 & 2011, qualified 2012),
USAMO (Five Time Qualifier: 2008 -2012), Asia Pacific Mathematics Olympiad
(2010 & 2011), United States of America Computing Olympiad (2010), North
America Computational L... 阅读全帖
a*****g
发帖数: 19398
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The U.S. team’s combined score of 185 edged out the Chinese team’s score
of 181 and the Republic of Korea’s third-place score of 161.
http://www.maa.org/news/us-team-takes-first-place-at-internatio
Chiang Mai, Thailand: The six-person team representing the United States
took first place at the 56th International Mathematical Olympiad (IMO). The
2015 IMO was held in Chiang Mai, Thailand, from July 4 to 13.
IMO scores are based on the number of points scored by individual team
members on six probl... 阅读全帖
t******l
发帖数: 10908
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另外我前面说的 “人之长情” 的真正意思,是说人往往是无法客观 judge 自己的,
你我都一样,或多或少。。。而且我们也不应该强求人去客观地 judge 自己,因为这
往往会增加 depression 的可能性,你我也都一样,或多或少。
但另一方面,每个人都会被其他人/系统所 judge。举个例子就是每个 USA Math
Olympiad / USA Junior Olympiad 等等,都会被 National Percentiles 所 judge,
或多或少。。。这不是人之长情,这是丛林法则。
当然人都有自由选择不 opt-in Olympiad program,这样就只需要人之长情,就不需要
丛林法则。
而版上推天才娃的推妈们往往的问题是在于,推天才娃急不可待的 opt-in 了
Olympiad program,却拒绝接受 National Percentiles 以及 age-related
progression/regression of National Percentiles。。。这种我只能说两个字:“愚
蠢而勤奋的 busyness women”。。。

:楼... 阅读全帖
l*******e
发帖数: 1869
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Chemistry Olympiad Study Camp Finalists Announced
The U.S. National Chemistry Olympiad (USNCO) Program is proud to announce
the 20 finalists who will attend the Chemistry Olympiad Study Camp, June 4-
19, 2013, at the U.S. Air Force Academy, in Colorado Springs, CO. The
students will compete for a spot on the team representing the United States
at the 45th International Chemistry Olympiad in Moscow, Russia, July 15-24,
2013.
The 20 finalists - 16 boys and 4 girls, representing 15 ACS local secti... 阅读全帖
a*****g
发帖数: 19398
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The U.S. team’s combined score of 185 edged out the Chinese team’s score
of 181 and the Republic of Korea’s third-place score of 161.
http://www.maa.org/news/us-team-takes-first-place-at-internatio
Chiang Mai, Thailand: The six-person team representing the United States
took first place at the 56th International Mathematical Olympiad (IMO). The
2015 IMO was held in Chiang Mai, Thailand, from July 4 to 13.
IMO scores are based on the number of points scored by individual team
members on six probl... 阅读全帖
a*****g
发帖数: 19398
23
The U.S. team’s combined score of 185 edged out the Chinese team’s score
of 181 and the Republic of Korea’s third-place score of 161.
http://www.maa.org/news/us-team-takes-first-place-at-internatio
Chiang Mai, Thailand: The six-person team representing the United States
took first place at the 56th International Mathematical Olympiad (IMO). The
2015 IMO was held in Chiang Mai, Thailand, from July 4 to 13.
IMO scores are based on the number of points scored by individual team
members on six probl... 阅读全帖
f**********4
发帖数: 2617
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俺学浅,没什么准备就放了一炮。现在厚着脸皮再回来放一炮。
俺还是熟晚期罗马时代,所以还是以此为例。以前俺提到过的《教会史》的作者
Eusebius of Caesarea,还有一个技术含量更高的著作《编年志》(Chronicon),一
部分经过亚美尼亚文和拉丁文转译流传下来。 他的后人Saint Jerome整理续写成自己
版本的Chronicon,也流传下来,有网上链接:
http://www.tertullian.org/fathers/jerome_chronicle_00_eintro.ht
这里面第一页的intro相信对大家理解/吐槽那个时期的年代确定方法有很大帮助。我
就不再重复翻译全部。只概括一下我的观点:
1. 古代中国史家在时间驾驭上显然如楼主所说有好得多的传统。古典时期的希腊,罗
马典籍著名的经常根本不关心年代。而那些单纯的年代志,我们这样的读者一般难以接
触到或者也没有兴趣。
2. Eusebius的年代志的意义在于用比较合理的办法把他之前的许多年代志链接起来,
摘抄一段intro的原文:
“For instance he was able to determin... 阅读全帖
c*****1
发帖数: 3240
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来自主题: History版 - 奥林匹克运动会与希腊纪年
今晚伦敦奥运会就开幕,正式点说是第三十届现代奥运会在伦敦举行。那么第一届现代
奥运会就应该是2012-(30-1)*4=1896。可是因为一战和二战中间不是停办了三次么
?虽然现代人不能像古希腊那样暂停战争放下武器来跑步比赛,但还是仰慕这一遗风,
为这三届奥运会空出了届目。
希腊古代的纪年也与四年一届雷打不动的古代奥运会有着不小的关系。中国历史中有个
重要的时间起点,共和元年,即公元前841年,史记-十二诸侯年表开始于这一年,一般
认为这是中国有确切记年“信史”的开始。而公元前776年的第一届古代奥林匹克运动
会则被认为是希腊信史的起点。其实奥林匹克运动会这种活动从所谓的神话时代就开始
了,早期是奥林匹亚城的一项传统活动,这也是奥林匹克一词的来源。而BC776这次是
第一次被泛希腊地区接受的奥运会,也是公元前五世纪Hippias记录比赛获胜者的开始
年限。
一个奥林匹克周期是4年,这就相当于中国的干支,而我们的干支周期是60年。于是奥
林匹克纪年(Olympiad year)就是这样 Olympiad 697 Year 4。这就是现在, (2012+
776)/4+1=698?不是69... 阅读全帖
c*****1
发帖数: 3240
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oxthigh (老是肚饿) 于 (Thu Jul 19 12:20:36 2012, 美东) 提到:
欧洲的原始史料可比咱中国的丰富多了,只要你愿意去找
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romo (romo) 于 (Fri Jul 20 00:00:15 2012, 美东) 提到:
行为艺术? 欧洲没有老中那样的典藏制度, 古代历史基本靠编。
一个类似的例子是阿三, 阿三的文明程度科比欧洲高多了, 丫的历史还要靠大唐西域
记来还原。 像欧洲那样突然发现柏拉图的理想国几百万字巨著的厚脸皮程度, 棒子是
差太远了。

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Diaowai (Waiting for suckers rally) 于 (Fri Jul 20 00:17:59 2012, 美东) 提到:
这个算是闭着眼睛给母猪打口红的例子了。
你读过几部欧洲的“原始资料”?
我是看过几本欧洲古典历... 阅读全帖
m**k
发帖数: 18660
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来自主题: Parenting版 - 其实美国学生数学不差
2009 3/6 chinese?
The 2009 U.S. IMO team is:
John Berman
John graduated from John T. Hoggard High School in Wilmington, North
Carolina and will be attending MIT in the fall with a primary interest in
mathematics and physics. He was a recipient of a medal at the Romanian
Masters of Mathematics Contest and he will attend the International
Linguistics Olympiad this summer in Poland. His interests also include
computer science, linguistics, philosophy, and history.
Wenyu Cao
Wenyu is currently a 10t... 阅读全帖
j*******g
发帖数: 118
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来自主题: Parenting版 - 我来回答回答这个北大
发信人: Beida101 (北大学子), 信区: Parenting
标 题: Re: 不得了,美国奥物队60%华裔孩子,教授不愿意教了
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Jun 15 00:34:00 2012, 美东)
First, the selection criteria for Science Olympiad and college admission are
different. The former is one test (or three total tests) determines all
while the latter might consider MANY factors other than test scores.
Second, the purposes of the two events are different. Science Olympiad is
almost a pure competition to find the BEST while college is for education
for the next gene... 阅读全帖
s**********x
发帖数: 4593
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来自主题: NewJersey版 - 来瞧瞧这个名单。。。。 (转载)
【 以下文字转载自 Chemistry 讨论区 】
发信人: cqxz (守,狠,走), 信区: Chemistry
标 题: 来瞧瞧这个名单。。。。
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue May 29 16:14:07 2012, 美东)
老中所向披靡啊,是喜是悲啊
WASHINGTON, DC, May 29, 2012 (MARKETWIRE via COMTEX) -- As students across
the country are leaving academics behind for the summer, fifteen boys and
five girls are doing quite the opposite. They are headed for the U.S. Air
Force Academy in Colorado Springs, Colo., to attend a study camp where they
will compete for a spot on the U.S. International Chemistry Olym... 阅读全帖
s*******a
发帖数: 8827
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【 以下文字转载自 Chemistry 讨论区 】
发信人: cqxz (守,狠,走), 信区: Chemistry
标 题: 来瞧瞧这个名单。。。。
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue May 29 16:14:07 2012, 美东)
老中所向披靡啊,是喜是悲啊
WASHINGTON, DC, May 29, 2012 (MARKETWIRE via COMTEX) -- As students across
the country are leaving academics behind for the summer, fifteen boys and
five girls are doing quite the opposite. They are headed for the U.S. Air
Force Academy in Colorado Springs, Colo., to attend a study camp where they
will compete for a spot on the U.S. International Chemistry Olym... 阅读全帖
j*******7
发帖数: 6300
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来自主题: Wisdom版 - 借着那个法师的帖子喊两句
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thallus_(historian)#The_fragments_
Early Christian use of Thallus
The 9th-century Christian chronologer George Syncellus cites Sextus Julius
Africanus as writing in reference to the darkness mentioned in the synoptic
gospels as occurring at the death of Jesus:
Thallus calls this darkness an eclipse of the Sun in the third book of his
Histories.
Africanus then goes on to point out that an eclipse cannot occur at Passover
when the moon is full and therefore diametrical... 阅读全帖
Y**u
发帖数: 5466
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bluedaddy (你好好) 于 (Tue Aug 14 12:59:23 2012, 美东) 提到:
先请大家放下自己佛教和基督教的身份,心平气和的讨论一下各自宗教的特点。
或许应该说自己信仰的特点。无论是佛教基督教都是想让世界更美好,人类更和谐。
我自己生长在北京,21岁来美国前也没接受过基督教。
但是佛教的经文和语句,我觉得很有智慧,、耐人寻味。
也时不时拜拜。希望祝福和慈悲能存在我身上。
首先我要说,从某种角度说有信仰的人是有福的。不论你信的是什么,你都承认了人的
渺小
谦卑下来,知道有个神。这比无神论者进步了很多。人如果认为空气,阳光,春夏秋冬
这些都是
大爆炸而来的,那么就太,,,
其次,我们怎么知道我们各自信的神就是那位神呢,那位能救我们的神,我们怎么能知
道,
他给我们的道就是正确的道,是救我们脱离苦海的道呢?这个问题只能从感受讲,不能
证明。
神的道路高过我们的道路,神的意念高过我们的意念。我们不能证明有神,就像蚂蚁证
明不了
人类有计算机一样。
我具体来讲一下我个人所认知的基... 阅读全帖
c**z
发帖数: 1014
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来自主题: Chemistry版 - 来瞧瞧这个名单。。。。
老中所向披靡啊,是喜是悲啊
WASHINGTON, DC, May 29, 2012 (MARKETWIRE via COMTEX) -- As students across
the country are leaving academics behind for the summer, fifteen boys and
five girls are doing quite the opposite. They are headed for the U.S. Air
Force Academy in Colorado Springs, Colo., to attend a study camp where they
will compete for a spot on the U.S. International Chemistry Olympiad Team.
During the camp, the students will receive college-level training, with an
emphasis on organic chemistry, throug... 阅读全帖
u****n
发帖数: 7521
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Rex Xia from Northern Secondary School, Melody Guan from the University of
Toronto Schools, Run Ze Cao from Martingrove Collegiate and Qingda Hu from
the Ontario Science Centre School represented Canada at the International
Biology Olympiad in South Korea in July.
Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2010/07/27/f-biology-olympiad-canada.html#ixzz0vIYsKOvu
a*******8
发帖数: 151
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热烈祝贺
格雷斯高的儿子
Yang Liu Patil
为美国赢得奥数金牌!
Indian-origin students help US win Math Olympiad after 21 yrshttp://www.thehindu.com/news/international/world/math-olympiad-won-by-us-team-of-indianorigin-students/article7437703.ece
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来自主题: WorldNews版 - 2009 IMO Results,北朝鲜排第五呀!
【 以下文字转载自 Mathematics 讨论区 】
发信人: msxiong (熊熊), 信区: Mathematics
标 题: 2009 IMO Results,北朝鲜排第五呀!
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Aug 18 12:57:55 2009, 美东)
From http://www.ams.org/news/home-news.html
China finished first in the 50th International Mathematical Olympiad (IMO),
which was held in Bremen, Germany. This is China's fifth first-place finish
in the last six Olympiads. The team from China finished with 221 points, out
of a possible 252, with each team member earning a gold medal. Japan
finished second,
w*********r
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【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: ubcumn (Minnehaha), 信区: Military
标 题: 4个全是华人 - 加拿大生物奥赛队
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Jul 31 17:37:56 2010, 美东)
Rex Xia from Northern Secondary School, Melody Guan from the University of
Toronto Schools, Run Ze Cao from Martingrove Collegiate and Qingda Hu from
the Ontario Science Centre School represented Canada at the International
Biology Olympiad in South Korea in July.
Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2010/07/27/f-biology-olympiad-canada.html#ixzz0vIYsKOvu
B******1
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First, the selection criteria for Science Olympiad and college admission are
different. The former is one test (or three total tests) determines all
while the latter might consider MANY factors other than test scores.
Second, the purposes of the two events are different. Science Olympiad is
almost a pure competition to find the BEST while college is for education
for the next generation.
Third, if you think that a top university full of Asian is the solution to
social problems, maybe you should ... 阅读全帖
z****0
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来自主题: Parenting版 - 问问支持AA的各位
看看北大学子是如何看的,还是中英对照的。
顺便说一句:我看他“preferred language”用多了,中文确实成问题了。
发信人: Beida101 (北大学子), 信区: Parenting
标 题: Re: 不得了,美国奥物队60%华裔孩子,教授不愿意教了
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Jun 15 00:34:00 2012, 美东)
First, the selection criteria for Science Olympiad and college admission are
different. The former is one test (or three total tests) determines all
while the latter might consider MANY factors other than test scores.
Second, the purposes of the two events are different. Science Olympiad is
almost a pure competition t... 阅读全帖
B******1
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Copied from the DC board, written by rockhunan (Xiang Lao)
- - - - - -
For those have missed, the following was copied from CC (College
Confidential) board:
Awards (ranked 10-0, 10 is the most impressive):
10 - D1 athlete, IMO/IPHO/ICHO/IBO medals, Intel (top 10), Siemens National
Winner/National Finalists, ISEF top 3 Grand Prize, Published in Nature or
Science
9 - Siemens Westinghouse (finalists), MOP, Intel Finalist, NFL Nationals
winner (speech and debate), RSI
8 - TASP, USPhO/USChO/USABO/USA... 阅读全帖
u*****7
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来自主题: Parenting版 - Support Asian American students!!!
我觉得作者这个图其实很能说明问题,只是解释和分析不够深入,有点jump into
conclusion太快,所以易引起反驳。我来试着反驳一下你的反驳。
按你说的,这是作者的结论:作者依照上图说:亚裔 18 岁到 21 岁的人数在 1991 到
2011 增加很多,已经加倍了。但亚裔学生在绝大部分长春藤学校中的百分比例只是持
平,没有太大变化。结论:亚裔被歧视了。我觉得这个结论是对的。
你的反驳(1):白人,黑人,西班牙裔 18 岁到 21 岁的人数在 1991 到 2011 可能
也增加很快, ,其增长的人数可能远远超过亚裔增长的人数,尤其是西班牙裔。这些
族裔的学生在绝大部分长春藤学校中的百分比例,可能也只是持平,没有太大变化。他
们也被歧视了?
常春藤名校招生是号称不考虑race的,所以应该跟族裔人口基数无关,跟申请人客观上
qualify没有它的入学标准有关。如果一个常春藤名校每年招1000新生,并且纯粹以每
个申请人是否qualify德智体美劳综合因素来衡量的,那么如果一个族裔的适龄申请人
大大增加比如说翻倍了,增加的那部分人里qualify这个招生标准的会不会更多,这是
个需... 阅读全帖
y*****y
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来自主题: Parenting版 - Obama admin encourages colleges to use race
Beida, i am not sure what is your agenda here using these irrelevant cases
to prove there is no discrimination against Asians in college admissions.
Statistical Evidence of Discrimination Against Asians
Three main sources of data contend that selective colleges discriminate
against Asians
First, some top colleges have in the past (though not recently) released
detailed admissions data. Second, in 1996 California banned state
universities from considering race and ethnicity in admissions decision... 阅读全帖
u*****7
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来自主题: Parenting版 - Obama admin encourages colleges to use race
我觉得作者这个图其实很能说明问题,只是解释和分析不够深入,有点jump into
conclusion太快,所以易引起反驳。我来试着反驳一下你的反驳。
按你说的,这是作者的结论:作者依照上图说:亚裔 18 岁到 21 岁的人数在 1991 到
2011 增加很多,已经加倍了。但亚裔学生在绝大部分长春藤学校中的百分比例只是持
平,没有太大变化。结论:亚裔被歧视了。我觉得这个结论是对的。
你的反驳(1):白人,黑人,西班牙裔 18 岁到 21 岁的人数在 1991 到 2011 可能
也增加很快, ,其增长的人数可能远远超过亚裔增长的人数,尤其是西班牙裔。这些
族裔的学生在绝大部分长春藤学校中的百分比例,可能也只是持平,没有太大变化。他
们也被歧视了?
常春藤名校招生是号称不考虑race的,所以应该跟族裔人口基数无关,跟申请人客观上
qualify没有它的入学标准有关。如果一个常春藤名校每年招1000新生,并且纯粹以每
个申请人是否qualify德智体美劳综合因素来衡量的,那么如果一个族裔的适龄申请人
大大增加比如说翻倍了,增加的那部分人里qualify这个招生标准的会不会更多,这是
个需... 阅读全帖
x**8
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来自主题: Parenting版 - [bssd]刚才哭了,儿子被怀疑自闭
自闭要看是那种。有一种让人非常地focus, 那是一种真正的天赋!
具体例子就是做数学的Evan O’Dorney:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evan_O%27Dorney
Evan O’Dorney: Evan is homeschooled through Venture School in California.
He takes math classes at University of California, Berkeley. Among his
numerous honors are Scripps National Spelling Bee champion (2007), Bay Area
Math Olympiad grand prize (2007, 2009, 2010), USAMO winner (2008), IMO
silver medalist (2008, 2009), and Intel International Science and
Engineering Fair finalist (2010). He ... 阅读全帖
t*******r
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USAMO 是指 United States Math Olympiad。。。我类比生造了 FRAMO,指 France
Math Olympiad。。。
top 100 list 指 National top 100 list。。。
你不常来这个版,这个版上说到 top xxx list,如果不加修饰语,缺省是指 National
top xxx list。。。当然如果是新加坡这种鼻屎国,那发帖看帖时自己酌情打个折。
。。
c*****k
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因为最近在看学区房,就和手下几个20几岁的Ivy League本科毕业生进行了一些探讨,
觉得他们的想法和经历对正在选学校的家长或许有可借鉴之处,所以把谈话记录拿来分
享。
我:你觉得Bronxville和Scarsdale哪个更好呢?
小D(白人男孩,去年Ivy本科毕业,高中在Westchester的公立学校):当然是
Scarsdale,我们当时参加Science Olympiad,主要的竞争对手是Scarsdale,没注意到
Bronxville的队。也许他们也参加了,只是队不强,没有引起注意。
我:听说Scarsdale竞争太激烈了。你有什么看法?
小D: 我听说过一些不太好的故事,比如学生偷了图书馆的书,好让别人借不到书而不
能好好复习,以及考试作弊。在竞争激烈的地方,也不奇怪。
我:既然Ivy League在Westchester各个小区的录取比例相对平均,是不是上一个
lesser school其实更容易获得录取呢?这样也不会对小孩有undue pressure。
小D:但是强的学校,比如Scarsdale,会有很好的资源。学校有很好的老师和学科竞赛
教练,这个是很重要... 阅读全帖
c*****k
发帖数: 29
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因为最近在看学区房,就和手下几个20几岁的Ivy League本科毕业生进行了一些探讨,
觉得他们的想法和经历对正在选学校的家长或许有可借鉴之处,所以把谈话记录拿来分
享。
我:你觉得Bronxville和Scarsdale哪个更好呢?
小D(白人男孩,去年Ivy本科毕业,高中在Westchester的公立学校):当然是
Scarsdale,我们当时参加Science Olympiad,主要的竞争对手是Scarsdale,没注意到
Bronxville的队。也许他们也参加了,只是队不强,没有引起注意。
我:听说Scarsdale竞争太激烈了。你有什么看法?
小D: 我听说过一些不太好的故事,比如学生偷了图书馆的书,好让别人借不到书而不
能好好复习,以及考试作弊。在竞争激烈的地方,也不奇怪。
我:既然Ivy League在Westchester各个小区的录取比例相对平均,是不是上一个
lesser school其实更容易获得录取呢?这样也不会对小孩有undue pressure。
小D:但是强的学校,比如Scarsdale,会有很好的资源。学校有很好的老师和学科竞赛
教练,这个是很重要... 阅读全帖
r****t
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来自主题: SanDiego版 - TJ 申请的题外话 (转载)
【 以下文字转载自 WashingtonDC 讨论区 】
发信人: Beida101 (北大学子), 信区: WashingtonDC
标 题: TJ 申请的题外话
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Nov 22 09:24:25 2012, 美东)
今儿闲着也是闲着,就侃一个 TJ 攻略。其实对考大学都通用。话说 TJ 入学申请,有
几个评估点(及所占评估比例):
1)入学考试成绩 (数学成绩,20%)
2)两篇短文 (25%)
3)中学GPA (数学和科学课目,15%)
4)学生信息表(类似 RESUME,20%)
5)两封老师推荐信 (20%)
无庸讳言,首先孩子的中学成绩要出色,尤其是数学和科学课程的成绩一定要名列前矛
。但是也不要偏科,以免总成绩掉档。
其次,和老师搞好关系,找到几个对孩子知根知底,也喜欢孩子的老师,以后可以联系
给孩子写推荐信。
再者,让孩子坚持写作训练,吃透 TJ 短文的考试方式及高分策略。必要时,请家教辅
导,强化写作训练。
最后,对孩子的强弱项有一个清醒的认识,取长补短。长处,无限扩大;短处,尽力弥
补(或隐藏)。
下面着重讲一下长期准备计划... 阅读全帖
l******l
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来自主题: SanFrancisco版 - 求tutor
They just teased you.
Are you going to pay Cuiyi, say $5000~$1,000/hr for the tutoring?
Go find some senior Chemistry undergraduate students with good grades and
recently took Chemistry GRE, so they have general concept refresh.
Those from Stanford or Berkeley Chemistry would be nice.
You can go to the campus, pose some notes on the Chemistry Building.
There was a good Math Olympiad teacher in Cupertino a couple years ago. He
used to one of the coaches of Chinese Math Winter Camp for Olympiad. N
B******1
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Logical fallacies:
Slippery Slope
False Analogy
First, the selection criteria for Science Olympiad and college admission are
different. The former is one test (or three total tests) determines all
while the latter might consider MANY factors other than test scores.
Second, the purposes of the two events are different. Science Olympiad is
almost a pure competition to find the BEST while college is for education
for the next generation.
Third, if you think that a top university full of Asian is t... 阅读全帖
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