l*******o
发帖数: 12469 | 1 2014预选赛对玻利维亚（主）和哥伦比亚（客）
蒂玛丽亚好像受伤一个月，不过主场碰到玻利维亚山西球王能刷数据。。。
守门员
Sergio Romero (Sampdoria Gêns/ITA), Mariano Andujar (Catania/ITA), Agustin
Orion (Boca Juniors)
后卫
Martin Demichelis (Malaga/ESP), Nicolas Burdisso (AS Roma/ITA), Federico
Fernandez (Naples/ITA), Luciano Monzon (Nice/FRA), Pablo Zabaleta (
Manchester City/ENG), Marcos Rojo (Spartak/RUS), Leandro Desabato (
Estudiantes de La Plata), Clemente Rodriguez (Boca Juniors).
中场
Javier Mascherano (Barcelona/ESP), Ever Banega (Valência/ESP), Fer... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 2508 | 2 我就说肯定转，关Gol TV毛事
12/10 3:50 PM EST Real Madrid vs. Barcelona (ENG) ESPN3
12/10 3:50 PM EST Real Madrid vs. Barcelona (SPA) ESPN3
16：9 720P 比 4：3标清的Gol TV清楚多了，爽！！！ |
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l*******o
发帖数: 12469 | 3 some guy left a comment on goal.com,...
Fan distribution for El Clasico:
supporting Real Madrid - Real, Arsenal, Inter, Chelsea and Man Utd fans
supporting Barcelona - Barcelona fans and everyone else
他这个说法准不准。。。 |
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l*********0
发帖数: 2508 | 4 显然不准：
supporting Barcelona - Barcelona fans
supporting Real Madrid - everyone else
都是人嘛，换谁都能理解 |
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m******k
发帖数: 2390 | 6 Real Madrid - FC Barcelona Copa del Rey - 1/4 1st leg Wed 01-18-2012 22:00
FC Barcelona - Real Madrid Copa del Rey - 1/4 2nd leg Wed 01-25-2012 22:00 |
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发帖数: 10182 | 7 7 hours ago
Real Madrid's Pepe ready to play in midfield against Barcelona
"Whether I'll play in midfield again? The coach will know what to do against
Barcelona. I'm always available to help Madrid," Pepe told AS. |
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发帖数: 10182 | 8 "We are talking about Barca's current team, but we do not remember that
Santos, during the 60s, had a fantastic team which could have dominated the
world under similar circumstances."
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Brazil legend Pele: My Santos team could have dominated the world like Pep
Guardiola's Barcelona
The often-controversial South American has claimed his former team could
have achieved the same stellar success as the current Blaugrana side, and
hailed Lionel Messi's talent
Brazil legend Pele... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 12469 | 9 主教头沙比拉找的人：
Sergio Romero (Sampdoria, Italia), Hugo Campagnaro (Nápoli, Italia),
Daniel Diaz (Getafe, España), Federico Fernández (Nápoli, Italia),
Pablo Zabaleta (Manchester City, Inglaterra), Luciano Monzón (Niza, Francia
), Ezequiel Garay (Benfica, Portugal), Marcos Rojo (Spartak Moscú, Rusia),
Di María, Ángel (Real Madrid-España), Javier Mascherano (
Barcelona, España), Fernando Gago (Roma, Italia), Erik Lamela (Roma,
Italia), José Sosa (Metalist, Ucrania), Maximiliano Rod... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1150 | 11 A2 说对了，这个裁判”has a great personality"。
http://www.goal.com/en/news/1716/champions-league/2012/04/04/30
Barcelona-Milan referee pleased with match officials' performance
The man in charge during Tuesday's Champions League encounter at Camp Nou
has affirmed that he is satisfied with his display and has been receiving
compliments
The Dutch referee has received his fair share of criticism for his decision
to award the Catalans a second penalty after Alessandro Nesta's infringement
on Sergio Busquets ... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 29495 | 12 Platini 被点名了
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/1044837/benfica-pr
to-protest-after-european-exit-to-chelsea?cc=5901
Benfica president Benfica president vows to protest
April 5, 2012
By ESPNsoccernet staff
Benfica president Luis Felipe Vieira has described his team's Champions Leag
ue exit to Chelsea as "an outrage" and vowed to protest to the Portuguese Fo
otball Federation.
Referee Damir Skomina shows Maxi Pereira a red card during the first half at
Stamford Bridge
Chelsea, having wo... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 2165 | 13 欣口开和的点范
煤西踢了３０多场才５个点球， 西罗１１个。 还剩６场。 每西平君每场比西罗多近
一个点球才能追平， 更何况超过。
还保守估计？
LA LIGA 2011-2012 Top Scorers
LEADING LA LIGA GOAL SCORERS
Players TEAM GOALS PENALTIES
Cristiano Ronaldo Real Madrid 40 11
Lional Messi Barcelona 39 5
Radamel Falcao
Atletico Madrid 21 5
Gonzalo Higuain Real Madrid 18 0
Karim Benzema Real Madrid 16 0
Roberto Soldado Valencia 15 1
Cesc Fàbregas Barcelona 6 0
Imanol Agirretxe Real Sociedad 3 0
【 在 HOTDELL (干爹) 的大作中提到: 】 |
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g******t
发帖数: 18158 | 14 足球这项运动，历史和现实中都有很多失误和争议，只能做到基本公平，差不多，大概
齐。无法容忍这样的失误和争议的看客们，应该去看国际象棋或者围棋，那些运动的争
议比较小。
欧冠第一腿中的失误和争议也不少的，举几个我所知道的例子，火山灰那次大国主场对
巴萨是第一腿，大国第一个进球是越位球。今年AC对巴萨的第一腿，桑切斯被米兰守门
员扑倒，那种情况下判点球是很正常的事，当然有时候也会不判。在斯坦福桥惨案之前
的第一腿，Bosingwa在禁区内双手拉倒正要射门的Henry，没有点球，比赛继续，一分
钟后Puyol吃到第二张黄牌无缘第二腿的比赛。这些都是可以影响最终结果的失误或者
争议。
这几个例子没有引起很大反响的原因有：第一腿不是决定性的，后面还有一场比赛。另
外战斗力超强的萨黑们选择性失明，没有奔走呼号，哭天抢地，所以没有造成很大的影
响。
看这图，比前两天的版标强大多了
http://barcelona.footballblog.co.uk/barcelona-0-0-chelsea.html
73 minutes gone and Barca were denied a stonewal... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 7947 | 15 受sill univid等讨论启发：
建议推论到
“有效射门比”＝ (shot) / (possession % )，越高越说明该球队进攻意愿坚决
“有效tackle比” ＝ （tackle）/ (possession %)，越高越说明该队防守强度大。
当然还有已经提到的有效犯规比，看谁更爱犯规等。
总之把所有数据都除以控球时间比后再对双方比较，可以看出双方在单位控球时间内的
进攻强度，或者单位无球时间内的防守强度。
应把巴萨梦2队和目前巴萨进行这些数据的比较，即可以看出谁更喜欢进攻。
－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－
举例：
1。09年 chelsea vs barca 1：1
Chelsea Barcelona
13(4) Shots (on Goal) 14(1)
16 Fouls 17
6 Corner Kicks 6
5 Offsides 0
29% Time of Possession 71%
4 Yellow Cards 3
0 Red Cards 1
有效数据：
进攻强度：shot／（... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 7947 | 16 加了两个例子说明：
－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－
举例：
1。09年 chelsea vs barca 1：1
Chelsea Barcelona
13(4) Shots (on Goal) 14(1)
16 Fouls 17
6 Corner Kicks 6
5 Offsides 0
29% Time of Possession 71%
4 Yellow Cards 3
0 Red Cards 1
有效数据：
进攻强度：shot／（possession ％）chelsea 13／29 远高于barca 14／71，2倍多
防守干净程度： fouls ／ （possession ％）chelsea 16 ／71（71％是无球状态）也
远高于 barca 17／29。
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2。今天chelsea vs barca 1：0
Chelsea Barcelona
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发帖数: 10182 | 17 Heynckes: Drogba is a top striker but also an outstanding actor
The Ivorian has long been criticised for the ease with which he goes to
ground, and the Bavarians' coach feels it is something his players must be
aware of at the Allianz Arena
he Ivorian is now 34 but he proved in the Blues' semi-final success over
Barcelona that he remains one of the most fearsome forwards in the game.
Heynckes has warned his defenders that they will have to maintain both their
focus and their composure - in the f... 阅读全帖 |
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e*******e
发帖数: 9616 | 18 补充一个，上世纪初里接卡而德和他的师傅老白都先后（或后先）指教过barcelona,那
时候barcelona就已经被内行人所注目。当然看热闹的球迷依然是看millan/MU/Real啥
的。
荷兰血统的荷为西用１０年后才结出硕果。 |
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A***d
发帖数: 4037 | 19 这样如何
Real Madrid vs Chelsea
Barcelona/Valencia vs Manchester City (如果出现的话)
Valencia/Barcelona vs Arsenal |
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s******n
发帖数: 2279 | 20 弗朗西斯科利都知道吧
Francescoli: Barcelona's Messi better than Maradona
The 50-year-old has revealed his admiration for the Catalans forward who he
says is better than El Diego and had kind words for Zinedine Zidane
Enzo Francescoli, one of the greats of Uruguayan football, has hailed Lionel
Messi as the greatest player ever, surpassing Diego Maradona.
The 50-year-old was speaking as a guest on the television programme Por
Deporte in Argentina and lauded both footballers.
But it was the current Barcelona... 阅读全帖 |
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g******t
发帖数: 18158 | 21
有时候吃了亏的没赢球，也会被忽略。09年巴萨大车第一腿，漏判一个点球呢。那个点
球如果判了，普约也不会在一分种后得黄牌缺席第二腿。有一部分是选择性失明的，一
部分是记忆力不够好的，还一部分人云亦云的。
http://barcelona.footballblog.co.uk/barcelona-0-0-chelsea.html
73 minutes gone and Barca were denied a stonewall penalty when Eto’o got
the ball on the left-hand edge of the area and slipped it into the centre
for Henry, who was just about to get a shot in when Bosingwa tugged his arm
and pulled him down, however the referee unbelievably waved play on. A
minute later Puyol was booked for a needl... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 349 | 22 In those 5 finals, Real Madrid beat the best French team
Stade de Reims twice, Frankfurt, AC Milan, and Fiorentina
once each.
Besides those games, AC Milan reached the semi final of 55-56,
enjoyed a 1-7 to Barcelona in 59-60. Juve represented Italy
in 58-59, and got the great 0-7. To help idiots who can't
count, Italy sent Serie A champions into Euro Cup games
EVERY year. The same was true for France, Germany, and
the mighty Portuguese at that time. Juve was either unable
to qualify or got slau... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 8613 | 23
我只看了很少几场比赛。
CR踢任意球过多，力度大但是曲度过小（经常踢到人墙）。射门方式过于单一，比较容
易被守门员判断好。在有任意球的情况下，他应该少直接踢，而要等传球或找第二次进
球的机会。
特别能长传、能帮助和参与全方位进攻的Marcelo不在。
大前锋位置球员有伤或者不稳定。CR要得分的压力特别大。
边锋的进球成功率一般比中锋的低。
远射的进球成功率比近射的低。
不应该与以控球和打小球配合最出色、而有更多短射机会的Barcelona比。Barcelona的
前几个得分手进球成功率都特别高。 |
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发帖数: 8613 | 24
没什么抬高的。Bayern在德甲打基本上也是毫无悬念，而且在对Real Madrid的两场比
赛中表现稍微比RM强。虽然橘子和橙子不好完全比，但是可以说Bayern与Barcelona相
差没有多少。47-52左右吧？Barcelona的控球好，但是Bayern得球后的攻防的效率稍微
高些。 |
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e*******e
发帖数: 9616 | 25 你们说的柏佳骏是不是这个类型的？
甚高也就相差几厘米，不太出名，但是防守好用
Javier Mascherano
Javier Alejandro Mascherano is an Argentine footballer who plays as a
central defender for FC Barcelona and a defensive midfielder for Argentina
national team. Mascherano began his career at River Plate. Wikipedia
Born: June 8, 1984 (age 28), San Lorenzo
Height: 5' 9" (1.74 m)
Weight: 163.1 lbs (74 kg)
Spouse: Fernanda Mascherano (m. 2008)
Children: Lola Mascherano, Alma Mascherano
Teams: FC Barcelona (#14 / Midfielder), Argentina national... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 8613 | 26
是有一段时间。我不觉得他在那个位置很突出，虽然他在Barcelona打的位置在9与10之
间（离10不是特别远）。他在Barcelona的位置更适合他。
比他们差，因为他们的位置需要更大的视野和更长距离的分传球。让Messi的能力得到
最大发挥，需要允许他有更多的时间低头过人或者短距离传球。粗略地说：Messi配合
队友的球主要是在小场。 |
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发帖数: 8613 | 27 （不提空间球）Barcelona最强在中场，他们在前场和中场丢球后会马上施压联防（因
此犯规次数也多），让控球队员看不到空间或者。对付他们的打法，最好有Laudrup,
Giggs或者Beckham那样大局观特别好、也非常善于deep pass的中场领袖，这样更有可
能避重就轻、直接攻击Barcelona队中最弱的一线：后卫线。 |
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w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 28 绝不至于。Barcelona是11对一个要降级队的10。
CR在新年里的表现并不比Messi差。Real Madrid在有若干主要队员有伤或者被判罚的情
况下，全队表现算非常好的了。现在的Real Madrid特别需要CR能在场上发挥。
没有什么伤员的Barcelona即使缺了Messi，仍然会是很强的队。 |
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w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 29 这个版讨论Barcelona的确过多了。
Barcelona是非常特别的队：矮人出奇地多，但是这些人在地面上的各方面技术都特别
好。如果把他们分散到其它强队以后，他们中一部分人的价值很可能会明显降低。几年
以后恐怕很难再凑出这种超级球队，在欧洲也不会有多少教练去发展风格相似的球队。 |
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g******t
发帖数: 18158 | 30 要想纠正“谈西甲尤其是Barcelona过多”的问题很简单，就是你们多发一些谈论其他
联赛，其他强队，其他风格的帖子，而不是苦口婆心地劝告别人少谈论西甲尤其是
Barcelona。如果你肯发一些包子，效果就更好了 |
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A**d
发帖数: 13310 | 31 又一个人品低下的贱逼艺术队扇子，别对号入座哦，我说的是这个video被推到
top comment那个贱逼id lcpvmp.丫自称“I was a Real Madrid fan
since I was a child... I hope one day Real returns to the
values that it exhibited when Zidane and Ronaldo Nazario
were there.”
结果怎么样，it在youtube like一大堆艺术队的东西，勉强跟皇马沾边的
是CR dive和煤球对皇马进球集锦。这种冒充别家扇子的贱逼在艺术粉群体里
格外多，可能是因为该队擅长表演加人格扭曲，跟这些人对胃口：
Lionel Messi ● Ultimate 'Never Dives' Video ● ||HD||
Barcelona vs Malaga 4-1 All Goals & Highlights Liga BBVA 02.05.2012
★ Tribute to Pep Guardiola - Homenaje a Pep ... 阅读全帖 |
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S****a
发帖数: 209 | 32 发信人: larkshy (草泥马), 信区: WorldSoccer
标 题: 查了一下
发信站: 水木社区 (Thu May 2 05:22:42 2013), 站内
【 以下文字转载自 Barcelona 讨论区 】
发信人: LMessi (LIONEL), 信区: Barcelona
标 题: 查了一下
发信站: 水木社区 (Thu May 2 05:18:03 2013), 站内
欧冠半决赛输球的最大比分纪录是1959-60赛季 法兰克福赢格拉斯哥流浪者，两回合比
分 6-1 6-3 ，总比分12-4。
巴萨输七个还好不是第一，否则就要保持半决赛和决赛输球最多的纪录了 |
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发帖数: 144 | 33 英文翻译来了：
Title：The most selfish Messi leads him to behave like a star whimsical
Barcelona need to Leo Messi. 's the imagination and the soul of the Catalan
team. Without the Argentine game, Barca team suffers, is a different one, is
mutated in a team to vulgar, but everything has a limit and some are
beginning to tire of enduring vagaries and situations that lead to one and
measure of differently. Leo Messi is showing his selfish side in recent
weeks, which has led to berate fellow technicians an... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 144 | 34 http://www.elconfidencial.com/deportes/2013/05/16/el-messi-mas-
Barcelona need to Leo Messi. 's the imagination and the soul of the Catalan
team. Without the Argentine game, Barca team suffers, is a different one, is
mutated in a team to vulgar, but everything has a limit and some are
beginning to tire of enduring vagaries and situations that lead to one and
measure of differently. Leo Messi is showing his selfish side in recent
weeks, which has led to berate fellow technicians and attitude.
In ... 阅读全帖 |
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s****r
发帖数: 5546 | 35 The first post is BS.
"Barcelona was founded on May 1, 1925, by Eutimio Pérez,
a Spanish immigrant who named the club after his home
city of Barcelona. " |
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发帖数: 2165 | 36 The prestigious level of WC is quite different now, due to the over
commercialization especially in the past 15 to 20 years.
There are much more club games then before and players salary is skyrocketed
from 90s till now.
First, the number of games per soccer season increased a lot since the born
of premier league in 1992.
Second, the transfer market becomes much more active, since the Bosnian
verdict in 1995, which allowed more than 3 foreign players per club.
Finally, the arrival of the money l... 阅读全帖 |
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A**4
发帖数: 2165 | 37 厕所的有名望的水平现在是完全不同的，由于过度商业化，特别是在过去15至20年。
也有更多的俱乐部比赛，然后才和球员年薪从90年代到现在猛增。
首先，每赛季足球比赛的数量增加了很多，因为英超联赛在1992年出生的。
其次，在转会市场上变得更加活跃，因为波斯尼亚在1995年的判决，这使得超过3每个
俱乐部的外籍球员。
最后，洗钱的到来，来自俄罗斯和中东，石油寡头的影响开始在2003年或4由Abmovich
在切尔西。
转会记录今天是1亿欧元于1984年，它是大约400万左右的马拉多纳。增加工资和转会费
是远远超越通胀。我不知道有多少，但我怀疑它的通胀会在过去30年的5倍，但转会费
增加了25倍。
作为上述因素的结果，
1。俱乐部球员上投入更多的投资，因此更要求他们的服务。这意味着会有更少的时间
作为一个单位国家队的球员一起训练。
2。 WC是永远的足球赛季之后，现在它的顶级球队像巴萨或皇马的赛季更长。使用CL作
为一个例子，在比赛中，这被称为冠军杯，然后从每个联赛只有一支球队可以参加。这
将意味着只有巴塞罗那和RM可以代表西班牙，MU，MC，切尔西，阿森纳可以代表英格兰
队，意大利队只有一... 阅读全帖 |
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S*******y
发帖数: 7 | 38 Use laces to shoot the ball.
我儿子也是2003的.他每十天和我一起练习3次soccer. 每次90分钟.
第一次 - 传接球.
第二次 - 射门.
第三次 - dribbling, turning, and 1v1 skills.
射门一共3部分.
1) Free kick - inside bending. Before he does it with his dominant foot, I
throw the ball very hard to him. I want him to receive the ball in the air
first. I put a cone at the far end. He needs to kick the ball into the 1
meter area of the net from the line of the 18 yard box. He does it from 3
angles - 85 degrees, 50 degrees, and 35 degrees. He needs to do... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 29495 | 40 The shot-stopper was stretchered off against Celta on Wednesday, casting dou
bt on whether he will play for the Catalans again or be fit for the World Cu
p
Victor Valdes has potentially played for Barcelona for the last time after b
eing stretchered off during his side's Liga encounter with Celta on Wednesda
y.
The Spain international keeper picked up a serious-looking knee injury with
little over after 20 minutes played after diving on a loose ball in the box
having failed to clear a free kick ... 阅读全帖 |
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l*******o
发帖数: 12469 | 42 不要乱说啊。。。
http://blogs.wsj.com/dailyfix/2010/04/20/champions-league-diary
...
One thing that is certainly different is Barcelona’s preparation for the
game. Thanks to the flight restrictions in place over much of Europe because
of fallout from volcanic eruptions in Iceland, Barcelona had to
^^^^^^^^^^^
endure a 14-hour bus ride to Milan, broken with a night in Cannes, in
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^... 阅读全帖 |
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S*****e
发帖数: 6676 | 43 守门员: Julio César (Toronto), Jefferson (Botafogo),Victor (Atlético
Mineiro)
后卫: Dante (Bayern), David Luiz (Chelsea), Henrique (Napoles), Thiago Silva
(PSG), Daniel Alves (Barcelona), Maicon (Roma), Marcelo (Real Madrid),
Maxwell (PSG);
中场: Fernandinho (Manchester City), Hernanes (Inter), Luiz Gustavo (
Wolfsburg), Oscar (Chelsea), Paulinho (Tottenham), Ramires (Chelsea),
Willian (Chelsea);
前锋: Neymar (Barcelona), Bernard (Donetsk Shakhtar), Hulk (Zenit), Jô
(Atlético Mineiro) ,Fred (Flumin... 阅读全帖 |
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f*******9
发帖数: 723 | 44 剧情是跌宕起伏的，这是六个月前的报道。
http://www.marca.com/2013/12/16/en/football/barcelona/138721179
Messi Jr. and Sr. cleared of money laundering allegations
Investigators have dismissed reports surrounding the alleged involvement of
Lionel Messi, his father (and agent) Jorge Messi and several other Barcelona
players in the drug money laundering scandal being looked into by the
Spanish Guardia Civil (Civil Guard).
According to sources close to the investigation, the enquiry is part of a
Guardia Civil-led operat... 阅读全帖 |
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s******f
发帖数: 3984 | 45 Mourinho语录
"We won the tie in Barcelona but everyone talks about Barcelona winning and
says we parked the bus in front of the goal. We didn't park the bus, we
parked the plane and we did it for two reasons. One, because we only had 10
men and two, because we beat them 3-1 at San Siro, not by parking the bus,
or the boat or the airplane but by smashing them." |
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z*a
发帖数: 1681 | 46 Most expensive summer transfers involving British clubs this summer
Player From To Amount (£m)
David Luiz
Chelsea
Paris St-Germain
40
Alexis Sanchez
Barcelona
Arsenal
35
Diego Costa
Atletico Madrid
Chelsea
32
Cesc Fabregas
Barcelona
Chelsea
30
Ander Herrera
Athletic Bilbao
Manchester United
29
Luke Shaw
Southampton
Manchester United
27
Adam Lallana
Southampton
Liverpool
25
Fernando
Porto
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M****i
发帖数: 52 | 47 More and more details are emerging from the new book on PepGuardiola,Pep
Confidential: The Inside Story of PepGuardiola's First Season atBayern
Munich.It's fitting that on the 10-year anniversary of LionelMessi's
senior Barcelona debut, a fascinating story aboutMessi's positional change
surfaced.
ViaThe Telegraph, in author Marti Perarnau's study ofGuardiola
for the book, he was told a story about howGuardioladecided to move
Messifrom the wing into the "false-nine" position in 2009.
And that's w... 阅读全帖 |
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d*****0
发帖数: 68029 | 49 After Barcelona confirmed interest, Manchester City have reportedly raised
their Paul Pogba offer to 82.9m.
Juventus continue to assure they have no intention of parting with the
French midfielder, but he remains the hottest property on the world transfer
market.
His agent rated him at 100m and clubs are pushing closer and closer to
that magic number.
Today’s edition of The Sun claims that Manchester City have made an offer
worth 60m (82.9m) for Pogba.
This is a slight increase onthe 80m reporte... 阅读全帖 |
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w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 50
barcelona过去确实比较弱，根本无法与Real Madrid比，击败Real Madrid拿到国王杯
在当时是一大成就。多亏你提起。
Barcelona真正崛起是靠Cruyff。 |
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