g*******a
发帖数: 1383 | 1 go to applyboard and reply my post!!
all two-wheelers are welcome, that includes mt. bikers, road
bikers, scooters etc etc... |
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g*******a
发帖数: 1383 | 2 bikers are the nicest people you can find. if you ever come to a biker
rally you'll find how friendly they are. in the contrast, last year i
was at the famous south beach hiphop music fest, kid, if you've been
there you'll appreciate much much much more about what i'm trying to
say - they are the worst people i ever met. i guess i'm not having
problem w/ people to show off, but i have problem when people gave me
taht kind of hostile look. if you ever lived in atlanta, i bet you
don't want to get |
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k*****e
发帖数: 22013 | 3 你太土了
biker/leather也是一大gay的fetish
gay pride parade一般都是biker方队打头阵。
gay man起来比直男man多了 |
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T1
发帖数: 4732 | 4 中国人真他妈的孤陋寡闻，在美国leather/biker早就是gay的象征了，就跟穿pink
shirt差不多，现在str8 biker都会担心被认为是gay |
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f****p
发帖数: 18483 | 5
只要一冲动，你马上万劫不覆。在美国，你都不可以随便动手的，只要有所表示，对方
就可以sue你的。有时候吃亏不一定是坏事。在高速上，你没准就遇到个asshole，聪明
的办法是躲开。在美国，那种骑摩托的带头巾的叫做biker的家伙不好惹，他们是一群
一群的，晚上泡bar，他们手里很多都有枪，很横的那种，都是大块头，在雷子那里一
般都是挂了号的，好多开18轮的也和他们一样，你难道扔掉你辛辛苦苦考试出来的工作
和身份，走这些biker一样的路么？ |
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m******4
发帖数: 2810 | 6 http://www.ibtimes.com/bikers-attack-suv-gruesome-photos-alexia
Edwin Mises, a biker run over by Alexian Lien's Range Rover, suffered
broken legs and internal injuries.
“They crushed his spine — broke it in two different places — so he will
be forever, forever paralyzed,” said his wife, Dayana Mejia-Meises to CBS
Boston.
However, records show that "Jay Meezee" Mieses never had a valid drivers
license or motorcycle license.
In June, the Massachusetts Registry of Motor Vehicles notified the Nation... 阅读全帖 |
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m********4
发帖数: 1837 | 7 美国媒体很多时候要比天朝还恶心的，你多看看肯定体味的到
这不，就这个时间，100%的视频过程都在，没有办法歪曲的情况下，在99%的美国人民
都骂飞车党的情况下，就能看到这种报道：
PICTURED: Wealthy couple attacked by wild pack of motorcyclists after
harrowing 4-mile chase on the West Side Highway following fender bender
turned hit-and-run — driver fled after running over biker
放上lien家的照片，说wealthy couple，说hit and run说running over biker
这帮美国媒体，大多数美国人都知道他们什么德性，我看facebook，cnn，abc，post上
很多comments都是骂记者准备怎么颠倒黑白报道的 |
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b******g
发帖数: 3883 | 8 看看那个video就知道明显是那个biker先挑衅的，他还回头看着driver然后减速，本来
他好好开自己的车就屁事没有。旁边的人都开的好好的。后来出了事情，车也停了为什
biker要砸车和刺破轮胎而不是和平解决，这种暴力行为当然让人觉得很不安全。我认
为lien的决定很正确，总的来说在当时的紧急情况下算是很好了 |
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S*******r
发帖数: 530 | 10 这两天又有新的消息出来：雷锋叫Seigo什么的，在车停后阻止施暴，有照片显示副驾
玻璃被砸；有同胞说也亲历biker车队，从哪儿上的车，高速上20迈，堵着后面的警车。
看到很多人支持我对路虎男的评价，支持路虎男，还是让人很振奋的。
想再补充两点：
有人说chase的过程中，可以S行，可以急刹车，扩大事端。这显然是不对的，最开始启
动压人是逼不得已，如果后来故意制造伤害，那是主动伤害行为————即使以后jury
判定无罪，但自己的伤人动机已经在那儿了，而且是基于对方都是该死的暴徒判定的—
———我们都痛恨biker，但是也别动不动就说人家该死。
第二个是关于台湾，有人发帖攻击Lien，就因为他是台湾人。都是中华一脉，和其他任
何地区相比，都有着更亲近的文化和传统，在很多历史文化的继承上，台湾比大陆做的
更好。而且，两岸的对立现在只是在政治上，对于百姓来说，两岸同胞是被政治因素分
离的兄弟，是两党权利之争的后果。统一是早晚的事，两岸隔海峡，也就一发炮弹的距
离。打归打，打完了还要建设，不光是楼房城市，还要建设同胞感情。如果是和平统一
，那更是好兄弟。总之一句话，台湾同胞都是兄弟，以前是，以... 阅读全帖 |
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b*********8
发帖数: 24 | 11 尼玛，又是骂架贴，大家可否就事论事！！！这件事里种族成分（即bully亚裔）肯定
是有的，那被压了的bikers是罪有应得。i support what Lien did. I think all of
us should defend us like him. The bikers should be condemned no matter if he
is black/latino/white |
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b*********8
发帖数: 24 | 12 i have to disagree with you in many points for Lien's goodness. Many of
points you heard are just story made by bikers' supporters. Please beware!
1. there is no such video or proof shows that 路虎车单个出来冒泡，不配合飞车
党，不仅打９１１告发飞车党，还坚持在高速上.
2. please also note that news from cnn shows that his wife's voice were
shaking for all of the 911 calls. The couple had no intention to confront
with them. Remember they have a 2 years old daughter in the car. All they
want is to get out of the grave danger situation... 阅读全帖 |
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b*********8
发帖数: 24 | 13 Why the heck the biker goes in front of Lien's car and keep looking back?
You think his intention is out of goodness?
suv is driving at full speed. Who the heck the biker is trying to stop the
suv? he is a police? He is apparently making trouble.
slow |
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l*****9
发帖数: 9501 | 14 It's called cut in & brake, the biker was a jerk. But it doesn't give Lien
the right to bump into the bike. The minute the bike was in front of the SUV
, Lien should have braked hard to safe distance BEFORE biker braked. Lien
was a bigger jerk. |
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t******n
发帖数: 2939 | 15 ☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
SAcruiser (海上的1900) 于 (Fri Oct 4 02:54:24 2013, 美东) 提到:
youtube的视频看了，不知道是不是只有一个。
新闻也简单的了解下，包括追尾，扎胎，碾人，chase，被打，车上的妻儿，中间的报
警，没驾照的残废，其他司机爆料说摩托党经常碰瓷讹诈钱财等等。
后来妻子发声明，没有仔细看。
目前好像是逮捕了几个，说不会起诉路虎司机。
根据以上了解的情况，我完全支持路虎男的做法，从头到尾没有任何做错的地方，也没
有任何处理方式能比他当时做到的更保险。
最关键的一点是：追尾后停下来，该不该开车碾人？有人说这是导致后来事故的原因，
不应该。
请设身处地的为路虎男想一想，坐到他的驾驶室的位置：追尾不是自己主观意愿造成的
，轮胎被扎，刀子亮出来了，车门被拉开了，周围还有百十号人，看起来都不是善类—
———妻儿在旁边，报警了远水救不了近火。怎么办？？
如果是我，怎么办？下车跟带着刀的汉子们道歉讲道理，等警察？？
如果是我，我会关上门，踩油门，有多快走多快。原谅我顾... 阅读全帖 |
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t******n
发帖数: 2939 | 16 ☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
tgbrfv (cn) 于 (Sat Oct 5 10:05:43 2013, 美东) 提到:
难道摩托党是黑人就要大骂，是白人就要狂舔？
看看录像，有几个黑人？
几个涉案都象latino，还有个象巴西白人印第安混血
摩托党基本上白人，黑人，印第安黄人混血
买买提猥琐男咬定黑人
从圣路易斯，到旧金山，到明尼阿波利斯，到丹佛
美国到处都是胡作非为飞车党
90%是白人红脖
一辆摩托上万
黑人有钱玩这个？
一帮猥琐男出于生物本能喜欢躲到群体后面攻击
不是黑人也要赖黑人
如果是白人，猥琐男是不是就要狂舔？
如果别人说猥琐男鸡鸡小，nerdy，不洗澡，猥琐男要抗议
但是转眼profiling起来比谁都厉害
而且还要编造黑人谎言给自己竖起靶子
真是一群人渣
我一个2岁侄子
智商没法确切表达自己感受
感觉不舒服就说；咬
疼也是咬，辣也是咬，烫也是咬，冰也是咬
买买提猥琐男基本就是这种智商程度
受了压抑自闭分不清现实
都是尼哥的错
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发帖数: 6504 | 17 这个看着像是他们的标配
想起我在pike's peak遇到的biker，从NM到CO开来，满面红光，看着是个很温和的人，
跟我想象中
暴躁的biker相差很多。 |
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m*********g
发帖数: 10735 | 18 【 以下文字转载自 Sex 讨论区 】
发信人: beijingren (to thine own self be true), 信区: Sex
标 题: Re: Joke 1
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Aug 16 16:44:14 2013, 美东)
“Back on January 9th, a group of Pekin, Illinois bikers were riding west on
I-74 when they saw a girl about to jump off the Murray Baker Bridge. So
they stopped.
George, their leader, a big burly man of 53, gets off his Harley, walks
through a group of gawkers, past the State Trooper who was trying to talk
her down off the railing, and says,
“Hey Baby.....whatch... 阅读全帖 |
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m********g
发帖数: 2323 | 19 【 以下文字转载自 Sex 讨论区 】
发信人: beijingren (to thine own self be true), 信区: Sex
标 题: Re: Joke 1
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Aug 16 16:44:14 2013, 美东)
“Back on January 9th, a group of Pekin, Illinois bikers were riding west on
I-74 when they saw a girl about to jump off the Murray Baker Bridge. So
they stopped.
George, their leader, a big burly man of 53, gets off his Harley, walks
through a group of gawkers, past the State Trooper who was trying to talk
her down off the railing, and says,
“Hey Baby.....whatch... 阅读全帖 |
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o**s
发帖数: 3412 | 20 do it at night, say 10pm, it is quiet outside, dog walkers, bikers are gone.
i got tired of walking them (they are very slow and like to investigate
every little thing), got a pet stroller so human can get some exercise.
With the stroller, can take them to parks where there are a lot of people,
bikers, dogs. They seem to like to sit in there and look outside, and when
get to part of trail with less traffic, i let them out for a walk.
I am not sure if this will work for your kitty, and depends o... 阅读全帖 |
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P******l
发帖数: 1648 | 21 来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 雪中散步 这些弟兄姊妹的分享，基督徒的平安和能力来自圣经里的话，和与和上帝独处的时间。
第一个分享，在做大学生时，在下雪前，从学校图书馆回到宿舍，然后冲到外面，雪中
散步，感受着上帝的大能。多么美好的画面。
诗篇
42:1 （可拉后裔的训悔诗，交给伶长。）神啊，我的心切慕你，如鹿切慕溪水。
How to Keep Consistent Time with God During Different Seasons of Life
Making valuable use of your time to seek and know God
by Bill Sundstrom
In some seasons, time may be short. But even then we can seek God hungrily,
begging Him to speak to us.
As a college kid in northern Michigan, I could hardly wait to get alone with
God.
I'd surrendered my life to C... 阅读全帖 |
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s******p
发帖数: 819 | 23 【 以下文字转载自 Triathlon 俱乐部 】
发信人: serendip (serendipity), 信区: Triathlon
标 题: 2011 NYC Triathlon – My first tri and next one will be a
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Aug 7 17:19:00 2011, 美东)
2011 NYC Triathlon – My first tri and next one will be a PR for sure
Swim (1.5KM): 26:44
T1: 5:53
Bike (40KM): 1:21:21
T2: 2:49
Run (10KM): 48:39
Total: 2:45:23
Got up 4am since the transition area will be closed by 5:30am. It’s
interesting to see so many people hung over on the nyc subway at 4:30am. A
clif bar washed do... 阅读全帖 |
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i*********5
发帖数: 19210 | 24 【 以下文字转载自 Cycling 讨论区 】
发信人: ironman2015 (1/2 ironman x3), 信区: Cycling
标 题: Bicycling's 50 Golden Rules
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Oct 16 13:35:05 2012, 美东)
http://www.bicycling.com/training-nutrition/training-fitness/bi
Cyclists are innovators, constantly hunting for an edge. Over the last half-
century, we've tried thousands of methods to become stronger, faster, and
smarter on a bike—many of which have been discarded through the years.
These have endured.
1. To corner, enter wide and exit wide.
2. ... 阅读全帖 |
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s******p
发帖数: 819 | 25 2011 NYC Triathlon – My first tri and next one will be a PR for sure
Swim (1.5KM): 26:44
T1: 5:53
Bike (40KM): 1:21:21
T2: 2:49
Run (10KM): 48:39
Total: 2:45:23
Got up 4am since the transition area will be closed by 5:30am. It’s
interesting to see so many people hung over on the nyc subway at 4:30am. A
clif bar washed down by powerade for the breakfast.
Got to the transition area by 5am and it’s raining pretty heavily. A lot of
people had their fancy bikes wrapped because of the overnight rain. ... 阅读全帖 |
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b*****e
发帖数: 819 | 26 我买的时候很随便的, 让卖主骑上车在门口的路上转转, 证明车是work的,
然后就买了.
biker 有辆ducati, 你给他(id 是 biker)站内写信问问看ducati有什么要注意的地方? |
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d******i
发帖数: 3957 | 27 【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: subzero8080 (Chilling), 信区: Military
标 题: 【原创大图】Lien根本就没撞到Cruz。Mieses和打人的Chance都撒
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Oct 4 16:12:16 2013, 美东)
UPDATE: 修改过的版本见36楼。多谢fifaxyj提醒。
Mieses说他下车去照料被撞倒的Cruz，其实人家根本就没倒。
砸窗户的Reginald Chance竟然大言不惭的说Lien该打，因为他被Lien从bike上面撞下
来了：
http://www.myfoxny.com/story/23583565/bikers-were-the-victims |
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s**********t
发帖数: 1846 | 28 【 以下文字转载自 NewYork 讨论区 】
发信人: guvest (我爱你老婆Anna), 信区: NewYork
标 题: 英雄说:"They are going to kill this family"
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Oct 6 02:01:26 2013, 美东)
Sergio Consuegra, hero bystander stated that he saw the biker thugs "grabbed
the lady and grabbed her by her arm and pulling her OUT OF THE CAR. The
lady started screaming and that's when we saw the baby..." and that's when
we screamed "Not the lady! Not with the baby! I screamed too. At that moment
I saw a man [Lien] getting knocked out on the f... 阅读全帖 |
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w********n
发帖数: 1119 | 29 【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: wanglanlan (我爱王兰兰◎◎), 信区: Military
标 题: 我靠，路虎哥那个路虎是完全没法再在高速上开了
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Oct 5 00:50:10 2013, 美东)
你们看录像吧， 那个路虎车乘客一边， 不光是轮胎全部掉了， 好像金属框架怎么都
只剩下中间的核心部分了，
这个路虎哥也真是不容易了， 没办法， 不能不下高速了， 这哥们能在高速上再坚持
跑4个多mile都不容易了， 这哥们太悲惨了
以前有人建议路虎哥继续在高速上跑， 那是完全不现实的， 不信你们自己看录像，
自己判断吧
http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Biker-Brawl-Suspect-Assaul |
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g****t
发帖数: 31659 | 30 【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: guvest (我爱你老婆Anna), 信区: Military
标 题: 英雄说:"They are going to kill this family"
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Oct 6 02:09:27 2013, 美东)
发信人: guvest (我爱你老婆Anna), 信区: NewYork
标 题: 英雄说:"They are going to kill this family"
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Oct 6 02:01:26 2013, 美东)
Sergio Consuegra, hero bystander stated that he saw the biker thugs "grabbed
the lady and grabbed her by her arm and pulling her OUT OF THE CAR. The
lady started screaming and that's when we saw the baby..." and th... 阅读全帖 |
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g****t
发帖数: 31659 | 31 广东飞车党,当初是被城管用特制的叉子看见就直接打下来的.
但这个有利有弊.北京机场爆炸案那个残疾人,当初就是开摩的,然后被打残废,
只赔了10万元,然后他反复上访不成,才去炸机场的.
美国的体系,效率或者具体细节可能很烂.但In principle是没问题的.
他们高水平的法律人才也更多.在中国,你就是想实现法治,目前也没那个条件. |
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X****i
发帖数: 492 | 32 美帝不乏类似爆炸机场之范例。
另，本人并非小将，英雄切莫误会啊。 |
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z**********e
发帖数: 22064 | 33 （记者何雅婷综合报导）近日，一名在美访问学者在美国报纸上发文讨论令完成的处境
，及其可能遭遇的危险。文章拿当年获得英国庇护的俄罗斯特务利特维年科（
Alexander Litvinenko）最终被毒杀的下场为例，指令完成有可能重蹈利特维年科的覆
辙。
近日，美国史丹福大学胡佛学院访问学者Markos Kounalakis在加州萨克拉门托一份报
纸撰文称，任何国家都不会容忍叛国的行为，就算逃到天涯海角也没有一处是叛徒的安
身之所。
文章指出，令完成的哥哥令计划一度是中共中央办公厅的主任，对中共高层内部的运作
了如指掌。而逃往美国的令完成被指夹带了大批中国国家机密资料出逃，因此捉拿令完
成已经成为在美中共特务的「最重要目标」。
此前《华尔街日报》有报导称，令完成曾经与美国官员有所接触，但目前下落不明。
该报导称，美国土安全部目前对令完成一事较为谨慎，不愿透露对简．王的调查是否是
为了锁定令完成的位置，也不愿意透露令完成是否向美国申请了政治庇护，更不愿透露
美方是否接受申请，只是表示，对具体的案件不发表评论。美国中央情报局也不愿评论
。不过，「美方要求匿名的高级官员透露，令完成去年夏天曾与美... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 147 | 35 本来这个话题都是讨论烂掉的，但是最近身边一个朋友在被公司辞退，短期找工作不利
后，也准备打包裹回国了。特别是看到微信的几个群中，某些根本没有工作经验的(不
论中德)，居然也叫嚣的回国的口号，真是呵呵了。有些话也许不适合当面说，希望这
类放到网上的讨论可以给人以智慧。
1 先说回国，这要分为几个点
1) 在国内流行话到嘴边留半句。某些人在国内家里就关系+资金雄厚，这类人回国后，
很多混得如日中天，不论他们平时炫耀起来，几乎都是说自己的奋斗经验，绝不流露任
何半句“我爸是李刚”的背景。不熟的人猛然听过去，还真以为中国大陆遍地黄金了。
2) 真的在国内自己奋斗的，总工作可能为非以下几种， 国企，事业单位，公务员，民
营，外企，最后个人创业。至于上面几种之间，那个最合适自己。这个可以出若干本书
来解释，更是考验个人社会经验的时候。具体细节今天就不说了吧，总之个人目前看到
靠自己的都是比较难的
3) 生活的诸多不便，冬天雾霾，夏天暴雨，燥热，积水。食品安全，地沟油，物价暴
涨。北上广的Wohnung房价比日本东京的房子都贵。最要命是自我网络封锁，百毒的搜
索都是给钱的向上排，骗子无数啊。这要开始... 阅读全帖 |
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D**S
发帖数: 24887 | 36 What you heard may be right---for all the years I am here in the States, I
never once saw any biker being chased, pulled over, or ticketed by the cop. |
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D**S
发帖数: 24887 | 37 I think it does not matter if truly ALL of the early bikers died of
accidents. What matters is that many of them did die of accidents. Does it
matter it is 80%, 70% or even 50%? You cannot deny from you direct and
indirect experience that indeed many of them died that way. |
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g****g
发帖数: 1828 | 38 yes. the police is doing good to te biker. |
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s****n
发帖数: 786 | 39 原帖：http://www.xycq.net/forum/thread-233031-1-1.html
While a significant number of citizens in Islamic or Muslim countries are
directly hostile to Europeans, Chinese are usually just after your money. It
is unbearable to live the rest of your life in a country where there is a
constant and an overwhelming danger of being “Shanghaied”. My stepmother
was the Norwegian Vice Counsul in Shanghai and I know several Europeans
working there. They are willing to “cope” for the duration of their
company te... 阅读全帖 |
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S*R
发帖数: 1057 | 40 http://bbs.m4.cn/thread-3140729-1-1.html
While a significant number of citizens in Islamic or Muslim countries
are directly hostile to Europeans, Chinese are usually just after your money
. It is unbearable to live the rest of your life in a country where there is
a constant and an overwhelming danger of being “Shanghaied”. My
stepmother was the Norwegian Vice Counsul in Shanghai and I know several
Europeans working there. They are willing to “cope” for the duration of
their company term, ... 阅读全帖 |
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s****e
发帖数: 7018 | 41 解决方案
1。有能力的第一代华人去读律师， 读出来以后专门为华人申冤
2。成立华人 mafia，一边贩毒， 一边替自己人打抱不平。
想法虽然好，但是最后的结果一定是律师不替华人说话，
与异族发生冲突时候， 华人律师往后躲。
华人 mafia 就知道朝自己同胞卖毒品，
与 biker 党不敢交锋。 |
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J**********e
发帖数: 967 | 43 应该让这帮biker来德州猖狂！！
street |
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s*****r
发帖数: 11545 | 44 LDY just deliberately made his false comments to get your attention.
Everybody knows that why the driver honked at the bikers.
However, the driver does not have enough life experience to avoid trouble. |
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s*****r
发帖数: 11545 | 45 You will use excessive force that is necessary to protect yourself, which is
no longer self-defense.
Even if you have unqualified self-defense, you will still be taken into
custody for investigation by the police. After you are released but before
you run to 中国领事馆或者大纪元总部, you have already been attacked.
You just can't win. Because your life is way more valuable than any of those
bikers, and you are obviously a lot more vulnerable.
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s*****r
发帖数: 11545 | 46 Legally he has done nothing wrong.
Strategically, he has done nothing wrong other than honking. Actually, from
his perspective, he might just want to send them a friendly message
to alert them of the danger, but the bikers obviously has taken it as
aggression. He is too young to know enough about real life yet. After this,
he will be a lot more mature, and may be very successful in business. |
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f******5
发帖数: 162 | 47 大家对美国的biker subculture不太了解啊. |
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D*X
发帖数: 364 | 48 youtube上高清的录像，谁能看清那些人渣的车牌？
NYPD的网站上，有没有案件跟踪？
BTW:这贴里看中国人的众生相。。。
瞧这坛之里的一些兴灾乐祸的国人！一盘散沙，麻木的中国人啊！
还有报道，凭什么把他的和家人的照片打出来？FUCK the bikers! |
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