d*****u
发帖数: 17243 | 1 因为我经常看语言类的文献，所以知道Mandarin Chinese是perfectly grammatical in
English
而Taiwanese Chinese在英语里是ungrammatical的，见不到这种用法
你看得少所以不具备这种语感而已
至于这种现象形成的原因，也是很明显的，但那是另外一个话题了
你没有权利规定英语应该什么样子吧 |
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i****a
发帖数: 36252 | 2 要幫打你臉的來解釋這嗎？
"Mandarin Chinese", "Taiwanese Mandarin"
in |
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d*****u
发帖数: 17243 | 3 不知道你啥意思
Taiwanese Mandarin倒是有的，指台湾口音的普通话（国语） |
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R***r
发帖数: 3519 | 4 可以有cantonese, shanghainese, 就不可以有Taiwanese？
Mandarin 的出处，你懂吗？
回去多读点书。别党怎么叫你就怎么唤。
有你这样用脑子的，党就可以千秋万代。 |
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l*y
发帖数: 21010 | 5 mandarin的出处你懂？那你说说啊，跟taiwanese有啥关系。。 |
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k*******8
发帖数: 2320 | 6 1. 那個叫中華民國國旗 不是台灣旗 台獨的人是不喜歡那旗的
2. US English UK English都是英語的變體
Mandarin Cantonese Taiwanese是不同的語言 無法互相溝通
3. 絕大多數外國網站都會把China Taiwan Hong Kong當成國家分開列 很多人連Hong
Kong是不是一個國家都不知道 你要這麼叫真日子根本沒法過
後面 |
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m*******e
发帖数: 296 | 7 见过一个人说自己是shanghainess。他难道是沪独？
taiwanese |
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R***r
发帖数: 3519 | 8 一会儿说人家是chinese，一会儿又说taiwanese是"外人"。你逻辑混乱阿？当心被下岗
。真要下岗了，就去投奔美使馆哈。 |
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m**********n
发帖数: 27535 | 9 我们不强调chinese的结果就是taiwanese和chinese彻底分开，现在至少有争议 |
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d********a
发帖数: 9567 | 10
你还是做通外F大妈们的意见，再来说taiwanese们吧。 |
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m**********n
发帖数: 27535 | 11 【 以下文字转载自 Basketball 讨论区 】
发信人: kerin (zzsr), 信区: Basketball
标 题: Re: 关于LIN是Chinese还是Taiwanese，不要push得太狠了
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Feb 22 10:36:16 2012, 美东)
是又怎样，不是又怎样，又不会给chinese交钱。。。哈哈，想交也没处交，难不成给
CCP交？？？？哈哈。。。。 |
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c**i
发帖数: 6973 | 12 Jens Kastner and Wang Jyh-Perng, Taiwanese cool to China's overtures. Asia
Times, Oct. 1, 2010.
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China/LJ01Ad03.html
Quote:
"In fact, many of Taiwan's military officials oppose the China-Taiwan
confidence-building measures currently being established," says Arthur Ding,
research fellow at Taiwan's National Chengchi University's China Politics
Division
"China's public relations problem leaves the KMT government in a dilemma.
The more Beijing senses that the KMT's candi |
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t******n
发帖数: 3113 | 13 mandarin 好像是满族语的意思？不懂！
反正就是指代标准国语-普通话了
taiwanese mandarin真是笑死人了，越看越觉得台湾人很傻x |
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t******n
发帖数: 3113 | 14 台湾普通话，普通话就普通话，chinese，还台湾普通话，改天汉字改成taiwanese
chinese算了 |
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y***l
发帖数: 6963 | 15 taiwanese character
狗一下估计有 |
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c*******l
发帖数: 7820 | 16 【 以下文字转载自 Automobile 讨论区 】
发信人: younikwoo (youyou), 信区: Automobile
标 题: Taiwanese算是啥语言？
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Mar 1 18:52:09 2011, 美东) |
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p**********d
发帖数: 7918 | 17 Taiwanese是指台語？不然就和Madarin Chinese重複了。 |
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m**********n
发帖数: 27535 | 19 青天白日旗边上为什么写Taiwanese? 国父情何以堪？ |
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s****n
发帖数: 4266 | 20 睜眼說瞎話的灣灣﹗越來越多年輕一代的灣灣己徹底的數典忘祖﹐台灣問題不能一直無限期拖延下去了﹗
美國人說ENGLISH雖然不是英國人的ENGLISH但美國人都不會否認美國ENGLISH跟英國
ENGLISH一點關係都沒
taiwanese |
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m**********n
发帖数: 27535 | 21 【 以下文字转载自 Basketball 讨论区 】
发信人: ulmqman (HIM), 信区: Basketball
标 题: Re: taiwanese american 根本是伪概念
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Feb 9 21:49:28 2012, 美东)
人家以当中国人为耻，你能怎么样？
中国的情形大家都看的眼里，你如果自豪你可以大家说自己是中国人。很多台湾人，香
港人，新加坡人不希望自己被认为是中国出来的，人家就说自己不是中国人，怎样？
而且，你也别自以为是。其实中国人的种族也是不一样，你做一做研究就知道了，很多
中国人可以说自己是蒙古种。韩国人就认为自已是蒙古种。新疆的中国人可以说自己是
突厥人。你要有一个开放的思想。 |
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m**********n
发帖数: 27535 | 22 所以这件事不能不在乎，林就是chinese american，taiwanese 就是chinese |
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m**********n
发帖数: 27535 | 23 【 以下文字转载自 Basketball 讨论区 】
发信人: maynot (寒冬不是五月), 信区: Basketball
标 题: Re: 关于LIN是Chinese还是Taiwanese，不要push得太狠了
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Feb 21 21:26:10 2012, 美东)
看看场内多少青天白日旗就知道是谁在push这事了，在姚明那么火的时候，打五星红旗
的也不多，只有岛民心态才会如此睚眦必报 |
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g**1
发帖数: 10330 | 24 【 以下文字转载自 TheStrait 讨论区 】
发信人: gc01 (gc01), 信区: TheStrait
标 题: Jeremy Lin: Other Asian Print Race - Taiwanese
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Feb 19 03:12:41 2012, 美东)
湾湾要把林害惨了。 |
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s******l
发帖数: 6898 | 25 Chinese 貌似 不和 Taiwanese冲突呢。
林完全可以都是。
有人还是Cantonese呢，当然同时也是Chinese啊。 |
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m**********n
发帖数: 27535 | 26 本来是如此，问题是弯弯要把taiwanese分离出去 |
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m**********n
发帖数: 27535 | 27 正常
很多老外和台湾人（不光是绿蛆）基本都把taiwanese和chinese分的很清楚 |
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v*********u
发帖数: 10464 | 28 主持人说她是Taiwanese ，她马上纠正说自己是Chinese
其实她家里是上海江浙的，她只是碰巧出生在了台湾，五六岁就来美国，所以她和台湾
没啥关系吧？ |
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c**i
发帖数: 6973 | 29 林倖妃, 【2010國情調查】貧富差距、依賴大陸國人最焦慮. 天下雜誌 Commonwealth
(magazine), December 2009.
http://www.cw.com.tw/article/index.jsp?page=1&id=39740
My comment:
(a) The pertinent portion is at page 5:
"年輕人 我是台灣人！
"較值得觀察的是國人對自己的身分認同。被問到認為自己是中國人或台灣人？[
Taiwanese as a whole] 高達六二％篤定回答是台灣人、認為既是台灣人也是中國人有
二二％，回答是中國人者僅八％。在年齡層上，年紀愈輕者，愈強調自己是台灣人的身
分。
"趙春山解釋說，以往以中國人也是台灣人的比例最高，牽涉的是對中華文化的認同，
和漢民族血濃於水的感情，如今在國人印象中，談到「中國」，代表的就是中華人民共
和國，因此更強化了台灣人對這片土地的認同感。
(b) About pie charts in page 6.
(i) In 表17, the magazine concludes "期待兩岸維持 |
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c**i
发帖数: 6973 | 30 Samyabrata Ray Coswami, Scarred on a healing trip to India. The Telegraph (
Calcutta), Feb. 15, 2010.
http://www.telegraphindia.com/1100215/jsp/nation/story_12107035.jsp
("'Chinese embassy officials have decided to claim me as their own and I
believe they are coming to Pune to meet me. They still think they own Taiwan
. But I want my Taiwanese authorities, who are caught in a diplomatic web as
India says Taiwan is a part of China,' he [Jack Heung] winked, his sense of
humour still intact.")
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m*********w
发帖数: 6004 | 32
美国2010年人口普查:
请加填您是台湾人 (Taiwanese)
美国每10年一次的人口普查将在今年3月里举行。3月初至中旬每□住家都会在信箱里接到
一份2010年的人口调查表 (2010 Census)。这份调查表必需在4月1日以前填好, 并用
Census的回函信封寄回人口普查统计中心。
依美国的法律规定, 不管是否美国公民, 永久居留或长短期居留者, 住□内每个人的简短
资料都必需填入这份调查表, 以便正确统计2010年在美国的总人口数及各族群分布人数。
同时美国法律也保护填在这份调查表内的个人资料, 不会用来做其他用途, 也不会影响您
在美国的居留身份。
为什么人口普查非常重要？因为人口调查数据是用来做为美国国会重规划选区, 重编预算
用于建筑道路,医院,房屋,学校,育幼中心,老人中心, 及提供商业补助及职业培训。对于
我们在美国的台湾人或台湾人后裔而言, 这次人口调查特别重要, 因为它将是在以后10年
内,唯一显现台湾人在美国的人数多寡及其分布地区的数据。没有准确人口调查数据，
所有在美国的台湾人想要争取政府的支持或福利时, 权益有可能会严重受损。
由于人口调 |
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K****n
发帖数: 5970 | 33 美国的"taiwanese" 有几个把台湾当根儿葱的 |
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g***t
发帖数: 2278 | 34 俺打算填写：
Chinese. 然后后面用括弧写上： ( the so-called Taiwanese is like Cantonese,
both of which are a group of Chinese ). |
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w****y
发帖数: 2952 | 35 昨天收到信，下个礼拜会收到调查表。我会填Hubeinese（people from Hubei, China,
similar to Cantonese, Taiwanese, etc.) |
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l**1
发帖数: 1875 | 36 罗姆尼的亚裔顾问家里面是台湾绿营人士,我看过凤凰卫视对他的专访,他自己也说自己
只会说闽南语TAIWANESE.而且他也和罗姆尼一样认为,中国在CHEATING,并且威胁到像台
湾这样的民主国家. |
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l**********3
发帖数: 10970 | 37 他叫什么啊？看过该知道吧
罗姆尼的亚裔顾问家里面是台湾绿营人士,我看过凤凰卫视对他的专访,他自己也说自己
只会说闽南语TAIWANESE.而且他也和罗姆尼一样认为,中国在CHEATING,并且威胁到像台
湾........ |
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c**i
发帖数: 6973 | 40 (1) US Department of Agriculture (USDA) presents the website of Mypyramid.
gov, which is flexible* about daily calorie intake.
* In contrast to Taiwanese government which tends to be rigid (thanks to an
authoritarian streak passed down from the bad old days)
In For Professionals / MyPyramid Food Intake Patterns
http://www.mypyramid.gov/professionals/pdf_food_intake.html
(a) footnote 1 to the Table 1 states,
"Calorie Levels are set across a wide range to accommodate the needs of
different individ |
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h********u
发帖数: 2 | 41 Around one year ago, I met a Taiwanese guy and we both fall in love with each
other. Due to the requirement of his job, he has to go back to Taiwan at this
point. However, as a native Chinese, it seems it is impossible for me to go
to Taiwan. We just brought out the issue of getting married lately, and then
start to think of many obstacles we are facing.
I am thinking to apply for immigrating to Canada, because someone told me that
I can enter Taiwan once I have the Canadian green card availabl |
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c**i
发帖数: 6973 | 42 I don't know. Any move to disturn status quo is risky. (On the other hand,
sticking to status quo will leave Taiwan holding no rice in the bowl.)
The problem is Americans--and Europeans by extension--seem to have a knack
for marketing. Taiwanese excel in electronics and engineering but are weak
in * * *. However, Japanese car makers seem to be succeeding in US,
culminating with Toyota elbowing away General Motors as the largest car
maker of the world. |
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c**i
发帖数: 6973 | 43 Moira McLaughlin, Dinner Deals | Meals Under $15: Taiwanese Specialties, and
Bubbles to Boot. Washington Post, Aug. 22, 2008.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/21/AR2008082101318.html
While on the web page, click "Next" on the upper right corner of the "PHOTOS
," and you will go to a second--and last--photo.
My comment:
(1) To boot" is a phrase which means "in addition."
(2) Fish cake, the white oval with a rim of pink on top of noodle, is
Japanese. |
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c**i
发帖数: 6973 | 44 Today I read
Taiwan is planning to give more residence and work rights to spouses from
China. Taiwanese News, Oct. 5, 2008.
http://www.etaiwannews.com/etn/news_content.php?id=755676
My comment:
(1) The Ma administration is a dictatorship, governing without advice or
consent of Legislature. Although the Legislature is dominated by KMT, the
same as the Ma administration, it appears that the Executive branch is going
to govern by edict, doing exactly the same as KMT (and Mr. Ma Ying-jeou)
accused P |
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c**i
发帖数: 6973 | 45 I can not find a news report or academic article on electronic medical
record in Taiwan, except that more than a dozen major hospitals in January,
2008, converted record from paper to computerization. Perhaps the phenomenon
is still new there. In Taiwan medical scholls uses American medical
textnooks (in English) and all medical record are in English. In China,
medical record is in Chinese. So a Taiwanese hospital with a subsidiary in
China ca not just use the same software (used in Taiwan) to d |
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c**i
发帖数: 6973 | 46 , while China's pandas emigrate to Taiwan.
(1) Elizabeth Kalfsbeek, Taiwan dog finds home in Woodland. Daily Democrat,
Dec. 23, 2008.
http://www.dailydemocrat.com/ci_11294549?source%253Dmost_viewed.20F88DA3D7D369F5BB70F372987EAE1F.html
Note: City of Woodland is located approximately 15 miles north of Sacramento
, capital of state of california.
(2) Americans are full of fun. That is one of the many reasons I love
Americans. You all know the news about pandas arriving in Taiwan. Taiwanese-
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c**i
发帖数: 6973 | 48 Yesterday I forgot to add this as the last item under "Separately."
Laura Bashraheel, Taiwan calling: Where modernity complements tradition.
Arab News, Dec. 25, 2008.
http://www.arabnews.com/?page=9§ion=0&article=117518&d=25&m=12&y=2008
The travelogue is garden-variety, but one sentence caought my attention:
"Wherever one goes, green tea is served first. Unlike the way tea served in
the Middle East, Taiwanese tea contains no sugar. It is a kind of Chinese
green tea taken with meals and throu |
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c**i
发帖数: 6973 | 49 My comment: Often a dish or a cooking style changes beyond recognition when
it is brought to another nation. This report illustrates that point.
Alice Ching, A Taiwanese feast, The Star (Malaysia), Jan. 24, 2009.
http://thestar.com.my/lifestyle/story.asp?file=/2009/1/24/lifeliving/3072754&sec=lifeliving
My comments:
(a) City of Petaling Jaya is in the suburb of Kuala Lumpur, capital of
Malaysia.
(b) This is the first time I learn of the dish. (In fact I hardly know of
the dishes mentioned in thi |
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