g****t
发帖数: 31659 | 1 (A)以前我上学时候,体育老师教的上篮是,
双手拿住球之后,每只脚只能再落第一次,然后球就必须出手.
(B)现在看NBA,很多人在空中拿住球,然后1只脚落地,然后再
抬脚,1,2两次落地,然后出手.
今天我老用了(B),被很多人喊走步.
其实我觉得后者也是有道理的,因为既然 接球,或者运球停球 是可以
多1步站住的.不算走步.那双手拿球之后,1只脚多落地一次作为
lay up的起点计算,也是可以的.
大家怎么看?
layup的起点,是按
(A)双手拿住球开始算,
(B)还是按最后一次球落地之后,第一次脚落地结束来算? | e***t
发帖数: 14386 | 2
感觉这个"多1步"不能是aggressive的...
为了比赛流畅而已
【在 g****t 的大作中提到】
: (A)以前我上学时候,体育老师教的上篮是,
: 双手拿住球之后,每只脚只能再落第一次,然后球就必须出手.
: (B)现在看NBA,很多人在空中拿住球,然后1只脚落地,然后再
: 抬脚,1,2两次落地,然后出手.
: 今天我老用了(B),被很多人喊走步.
: 其实我觉得后者也是有道理的,因为既然 接球,或者运球停球 是可以
: 多1步站住的.不算走步.那双手拿球之后,1只脚多落地一次作为
: lay up的起点计算,也是可以的.
: 大家怎么看?
: layup的起点,是按
| s*****c
发帖数: 753 | 3
Did you do it correctly?
When you catch the ball in air and land one feet, you havn't establish pivot
yet, when your second feet land, that is pivot, this pivot feet can be
lifted but not landed before you shoot.
So if you land left feet first after you catch the ball in air, the
following is the sequence:
Left -> right (pivot feet) -> left -> shoot
【在 g****t 的大作中提到】
: (A)以前我上学时候,体育老师教的上篮是,
: 双手拿住球之后,每只脚只能再落第一次,然后球就必须出手.
: (B)现在看NBA,很多人在空中拿住球,然后1只脚落地,然后再
: 抬脚,1,2两次落地,然后出手.
: 今天我老用了(B),被很多人喊走步.
: 其实我觉得后者也是有道理的,因为既然 接球,或者运球停球 是可以
: 多1步站住的.不算走步.那双手拿球之后,1只脚多落地一次作为
: lay up的起点计算,也是可以的.
: 大家怎么看?
: layup的起点,是按
| A*****a
发帖数: 52743 | 4 一只手拿得住球不是可以无限走步了
【在 g****t 的大作中提到】
: (A)以前我上学时候,体育老师教的上篮是,
: 双手拿住球之后,每只脚只能再落第一次,然后球就必须出手.
: (B)现在看NBA,很多人在空中拿住球,然后1只脚落地,然后再
: 抬脚,1,2两次落地,然后出手.
: 今天我老用了(B),被很多人喊走步.
: 其实我觉得后者也是有道理的,因为既然 接球,或者运球停球 是可以
: 多1步站住的.不算走步.那双手拿球之后,1只脚多落地一次作为
: lay up的起点计算,也是可以的.
: 大家怎么看?
: layup的起点,是按
| g****t
发帖数: 31659 | 5 规定时刻
T1=双手持球的时刻。
如果T1是在空中发生的。那么T1之后，球出手之前，脚可以落地三次。
只要搞对就行了？
catch the ball->left->right->left?
或者你是说
left->catch the ball->right->left?
Did you do it correctly?
When you catch the ball in air and land one feet, you havn't establish pivot
yet, when your second feet land, that is pivot, this pivot feet can be
lifted but not landed before you shoot.
So if you land left feet first after you catch the ball in air, the
following is the sequence:
Left -> right (pivot feet) -> left -> shoot
【在 s*****c 的大作中提到】
:
: Did you do it correctly?
: When you catch the ball in air and land one feet, you havn't establish pivot
: yet, when your second feet land, that is pivot, this pivot feet can be
: lifted but not landed before you shoot.
: So if you land left feet first after you catch the ball in air, the
: following is the sequence:
: Left -> right (pivot feet) -> left -> shoot
| g****t
发帖数: 31659 | 6 运球状态的认定应该是有规定的，但我没找到。
说实话我觉得dribble end是靠裁判肉眼来看的。
但对运动员来说，这个区别可太大了。
一只手拿得住球不是可以无限走步了
【在 A*****a 的大作中提到】
: 一只手拿得住球不是可以无限走步了
| s*****c
发帖数: 753 | 7 sorry, I made a mistake, let me correct myself
catch the ball, then land with left, your left is pivot foot, you can land
your right foot and shoot before you land your left foot again.
If you catch the ball with left foot on the ground, your left foot become
pivot, and you can only land your right and shoot before landing the left
again.
【在 g****t 的大作中提到】
: 规定时刻
: T1=双手持球的时刻。
: 如果T1是在空中发生的。那么T1之后，球出手之前，脚可以落地三次。
: 只要搞对就行了？
: catch the ball->left->right->left?
: 或者你是说
: left->catch the ball->right->left?
:
: Did you do it correctly?
: When you catch the ball in air and land one feet, you havn't establish pivot
| e***t
发帖数: 14386 | 8 carry
【在 A*****a 的大作中提到】
: 一只手拿得住球不是可以无限走步了
| g****t
发帖数: 31659 | 9 只有在end dribble之后才能使用pivot规则的吧?
如果是dribble中间,两次球触地之间,你可以多次脚落地的.
所以问题其实是什么是end dribble.
sorry, I made a mistake, let me correct myself
catch the ball, then land with left, your left is pivot foot, you can land
your right foot and shoot before you land your left foot again.
If you catch the ball with left foot on the ground, your left foot become
pivot, and you can only land your right and shoot before landing the left
again.
如果我双手持球的时候,是在空中呢? 然后双脚落地了.
这种情况下,蹦步是没问题的.
有问题的是,双脚落地之后,还能再 left-right-shoot么?
我觉得是可以的,因为是运动状态的后续.
【在 s*****c 的大作中提到】
: sorry, I made a mistake, let me correct myself
:
: catch the ball, then land with left, your left is pivot foot, you can land
: your right foot and shoot before you land your left foot again.
: If you catch the ball with left foot on the ground, your left foot become
: pivot, and you can only land your right and shoot before landing the left
: again.
| s*****c
发帖数: 753 | 10 first, you were asking about receiving a pass and driving to basket.
second, pivot rule applies.
third, you can never travelling while dribbling.
fourth, regarding to your question of end dribble, it is defined as the ball
come to rest on your hands. Of course, now the key is how to determine when
it come to rest. Hold with two hands, or grabbing the ball are two
scenarios. Also, referee will blow the whistle if they think you "palm the
ball", which means they think you grabbed the ball.
【在 g****t 的大作中提到】
: 只有在end dribble之后才能使用pivot规则的吧?
: 如果是dribble中间,两次球触地之间,你可以多次脚落地的.
: 所以问题其实是什么是end dribble.
:
: sorry, I made a mistake, let me correct myself
: catch the ball, then land with left, your left is pivot foot, you can land
: your right foot and shoot before you land your left foot again.
: If you catch the ball with left foot on the ground, your left foot become
: pivot, and you can only land your right and shoot before landing the left
: again.
| | | p******d
发帖数: 284 | 11 接球之后直接上篮，是接到球后可以走两步（脚两次着地）出手，如果空中接球之后双
脚落地而球没有出手的，算是一个stop, 要动pivot foot球必须出手，或者开始运球。
而且如果是运球的话按照规则是pivot foot离开地面之前球必须离开手，但是这个nba
基本不吹。空中接球双脚落地后再跳步，是走步。
比较难吹的travel其实是driving layup, 因为是停止dribble后走两步，但是判断什么
时候停止dribble, 裁判看到的，观众看到的，和球员自己感觉到可以完全不同，呵呵。
【在 g****t 的大作中提到】
: 只有在end dribble之后才能使用pivot规则的吧?
: 如果是dribble中间,两次球触地之间,你可以多次脚落地的.
: 所以问题其实是什么是end dribble.
:
: sorry, I made a mistake, let me correct myself
: catch the ball, then land with left, your left is pivot foot, you can land
: your right foot and shoot before you land your left foot again.
: If you catch the ball with left foot on the ground, your left foot become
: pivot, and you can only land your right and shoot before landing the left
: again.
| g****t
发帖数: 31659 | 12 跑动中,或者运球中,双手空中接球然后双脚落地,再双脚起跳落地,然后再双脚起跳,空
中出手,应该是可以的吧?
这就是所谓的蹦步上篮吧.
我以前上体育课学过.
nba
呵。
【在 p******d 的大作中提到】
: 接球之后直接上篮，是接到球后可以走两步（脚两次着地）出手，如果空中接球之后双
: 脚落地而球没有出手的，算是一个stop, 要动pivot foot球必须出手，或者开始运球。
: 而且如果是运球的话按照规则是pivot foot离开地面之前球必须离开手，但是这个nba
: 基本不吹。空中接球双脚落地后再跳步，是走步。
: 比较难吹的travel其实是driving layup, 因为是停止dribble后走两步，但是判断什么
: 时候停止dribble, 裁判看到的，观众看到的，和球员自己感觉到可以完全不同，呵呵。
| g****t
发帖数: 31659 | 13 dribble的时候,如果球在空中没有落地,脚应该是可以多落地n次的?
王士朋经常这么干,我记得本版以前讨论过.NBA的话,Kobe擅长球不落地时候,
脚步变向,然后接着再dribble.
运球过程中,把球往远处一拍,然后追上去继续dribble,
这肯定是可以的.
ball
when
【在 s*****c 的大作中提到】
: first, you were asking about receiving a pass and driving to basket.
: second, pivot rule applies.
: third, you can never travelling while dribbling.
: fourth, regarding to your question of end dribble, it is defined as the ball
: come to rest on your hands. Of course, now the key is how to determine when
: it come to rest. Hold with two hands, or grabbing the ball are two
: scenarios. Also, referee will blow the whistle if they think you "palm the
: ball", which means they think you grabbed the ball.
| g****t
发帖数: 31659 | 14 好像弄清楚了.
b. A player who receives the ball while he is progressing or upon completion
of a dribble,
may take two steps in coming to a stop, passing or shooting the ball. A
player who receives the
ball while he is progressing must release the ball to start his dribble
before his second step
如果双手触球算是completion of a dribble,
那么,无论双手触球的时候脚在哪里,
双手触球的时刻之后,球出手之前,
双脚就是只能重新有两次触地.
但这又有了个新问题.
例如我两脚原地不动运球,dribble一下,双手接球.
这个时刻之后,我能 抬right-抬left-shot吗?
dribble的时候,如果球在空中没有落地,脚应该是可以多落地n次的?
王士朋经常这么干,我记得本版以前讨论过.NBA的话,Kobe擅长球不落地时候,
脚步变向,然后接着再dribble.
运球过程中,把球往远处一拍,然后追上去继续dribble,
这肯定是可以的.
ball
when
【在 g****t 的大作中提到】
: dribble的时候,如果球在空中没有落地,脚应该是可以多落地n次的?
: 王士朋经常这么干,我记得本版以前讨论过.NBA的话,Kobe擅长球不落地时候,
: 脚步变向,然后接着再dribble.
: 运球过程中,把球往远处一拍,然后追上去继续dribble,
: 这肯定是可以的.
:
: ball
: when
| g****t
发帖数: 31659 | 15 大家顺便给看看?
好像弄清楚了.
b. A player who receives the ball while he is progressing or upon completion
of a dribble,
may take two steps in coming to a stop, passing or shooting the ball. A
player who receives the
ball while he is progressing must release the ball to start his dribble
before his second step
如果双手触球算是completion of a dribble,
那么,无论双手触球的时候脚在哪里,
双手触球的时刻之后,球出手之前,
双脚就是只能重新有两次触地.
但这又有了个新问题.
例如我两脚原地不动运球,dribble一下,双手接球.
这个时刻之后,我能 抬right-抬left-shot吗?
dribble的时候,如果球在空中没有落地,脚应该是可以多落地n次的?
王士朋经常这么干,我记得本版以前讨论过.NBA的话,Kobe擅长球不落地时候,
脚步变向,然后接着再dribble.
运球过程中,把球往远处一拍,然后追上去继续dribble,
这肯定是可以的.
ball
when
【在 g****t 的大作中提到】
: 好像弄清楚了.
: b. A player who receives the ball while he is progressing or upon completion
: of a dribble,
: may take two steps in coming to a stop, passing or shooting the ball. A
: player who receives the
: ball while he is progressing must release the ball to start his dribble
: before his second step
: 如果双手触球算是completion of a dribble,
: 那么,无论双手触球的时候脚在哪里,
: 双手触球的时刻之后,球出手之前,
| p******n
发帖数: 9144 | 16 可以，很多人都是这么干的，
completion
【在 g****t 的大作中提到】
: 大家顺便给看看?
:
: 好像弄清楚了.
: b. A player who receives the ball while he is progressing or upon completion
: of a dribble,
: may take two steps in coming to a stop, passing or shooting the ball. A
: player who receives the
: ball while he is progressing must release the ball to start his dribble
: before his second step
: 如果双手触球算是completion of a dribble,
| s*****c
发帖数: 753 | 17
completion
No, that is travelling.
But, if you dribble the ball and take a step to catch it, you can proceed
your drive.
【在 g****t 的大作中提到】
: 好像弄清楚了.
: b. A player who receives the ball while he is progressing or upon completion
: of a dribble,
: may take two steps in coming to a stop, passing or shooting the ball. A
: player who receives the
: ball while he is progressing must release the ball to start his dribble
: before his second step
: 如果双手触球算是completion of a dribble,
: 那么,无论双手触球的时候脚在哪里,
: 双手触球的时刻之后,球出手之前,
| s*****c
发帖数: 753 | 18
of course. you can even take multiple steps with your hands on the ball as
long as you are not grabbing it or holding it with your palm facing upwards.
【在 g****t 的大作中提到】
: dribble的时候,如果球在空中没有落地,脚应该是可以多落地n次的?
: 王士朋经常这么干,我记得本版以前讨论过.NBA的话,Kobe擅长球不落地时候,
: 脚步变向,然后接着再dribble.
: 运球过程中,把球往远处一拍,然后追上去继续dribble,
: 这肯定是可以的.
:
: ball
: when
| s*****c
发帖数: 753 | 19 That is called jump-stop.
After you catch the ball in air, or stop the dribbling in air, you can land
with one foot/(or two feet simultaneously) and jump off that foot and land
with both feet to come to a stop. In FIBA/NCAA rule neither foot is pivot
foot. You can
lift your foot off ground (like jumping off) then shoot or pass in air
before landing. But you can't pivot.
In NBA rule, after jump stop, you can pivot. If one foot is ahead of the
other foot, the one on the back is the pivot. If neither foot is ahead of
the other, both feet can be pivot.
【在 g****t 的大作中提到】
: 跑动中,或者运球中,双手空中接球然后双脚落地,再双脚起跳落地,然后再双脚起跳,空
: 中出手,应该是可以的吧?
: 这就是所谓的蹦步上篮吧.
: 我以前上体育课学过.
:
: nba
: 呵。
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