a****s
发帖数: 524 | 1 S KQ763
H 732
D AJ6
C K6
S J9 S 854
H Q6 H T984
D KQ98 D 72
C Q8543 C AJ92
S AT2
H AKJ5
D T543
C T7
S W N E
1N P 2H P
2S P 3N P
4S P P P
Madala play 4S, win DK with Ace, 3 round trump stop in hand, west
pitch a club, diamond to J hold the trick.
Now he play a heart to Ace, and King of heart!
Can anyone explain his play? in a way we mere mortal could understand? | j*******e
发帖数: 2168 | 2 He took a view?
I would play another diamond after DJ wins.
【在 a****s 的大作中提到】
: S KQ763
: H 732
: D AJ6
: C K6
: S J9 S 854
: H Q6 H T984
: D KQ98 D 72
: C Q8543 C AJ92
: S AT2
: H AKJ5
| p***r
发帖数: 20570 | 3 Perhaps he saw west's HQx.
【在 a****s 的大作中提到】
: S KQ763
: H 732
: D AJ6
: C K6
: S J9 S 854
: H Q6 H T984
: D KQ98 D 72
: C Q8543 C AJ92
: S AT2
: H AKJ5
| p***r
发帖数: 20570 | 4 Of course that's the right play. HAK looks very bad.
【在 j*******e 的大作中提到】
: He took a view?
: I would play another diamond after DJ wins.
| b***y
发帖数: 2804 | 5 If he is certain that East has only 2 diamonds, the line is not totally odd.
Any time West has Qx, or East has Qxx, it succeeds. If East starts with
Qxxx, he can still hope that East has CA.
Yes, he took a view. | w****b
发帖数: 623 | 6 At the time he cashed HAK, he has no more entries back his own hand, so this
can't be a safety play.
odd.
【在 b***y 的大作中提到】
: If he is certain that East has only 2 diamonds, the line is not totally odd.
: Any time West has Qx, or East has Qxx, it succeeds. If East starts with
: Qxxx, he can still hope that East has CA.
: Yes, he took a view.
| l****a
发帖数: 272 | 7 这副我正好看到了, 也想到了这个问题, 西家敢忍让DQ, 暗示了D 是 4-2.
那么, Madala 的打法就是对的, 他是准备让东家吃投入的.
听说他是个神童, 以前还真没看到他有啥表演.(是我没看, 不是他不表演)
倒是对叫牌感兴趣, Bocchi 和 Madala 的 cc 上写的,
1NT 15-17 or 12-14,
应该和局况和位置有关, 但是弱NT 的话, 看来他们也采用转移.
这副就是, 结果导致了庄位的不同. 反正荷兰那边没能做成.
弱的, 为什么也转移呢?
前面还有一副, 1D-pass-1H-1NT, 这个1NT, 作为 unusual 是常见的,
但是Bocchi 的不是, 而是正常的争叫. 我以为这说明了,
轻开叫, 轻应叫的 频繁发生, 把 1NT 改回自然实叫,有时候是有利的.
但是这副却不是, 荷兰人不是弱开弱应, 很快跳上了4H.
庄家不用 took a view 了, mk.
另外一桌, Versace 4H-2.
odd.
【在 b***y 的大作中提到】
: If he is certain that East has only 2 diamonds, the line is not totally odd.
: Any time West has Qx, or East has Qxx, it succeeds. If East starts with
: Qxxx, he can still hope that East has CA.
: Yes, he took a view.
| l****a
发帖数: 272 | 8 还有个问题, HK 以后, 就claim mk 了.
我当时奇怪的是, Madala 怎么知道 CA 倒飞不中?
后来想想, 也许不是他claim 的, 而是防家claim 的.
BBO 上可以看到是谁 claim 的吗? 这个我没留意. | o*******n
发帖数: 6500 | 9 claim也可能是转播员没看清楚怎么回事，只知道结果 :-)
【在 l****a 的大作中提到】
: 还有个问题, HK 以后, 就claim mk 了.
: 我当时奇怪的是, Madala 怎么知道 CA 倒飞不中?
: 后来想想, 也许不是他claim 的, 而是防家claim 的.
: BBO 上可以看到是谁 claim 的吗? 这个我没留意.
| b***y
发帖数: 2804 | 10 It's not a safety play. The entire play is based on the assumption that East has exactly 2 diamonds．Under that condition, HAK is the best line.
【在 w****b 的大作中提到】
: At the time he cashed HAK, he has no more entries back his own hand, so this
: can't be a safety play.
:
: odd.
| | | b***y
发帖数: 2804 | 11 弱的为什么不转移？现在大部分使用弱无将的都用转移吧？那个什么逼叫斯台曼其实不
是很有用。
【在 l****a 的大作中提到】
: 还有个问题, HK 以后, 就claim mk 了.
: 我当时奇怪的是, Madala 怎么知道 CA 倒飞不中?
: 后来想想, 也许不是他claim 的, 而是防家claim 的.
: BBO 上可以看到是谁 claim 的吗? 这个我没留意.
| w****b
发帖数: 623 | 12 I don't buy this. If this is the thinking, wouldn't you cash the DA, see no
K or Q drop, then you are sure D is 4-2, and then take this line?
East has exactly 2 diamonds．Under that condition, HAK is the best line.
【在 b***y 的大作中提到】
: It's not a safety play. The entire play is based on the assumption that East has exactly 2 diamonds．Under that condition, HAK is the best line.
| b***y
发帖数: 2804 | 13 What do you mean? DA was played at trick 1.
【在 w****b 的大作中提到】
: I don't buy this. If this is the thinking, wouldn't you cash the DA, see no
: K or Q drop, then you are sure D is 4-2, and then take this line?
:
: East has exactly 2 diamonds．Under that condition, HAK is the best line.
| j*******e
发帖数: 2168 | 14 HAK catered for Qx in W, but not Qxxx in E && CA in W, so it's about the
same?
not to mention D 4-2 is only an assumption
East has exactly 2 diamonds．Under that condition, HAK is the best line.
【在 b***y 的大作中提到】
: It's not a safety play. The entire play is based on the assumption that East has exactly 2 diamonds．Under that condition, HAK is the best line.
| b***y
发帖数: 2804 | 15 No, as long as D divides 4-2, AK caters to any case except E has 5 hearts
with Q. If East has Qxxx, on 4th heart dummy pitches the D loser.
This was really a nice play, as long as declarer has a confidence on diamond
distribution.
【在 j*******e 的大作中提到】
: HAK catered for Qx in W, but not Qxxx in E && CA in W, so it's about the
: same?
: not to mention D 4-2 is only an assumption
:
: East has exactly 2 diamonds．Under that condition, HAK is the best line.
| w****b
发帖数: 623 | 16 Oh yeah, I missed that -- somehow I thought it was trump lead and he led a D
to J, winning... In this case, Madala made a good play then.
On the DK lead, since the D ruff is a real possibility, East must give
honest count in D so he has an accurate read on the D distribution.
【在 b***y 的大作中提到】
: What do you mean? DA was played at trick 1.
| a****s
发帖数: 524 | 17 I think you are right,
I overlooked that one. It's actually a very good play.
If East had Q of hearts, always make given he only had 2 diamonds,
because declarer can pitch a diamond from dummy on the 4th heart.
only lose 2 hearts and 1 club.
【在 b***y 的大作中提到】
: What do you mean? DA was played at trick 1.
| p***r
发帖数: 20570 | 18 I actually don't really think east should play count on the first trick. I
think it still should be an attitude signal because partner may lead K from
Kx sometimes so you need to tell him whether you like D or not. In that
sense, a high low (to discourage in UDCA) signal shouldn't mean much in D
length.
Also, if partner holds SA and DKQ, he would give you a D ruff anyway,
because you know he's unlikely to hold CQ in that case. So giving a D count
is pretty bad.
Anyway, it's usually a matter of observation of your opp's signal here. Some players like to give counts no matter what, especially French players, in that sense, this is a strong line. I don't much about dutch player though.
D
【在 w****b 的大作中提到】
: Oh yeah, I missed that -- somehow I thought it was trump lead and he led a D
: to J, winning... In this case, Madala made a good play then.
: On the DK lead, since the D ruff is a real possibility, East must give
: honest count in D so he has an accurate read on the D distribution.
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