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发帖数: 2169 | | S******8
发帖数: 24594 | | h****g
发帖数: 2216 | 3 这里有个解释，看来形势不妙
http://dreamact.info/forum/showthread.php?p=194785
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid on Thursday, December 9, pulled a
procedural rabbit out of his hat to prevent what would almost certainly have
been a losing vote from occurring on the DREAM Act. The Majority Leader
acted shortly after 11:15 am EST, when he moved to table his previously made
motion that the Senate proceed to consideration of S. 3992, the Senate
version of the DREAM Act. The Senate agreed to his motion by a vote of 59-40
, thereby preventing the Senate from conducting a previously scheduled
cloture vote in relation to the DREAM Act.
The action on Thursday in the Senate is considerd a victory for supporters
of the DREAM Act. It enables them to avoid a potentially momentum-killing
losing vote on the Senate bill, gives them as much as a week to continue to
pound potential swing vote Senators, and could set up a situation where
Republicans in the Senate have no refuge in procedure and have to cast a yes
or no vote on the DREAM Act on the bill's merits.
The next action on the DREAM Act in the Senate is likely to take place next
week or later.
Following the vote on the motion to table, Majority Leader Reid and
Assistant Senate Majority Leader Dick Durbin (D-IL) reasserted their
commitment to bringing the DREAM Act before the Senate for a vote, saying, "
the Senate will move to the House-passed version of the bill later this
month. In the mean time, we will work with House leaders and the
Administration to ensure that the DREAM Act will be law by the end of the
year.
“The DREAM Act is not a symbolic vote. We owe it to the young men and women
whose lives will be affected by this bill, and to the country which needs
their service in the military and their skills in building our economy, to
honestly address this issue. Members on both sides of the aisle need to ask
themselves if we can afford to say to these talented young men and women
there is no place in America for you.”
【在 S******8 的大作中提到】
: 真的吗？
: 要是真的太好了
| Q*K
发帖数: 3464 | 4 FUCK these senators.
Nobody cares about us. | z***e
发帖数: 1757 | 5 it's laughable to characterize the "delay" on voting on Dream Act a victory
for its supporters. They know it faces certain death in the current senate.
have
made
40
【在 h****g 的大作中提到】
: 这里有个解释，看来形势不妙
: http://dreamact.info/forum/showthread.php?p=194785
: Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid on Thursday, December 9, pulled a
: procedural rabbit out of his hat to prevent what would almost certainly have
: been a losing vote from occurring on the DREAM Act. The Majority Leader
: acted shortly after 11:15 am EST, when he moved to table his previously made
: motion that the Senate proceed to consideration of S. 3992, the Senate
: version of the DREAM Act. The Senate agreed to his motion by a vote of 59-40
: , thereby preventing the Senate from conducting a previously scheduled
: cloture vote in relation to the DREAM Act.
| h****g
发帖数: 2216 | 6 现在我越想越不对劲。那哥们信心百倍的折腾这事，难道真有把握？
victory
senate.
【在 z***e 的大作中提到】
: it's laughable to characterize the "delay" on voting on Dream Act a victory
: for its supporters. They know it faces certain death in the current senate.
:
: have
: made
: 40
| a**n
发帖数: 2431 | 7 废话，完全没希望这么折腾干啥
其实很接近
至少有50%把握
下周我们等待中的合法移民就要傻眼了
【在 h****g 的大作中提到】
: 现在我越想越不对劲。那哥们信心百倍的折腾这事，难道真有把握？
:
: victory
: senate.
| h****g
发帖数: 2216 | 8 这我就更不明白了，下周不过不还有下下周吗？
今天这个59：40说白了就是争取下周投票。到底是什么让这哥们一定要在下周决胜负。
59啊，难道就差Susan这一票了？
【在 a**n 的大作中提到】
: 废话，完全没希望这么折腾干啥
: 其实很接近
: 至少有50%把握
: 下周我们等待中的合法移民就要傻眼了
| h****g
发帖数: 2216 | 9 我反复算了一下，他很可能搞定了58到59票。但是这最后一到两票从那里搞？
我怎么觉得2012总统选举提前了。
【在 h****g 的大作中提到】
: 这我就更不明白了，下周不过不还有下下周吗？
: 今天这个59：40说白了就是争取下周投票。到底是什么让这哥们一定要在下周决胜负。
: 59啊，难道就差Susan这一票了？
| f*******e
发帖数: 4531 | 10 Oh law的说法，还挺有道理的。希望共和党能顶得住。
There are two factors which can determine whether the DREAM can become a
reality before the end of the year. One is logistics. Currently there are
two different DREAM bills, one in the House and the other in the Senate.
There are some difference between these two bills. If the Senate tries to
pass its own bill, so-called Durbin bill, the chance for survival of the
DREAM legislation will be very slim in that the difference between the two
bills should go through the Senate-House conference process to produce a
compromise bill, which will then have to go to the floor of each chamber for
passage. Considering ticking of clock, logistically it may be close to
impossible to make a legislation through such process before the end of the
year. The Senate, however, has a way to bypass such process. Rather than
acting on its own bill (Durbin bill), it can just act on the House bill
which has already passed the lower chamber. Should that happen, it will
beonly a matter of the President signing the bill before the end of the year
. Information indicates that the Senate Majority Leader is considering this
option. Number two: even if the Senate takes such option, currently the
Democrats do not have enough numbers (60) to pass the cloture motion to
block filibuster. However, it appears that there appears to be some
Republican Senators who might vote for the DREAM bill once the tax cut
legislation is first taken care of. The President's compromise with the
Republican leaders was supposed to give a glim of hope in that regard.
However, the President's comprise is currently facing a revolt in the House.
The reality at this point: all in all, the dream is still alive and well.
It is still do-able. DREAM activities should just work harder for the next
few days to add pressures on some Senators. |
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