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Faculty版 - job talk的technical要讲多深入呢?
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b********n
发帖数: 1651
1
如果讲很多technical繁琐推导和计算,可以肯定不是我这个方向的人肯定听不懂,但
如果不讲又怕本方向老师觉得不够深入,这个度该怎么把握呢?准备两个project, 一
个project讲10分钟从深度看可以吗?
b********6
发帖数: 585
2
我是打算从大背景到推倒计算都讲,这样的话只能挑一个project。其他project只讲一
两页slides。
b********n
发帖数: 1651
3
昨晚有个好心人的回帖怎么被删了呢?

【在 b********n 的大作中提到】
: 如果讲很多technical繁琐推导和计算,可以肯定不是我这个方向的人肯定听不懂,但
: 如果不讲又怕本方向老师觉得不够深入,这个度该怎么把握呢?准备两个project, 一
: 个project讲10分钟从深度看可以吗?

f*******h
发帖数: 1269
4
Check this one based on CS:
http://homes.cs.washington.edu/~mernst/advice/academic-job.html
"15 minutes accessible to everyone; 15 minutes accessible to half; and 5-10
minutes that only a few understand. They argue that it is bad if everyone
understands your entire talk: you seem too shallow. The problem statement
needs to be clear, but the solution need not be (show a few equations);
naturally, you do need to show that you nailed the solution. "

【在 b********n 的大作中提到】
: 如果讲很多technical繁琐推导和计算,可以肯定不是我这个方向的人肯定听不懂,但
: 如果不讲又怕本方向老师觉得不够深入,这个度该怎么把握呢?准备两个project, 一
: 个project讲10分钟从深度看可以吗?

N******K
发帖数: 10202
5
They argue that it is bad if everyone understands your entire talk: you seem
too shallow.
很有见解

10

【在 f*******h 的大作中提到】
: Check this one based on CS:
: http://homes.cs.washington.edu/~mernst/advice/academic-job.html
: "15 minutes accessible to everyone; 15 minutes accessible to half; and 5-10
: minutes that only a few understand. They argue that it is bad if everyone
: understands your entire talk: you seem too shallow. The problem statement
: needs to be clear, but the solution need not be (show a few equations);
: naturally, you do need to show that you nailed the solution. "

b********n
发帖数: 1651
6
原文是这样的:
I believe the entire talk should be clear and accessible to a bright
computer scientist not in your area. This shows that you will be a good
teacher, an important criterion that is frequently discussed in hiring
meetings. It also shows that you are fully in command of, and can
disseminate, your research results. Other people (with whom I disagree)
argue that you should split the talk into: 15 minutes accessible to everyone
; 15 minutes accessible to half; and 5-10 minutes that only a few understand
. They argue that it is bad if everyone understands your entire talk: you
seem too shallow. The problem statement needs to be clear, but the solution
need not be (show a few equations); naturally, you do need to show that you
nailed the solution.
貌似原文作者不赞成“15 minutes accessible to everyone; 15 minutes accessible
to half; and 5-10 minutes that only a few understand. ” 啊

10

【在 f*******h 的大作中提到】
: Check this one based on CS:
: http://homes.cs.washington.edu/~mernst/advice/academic-job.html
: "15 minutes accessible to everyone; 15 minutes accessible to half; and 5-10
: minutes that only a few understand. They argue that it is bad if everyone
: understands your entire talk: you seem too shallow. The problem statement
: needs to be clear, but the solution need not be (show a few equations);
: naturally, you do need to show that you nailed the solution. "

b********6
发帖数: 585
7
原文作者并不赞成 但是他提出来是想说 这也是一些人的说法 读者自己选择接受或者
不接受
j*******2
发帖数: 386
8
这是bullshit 听众不会因为听不懂就觉得你聪明 如果你能把复杂的东西用简单的话解
释清楚 别人才会觉得你聪明 何况job talk也是在考察你teaching的能力 怎么简单怎
么来 确保大家听懂

seem

【在 N******K 的大作中提到】
: They argue that it is bad if everyone understands your entire talk: you seem
: too shallow.
: 很有见解
:
: 10

c******4
发帖数: 4896
9
一定要深入浅出,让大家听明白。。。。。
M****o
发帖数: 4860
10
这跟做菜一个道理
众口难调
我觉得大多数还是希望能听懂
但也有少数会挑剔

【在 j*******2 的大作中提到】
: 这是bullshit 听众不会因为听不懂就觉得你聪明 如果你能把复杂的东西用简单的话解
: 释清楚 别人才会觉得你聪明 何况job talk也是在考察你teaching的能力 怎么简单怎
: 么来 确保大家听懂
:
: seem

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