f******n
发帖数: 175 | 1 周末跟同事友谊赛.一共拿出driver 3次,每次都打飞.
然后就直接铁杆一抡到底.结果我们还赢了吨午饭.当然主要是队友水平高,par5轻松抓
鹰,而且还跟没事儿是的.要我早就乐疯了.
今年目标是铁杆打直打正.下场就不带driver了. 每洞按bogey 打.外加１０杆buffer,
争取进100.
course management strategy 如何? | A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 2 i have a friend just like you. 220 yards or so par3, i tee with 3wood, he
use 3 iron.
it all depends on how good are your irons.
as ET said before, 7 iron 150, times 3, you can still reach short par5 by
GIR
to me, without driver, my ball wont go anywhere.
in terms of course management, i am on the other end spectrum. I plan to
leave my irons out of my game for now (keep 7,8,9), since most of my errant
shots are from irons. also, to get good score, most of time, it is decided
by how good is your
【在 f******n 的大作中提到】
: 周末跟同事友谊赛.一共拿出driver 3次,每次都打飞.
: 然后就直接铁杆一抡到底.结果我们还赢了吨午饭.当然主要是队友水平高,par5轻松抓
: 鹰,而且还跟没事儿是的.要我早就乐疯了.
: 今年目标是铁杆打直打正.下场就不带driver了. 每洞按bogey 打.外加１０杆buffer,
: 争取进100.
: course management strategy 如何?
| f******n
发帖数: 175 | 3 thx aff for your fast reply.
7 iron full swing gets me to 150.
7 iron 3/4 swing gets me about 110 sth more or less. I am more confident
with my 3/4 swing.
I have Hybrid 4 and hybrid 5 and I really like them. Thought I cannot hit
them more than 200, but at least I can find the ball on the fairway more.
When I can hit my iron more than 200, I will pick up my driver again. | W*****5
发帖数: 408 | 4 If you can hit 150 3 times in a roll with a 7 iron, you can probably hit
driver really well already...
errant
【在 A*f 的大作中提到】
: i have a friend just like you. 220 yards or so par3, i tee with 3wood, he
: use 3 iron.
: it all depends on how good are your irons.
: as ET said before, 7 iron 150, times 3, you can still reach short par5 by
: GIR
: to me, without driver, my ball wont go anywhere.
: in terms of course management, i am on the other end spectrum. I plan to
: leave my irons out of my game for now (keep 7,8,9), since most of my errant
: shots are from irons. also, to get good score, most of time, it is decided
: by how good is your
| A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 5 这个不好说
there is no much direct link between iron shots and woods/driver hits
on the contrary, i know a lot ppl (amature) with good driver and bad iron,
or very consistent iron but poor driver.
【在 W*****5 的大作中提到】
: If you can hit 150 3 times in a roll with a 7 iron, you can probably hit
: driver really well already...
:
: errant
| f******n
发帖数: 175 | 6 plus roll over, my 7 iron is stable at 150.
my driver goes left, right, high in the sky, anywhere but the faireway.
i think i still cannot master the weight shifting. | b********5
发帖数: 253 | 7 followcn,
7 iron stable at 150 is pretty good play already, which means your driver
should not be that shabby. It is hard to give up driver or 3-wood. There are
courses that you have to deal with them. Say some holes on a course require
over 200 yard carry over water. Obviously a 7 iron can not make it. I guess
practice for drivers or long woods is still a must to do. | f******n
发帖数: 175 | 8 Thanks birdie2005
Appreciate your comments. 200 carry over water is a challenge but may not be
that normal in the courses I played.
I am a conservative player. Say if I have a hole of 250, my strategy is: 6/7
iron + 8/9 iron. I am very confidence to get on the green and avoide the
bunker. Even it is 380, I just hit my 7 iron one more time.
Before, I may have used driver or 3 woods. The shots are either shank or
slice or draw or ends up in the bunker. That may cost me more stokes to get
on the gr | f******n
发帖数: 175 | 9 Plus, I am an over 100 player and my goal is to get stable around 90s.
I let myself to get bogey on each hole and plus 10 strokes to screw up. That
is breaking 100. | t****i
发帖数: 904 | 10 我以前driver打不好时，曾经有一段时间包里只有铁杆，从一号到九号。一般情况都是
用一号或二号铁开球。
后来选了很多课，再加上driver越做越容易打，现在1号铁2号铁已经有好久没摸了。新
的driver的sweet spot好大，其实是很容易打得，而且距离的确是远。
be
/7
get
courses
【在 f******n 的大作中提到】
: Thanks birdie2005
: Appreciate your comments. 200 carry over water is a challenge but may not be
: that normal in the courses I played.
: I am a conservative player. Say if I have a hole of 250, my strategy is: 6/7
: iron + 8/9 iron. I am very confidence to get on the green and avoide the
: bunker. Even it is 380, I just hit my 7 iron one more time.
: Before, I may have used driver or 3 woods. The shots are either shank or
: slice or draw or ends up in the bunker. That may cost me more stokes to get
: on the gr
| | | W*****5
发帖数: 408 | 11 ahh, tee-ski :) Your Japanese sounding name threw me off...
【在 t****i 的大作中提到】
: 我以前driver打不好时，曾经有一段时间包里只有铁杆，从一号到九号。一般情况都是
: 用一号或二号铁开球。
: 后来选了很多课，再加上driver越做越容易打，现在1号铁2号铁已经有好久没摸了。新
: 的driver的sweet spot好大，其实是很容易打得，而且距离的确是远。
:
: be
: /7
: get
: courses
| v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 12 co-thinking letting driver alone, before getting it straight
assume average 2.5 putts and short chip
20% mishit for long iron/5wood around 200 yard
10% mishit for short iron around 130 yard, 30-50 yard pitch
break 100 at 7445 yard Augusta National!!!
,
【在 f******n 的大作中提到】
: 周末跟同事友谊赛.一共拿出driver 3次,每次都打飞.
: 然后就直接铁杆一抡到底.结果我们还赢了吨午饭.当然主要是队友水平高,par5轻松抓
: 鹰,而且还跟没事儿是的.要我早就乐疯了.
: 今年目标是铁杆打直打正.下场就不带driver了. 每洞按bogey 打.外加１０杆buffer,
: 争取进100.
: course management strategy 如何?
| A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 13 looks good on paper.
i played 9 hole at fremont last sunday, which is a small course. for those
who are familiar with the course would know there are tons of hazard (water,
weeds, trees ...) around few holes.
i was being conservative, and used 3wood and/or hybrid, and kept my driver
in the bag. turn out it became a whole different course to me.
judge by the score, i would stick with my driver, since 3wood/hybrid + 1
miss chip/putt + 1 chip is about the same with driver + 1 penalty + 1 chip
and u
【在 v*****r 的大作中提到】
: co-thinking letting driver alone, before getting it straight
: assume average 2.5 putts and short chip
: 20% mishit for long iron/5wood around 200 yard
: 10% mishit for short iron around 130 yard, 30-50 yard pitch
: break 100 at 7445 yard Augusta National!!!
:
: ,
| d***t
发帖数: 210 | 14 Personally I don't find the 9-hole course in Fremont an easy course at all.
But I like it a lot because you only need <2 hours to test out almost all
aspects of your game.
Btw, I'm curious about your "rewarding experience" at hole 2 & 4. | A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 15 both hole 2 and 4 are driveable par4 with 254 and 257 yards respectively.
无知者无畏
before i switch to my new driver, i knew maximum i can only drive 250. so
everytime i basically pull my driver, drive with all my power. if i am lucky
(sometimes i was), the ball would roll on green. though i never eagle them,
but the feeling was very nice.
.
【在 d***t 的大作中提到】
: Personally I don't find the 9-hole course in Fremont an easy course at all.
: But I like it a lot because you only need <2 hours to test out almost all
: aspects of your game.
: Btw, I'm curious about your "rewarding experience" at hole 2 & 4.
| v****e
发帖数: 19471 | 16 lol... I'm sure that feels great. I'll try that 267 yd par 4 at my local 9-h
ole course this friday. I know even if I end up short in that front bunber,
it'll still feel great.
lucky
them,
【在 A*f 的大作中提到】
: both hole 2 and 4 are driveable par4 with 254 and 257 yards respectively.
: 无知者无畏
: before i switch to my new driver, i knew maximum i can only drive 250. so
: everytime i basically pull my driver, drive with all my power. if i am lucky
: (sometimes i was), the ball would roll on green. though i never eagle them,
: but the feeling was very nice.
:
: .
| d***t
发帖数: 210 | 17 Awesome. I can almost visualize your shots at these two holes. #2, you need
to stay left to center; #4, you got 2 bunkers at the front...well, just
thinking loud here and I know I'll stay with shorter club.
【在 A*f 的大作中提到】
: both hole 2 and 4 are driveable par4 with 254 and 257 yards respectively.
: 无知者无畏
: before i switch to my new driver, i knew maximum i can only drive 250. so
: everytime i basically pull my driver, drive with all my power. if i am lucky
: (sometimes i was), the ball would roll on green. though i never eagle them,
: but the feeling was very nice.
:
: .
| n*****0
发帖数: 185 | 18 不用driver 简直就是犯罪啊。。 基本上很少有人打iron 3，4了
【在 t****i 的大作中提到】
: 我以前driver打不好时，曾经有一段时间包里只有铁杆，从一号到九号。一般情况都是
: 用一号或二号铁开球。
: 后来选了很多课，再加上driver越做越容易打，现在1号铁2号铁已经有好久没摸了。新
: 的driver的sweet spot好大，其实是很容易打得，而且距离的确是远。
:
: be
: /7
: get
: courses
| v***s
发帖数: 4031 | 19 对，不用开球杆，就是犯罪，尤其是现在制杆技术这么发达之时，嘿嘿。
也别说，我有一阵子，也特怵用开球杆，那么小的杆头，弄不好就打飞。
【在 n*****0 的大作中提到】
: 不用driver 简直就是犯罪啊。。 基本上很少有人打iron 3，4了
| v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 20 one month ago, i was on the NO driver side.
now i am on the other sie. like driver very much, and start to use driver
even on long par 3. talking about the large club face.
no use 3iron for a while on course, use it at range to test how well i swing
...
use 4iron occassionally.
mostly could replace with 5wood....which has higher ball flight....
【在 n*****0 的大作中提到】
: 不用driver 简直就是犯罪啊。。 基本上很少有人打iron 3，4了
| | | f******n
发帖数: 175 | 21 我一阵子一阵子的. 最近开球木非常顺手. 不远,200多, 但是直, 这就够了. 剩下就用
5铁慢慢找. 只要不丢球,我就很满足了. | v***s
发帖数: 4031 | 22 是啊，挥杆状态就跟老婆每天的心情一样，难以预测。要动脑子琢磨，要顺其自然，别
强求，哈哈。
【在 f******n 的大作中提到】
: 我一阵子一阵子的. 最近开球木非常顺手. 不远,200多, 但是直, 这就够了. 剩下就用
: 5铁慢慢找. 只要不丢球,我就很满足了.
| A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 23 there are still alot of ppl use 3i,4i, at least 4i is very common.
well, i dont have 3i nor 4i, but i can see the benefit to carry 3i and 4i in
the bag. especially for those long hitter.
if your 5i avg is 180 or above, having 3i and 4i around would be much easier
for your game plan.
【在 n*****0 的大作中提到】
: 不用driver 简直就是犯罪啊。。 基本上很少有人打iron 3，4了
| v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 24 after seeing you hit driver and 3wood, my interests in 3iron and 4iron start
to diminish....
figur that long hitter is gauged by driver and woods distance. not irons.
iron are not for distance.
i believe majority of guys at this board hit PW about same distance as Tiger
,
hit 7iron about 10-30 yards shorter than tiger,
but when comes to woods and Driver, 60 yards or more shorter than tiger.
i realized that Pro hit irons with much less effort than amateurs, at least
me... so many pro iron shot
【在 A*f 的大作中提到】
: there are still alot of ppl use 3i,4i, at least 4i is very common.
: well, i dont have 3i nor 4i, but i can see the benefit to carry 3i and 4i in
: the bag. especially for those long hitter.
: if your 5i avg is 180 or above, having 3i and 4i around would be much easier
: for your game plan.
| v****e
发帖数: 19471 | 25 tiger's PW can go 150 if he wants... these pros only use 75%--80% of power.
we amateurs normally get 125 yards or less out of a PW at 100% power. percen
tage wise, it is similar to 60 yard different on a driver.
start
Tiger
least
【在 v*****r 的大作中提到】
: after seeing you hit driver and 3wood, my interests in 3iron and 4iron start
: to diminish....
: figur that long hitter is gauged by driver and woods distance. not irons.
: iron are not for distance.
: i believe majority of guys at this board hit PW about same distance as Tiger
: ,
: hit 7iron about 10-30 yards shorter than tiger,
: but when comes to woods and Driver, 60 yards or more shorter than tiger.
: i realized that Pro hit irons with much less effort than amateurs, at least
: me... so many pro iron shot
| n*****0
发帖数: 185 | 26 if 5i avg is 180 or above, what is the point to use 3i or 4i. why don't use
3wood or 5 wood or hybrids to cover 190-220? it is easier to hit and
control. 3i and 4i are so challenge for 80% golfer.
in
easier
【在 A*f 的大作中提到】
: there are still alot of ppl use 3i,4i, at least 4i is very common.
: well, i dont have 3i nor 4i, but i can see the benefit to carry 3i and 4i in
: the bag. especially for those long hitter.
: if your 5i avg is 180 or above, having 3i and 4i around would be much easier
: for your game plan.
| A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 27 i wouldnt go that far to say 3wood/5wood easier to hit and control compare
to 3i and 4i.
distance wise, 3wood/5wood might get you the similar (normally they should
be further)
also, for ppl hit 3i/4i, they usually, they carry 3wood/5wood too. so, it is
not "one replace the other". only ppl cant hit 3i/4i would rely on other
clubs to make up the distance gaps, and for those players, usually, most
likely, their 5i cant hit 180 or above.
use
【在 n*****0 的大作中提到】
: if 5i avg is 180 or above, what is the point to use 3i or 4i. why don't use
: 3wood or 5 wood or hybrids to cover 190-220? it is easier to hit and
: control. 3i and 4i are so challenge for 80% golfer.
:
: in
: easier
| t****i
发帖数: 904 | 28 I found my hybrid harder to control then my 3i. 3i is actually the most
versatile club in my bag, i use it for a lot of scrambling shots especially
those have to go far and low. i can hit a 3i to run to 200+ with very low
trajectory (no more than 3-4 yds above ground). i have a much harder time to
do the same with my hybrid.
the other very useful place for 3i and 4i is for par 3s between 200 and 230
yds. 3 wood and 5 wood are not designed for par 3s.
use
【在 n*****0 的大作中提到】
: if 5i avg is 180 or above, what is the point to use 3i or 4i. why don't use
: 3wood or 5 wood or hybrids to cover 190-220? it is easier to hit and
: control. 3i and 4i are so challenge for 80% golfer.
:
: in
: easier
| ET
发帖数: 10701 | 29 靠。。
这个太牛逼了。
especially
to
230
【在 t****i 的大作中提到】
: I found my hybrid harder to control then my 3i. 3i is actually the most
: versatile club in my bag, i use it for a lot of scrambling shots especially
: those have to go far and low. i can hit a 3i to run to 200+ with very low
: trajectory (no more than 3-4 yds above ground). i have a much harder time to
: do the same with my hybrid.
: the other very useful place for 3i and 4i is for par 3s between 200 and 230
: yds. 3 wood and 5 wood are not designed for par 3s.
:
: use
| u*********r
发帖数: 2735 | 30 real NB. I only saw Camilo Villegas did that.
low
time
【在 ET 的大作中提到】
: 靠。。
: 这个太牛逼了。
:
: especially
: to
: 230
| | | n*****0
发帖数: 185 | 31 很牛。
恩。有道理， 有树的地方看来是3i玩的地方。
especially
to
230
【在 t****i 的大作中提到】
: I found my hybrid harder to control then my 3i. 3i is actually the most
: versatile club in my bag, i use it for a lot of scrambling shots especially
: those have to go far and low. i can hit a 3i to run to 200+ with very low
: trajectory (no more than 3-4 yds above ground). i have a much harder time to
: do the same with my hybrid.
: the other very useful place for 3i and 4i is for par 3s between 200 and 230
: yds. 3 wood and 5 wood are not designed for par 3s.
:
: use
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