p*******i
发帖数: 190 | 1 背景：
computer engineering major, networking方向
2009 US Phd. 现postdoc两年，给了assistant specialist title
5 journals, (3 first author,1ToN，1ACM CCR，1computer networks Elsevier）2
second author in Transaction on Wireless communications，13 conference
proceedings, (没有牛会，大多是wcnc, icc etc.) 8 first author, 2 posters, 2
tech reports
Google Scholar reports only 45 citations in total, 30 independent
review: 50+ for 3 journals, 5 conferences. 主要来自两journals, 老板是editor.
有一个 Exemplary Reviewer for IEEE Communication Letters 2010
1 pending patent
2 time TPC member 2 time session chair
Phd及薄厚期间的项目都是Boeing的，应该可以要到推荐信，不知道有没有用。
有很多来信要code的，可是因为Boeing项目不允许release code,估计少了不少
citations.
推荐信还没准备,打算美国3，澳大利亚1，欧洲1，印度1，中国1/2
因为不是tenure track faculty，申请EB1B需要学校批准。结果学校拿去给关系律所评
估，杯具了。没被USCIS RFE, 先被律师RFE了，sigh。下面是律师的评估，求建议如
何argue.
Dr. xx has only held a Ph.D. for 2 years. The USCIS places very little
weight on cases where the beneficiary has fewer than 4-5 years of post-
doctoral research. This short post-doctoral period will present a major
challenge in and of itself. （这个貌似有人说从发第一篇paper开始算，有官方/权
威出处么？）But in addition, please note that Dr. xx is the author of only 3
journal papers (直接忽略我的2作journal),which is a negligible amount
according to USCIS's expectations. (USCIS will ask the very reasonable
question, "How is it that this person can be said to be of international
acclaim and a major voice or influence in his field with only a few journal
publications to his name?") (这个USCIS's expectations 是多少呀？)
while Dr. xx has more listings under "conference proceedings", please note
that such activities receive little to no weight from the USCIS, while
journal papers and book chapters receive a lot of weight. (这个是真的么？会
议如此不堪么？大家都是journal？怎么argue呀)Also, please note that IEEE is
not considered an elite society by the USCIS, so Dr. xx's membership in IEEE
will receive little to no weight.（nnd, 我只是列在CV里，又没有打算claim.律
师有病!）接着还攻击了我的两个travel grants，也是列在CV里，没打算claim的。最
后来了句：Overall, there are significant dearth of evidence to suggest that
Dr. xx has, at this stage of career, amassed the credentials and original
research achievements necessary to be classified as an "outstanding
researcher". 无语了，是不是我真的不行呀。求评估及建议。 谢谢。 | T*******y
发帖数: 6523 | 2 This lawyer spoke only non-sense. He doesn't know about CE major at all.
1. Conference proceedings count, some are better than journals. Have you
got all those paper acceptance emails? They often include the acceptance
rate. If it's below 30%, you can highlight them. There's an article in
ACM talking about the fact that these conferences are better than many
journals.
2. Even fresh Ph.D. can apply for EB1. Outstanding research experience
counts (no degree is ever mentioned). This is in 140 instruction. You
can search for a recent post where a M.S. degree is also fine to get
EB1A approved, but of course with other evidences to prove the quality
of your research.
3. Non-1st-author papers also count.
As you mentioned, IEEE membership and the travel awards should not be
mentioned. You may put the travel awards in your CV only, and the IEEE
membership perhaps is not needed, even in CV.
【在 p*******i 的大作中提到】
: 背景：
: computer engineering major, networking方向
: 2009 US Phd. 现postdoc两年，给了assistant specialist title
: 5 journals, (3 first author,1ToN，1ACM CCR，1computer networks Elsevier）2
: second author in Transaction on Wireless communications，13 conference
: proceedings, (没有牛会，大多是wcnc, icc etc.) 8 first author, 2 posters, 2
: tech reports
: Google Scholar reports only 45 citations in total, 30 independent
: review: 50+ for 3 journals, 5 conferences. 主要来自两journals, 老板是editor.
: 有一个 Exemplary Reviewer for IEEE Communication Letters 2010
| C*******d
发帖数: 3345 | 3 背景1B足够了
editor.
【在 p*******i 的大作中提到】
: 背景：
: computer engineering major, networking方向
: 2009 US Phd. 现postdoc两年，给了assistant specialist title
: 5 journals, (3 first author,1ToN，1ACM CCR，1computer networks Elsevier）2
: second author in Transaction on Wireless communications，13 conference
: proceedings, (没有牛会，大多是wcnc, icc etc.) 8 first author, 2 posters, 2
: tech reports
: Google Scholar reports only 45 citations in total, 30 independent
: review: 50+ for 3 journals, 5 conferences. 主要来自两journals, 老板是editor.
: 有一个 Exemplary Reviewer for IEEE Communication Letters 2010
| D****9
发帖数: 10889 | | w*********m
发帖数: 4740 | 5 The fact is most of my cs friend got eb1b approved within one year of phd
graduation with few journal papers.
editor.
【在 p*******i 的大作中提到】
: 背景：
: computer engineering major, networking方向
: 2009 US Phd. 现postdoc两年，给了assistant specialist title
: 5 journals, (3 first author,1ToN，1ACM CCR，1computer networks Elsevier）2
: second author in Transaction on Wireless communications，13 conference
: proceedings, (没有牛会，大多是wcnc, icc etc.) 8 first author, 2 posters, 2
: tech reports
: Google Scholar reports only 45 citations in total, 30 independent
: review: 50+ for 3 journals, 5 conferences. 主要来自两journals, 老板是editor.
: 有一个 Exemplary Reviewer for IEEE Communication Letters 2010
| m*********t
发帖数: 1250 | 6 个人觉得这个律师对CpE专业的申请不太在行，他的观点应该是针对一些基础学科基本只
发Journal，而Conference都是只是Abstract的情况～ 毋庸置疑的是，在CpE领域，大家
每年拼命赶deadline发的都是Top Conferences～
Check the paper below:
Conference Paper Selectivity and Impact
by By Jilin Chen and Joseph A. Konstan
june 2010 | vol. 53 | no. 6 | communications of the acm
editor.
【在 p*******i 的大作中提到】
: 背景：
: computer engineering major, networking方向
: 2009 US Phd. 现postdoc两年，给了assistant specialist title
: 5 journals, (3 first author,1ToN，1ACM CCR，1computer networks Elsevier）2
: second author in Transaction on Wireless communications，13 conference
: proceedings, (没有牛会，大多是wcnc, icc etc.) 8 first author, 2 posters, 2
: tech reports
: Google Scholar reports only 45 citations in total, 30 independent
: review: 50+ for 3 journals, 5 conferences. 主要来自两journals, 老板是editor.
: 有一个 Exemplary Reviewer for IEEE Communication Letters 2010
| m*********t
发帖数: 1250 | 7 BTW: forgot to say cheer up and good luck with your EB1B application! Look f
orward to your update of success news!:)
本只
大家
【在 m*********t 的大作中提到】
: 个人觉得这个律师对CpE专业的申请不太在行，他的观点应该是针对一些基础学科基本只
: 发Journal，而Conference都是只是Abstract的情况～ 毋庸置疑的是，在CpE领域，大家
: 每年拼命赶deadline发的都是Top Conferences～
: Check the paper below:
: Conference Paper Selectivity and Impact
: by By Jilin Chen and Joseph A. Konstan
: june 2010 | vol. 53 | no. 6 | communications of the acm
:
: editor.
| p*******l
发帖数: 2495 | 8 I think you can get some free evaluations from other lawyers and give the
evaluation results from several other lawyers to your school to convince
them.
The lawyer that your school consulted with seems not very experienced. If
possible, don't let him to work on your case even your school agrees to
support you. | h**********l
发帖数: 6342 | 9 跟我的背景差不多
1b应该没问题
editor.
【在 p*******i 的大作中提到】
: 背景：
: computer engineering major, networking方向
: 2009 US Phd. 现postdoc两年，给了assistant specialist title
: 5 journals, (3 first author,1ToN，1ACM CCR，1computer networks Elsevier）2
: second author in Transaction on Wireless communications，13 conference
: proceedings, (没有牛会，大多是wcnc, icc etc.) 8 first author, 2 posters, 2
: tech reports
: Google Scholar reports only 45 citations in total, 30 independent
: review: 50+ for 3 journals, 5 conferences. 主要来自两journals, 老板是editor.
: 有一个 Exemplary Reviewer for IEEE Communication Letters 2010
| g*******3
发帖数: 2520 | 10 别听这律师的，Y就想省事，上去写几句话就过的case要你律师干鸟啊。
都是要找闪光点的，你的case,好好present,过了。 | | | p*******i
发帖数: 190 | 11 兄弟，谢了，可我得说服学校不听这律师呀。貌似这是我们学校的合同律师，所以我才觉得更难。学校管这事儿的只听律师的。
【在 g*******3 的大作中提到】
: 别听这律师的，Y就想省事，上去写几句话就过的case要你律师干鸟啊。
: 都是要找闪光点的，你的case,好好present,过了。
| p*******i
发帖数: 190 | 12 Thanks for you comments and bless, majiaknight. The good thing is that my
supervisor supports me to fight back. The hard part is I have to argue
against the lawyer.
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【在 m*********t 的大作中提到】
: BTW: forgot to say cheer up and good luck with your EB1B application! Look f
: orward to your update of success news!:)
:
: 本只
: 大家
| g*******3
发帖数: 2520 | 13 自己开车到他的律师事物行约见一次，带上你的材料和你的idea,把你怎么想的，那些
是闪光点和他讲讲。一般不是特操蛋的律师，会被说服.
才觉得更难。学校管这事儿的只听律师的。
【在 p*******i 的大作中提到】
: 兄弟，谢了，可我得说服学校不听这律师呀。貌似这是我们学校的合同律师，所以我才觉得更难。学校管这事儿的只听律师的。
| p*******i
发帖数: 190 | 14 Agree, most ppl here are aware of this fact. I am wondering if there are any
offical/public statistics about this avaiable. I have to convince the
stupid univ. lawyer first to start.
【在 w*********m 的大作中提到】
: The fact is most of my cs friend got eb1b approved within one year of phd
: graduation with few journal papers.
:
: editor.
| p*******i
发帖数: 190 | 15 Thanks, this is a good idea. Hopefully I can get some positive feedbacks.
【在 p*******l 的大作中提到】
: I think you can get some free evaluations from other lawyers and give the
: evaluation results from several other lawyers to your school to convince
: them.
: The lawyer that your school consulted with seems not very experienced. If
: possible, don't let him to work on your case even your school agrees to
: support you.
| p*******i
发帖数: 190 | 16 这个怎么具体argue呀。律师说了The USCIS places very little weight on cases
where the beneficiary has fewer than 4-5 years of post-doctoral research.
This short post-doctoral period will present a major challenge in and of
itself. 能找到判例和法律依据么？尽管我们都知道很多人刚毕业就申请了，可到哪里
找正式一些证据呢？我觉得这个和要求工作三年的具体要求不太一样学校可能会认为这
是律师根据经验作出的判断。读过AAO判例的说说里面有类似的么？谢了。
editor.
【在 p*******i 的大作中提到】
: 背景：
: computer engineering major, networking方向
: 2009 US Phd. 现postdoc两年，给了assistant specialist title
: 5 journals, (3 first author,1ToN，1ACM CCR，1computer networks Elsevier）2
: second author in Transaction on Wireless communications，13 conference
: proceedings, (没有牛会，大多是wcnc, icc etc.) 8 first author, 2 posters, 2
: tech reports
: Google Scholar reports only 45 citations in total, 30 independent
: review: 50+ for 3 journals, 5 conferences. 主要来自两journals, 老板是editor.
: 有一个 Exemplary Reviewer for IEEE Communication Letters 2010
| s*****o
发帖数: 1540 | 17 go to tell your lawyer to fuck himself up and die now. | y******1
发帖数: 1167 | 18 check your inbox for my message | p*******i
发帖数: 190 | 19 yisa2011, could you please send it again since I found nothing new in my
inbox? Thanks.
【在 y******1 的大作中提到】
: check your inbox for my message
| h*******s
发帖数: 560 | 20 你在啥学校，是不是你们学校的faculty都被比较牛啊，这律师办牛case多了，觉得你
这个就不行了啊。找他谈吧，找出回信中他扯淡的证据，跟他争吧。 | y****i
发帖数: 12114 | 21 千万不要 tell your lawyer to fuck himself up and die now。
毕竟，如你所说，很大可能最后还是要这个律师处理你的申请，你现在就把关系弄僵，
对你没有什么好处。除非你100％确定你可以自己请律师，否则目前逞一时意气，只会
坏事。况且，就算换律师，你还是有可能被律师说这说那的，总得忍着点不是？把律师
弄毛了，他／她在材料里弄点手脚，让你收RFE，甚至被拒，对律师来说没什么，对你
来说就意味着几年的光阴白白溜走。
据理力争就行。你可以告诉你的律师你的专业特性，论文特殊性，自己发掘你的闪光点
，然后征询他／她的看法。毕竟，eb1b这类申请，和专业知识很接近，你指望律师帮你
找到你的亮点和过人之处，是不现实的。
不要一上去就让他／她感觉你嫌他／她水平不够。也不要怀着战斗的心态去和律师谈。
也许像hilarious说的，这个律师没有什么恶意，只是见过的申请人都比较牛，所以就
觉得你不太够资格。 |
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