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Jason (JRider) 于 (Wed Mar 26 13:33:30 2014, 美东) 提到:
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB1000142405270230394970457
"'I will run it off'—that attitude clearly prevails among the marathoners
themselves, almost sometimes to an arrogance," said Paul Thompson, a veteran
marathoner who is chief of cardiology at Hartford Hospital.
A growing body of research shows the error of that thinking. A study
published in the current edition of Missouri Medicine found that 50 men who
had run at least one marathon a year for 25 years had higher levels of
coronary-artery plaque than a control group of sedentary men. A British
Medical Journal study published this year compared the carotid arteries of
42 Boston Marathon qualifiers with their much-less active spouses. "We
hypothesized that the runners would have a more favourable atherosclerotic
risk profile," says the article. As it turned out, that hypothesis was wrong
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Rodimus (变叔 - 永动机器) 于 (Wed Mar 26 13:46:24 2014, 美东) 提到:
废话，举重的更不能乱吃..
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Rodimus (变叔 - 永动机器) 于 (Wed Mar 26 13:48:09 2014, 美东) 提到:
跑黑整天弄些不具代表性的数据没毛用，runner平均来说就是比你们不跑步的身体好,
period
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Jason (JRider) 于 (Wed Mar 26 14:02:22 2014, 美东) 提到:
Am I overly sensitive or is there unwarranted hostility in your replies? Why
can't you take it a bit more nicely and at least consider discussing a
coronary artery scan with your physician?
The whole point why I post this article is that as runners you AND ME might
feel healthy. Heck we might look healthy. But chances are things are not
always what they look like.
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wolfgangyang (漂泊的狼) 于 (Wed Mar 26 14:12:42 2014, 美东) 提到:
俺一看这题目就反应同样两个字：废话
哈哈
俺是跑步才开始看营养书的
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Rodimus (变叔 - 永动机器) 于 (Wed Mar 26 14:15:17 2014, 美东) 提到:
我对跑黑没好脸，你跑步？一周跑多少？你又怎么知道我不体检？？
很不幸, 我跑ultra也没把雄激素跑没, 脾气就是大....
serious runner吃东西比普通人注意得多，你首帖说的就是废话，仅此而已..
打个wsj或者nature的牌子, 讲几句E文, 不代表你说的就不是废话...
Why
might
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Rodimus (变叔 - 永动机器) 于 (Wed Mar 26 14:17:09 2014, 美东) 提到:
跑不快身体又差的人，总喜欢各种角度诋毁runner, 获得心理平衡...
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Nisemono (Nisemono) 于 (Wed Mar 26 15:58:34 2014, 美东) 提到:
赞！跑Ultra这一条太拽了。
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seabottle (half empty) 于 (Wed Mar 26 17:07:21 2014, 美东) 提到:
跑步跟血管健康的关系不好说，不过看来对心智发育的确没什么帮助。
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Rodimus (变叔 - 永动机器) 于 (Wed Mar 26 17:11:39 2014, 美东) 提到:
那就别跑了呗，跑步这么不好你还跑啥？想变痴呆？
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manyhuar (许多花儿) 于 (Wed Mar 26 17:13:32 2014, 美东) 提到:
就是，最好也别来跑版了
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Rodimus (变叔 - 永动机器) 于 (Wed Mar 26 17:27:37 2014, 美东) 提到:
一边喊着跑步这不好那不好，一边又哭着喊着要跑的，我真怀疑是不是心智有问题...
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jackwolfskin (会飞的老狼皮) 于 (Wed Mar 26 17:34:27 2014, 美东) 提到:
nc记者只看标题，abstract都没有看，或者看完没有明白。
这篇文章在这里，
http://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/4/2/e004498.full.pdf
文章作者总结的结果：
Multiple cardiovascular risk factors, including CRP, non-high-density lipopr
otein cholesterol, triglycerides, heart rate, body weight and body mass inde
x (all p<0.05), were reduced in the runners.（这些都不是新知识）。 其他测量的
指标包括颈动脉硬化等没有区别。
我把文章作者自己的结论贴一下。
Conclusions: Habitual endurance exercise improves the cardiovascular risk pr
ofile, but does not reduce the magnitude of carotid atherosclerosis associat
ed with age and cardiovascular risk factors.
总之这是一个negative结果的试验。原作者预计runner的颈动脉硬化指标会比不跑的人
的好，最后测出来没有区别。颈动脉硬化指标只跟年龄有关。总之作者应该挺失望的，
所以这个文章标题取的含混不清。
veteran
who
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dash2000 (DASH) 于 (Wed Mar 26 17:40:33 2014, 美东) 提到:
要身体健康就不能乱吃。
跑步不跑步都不能乱吃，病从口入是有道理的。
吃啥和跑步的关系，我推荐看eat and run一书，我信。
跑步的人比不运动的人其实更注意饮食，不然很容易拉裤子的。。。哈
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Rodimus (变叔 - 永动机器) 于 (Wed Mar 26 17:46:45 2014, 美东) 提到:
跑黑最擅长的手法就是断章取义和歪曲事实...
不过说句实话, 不搞个吸引眼球的标题, 也难得发表啊, 记者也得吃饭啊...
LZ来跑版总共两次：
上次说跑步的人没雄激素，其实可能只是自己没雄激素..
这次说跑步的人心血管有问题，其实可能只是自己心血管有问题..
lipopr
inde
量的
pr
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Rodimus (变叔 - 永动机器) 于 (Wed Mar 26 17:52:40 2014, 美东) 提到:
靠，大使都浮出水面了...
serious runner对自己的体重和BF%的重视程度，以及对饮食的钻研/苛求，
是某些recreational runner无法理解的...
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yond (多跑步，少灌水！) 于 (Wed Mar 26 19:12:37 2014, 美东) 提到:
大使出来了怎么也要顶一下！
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seabottle (half empty) 于 (Wed Mar 26 20:28:00 2014, 美东) 提到:
对不起，我的不严谨让您生气了。如此说您这已经是属于进步了的情况了？
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seabottle (half empty) 于 (Wed Mar 26 20:39:16 2014, 美东) 提到:
I believe that OP simply posted something all runners could find interesting
and/or benefit from, but was unfairly treated. So tell me, are you too
biased to see that, or just too loyal to your biased friend?
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Rodimus (变叔 - 永动机器) 于 (Wed Mar 26 20:44:55 2014, 美东) 提到:
后面的回帖你看不懂么？还是不认得中国字？
对不起，你不光不严谨，你的痴呆程度跑步也救不了，早点去看医生吧...
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Rodimus (变叔 - 永动机器) 于 (Wed Mar 26 20:46:05 2014, 美东) 提到:
Your brain is too damaged to represent any runner, go see a Doctor...
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