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SanFrancisco版 - mercury news 的文章--脑残的ABC又给民主党做打手来了
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w*******r
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Opposition to affirmative action: California Asian Americans have forgotten
civil rights history by Janelle Wong
http://www.mercurynews.com/opinion/ci_25442457/opposition-affir
While educational disparities exist across different Asian groups in the
United States, a significant portion of the Asian-American community is
relatively advantaged compared to other groups when it comes to education.
Despite this group advantage, there was a tremendous outcry among some
influential Chinese American groups when California legislators recently
attempted to pass legislation to allow race-conscious university admissions.
Fearing that Asian-American applicants would be unfairly disadvantaged, the
groups lobbied Asian-American lawmakers, who initially had supported
affirmative action. The proposed legislation did not move forward.
It is tempting to think that Asian-American success depends only on our
efforts. As a graduate of UCLA and Yale, I can explain my own educational
trajectory with reference to my grandparents' sacrifices and their deep
belief in the value of education. After immigrating from China, my
grandfather worked as a janitor and my grandmother worked in a garment
factory. My father attended a segregated Chinatown school but eventually
graduated from San Francisco State.
But this "hardworking immigrants" narrative is only a small part of the
story. The opportunities my parents and I had were only possible because of
the long fight for civil rights and political recognition led by black
Americans. The university doors that I so easily walked through in 1995 were
opened by civil rights activists who demanded access for all Americans, not
just their own group. Yet many of the anti-affirmative action activists in
the Asian-American community seem to have forgotten this important history.
There is a more important reason that Asian-Americans should support
affirmative action: basic justice. In surveys, blacks, Latinos and Asian-
Americans report the same levels of expectation for graduating from college.
Blacks and Latinos also invest as much in and value education at the same
levels as Asian-Americans, once one controls for differential resources,
such as income.
Unless one asserts that there are differences in intellectual ability
between Asians and other groups, the best way to explain different levels of
educational attainment is to concede that there is something wrong with the
system as a whole. And there is something wrong.
For instance, a 2012 study of the Los Angeles Unified School District by
Education Trust-West shows that black and Latino students are much less
likely to be taught by highly effective teachers than white and Asian-
American students.
The disadvantage faced by black and Latino students largely is due to the
historical and contemporary policies that create economically and racially
segregated communities and schools. They can be attributed also to
immigration policies that recruit low-cost labor from Latin America.
Similarly, the educational advantage that characterizes many Asian-American
groups is due in large part to federal policies that selectively recruit
educated immigrants from Asia.
The educational gap between Asians and other groups, then, cannot be
explained solely through merit but must attend to public policies that
systematically advantage some groups and disadvantage others.
Do I want my own children to go to a great college or university? Of course.
But a highly selective university that includes only a handful of black and
Latino students will actually mean a worse educational environment for them
because it would rob them of the chance to develop a critical perspective
beyond their own racial group boundaries.
With more resources, our public universities could accommodate more black
and Latino students without sacrificing white and Asian-American "seats."
But until those resources are available, where Asian-Americans have
advantages, they should use that very real power to open more doors, not to
slam doors behind them.
Janelle Wong, who grew up in Yuba City, is director of Asian-American
studies at the University of Maryland and the author of three books on Asian
-Americans and politics. She wrote this for this newspaper.
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t*******e
发帖数: 1633
2
这些华人左棍真是自恨啊
w*******r
发帖数: 7276
3
自己上了UCLA和YALE,就要把同族人踢下去

【在 t*******e 的大作中提到】
: 这些华人左棍真是自恨啊
c*******8
发帖数: 707
4
这家伙难道不知道他要比黑莫白人sat多考400到700分才能上yale,这公平吗
他爸妈爷奶比黑墨白都穷都可怜,亚裔才是disadvantaged group

forgotten
admissions.

【在 w*******r 的大作中提到】
: Opposition to affirmative action: California Asian Americans have forgotten
: civil rights history by Janelle Wong
: http://www.mercurynews.com/opinion/ci_25442457/opposition-affir
: While educational disparities exist across different Asian groups in the
: United States, a significant portion of the Asian-American community is
: relatively advantaged compared to other groups when it comes to education.
: Despite this group advantage, there was a tremendous outcry among some
: influential Chinese American groups when California legislators recently
: attempted to pass legislation to allow race-conscious university admissions.
: Fearing that Asian-American applicants would be unfairly disadvantaged, the

w*******r
发帖数: 7276
5
她1995年上的UCLA,估计当年没那么难,都是chinatown打工仔的后代,根本没竞争力

【在 c*******8 的大作中提到】
: 这家伙难道不知道他要比黑莫白人sat多考400到700分才能上yale,这公平吗
: 他爸妈爷奶比黑墨白都穷都可怜,亚裔才是disadvantaged group
:
: forgotten
: admissions.

x***4
发帖数: 1815
6
其实挺讽刺的,大家努力让小孩上好的学校,结果读完出来成了自恨的脑残。

forgotten

【在 w*******r 的大作中提到】
: Opposition to affirmative action: California Asian Americans have forgotten
: civil rights history by Janelle Wong
: http://www.mercurynews.com/opinion/ci_25442457/opposition-affir
: While educational disparities exist across different Asian groups in the
: United States, a significant portion of the Asian-American community is
: relatively advantaged compared to other groups when it comes to education.
: Despite this group advantage, there was a tremendous outcry among some
: influential Chinese American groups when California legislators recently
: attempted to pass legislation to allow race-conscious university admissions.
: Fearing that Asian-American applicants would be unfairly disadvantaged, the

X******2
发帖数: 5859
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娘卖笔的,一个想借这个机会出名的婊子。
这篇文章几乎每一句话都有漏洞或是语焉不详。

forgotten
admissions.

【在 w*******r 的大作中提到】
: Opposition to affirmative action: California Asian Americans have forgotten
: civil rights history by Janelle Wong
: http://www.mercurynews.com/opinion/ci_25442457/opposition-affir
: While educational disparities exist across different Asian groups in the
: United States, a significant portion of the Asian-American community is
: relatively advantaged compared to other groups when it comes to education.
: Despite this group advantage, there was a tremendous outcry among some
: influential Chinese American groups when California legislators recently
: attempted to pass legislation to allow race-conscious university admissions.
: Fearing that Asian-American applicants would be unfairly disadvantaged, the

p**j
发帖数: 7063
8
所以大家要好好教育小孩的政治智慧,千万不能只会读书,读傻了,受学校里面左棍洗
脑,到时候反过来反自己人。

【在 x***4 的大作中提到】
: 其实挺讽刺的,大家努力让小孩上好的学校,结果读完出来成了自恨的脑残。
:
: forgotten

Z*****l
发帖数: 14069
9
仔细一看是校友。真是丢人啊。
B****Q
发帖数: 142
10
我能说认识不少UCLA的真的很讨厌校园里亚裔多,真的很认同AA嘛。
认识UCB毕业的ABC更是坚定的民主党拥护者,即使不同意SCA5也同样拥护民主党。
哎,哎。。
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g****s
发帖数: 340
11
自恨父母教育出来的自恨小孩。没办法。

【在 B****Q 的大作中提到】
: 我能说认识不少UCLA的真的很讨厌校园里亚裔多,真的很认同AA嘛。
: 认识UCB毕业的ABC更是坚定的民主党拥护者,即使不同意SCA5也同样拥护民主党。
: 哎,哎。。

M*****t
发帖数: 1842
12
价值观和受到的教育不一样,他们看到的美国和这里的ID看到的美国是不一样的。

【在 B****Q 的大作中提到】
: 我能说认识不少UCLA的真的很讨厌校园里亚裔多,真的很认同AA嘛。
: 认识UCB毕业的ABC更是坚定的民主党拥护者,即使不同意SCA5也同样拥护民主党。
: 哎,哎。。

M*****t
发帖数: 1842
13
很多中国来的老古董,也只有在中文网络上发泄,完全和美国的价值观脱节,这些老古
董,只会等来后代的“背叛”,因为真正的美国人,不会成为老古董。

【在 p**j 的大作中提到】
: 所以大家要好好教育小孩的政治智慧,千万不能只会读书,读傻了,受学校里面左棍洗
: 脑,到时候反过来反自己人。

x****o
发帖数: 29677
14

是啊,他们看到从小爬提抽大麻,乱交生孩子的美国,感觉生活如此轻松,等上大学发
现一起抽大麻睡女人的白人靠爹妈进了藤校,一起吃喝完了的黑墨靠AA也进去了,自己
明明高了那么多分就是进不去
等工作发现白哥们靠爹妈进了XX大公司,黑墨坐下来吃福利生孩子,自己除了干每小时
10刀的快餐店工作,啥也不行

【在 M*****t 的大作中提到】
: 价值观和受到的教育不一样,他们看到的美国和这里的ID看到的美国是不一样的。
F******p
发帖数: 2099
15
加州ABC基本上都恨学校亚裔太多。
a******e
发帖数: 36306
16
早年游过来的和后来职业移民的矛盾。。。

forgotten
admissions.
the

【在 w*******r 的大作中提到】
: Opposition to affirmative action: California Asian Americans have forgotten
: civil rights history by Janelle Wong
: http://www.mercurynews.com/opinion/ci_25442457/opposition-affir
: While educational disparities exist across different Asian groups in the
: United States, a significant portion of the Asian-American community is
: relatively advantaged compared to other groups when it comes to education.
: Despite this group advantage, there was a tremendous outcry among some
: influential Chinese American groups when California legislators recently
: attempted to pass legislation to allow race-conscious university admissions.
: Fearing that Asian-American applicants would be unfairly disadvantaged, the

l*******g
发帖数: 27064
17
中国人都这德行,清华北大的一样希望上来的更少
因为和同族比,自己弄不好就被比下去了
和黑墨同学比,那是优越感十足啊

【在 F******p 的大作中提到】
: 加州ABC基本上都恨学校亚裔太多。
s*******s
发帖数: 9926
18
Janelle Wong, who grew up in Yuba City, is director of Asian-American
studies at the University of Maryland and the author of three books on Asian
-Americans and politics. She wrote this for this newspaper.
这个女的根本不在加州 她们那里早就有SCA5了
所以事不关己讲这风凉话
t***h
发帖数: 2924
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关键是父母没教好.不为华人孩子们这么优秀而自豪,反而为此自恨,
觉得华人孩子上好大学的太多了,看着碍眼.
我们要教孩子华人是美国最优秀的种群,看到别的华人孩子要有这种
光荣意识.要互相支持和扶助.

Asian

【在 s*******s 的大作中提到】
: Janelle Wong, who grew up in Yuba City, is director of Asian-American
: studies at the University of Maryland and the author of three books on Asian
: -Americans and politics. She wrote this for this newspaper.
: 这个女的根本不在加州 她们那里早就有SCA5了
: 所以事不关己讲这风凉话

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