k****3
发帖数: 2770 | 1 去年发球练多了，老用同一个关节，搞的冬天时膝盖开始痛，恐怕软骨磨损了不少。现
在夏天来了感觉好一些，同时最近也开始吃这个补关节软骨的supplement，虽然才几天
，但是觉得效果已经体现出来，至少打完球膝盖不怎么痛了，下蹲也不那么痛苦。有这
方面问题的可以考虑下。
http://www.amazon.com/Cosamin-DS-Supplement-Capsules-210-Count/ |
d*g
发帖数: 16592 | 2 66刀，真不便宜啊，我就在sams club买那种骨胶原，和这个有差别么？ |
g*****y
发帖数: 7271 | 3 这得你来总结啊，自己感觉有效没有，有效的话我也去买点吃。ken买的是有够贵。
【在 d*g 的大作中提到】
: 66刀，真不便宜啊，我就在sams club买那种骨胶原，和这个有差别么？
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k****3
发帖数: 2770 | 4 我查过很多review，这个是最多sport physician和骨医推荐的，你可以看看review。
至少我吃了几天，效果很好。不知道1-2个月后是否会完全不同了。
【在 d*g 的大作中提到】
: 66刀，真不便宜啊，我就在sams club买那种骨胶原，和这个有差别么？
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k****3
发帖数: 2770 | 5 这个的确非常贵，这种东西，还是买贵的评价高的好，毕竟身体重要，呵呵。
有过几次买东西经验后，我开始相信便宜一般没好货，好货不便宜。
【在 g*****y 的大作中提到】
: 这得你来总结啊，自己感觉有效没有，有效的话我也去买点吃。ken买的是有够贵。
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B******a
发帖数: 601 | 6 You can buy Move Free from Costco or some drug store which is not that
expensive. Both have similar ingredients: Glucosamine and chondroitin.
Glucosamine the key ingredient. It is approved by Europe for joint treatment. However FDA still is studying it and not approve it yet.
I have taken Move Free for many years and it works for me.
【在 d*g 的大作中提到】
: 66刀，真不便宜啊，我就在sams club买那种骨胶原，和这个有差别么？
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k****3
发帖数: 2770 | 7 I think Cosamin DS is FDA approved, and find no side effect after several
studies.
treatment. However FDA still is studying it and not approve it yet.
【在 B******a 的大作中提到】
: You can buy Move Free from Costco or some drug store which is not that
: expensive. Both have similar ingredients: Glucosamine and chondroitin.
: Glucosamine the key ingredient. It is approved by Europe for joint treatment. However FDA still is studying it and not approve it yet.
: I have taken Move Free for many years and it works for me.
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B******a
发帖数: 601 | 8 I don't know. Usually supplement does not required FDA approval.Since it is still marked as Supplement, most likely it is not FDA approved. But I i am not expert in medicine. Your rivalry should know it much better:--)
I just did a little research online, it seems it is not approved from FDA. Yo can read the whole piece, but the key point is the following:
"These statements have not been evaluated by the Food & Drug Administration. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease."
CosaminDS has been shown in controlled, published studies to be safe, effective, and easily absorbed. CosaminDS contains the highest quality ingredients found in joint health supplements. CosaminDS is produced following manufacturing standards practiced by the pharmaceutical industry. CosaminDS has earned the Good Housekeeping Seal. All of these factors point to CosaminDS, the best and most economical joint health supplement.
Tips from the FDA The FDA has advice at www.cfsan.fda.gov/~dms/ds-savvy.html on purchasing nutritional supplements. In summary, they suggest contacting the manufacturer and finding out the following:
Can the product claims be substantiated? Is information available on the safety and efficacy of the ingredients in the product? Is a quality control system in place such that the product contains what is stated on the label and is free of contaminants? CosaminDS meets ALL of these guidelines!
* Sources: Surveys conducted by Orthopedics Today of Orthopedic Surgeons and Rheumatologists in April, 2000, November, 2001, and July 2003 relating to glucosamine/chondroitin sulfate brands. CosaminDS is the #1 glucosamine/chondroitin sulfate brand on the Pharmacy Times® OTC Products 2001-2003 survey of pharmacists recommendations.
These statements have not been evaluated by the Food & Drug Administration. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease.
【在 k****3 的大作中提到】
: I think Cosamin DS is FDA approved, and find no side effect after several
: studies.
:
: treatment. However FDA still is studying it and not approve it yet.
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k****3
发帖数: 2770 | 9 Haha, I better not to trust him.
I might want to test out Move Free after I finish my Cosamin bottle. It's
lot cheaper. Want to see how effective is Move Free compare to Cosamin. Well
, that won't be happen until another month or two.
is
【在 B******a 的大作中提到】
: I don't know. Usually supplement does not required FDA approval.Since it is still marked as Supplement, most likely it is not FDA approved. But I i am not expert in medicine. Your rivalry should know it much better:--)
: I just did a little research online, it seems it is not approved from FDA. Yo can read the whole piece, but the key point is the following:
: "These statements have not been evaluated by the Food & Drug Administration. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease."
: CosaminDS has been shown in controlled, published studies to be safe, effective, and easily absorbed. CosaminDS contains the highest quality ingredients found in joint health supplements. CosaminDS is produced following manufacturing standards practiced by the pharmaceutical industry. CosaminDS has earned the Good Housekeeping Seal. All of these factors point to CosaminDS, the best and most economical joint health supplement.
: Tips from the FDA The FDA has advice at www.cfsan.fda.gov/~dms/ds-savvy.html on purchasing nutritional supplements. In summary, they suggest contacting the manufacturer and finding out the following:
: Can the product claims be substantiated? Is information available on the safety and efficacy of the ingredients in the product? Is a quality control system in place such that the product contains what is stated on the label and is free of contaminants? CosaminDS meets ALL of these guidelines!
: * Sources: Surveys conducted by Orthopedics Today of Orthopedic Surgeons and Rheumatologists in April, 2000, November, 2001, and July 2003 relating to glucosamine/chondroitin sulfate brands. CosaminDS is the #1 glucosamine/chondroitin sulfate brand on the Pharmacy Times® OTC Products 2001-2003 survey of pharmacists recommendations.
: These statements have not been evaluated by the Food & Drug Administration. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease.
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h*******s
发帖数: 8454 | 10 关于这个问题，刚好前段时间逛西西河的时候看到个thread，给大家看看
http://www.ccthere.com/thread/977450
不知道你这个具体配方和其他的有啥区别，我吃的costco自己的，也有些效果
【在 k****3 的大作中提到】
: 去年发球练多了，老用同一个关节，搞的冬天时膝盖开始痛，恐怕软骨磨损了不少。现
: 在夏天来了感觉好一些，同时最近也开始吃这个补关节软骨的supplement，虽然才几天
: ，但是觉得效果已经体现出来，至少打完球膝盖不怎么痛了，下蹲也不那么痛苦。有这
: 方面问题的可以考虑下。
: http://www.amazon.com/Cosamin-DS-Supplement-Capsules-210-Count/
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b*****t
发帖数: 758 | 11 I am taking move free right now. I found that the move free premium works
better than its regular version. But I still feel something from time to
time. May try this more expensive supplement after I am done with my bottle.
【在 k****3 的大作中提到】
: 去年发球练多了，老用同一个关节，搞的冬天时膝盖开始痛，恐怕软骨磨损了不少。现
: 在夏天来了感觉好一些，同时最近也开始吃这个补关节软骨的supplement，虽然才几天
: ，但是觉得效果已经体现出来，至少打完球膝盖不怎么痛了，下蹲也不那么痛苦。有这
: 方面问题的可以考虑下。
: http://www.amazon.com/Cosamin-DS-Supplement-Capsules-210-Count/
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k****3
发帖数: 2770 | 12 hmm...interesting. I do see some comments from various sources that states this product is FDA approved. Anyway, I guess just like you said, supplement does not required FDA approval, so it doesn't really matter.
is still marked as Supplement, most likely it is not FDA approved. But I i
am not expert in medicine. Your rivalry should know it much better:--)
Yo can read the whole piece, but the key point is the following:
Administration. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or
prevent any disease."
effective, and easily absorbed. CosaminDS contains the highest quality
ingredients found in joint health supplements. CosaminDS is produced
following manufacturing standards practiced by the pharmaceutical industry.
CosaminDS has earned the Good Housekeeping Seal. All of these factors point
to CosaminDS, the best and most economical joint health supplement.
html on purchasing nutritional supplements. In summary, they suggest
contacting the manufacturer and finding out the following:
safety and efficacy of the ingredients in the product? Is a quality control
system in place such that the product contains what is stated on the label
and is free of contaminants? CosaminDS meets ALL of these guidelines!
and Rheumatologists in April, 2000, November, 2001, and July 2003 relating
to glucosamine/chondroitin sulfate brands. CosaminDS is the #1 glucosamine/
chondroitin sulfate brand on the Pharmacy Times® OTC Products 2001-2003
survey of pharmacists recommendations.
. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any
disease.
【在 B******a 的大作中提到】
: I don't know. Usually supplement does not required FDA approval.Since it is still marked as Supplement, most likely it is not FDA approved. But I i am not expert in medicine. Your rivalry should know it much better:--)
: I just did a little research online, it seems it is not approved from FDA. Yo can read the whole piece, but the key point is the following:
: "These statements have not been evaluated by the Food & Drug Administration. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease."
: CosaminDS has been shown in controlled, published studies to be safe, effective, and easily absorbed. CosaminDS contains the highest quality ingredients found in joint health supplements. CosaminDS is produced following manufacturing standards practiced by the pharmaceutical industry. CosaminDS has earned the Good Housekeeping Seal. All of these factors point to CosaminDS, the best and most economical joint health supplement.
: Tips from the FDA The FDA has advice at www.cfsan.fda.gov/~dms/ds-savvy.html on purchasing nutritional supplements. In summary, they suggest contacting the manufacturer and finding out the following:
: Can the product claims be substantiated? Is information available on the safety and efficacy of the ingredients in the product? Is a quality control system in place such that the product contains what is stated on the label and is free of contaminants? CosaminDS meets ALL of these guidelines!
: * Sources: Surveys conducted by Orthopedics Today of Orthopedic Surgeons and Rheumatologists in April, 2000, November, 2001, and July 2003 relating to glucosamine/chondroitin sulfate brands. CosaminDS is the #1 glucosamine/chondroitin sulfate brand on the Pharmacy Times® OTC Products 2001-2003 survey of pharmacists recommendations.
: These statements have not been evaluated by the Food & Drug Administration. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease.
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s****y
发帖数: 939 | |
d*g
发帖数: 16592 | 14 我自己的总结是，不知道有没有效果，因为我自己多管齐下，所以是综合效果还是其中
某个因素的作
用，就不知道了。
1 膝盖有感觉但是还没有疼就立刻休息，每天拿热水泡脚（我不太感冒冰敷这个方法）
2 减轻体重，目前比我膝盖受伤时候体重小20lb
3 加强腿部肌肉力量训练，每周至少一次专门练腿部肌肉的，还慢跑2次。
4 吃骨胶原（我比较健忘，经常忘记吃，也有忘记吃没吃，一天可能吃2次的时候）
所以，现在膝盖一直没有bother我，比如昨天，上午晚上各打1次球，共7小时，今天大
臂和肩膀有
些酸胀，但是膝盖没有问题。
【在 g*****y 的大作中提到】
: 这得你来总结啊，自己感觉有效没有，有效的话我也去买点吃。ken买的是有够贵。
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f*****n
发帖数: 18176 | 15 2和3百分之一百有效4，看到一篇文章只对50%的人有效。所以现在不吃了只focus在2和
3上。减肥主要靠喝酒。
练腿主要靠游泳
【在 d*g 的大作中提到】
: 我自己的总结是，不知道有没有效果，因为我自己多管齐下，所以是综合效果还是其中
: 某个因素的作
: 用，就不知道了。
: 1 膝盖有感觉但是还没有疼就立刻休息，每天拿热水泡脚（我不太感冒冰敷这个方法）
: 2 减轻体重，目前比我膝盖受伤时候体重小20lb
: 3 加强腿部肌肉力量训练，每周至少一次专门练腿部肌肉的，还慢跑2次。
: 4 吃骨胶原（我比较健忘，经常忘记吃，也有忘记吃没吃，一天可能吃2次的时候）
: 所以，现在膝盖一直没有bother我，比如昨天，上午晚上各打1次球，共7小时，今天大
: 臂和肩膀有
: 些酸胀，但是膝盖没有问题。
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s****y
发帖数: 939 | 16
主要喝啥酒减肥阿? 推荐一下呗
【在 f*****n 的大作中提到】
: 2和3百分之一百有效4，看到一篇文章只对50%的人有效。所以现在不吃了只focus在2和
: 3上。减肥主要靠喝酒。
: 练腿主要靠游泳
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f*****n
发帖数: 18176 | 17 冬天红酒夏天啤酒。喝酒使我不吃米饭。
【在 s****y 的大作中提到】
:
: 主要喝啥酒减肥阿? 推荐一下呗
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f*****n
发帖数: 18176 | 18 在加一点，完事后一定拉伸。即使拉5分钟也比不拉强得多。
【在 f*****n 的大作中提到】
: 2和3百分之一百有效4，看到一篇文章只对50%的人有效。所以现在不吃了只focus在2和
: 3上。减肥主要靠喝酒。
: 练腿主要靠游泳
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c****t
发帖数: 5452 | 19 这一类的药有可能导致胆固醇升高，长期吃的话注意monitor |
N*****7
发帖数: 1899 | 20 谢谢推荐， 准备 试试， 我还腰痛 （LowerBack），但胆固醇也高：（
【在 k****3 的大作中提到】
: 去年发球练多了，老用同一个关节，搞的冬天时膝盖开始痛，恐怕软骨磨损了不少。现
: 在夏天来了感觉好一些，同时最近也开始吃这个补关节软骨的supplement，虽然才几天
: ，但是觉得效果已经体现出来，至少打完球膝盖不怎么痛了，下蹲也不那么痛苦。有这
: 方面问题的可以考虑下。
: http://www.amazon.com/Cosamin-DS-Supplement-Capsules-210-Count/
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L*****s
发帖数: 24744 | |
g****f
发帖数: 185 | |
b**k
发帖数: 11850 | 23 恩，我吃glucosamine日子算长了，从差不多6年前开始吧，那时候打球超过两个小时脚
踝陈伤就会疼，平时脚踝基本上可算天气预报，刮风下雨下雪变天都报。上网google了
一下，开始吃glucosamine，自我感觉逐渐变好，后来肌肉力量比以前好了，更好了不
少。唯一缺陷就是除了下雪，再也不报天气预报了
直到过去两年运动量有点大，又开始隐隐作痛。专门找了orthospaedics去看，结果那
老兄先拿着我的片子大加赞赏中国医生手术做得好，然后告诉我完全正常。我抱怨打球
时间长了脚踝会痛，他拿
个小板凳叫我平行移动练习脚部肌肉力量。ft，这个明明比不上比赛强度的1/n。完了
最后他说：对了，你是在吃glucosamine的吗？我告诉你，最近的研究结果表明那个没
用的，就是一安慰剂。你把剩下的吃光可以不用再买了，也就这样了。我。。。
【在 k****3 的大作中提到】
: 去年发球练多了，老用同一个关节，搞的冬天时膝盖开始痛，恐怕软骨磨损了不少。现
: 在夏天来了感觉好一些，同时最近也开始吃这个补关节软骨的supplement，虽然才几天
: ，但是觉得效果已经体现出来，至少打完球膝盖不怎么痛了，下蹲也不那么痛苦。有这
: 方面问题的可以考虑下。
: http://www.amazon.com/Cosamin-DS-Supplement-Capsules-210-Count/
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f*****n
发帖数: 18176 | 24 I have same experience.
After x ray and physical therapy, the doctor told me your knee is pretty
strong, don't need to come.
I paid 200-300 co-pay.
They massage,acupuncture and heat my knee.
【在 b**k 的大作中提到】
: 恩，我吃glucosamine日子算长了，从差不多6年前开始吧，那时候打球超过两个小时脚
: 踝陈伤就会疼，平时脚踝基本上可算天气预报，刮风下雨下雪变天都报。上网google了
: 一下，开始吃glucosamine，自我感觉逐渐变好，后来肌肉力量比以前好了，更好了不
: 少。唯一缺陷就是除了下雪，再也不报天气预报了
: 直到过去两年运动量有点大，又开始隐隐作痛。专门找了orthospaedics去看，结果那
: 老兄先拿着我的片子大加赞赏中国医生手术做得好，然后告诉我完全正常。我抱怨打球
: 时间长了脚踝会痛，他拿
: 个小板凳叫我平行移动练习脚部肌肉力量。ft，这个明明比不上比赛强度的1/n。完了
: 最后他说：对了，你是在吃glucosamine的吗？我告诉你，最近的研究结果表明那个没
: 用的，就是一安慰剂。你把剩下的吃光可以不用再买了，也就这样了。我。。。
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b**k
发帖数: 11850 | 25 那还不错了，他们至少给你服务了
我这个也就是告诉我不算老弱病残，其他都白费。。
【在 f*****n 的大作中提到】
: I have same experience.
: After x ray and physical therapy, the doctor told me your knee is pretty
: strong, don't need to come.
: I paid 200-300 co-pay.
: They massage,acupuncture and heat my knee.
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k****3
发帖数: 2770 | 26 这个的确需要注意，多谢提醒
【在 c****t 的大作中提到】
: 这一类的药有可能导致胆固醇升高，长期吃的话注意monitor
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k****3
发帖数: 2770 | 27 这个东西，想来成年人都能用吧。
【在 L*****s 的大作中提到】
: 我还没有奔三,能不能用呀?
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k****3
发帖数: 2770 | 28 这篇文看的好头晕，呵呵，个人觉得管用就行
【在 g****f 的大作中提到】
: 这玩意儿好像争议挺大
: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19903416
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k****3
发帖数: 2770 | 29 就吃了几天，至少觉得还真有些效果，想来应该不是心理作用吧！不过这类supplement需要长期吃，至少能有效果就好。
【在 b**k 的大作中提到】
: 恩，我吃glucosamine日子算长了，从差不多6年前开始吧，那时候打球超过两个小时脚
: 踝陈伤就会疼，平时脚踝基本上可算天气预报，刮风下雨下雪变天都报。上网google了
: 一下，开始吃glucosamine，自我感觉逐渐变好，后来肌肉力量比以前好了，更好了不
: 少。唯一缺陷就是除了下雪，再也不报天气预报了
: 直到过去两年运动量有点大，又开始隐隐作痛。专门找了orthospaedics去看，结果那
: 老兄先拿着我的片子大加赞赏中国医生手术做得好，然后告诉我完全正常。我抱怨打球
: 时间长了脚踝会痛，他拿
: 个小板凳叫我平行移动练习脚部肌肉力量。ft，这个明明比不上比赛强度的1/n。完了
: 最后他说：对了，你是在吃glucosamine的吗？我告诉你，最近的研究结果表明那个没
: 用的，就是一安慰剂。你把剩下的吃光可以不用再买了，也就这样了。我。。。
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r*******y
发帖数: 36 | 30 我有点怪，我打球的时候膝盖脚踝从来都不痛，但是我每次只要一去跑步机跑步就不行
了，左膝盖和右脚踝就有点儿吃不消…… 不过我打球的话有的时候跑动不是特别积极
。 所以我现在也觉得是不是应该采取点儿措施啊...... |
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v***s
发帖数: 1893 | 31 有止痛药成分。我吃两粒，第二天连肌肉都不痛了。
supplement需要长期吃，至少能有效果就好。
【在 k****3 的大作中提到】
: 就吃了几天，至少觉得还真有些效果，想来应该不是心理作用吧！不过这类supplement需要长期吃，至少能有效果就好。
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