w****3 发帖数: 232 | 1 面经已发
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/JobHunting/32130301.html
今天收到正式的offer,master 毕业一年,工作8个月,title offer里写的是SDE。
Salary:99750
Sign on:0
Stock: $4,500
relocation package.
请问有没有再去争取的必要和可能性?Base salary 我感觉对我来说不错了,比较现在
的工资涨了大约40%(现在不在东西岸)。 |
l*****a 发帖数: 14598 | 2 cong!!!
可以尝试要点sign-on + stock
否则就比fresh 差太多了
【在 w****3 的大作中提到】 : 面经已发 : http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/JobHunting/32130301.html : 今天收到正式的offer,master 毕业一年,工作8个月,title offer里写的是SDE。 : Salary:99750 : Sign on:0 : Stock: $4,500 : relocation package. : 请问有没有再去争取的必要和可能性?Base salary 我感觉对我来说不错了,比较现在 : 的工资涨了大约40%(现在不在东西岸)。
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r**********n 发帖数: 97 | 3 This offer is very weird. It looks like lvl 60 but a bit low. Recently, I
know couple lvl 60 new hire all get 100k+.
You can definitely work on sign on stock bonus. $4500 is way too low for a
new hire. You should shoot for $30k-$45k sign on bonus (cash + stock).
【在 w****3 的大作中提到】 : 面经已发 : http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/JobHunting/32130301.html : 今天收到正式的offer,master 毕业一年,工作8个月,title offer里写的是SDE。 : Salary:99750 : Sign on:0 : Stock: $4,500 : relocation package. : 请问有没有再去争取的必要和可能性?Base salary 我感觉对我来说不错了,比较现在 : 的工资涨了大约40%(现在不在东西岸)。
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l*****a 发帖数: 14598 | 4 so many experienced hire can only get <10K for sign-on stock
seems that is the policy unless HM likes u very much or u argued strongly.
【在 r**********n 的大作中提到】 : This offer is very weird. It looks like lvl 60 but a bit low. Recently, I : know couple lvl 60 new hire all get 100k+. : You can definitely work on sign on stock bonus. $4500 is way too low for a : new hire. You should shoot for $30k-$45k sign on bonus (cash + stock).
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h****e 发帖数: 928 | 5 似乎stock给的偏少,版上给出的一般offer是: |
l*****a 发帖数: 14598 | 6 你的是fresh
lz是按照experienced给的
【在 h****e 的大作中提到】 : 似乎stock给的偏少,版上给出的一般offer是:
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h****e 发帖数: 928 | 7 但是看起来整个package还要低一些。
【在 l*****a 的大作中提到】 : 你的是fresh : lz是按照experienced给的
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l*****a 发帖数: 14598 | 9 不奇怪啊
很多在里面干了5-6年的都没有fresh的offer高
【在 h****e 的大作中提到】 : 但是看起来整个package还要低一些。
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w****3 发帖数: 232 | 10 我的应该不算experience
【在 l*****a 的大作中提到】 : 你的是fresh : lz是按照experienced给的
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l*****a 发帖数: 14598 | 11 then why gave u 4.5K stock?
【在 w****3 的大作中提到】 : 我的应该不算experience
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w****3 发帖数: 232 | 13 我现在还有一个Amazon的on-site,看样子就算拿到offer也没啥意义啊
【在 h****e 的大作中提到】 : 似乎stock给的偏少,版上给出的一般offer是:
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w****3 发帖数: 232 | 14 $4.5K
【在 l*****a 的大作中提到】 : then why gave u 4.5K stock?
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l*****a 发帖数: 14598 | 15 i just mean that
【在 w****3 的大作中提到】 : $4.5K
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l*****a 发帖数: 14598 | 16 amzn会给你sign-on+stock 8W/ 4year
为什么没意义?
【在 w****3 的大作中提到】 : 我现在还有一个Amazon的on-site,看样子就算拿到offer也没啥意义啊
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P**********c 发帖数: 3417 | 17 As long as you are not a new grad, likely you'll go through the experienced
track and not get the high stock sign-on.
However, this is a STRONG sign that MS will NOT give you much recurring
stock after the sign on expires. So consider this even if you are fresh when
comparing with other companies' offers. For example, Google's recurring
stock is known to be good.
【在 w****3 的大作中提到】 : 我的应该不算experience
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w**z 发帖数: 8232 | 18 这是啥逻辑?
【在 l*****a 的大作中提到】 : so many experienced hire can only get <10K for sign-on stock : seems that is the policy unless HM likes u very much or u argued strongly.
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h****e 发帖数: 928 | 19 如果想要争取加sign-on,stock之类的话,最好先拿到Amazon
的offer再说。加紧A的onsite吧。 |
P**********c 发帖数: 3417 | 20 逻辑是: MS这么多年了,本来能给员工的股票就差不多发完了,为了吸引对职场还不太
熟悉又非常可能同时有多个offer的fresh,才在fresh的offer package里加了比较好的
stock,做到跟web公司comparable,但是experienced hire没有这个budget.
【在 w**z 的大作中提到】 : 这是啥逻辑?
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S*******w 发帖数: 24236 | 21 那experienced的钱更少了啊
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb - 中文网站浏览器
【在 P**********c 的大作中提到】 : 逻辑是: MS这么多年了,本来能给员工的股票就差不多发完了,为了吸引对职场还不太 : 熟悉又非常可能同时有多个offer的fresh,才在fresh的offer package里加了比较好的 : stock,做到跟web公司comparable,但是experienced hire没有这个budget.
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P**********c 发帖数: 3417 | 22 牛的话可以在base上negotiate.
【在 S*******w 的大作中提到】 : 那experienced的钱更少了啊 : : ★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb - 中文网站浏览器
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h****e 发帖数: 928 | 23 这种情况下就得靠长base、长级(提高target bonus的百分比)
和/或sign-on bonus(一次性的)了。一般跳槽原来公司
unvested RSUs就没有了,得靠sign-on来补。
【在 S*******w 的大作中提到】 : 那experienced的钱更少了啊 : : ★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb - 中文网站浏览器
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y**********u 发帖数: 6366 | 24 experienced本来就很穷啊。。。
不太
好的
【在 S*******w 的大作中提到】 : 那experienced的钱更少了啊 : : ★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb - 中文网站浏览器
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S*******w 发帖数: 24236 | 25 越老越穷,最后就下岗。
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb - 中文网站浏览器
【在 y**********u 的大作中提到】 : experienced本来就很穷啊。。。 : : 不太 : 好的
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W******g 发帖数: 887 | 26 expereienced不一定老
老爷不一定experienced
【在 S*******w 的大作中提到】 : 越老越穷,最后就下岗。 : : ★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb - 中文网站浏览器
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r**********n 发帖数: 97 | 27
This is totally wrong. All companies will buy their stock back from the
market. My friend who jumps to MSFT with 2 years exp got $100k+ sign on (
cash+stock). However, for industry hire, they expect to pay more for the
relocation. One of my friend who worked in DC before jumped to MSFT and MSFT
paid the agent fee for his house in DC which is around $150k. Therefore, in
most case, if you don't ask for high relocation package, you can definitely
work on getting a good sign on bonus.
【在 P**********c 的大作中提到】 : 逻辑是: MS这么多年了,本来能给员工的股票就差不多发完了,为了吸引对职场还不太 : 熟悉又非常可能同时有多个offer的fresh,才在fresh的offer package里加了比较好的 : stock,做到跟web公司comparable,但是experienced hire没有这个budget.
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j***y 发帖数: 1069 | 28 感谢总结 这些都是MS拿到的吧
【在 h****e 的大作中提到】 : 似乎stock给的偏少,版上给出的一般offer是:
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P**********c 发帖数: 3417 | 29 我更相信版上的offer. 报了不少了。你说关于ms的pay的都太特例了,跟版上情况很不
附和。公司当然有buy back,但是相对ms的规模,那点普通员工分不到什么。
【在 r**********n 的大作中提到】 : : This is totally wrong. All companies will buy their stock back from the : market. My friend who jumps to MSFT with 2 years exp got $100k+ sign on ( : cash+stock). However, for industry hire, they expect to pay more for the : relocation. One of my friend who worked in DC before jumped to MSFT and MSFT : paid the agent fee for his house in DC which is around $150k. Therefore, in : most case, if you don't ask for high relocation package, you can definitely : work on getting a good sign on bonus.
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h**r 发帖数: 8078 | 30 “the agent fee for his house in DC which is around $150k”
多敲了个0吧,agent fee一般是房价6%,好像,150K的agent fee,得多豪华的房子...
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【在 r**********n 的大作中提到】 : : This is totally wrong. All companies will buy their stock back from the : market. My friend who jumps to MSFT with 2 years exp got $100k+ sign on ( : cash+stock). However, for industry hire, they expect to pay more for the : relocation. One of my friend who worked in DC before jumped to MSFT and MSFT : paid the agent fee for his house in DC which is around $150k. Therefore, in : most case, if you don't ask for high relocation package, you can definitely : work on getting a good sign on bonus.
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A**l 发帖数: 2650 | 31 $100k+ signon & $150k relocation!!! Oh my GOD!
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【在 r**********n 的大作中提到】 : : This is totally wrong. All companies will buy their stock back from the : market. My friend who jumps to MSFT with 2 years exp got $100k+ sign on ( : cash+stock). However, for industry hire, they expect to pay more for the : relocation. One of my friend who worked in DC before jumped to MSFT and MSFT : paid the agent fee for his house in DC which is around $150k. Therefore, in : most case, if you don't ask for high relocation package, you can definitely : work on getting a good sign on bonus.
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