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Running版 - Some thoughts during my 6 mile tempo run this morning
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s******p
发帖数: 819
1
Less than 24 hours after nyc triathlon, I’ve already feel 90% recovered, so
I decided to run to work as usual. The run felt so easy and it became a
tempo run after 1 mile warm up. I can’t help comparing the intensity of
triathlon races to running races.
Here is an approximate intensity comparison, at least to me:
sprint = swim + 10k
olympic = swim + half marathon
half iron = swim + marathon
iron = swim + 50 miler
double iron = swim + 100 miler
So for a serious marathon runner, if she knows how to swim, with a proper
tri bike and half of the training time on it, 70.3 should be an easy task,
at least to finish.
But somehow triathlon gives people an impression that it’s a tough sport. I
would say WTC did a very good marketing job. They picked themselves a fancy
name to start with: Ironman. Come on, in the running world, only Dean
Karnazes would be shameless enough to call himself something like that. Ok,
maybe that’s too mean to Dean. But you get the idea.
The nature of the triathlon makes it a huge profitable market which
naturally transfers to wider media coverage. Look at those ridiculously
priced bikes. Come on, it’s just a big toy on two wheels. But I bet a large
amount of people are attracted to the sports exactly for those expensive
bikes. I think some guys enjoy buying those expensive toys, just like the
ladies enjoy buying LV bags, which, btw, I think is humanity’s biggest
insult to aesthetics. I sincerely feel sorry for those riding fancy tri
bikes at 15mph on a downhill during nyc triathlon yesterday.
Going back to running, what do we ask for? Literally nothing, any clothing,
any shoes (or no shoe at all), any time on any terrain! Muscle milk and
whatever fancy drink? Those are prepared for sissys. Give us some water and
we are ready to go for a 20 miler.
Swimming is a great sport. I think that’s a sport natural to human beings
only second to running. Our ancestors survived on hunting and fishing,
right?
p***r
发帖数: 4859
2
说的好!

so

【在 s******p 的大作中提到】
: Less than 24 hours after nyc triathlon, I’ve already feel 90% recovered, so
: I decided to run to work as usual. The run felt so easy and it became a
: tempo run after 1 mile warm up. I can’t help comparing the intensity of
: triathlon races to running races.
: Here is an approximate intensity comparison, at least to me:
: sprint = swim + 10k
: olympic = swim + half marathon
: half iron = swim + marathon
: iron = swim + 50 miler
: double iron = swim + 100 miler

o*******r
发帖数: 4921
3
换一种玩法而已.
没什么的.

so

【在 s******p 的大作中提到】
: Less than 24 hours after nyc triathlon, I’ve already feel 90% recovered, so
: I decided to run to work as usual. The run felt so easy and it became a
: tempo run after 1 mile warm up. I can’t help comparing the intensity of
: triathlon races to running races.
: Here is an approximate intensity comparison, at least to me:
: sprint = swim + 10k
: olympic = swim + half marathon
: half iron = swim + marathon
: iron = swim + 50 miler
: double iron = swim + 100 miler

M**u
发帖数: 10158
4
re

so

【在 s******p 的大作中提到】
: Less than 24 hours after nyc triathlon, I’ve already feel 90% recovered, so
: I decided to run to work as usual. The run felt so easy and it became a
: tempo run after 1 mile warm up. I can’t help comparing the intensity of
: triathlon races to running races.
: Here is an approximate intensity comparison, at least to me:
: sprint = swim + 10k
: olympic = swim + half marathon
: half iron = swim + marathon
: iron = swim + 50 miler
: double iron = swim + 100 miler

s******p
发帖数: 819
5
是没什么的,每个人有每个人的玩法和活法,和runner们讨论一下,仅此而已

【在 o*******r 的大作中提到】
: 换一种玩法而已.
: 没什么的.
:
: so

o*******r
发帖数: 4921
6
恩.
还好跑步比赛没被炒作的很好,否则也跟铁人一样,贵的都玩不起了,就不爽了.

【在 s******p 的大作中提到】
: 是没什么的,每个人有每个人的玩法和活法,和runner们讨论一下,仅此而已
i*********5
发帖数: 19210
7
完全同意"WTC did a very good marketing job. "
同样距离的比赛 labelled with WTC's "IRONMAN"TM would cost you twice the $$
$ compared to a non-WTC "iron-distance" tri race.
世界上最贵的铁人赛($895)就在你们NYC,只能说New Yorker太有钱了!
M**u
发帖数: 10158
8

随便哪个大比赛不都要100块上下,对我这种来说,也不便宜啊!!!

【在 o*******r 的大作中提到】
: 恩.
: 还好跑步比赛没被炒作的很好,否则也跟铁人一样,贵的都玩不起了,就不爽了.

o*******r
发帖数: 4921
9
比1000块上下好多啦

【在 M**u 的大作中提到】
:
: 随便哪个大比赛不都要100块上下,对我这种来说,也不便宜啊!!!

o*******r
发帖数: 4921
10
刚意识到这是个BSO贴!赤裸裸啊.

so

【在 s******p 的大作中提到】
: Less than 24 hours after nyc triathlon, I’ve already feel 90% recovered, so
: I decided to run to work as usual. The run felt so easy and it became a
: tempo run after 1 mile warm up. I can’t help comparing the intensity of
: triathlon races to running races.
: Here is an approximate intensity comparison, at least to me:
: sprint = swim + 10k
: olympic = swim + half marathon
: half iron = swim + marathon
: iron = swim + 50 miler
: double iron = swim + 100 miler

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s******p
发帖数: 819
11
现在trail race也越来越商业化, leadville100今年就被卖了,唉
不过草根的力量很强大,每个节假日纽约都有一个免费的trial marathon

【在 o*******r 的大作中提到】
: 恩.
: 还好跑步比赛没被炒作的很好,否则也跟铁人一样,贵的都玩不起了,就不爽了.

s******p
发帖数: 819
12
其实895对纽约附近的人真算便宜了,不用住宿开销,不用运自行车就省下近千

$$

【在 i*********5 的大作中提到】
: 完全同意"WTC did a very good marketing job. "
: 同样距离的比赛 labelled with WTC's "IRONMAN"TM would cost you twice the $$
: $ compared to a non-WTC "iron-distance" tri race.
: 世界上最贵的铁人赛($895)就在你们NYC,只能说New Yorker太有钱了!

M**u
发帖数: 10158
13

刚发现suntrust national marathon也被卖了,成了rock&roll,明年又要涨价了。。


【在 o*******r 的大作中提到】
: 比1000块上下好多啦
i*********5
发帖数: 19210
14
这倒也是。我下月的Muskoka 70.3在去年的G8高峰会议所在地Deerhurst Resort,加上
住宿费等也要这个价了。:-(

【在 s******p 的大作中提到】
: 其实895对纽约附近的人真算便宜了,不用住宿开销,不用运自行车就省下近千
:
: $$

m******r
发帖数: 9604
15
I have a dream that one day this event will rise up and live out the true
meaning of its creed: "We hold these truths to be self-evident: that WTC and
non-WTC entry fees shall be paid equal."
I have a dream that one day in the Hudson River the sons of Brooklyn
janitors and the sons of Wall Street bankers will be able to swim together
at the same Ironman New York venue.
I have a dream that my children will one day race in triathlon events where
they will not be judged by how much they bikes worth but by the content of
their character...
本来还想继续粪下去的,可是老婆喊我回家吃药了...
d*********6
发帖数: 6115
16
WS100还土着呢,你去抽签,明年来吧。

【在 s******p 的大作中提到】
: 现在trail race也越来越商业化, leadville100今年就被卖了,唉
: 不过草根的力量很强大,每个节假日纽约都有一个免费的trial marathon

s******p
发帖数: 819
17
this is a good one. and these dreams would only be dreams.

and
where

【在 m******r 的大作中提到】
: I have a dream that one day this event will rise up and live out the true
: meaning of its creed: "We hold these truths to be self-evident: that WTC and
: non-WTC entry fees shall be paid equal."
: I have a dream that one day in the Hudson River the sons of Brooklyn
: janitors and the sons of Wall Street bankers will be able to swim together
: at the same Ironman New York venue.
: I have a dream that my children will one day race in triathlon events where
: they will not be judged by how much they bikes worth but by the content of
: their character...
: 本来还想继续粪下去的,可是老婆喊我回家吃药了...

p********y
发帖数: 5141
18
我觉得你单速赶超cervelo的时候,至少实现了花哥的第三条梦想!
BTW,大牛给传授一下骑车经验吧。

【在 s******p 的大作中提到】
: this is a good one. and these dreams would only be dreams.
:
: and
: where

f*******g
发帖数: 3304
19
8 错

so

【在 s******p 的大作中提到】
: Less than 24 hours after nyc triathlon, I’ve already feel 90% recovered, so
: I decided to run to work as usual. The run felt so easy and it became a
: tempo run after 1 mile warm up. I can’t help comparing the intensity of
: triathlon races to running races.
: Here is an approximate intensity comparison, at least to me:
: sprint = swim + 10k
: olympic = swim + half marathon
: half iron = swim + marathon
: iron = swim + 50 miler
: double iron = swim + 100 miler

R*****s
发帖数: 41236
20
完成大铁不一定难, 但是Qualify Kona还是非常难的。。。
英雄不妨一试。。。
btw: 水上游20迈也是非常非常难的, 不要imagine...

so

【在 s******p 的大作中提到】
: Less than 24 hours after nyc triathlon, I’ve already feel 90% recovered, so
: I decided to run to work as usual. The run felt so easy and it became a
: tempo run after 1 mile warm up. I can’t help comparing the intensity of
: triathlon races to running races.
: Here is an approximate intensity comparison, at least to me:
: sprint = swim + 10k
: olympic = swim + half marathon
: half iron = swim + marathon
: iron = swim + 50 miler
: double iron = swim + 100 miler

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S*M
发帖数: 10832
21
呵呵,欢迎来摄影版参观expensive fancy toys

so

【在 s******p 的大作中提到】
: Less than 24 hours after nyc triathlon, I’ve already feel 90% recovered, so
: I decided to run to work as usual. The run felt so easy and it became a
: tempo run after 1 mile warm up. I can’t help comparing the intensity of
: triathlon races to running races.
: Here is an approximate intensity comparison, at least to me:
: sprint = swim + 10k
: olympic = swim + half marathon
: half iron = swim + marathon
: iron = swim + 50 miler
: double iron = swim + 100 miler

s******p
发帖数: 819
22
oh, i didn't mean swimming 20 miles. i said runners can handle 20milers
easily just with water...
but a 20 miler swim is one of my target in the near future.

【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】
: 完成大铁不一定难, 但是Qualify Kona还是非常难的。。。
: 英雄不妨一试。。。
: btw: 水上游20迈也是非常非常难的, 不要imagine...
:
: so

R*****s
发帖数: 41236
23
我昨天早上看新闻, 说有个50岁左右的女的从古巴还是哪儿游到
Florida... 不过开水游泳还是要非常小心,万一出问题就不是受
伤的问题了。。。

【在 s******p 的大作中提到】
: oh, i didn't mean swimming 20 miles. i said runners can handle 20milers
: easily just with water...
: but a 20 miler swim is one of my target in the near future.

y******n
发帖数: 4527
24
Nice one. I have not thought about the marketing view. But I did feel that
triathlon sounds a little more fancy than running although I of course
considered myself a runner. You just inspired me to try a triathlon as soon
as possible.
A person who finished Ironman would be called "Ironman".
However, a person who finished 100 miler would probably be called "Crazy,
Insane, or Are You OK man" instead of "superman, ultraman..."

so

【在 s******p 的大作中提到】
: Less than 24 hours after nyc triathlon, I’ve already feel 90% recovered, so
: I decided to run to work as usual. The run felt so easy and it became a
: tempo run after 1 mile warm up. I can’t help comparing the intensity of
: triathlon races to running races.
: Here is an approximate intensity comparison, at least to me:
: sprint = swim + 10k
: olympic = swim + half marathon
: half iron = swim + marathon
: iron = swim + 50 miler
: double iron = swim + 100 miler

L***0
发帖数: 1283
25
A person who finishes Leadville 100 miler should be called Leadman.
Leadville 100 is also called Deadville 100. So he may also be called Deadman.

soon

【在 y******n 的大作中提到】
: Nice one. I have not thought about the marketing view. But I did feel that
: triathlon sounds a little more fancy than running although I of course
: considered myself a runner. You just inspired me to try a triathlon as soon
: as possible.
: A person who finished Ironman would be called "Ironman".
: However, a person who finished 100 miler would probably be called "Crazy,
: Insane, or Are You OK man" instead of "superman, ultraman..."
:
: so

y******n
发帖数: 4527
26
but this is for the runner's crowd. In general public probably would not
think in that way.

Deadman.

【在 L***0 的大作中提到】
: A person who finishes Leadville 100 miler should be called Leadman.
: Leadville 100 is also called Deadville 100. So he may also be called Deadman.
:
: soon

y******n
发帖数: 4527
27
there are lots of sharks in that area. Did she have any company?

【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】
: 我昨天早上看新闻, 说有个50岁左右的女的从古巴还是哪儿游到
: Florida... 不过开水游泳还是要非常小心,万一出问题就不是受
: 伤的问题了。。。

L***0
发帖数: 1283
28
she didn't make it. quite after making halfway. still very respectable, of
course.

【在 y******n 的大作中提到】
: there are lots of sharks in that area. Did she have any company?
i*********5
发帖数: 19210
29
Actually there's a "Leadman" & "Leadwoman" title to be grabbed, however you
have to complete 5 of the LT100 mtb & trail run events:
This unique category was started in 2003 and requires racers to enter into
five of the Leadville Trail 100 events: Leadville Marathon, Silver Rush 50-
Mile Mountain Bike Race OR Trail Run, Leadville Trail 100 Mountain Bike Race
, LT100 10K, and the Leadville Trail 100-Mile Run.
http://leadvilletrail100.magpieprototype.com/LT100Races/Leadman
And I'm quite sure you'll be the first "Leadman" coming from here. :-)

Deadman.

【在 L***0 的大作中提到】
: A person who finishes Leadville 100 miler should be called Leadman.
: Leadville 100 is also called Deadville 100. So he may also be called Deadman.
:
: soon

i*********5
发帖数: 19210
30
Diana Nyad, 61-year-old! This is her 2nd attempt for the 103-mile swim
adventure without a cage (think sharks!). Last time she tried it was back in
1978!
http://www.cnn.com/2011/HEALTH/08/09/nyad.103.mile.swim/index.h

【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】
: 我昨天早上看新闻, 说有个50岁左右的女的从古巴还是哪儿游到
: Florida... 不过开水游泳还是要非常小心,万一出问题就不是受
: 伤的问题了。。。

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i*********5
发帖数: 19210
31
At a smaller scale, a 17-year-old teenage girl swam 52km across Lake Ontario
to raise $$$ for SickKids Hospital where his little brother received heart
repair operation.
http://www.thestar.com/news/article/1035652--markham-teen-conqu
R*****s
发帖数: 41236
32
wow, admire to death....103-mile swimming....50迈就超出俺的
想象力了。。。还是年岁不饶人啊....如果年轻点或许就成功了。。。

in

【在 i*********5 的大作中提到】
: Diana Nyad, 61-year-old! This is her 2nd attempt for the 103-mile swim
: adventure without a cage (think sharks!). Last time she tried it was back in
: 1978!
: http://www.cnn.com/2011/HEALTH/08/09/nyad.103.mile.swim/index.h

L***0
发帖数: 1283
33
ultra swimming is a strange sport. women perform better than men, because
their bodies store more fat. in fact, many top long distance swimmers don't
look fit at all, some are just fat.

【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】
: wow, admire to death....103-mile swimming....50迈就超出俺的
: 想象力了。。。还是年岁不饶人啊....如果年轻点或许就成功了。。。
:
: in

R*****s
发帖数: 41236
34
这个其实也好理解, 据说同样重量的脂肪的体积是肌肉的7倍,
肌肉男和脂肪女好比一个秤砣, 一块泡沫在水上游, 应该是
女的占优势了。。。另外在长时间海里, 脂肪还有保暖作用。。。
看看海豹啊, 鲸鱼啊的体型。。。

t

【在 L***0 的大作中提到】
: ultra swimming is a strange sport. women perform better than men, because
: their bodies store more fat. in fact, many top long distance swimmers don't
: look fit at all, some are just fat.

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