g****t
发帖数: 31659 | 1 以前,我在国内上体育课.老师说的是,dribble结束就是双手抱球.
在那以后,你只能one, two,然后就必须出手.
但NBA这么多人能单手拿球.之前,Jeremy Lin转身过Fish那个球,
大家讨论了很久,其实最后我觉得就是这个点不能认定.Lin转身时候有点端球
的动作.如果手向上算是dribble结束了,那他也就走步了.如果是之后更稳拿住球
算是dribble结束,有一步就是算在dribble阶段发生的,那就是运球中的脚步移动.
没问题.
Lbj这个,大家看看,dribble之后,是不是走步了?
我觉得并没有走.
当然,前面放球那下,我不清楚新规则怎么用的.先撇开不谈. |
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m*****r
发帖数: 1240 | 2 '直接数最后一次球落地弹起碰到手后'
球落地弹起碰到手 并不意味着就要立刻就要算步数了。
nba rule book： http://www.nba.com/media/dleague/1314-nba-rule-book.pdf
a. The dribble ends when the dribbler:
(1) Touches the ball simultaneously with both hands
(2) Permits the ball to come to rest while he is in control of it
(3) Tries for a field goal
(4) Throws a pass
(5) Touches the ball more than once while dribbling, before it touches the
floor
(6) Loses control
(7) Allows the ball to become dead
很多人看起来走步了，大多是是利用了规则的模糊或者说叫难以界定， 单手碰球并不
意味 dribbl... 阅读全帖 |
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s******1
发帖数: 4987 | 3 不是很懂，不过NBA球员手放在球侧面就可以单手持球了，很多中锋手放在球上面就可
以持球了，从dribble结束到持球跨步上篮肯定有个过渡阶段，所以我觉得啥时候开始
从dribble变成持球不重要，直接数最后一次球落地弹起碰到手后迈出了多少步不是很
直接吗？
另外问个技术问题，能两次dribble之间跑六步吗？就是运球过程中，球两次碰地板之
间走了六步 |
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g****t
发帖数: 31659 | 4 以前Lin dribble多余动作有点多，身体和dribble 配合的也不太好，
对抗中，容易被steal。
现在Lin每次发动进攻之前dribble少了不少，但威胁和making progress的速度
提高了不少。 |
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b****e
发帖数: 985 | 5 5 second violation
There are 2 differnt 5 second violation calls.
One is when a team cannot pass the ball in bounds
within 5 seconds. This results in a change of
possesion. The other 5 second call is when a player
is pressured by a defender and does not go anywhere.
Example, if a player stops dribbling and looks to
pass but can't because a defender is pressuring him/her,
it is a 5 second violation also resulting in a turnover.
Also if a player is dribbling in 1 spot and a defender is
guarding hi |
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z****e
发帖数: 2361 | 6 两个球的dribble，以他的小手，几分钟都不mess up，相当牛啊。就算记得那么多的
dribble练习，就很厉害了。 |
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g****t
发帖数: 31659 | 7 这还不是第一大前？
传统技术浓眉强
但邪派武功也是功
Kg当初赢duncan拿MVP
不就是dribble利索么
Duncan 浓眉都偏传统类型
傻芬现在进化到膝盖以下dribble无压力
持球进攻了这场
Amazing!! |
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m*****r
发帖数: 1240 | 9 nba rule book： http://www.nba.com/media/dleague/1314-nba-rule-book.pdf
a. The dribble ends when the dribbler:
(1) Touches the ball simultaneously with both hands
(2) Permits the ball to come to rest while he is in control of it
(3) Tries for a field goal
(4) Throws a pass
(5) Touches the ball more than once while dribbling, before it touches the
floor
(6) Loses control
(7) Allows the ball to become dead
第二点里 ‘come to rest’ ‘in control of it’. 完全是由裁判主管决定的。 |
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r*********e
发帖数: 29495 | 10 http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1448619/seattle-man-dribbling
killed-car-oregon?cc=5901
A Seattle man trying to dribble a soccer ball 10,000 miles to Brazil in tim
e for the 2014 World Cup died Tuesday after being hit by a pickup truck on t
he Oregon Coast.
Police in Lincoln City, Ore., said 42-year-old Richard Swanson was hit at ab
out 10 a.m. while walking south along U.S. Highway 101 near the city limits.
He was declared dead at a hospital. The driver has not been charged.
Lt. Jerry Palmer ... 阅读全帖 |
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J****n
发帖数: 3011 | 12 "ONE DRIBBLE 7 steps"是啥意思？
这个是走步的判据？ |
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l**********3
发帖数: 10970 | 13 运一次球，总共走了7步
"ONE DRIBBLE 7 steps"是啥意思？这个是走步的判据？ |
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g****t
发帖数: 31659 | 14 很多人不知道1次dribble可以走很多步,只要你不端球,不双手持球,都是可以的.
运球不算结束的.
王十朋一个绝招就是这样.不过他稍有点端球.
这也可以不走步啊 |
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m*****r
发帖数: 1240 | 16 发这么多不是为了把走步说成不走步。而是让你们明白，很多 ‘uncalled’
suspicious
traveling 没被吹的原因是规则本身就模棱两可。你可以说为了照顾某些球员把规则改
的模棱两可。 但这种模棱两可的规则对所有球员都是适用的。毫无疑问，詹姆斯，安
东尼，哈登等人 滥用的比较多而已。
而且很多动作，two and half euro step, hesitation move, several steps during
one dribble 都是平时打球可以用的上。先别动不动就说别人用了就走步，然后自己
可以朝着尽量不可疑的方向多练练，派上用场也让别人少些闲话。 |
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z****e
发帖数: 2361 | 18 NBA这是要怎样啊。以后就当橄榄球打得了，没有travel，没有double dribble，没有
moving screen，没有内线的总总犯规，只有外线体毛哨和碰瓷一如既往的吹。 |
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e********3
发帖数: 18578 | 19 你就说这球库里有没有double dribble吧？
: 赫赫，你顶楼那浓浓的酸味隔几百米都能闻到
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c***h
发帖数: 51 | 20 有 double dribble 吗？我可以看见 Curry 手指在球上的影子，说明没有接触，而且
没有觉得球有任何被左手影响 |
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v*******n
发帖数: 8995 | 21 double dribble
花车粉磨磨唧唧承认一个有这么难吗？ |
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v*******n
发帖数: 8995 | 23 绝杀了。
double dribble 没有？ |
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l*m
发帖数: 824 | 24 小van，给你打个比方吧，（声明：我不是黑MJ）当年MJ著名的对Russell最后一投有人
说他投篮之前把Russell推开了，但那有如何，这个球是MJ的职业生涯高光。
现在同样的事情发生在老詹身上，只不过可能反过来是低光，库里有没有double
dribble已经不重要了，比赛已经结束。你们这帮詹密反复讨论它就是在给老詹伤口上
撒盐。看这个球给我的感觉就是老詹用尽全力防守也无可奈何，不知你们有没有看到老
詹的无助？ |
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e********3
发帖数: 18578 | 25 这球没有double dribble？就是这一下把以为库里要投篮的老詹晃的跳起来了，不然进
去就是一个血帽。 |
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e********3
发帖数: 18578 | 26 usatoday那篇文章里面的放大的照片很明显的显示库里double dribble了，我很确凿，
但是没法说服故意装看不清楚的人呀。 |
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s*****c
发帖数: 753 | 27 Yes it could. Around 10 years ago, the NBA league had asked official to pay
attention to that and result in many double dribble calls.
If you dribble correctly, i.e., use hand softly absorb the momentum of the
rebounced ball, even though it appears that your hand was on the ball for
more than a second, you will still be fine since the ball is still moving.
However, if you grabbing the ball during that process, the dribble should be
considered stopped. The subsequent dribble constitutes double... 阅读全帖 |
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s*****h
发帖数: 44903 | 28 描述CP3很传神
When he was asked more specifically about how Paul gets on with everybody
else, Davis said:
"He has his way about himself. 'I'm Chris Paul, give me the ball, I'm
gonna dribble, dribble, dribble, dribble, dribble, dribble, dribble, dribble
, dribble, might pass, if it looks good or I'll shoot.'"
Nine dribbles! I counted. |
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g****t
发帖数: 31659 | 29 好像弄清楚了.
b. A player who receives the ball while he is progressing or upon completion
of a dribble,
may take two steps in coming to a stop, passing or shooting the ball. A
player who receives the
ball while he is progressing must release the ball to start his dribble
before his second step
如果双手触球算是completion of a dribble,
那么,无论双手触球的时候脚在哪里,
双手触球的时刻之后,球出手之前,
双脚就是只能重新有两次触地.
但这又有了个新问题.
例如我两脚原地不动运球,dribble一下,双手接球.
这个时刻之后,我能 抬right-抬left-shot吗?
dribble的时候,如果球在空中没有落地,脚应该是可以多落地n次的?
王士朋经常这么干,我记得本版以前讨论过.N... 阅读全帖 |
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g****t
发帖数: 31659 | 30 大家顺便给看看?
好像弄清楚了.
b. A player who receives the ball while he is progressing or upon completion
of a dribble,
may take two steps in coming to a stop, passing or shooting the ball. A
player who receives the
ball while he is progressing must release the ball to start his dribble
before his second step
如果双手触球算是completion of a dribble,
那么,无论双手触球的时候脚在哪里,
双手触球的时刻之后,球出手之前,
双脚就是只能重新有两次触地.
但这又有了个新问题.
例如我两脚原地不动运球,dribble一下,双手接球.
这个时刻之后,我能 抬right-抬left-shot吗?
dribble的时候,如果球在空中没有落地,脚应该是可以多落地n次的?
王士朋经常这么干,我记得... 阅读全帖 |
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g****t
发帖数: 31659 | 31 熊猫第一步很厉害。
但我有个问题：
好几个球第一次dribble已经过去了，然后第2,3次dribble被追上，然后靠篮下foot
work进球。
感觉老黑第一步丢了后，回补的加速很厉害。
这种情况为啥不简化点动作，一次dribble就直接抱球起速度
起三步呢？既然第一次dribble已经是有利位置了，多dribble一下反而会让速度慢不少。
如果一次dribble就收球起三步，速度能快一些，
我觉得老黑就未必能追上你。
(btw:我看Jordan晚年录像，crossover过人，极少超过2次dribble的。) |
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s*****q
发帖数: 364 | 32 Those who have defended him say that Lin has an extremely rare arsenal of
moves—the byproduct of posture, bent knees and peculiar fundamentals. And
while being a dribbling expert sounds as exciting as being a chef who
specializes in porridge, Lin has made it a devastating art. Knicks guard
Iman Shumpert, who first guarded Lin during lockout exhibition games and now
does in practice, said his possessions play out like this: When he's close
to the basket, he starts an "in-and-out" dribble with his... 阅读全帖 |
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m*****g
发帖数: 12253 | 33 ☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
hznz (hznz) 于 (Thu Feb 9 22:10:18 2012, 美东) 提到:
前面都说lin成功的例子鼓励亚洲人培养孩子们好好参加运动多打球，这个，天赋也很
重要吧。
他爹还不到1米7，他妈呢？
lin的运动能力怎么样？还是靠手感和脑子？
☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
pandamalone (0000~史前圣灵猫熊) 于 (Thu Feb 9 22:20:44 2012, 美东) 提到:
他的运动能力照比普通人无疑是很高的
在nba的话综合来看应该有中等,考虑到quickness和体重说中等略偏上也可以
但相对于他的身体素质他绝对是overachiever
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guvest (我爱你老婆Anna) 于 (Thu Feb 9 22:53:21 2012, 美东) 提到:
Lin第一步相当快,后两部慢悠悠的,感觉持续加速能力不如黑... 阅读全帖 |
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F****n
发帖数: 3271 | 34 很多欧洲教练都说，Technique == First Touch
Dribble, Pass, 和 Finish 都是另外的专门技术，要专门练
梅西 Technique = 10, Dribble = 10, Pass = 8, Finish = 9
小白 Technique = 10, Dribble = 8, Pass = 8, Finish = 8
哈维 Technique = 10, Dribble = 6, Pass = 10, Finish = 7
C罗 Technique = 10, Dribble = 9.5, Pass = 8, Finish = 9
。。。
老马 Technique = 10, Dribble = 10, Pass = 10, Finish = 10
气。 |
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k******a
发帖数: 2436 | 35 在肯定lz发言一贯正确性的前提下，提一下Mike D'Antoni的进攻体系需要pg长时间拿球。确切地说是pg每次进攻都拿球。transition需要wingman跑pg传球快。阵地战需要pg有能力长时间dribble。
nash经常从后场dribble到前场再到底线再dribble回到中圈。如果注意听一下最近
Hubie Brown电视转播时候的评论，你可以理解为什么lin需要长时间dribble。
特别解释以下这种dribble和steve francis最喜欢的iso不一样。目的不是为了beat your man one on one, 而是利用screen吸引防守注意力从而找机会完成传球或者自己投篮。nash的确是这个体系里面的极值。 |
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h**n
发帖数: 981 | 36 These guys on the chinese bbs clearly didn't read all the rules.
depend on whether you have gained control of the ball. If you already gained
control of the ball and started dribble, then it's illegal.
see the following nba rules, b
http://www.nba.com/.element/mp3/2.0/sect/podcastmp3/NBA/PDF/201
Section II—Dribble
a. A player shall not run with the ball without dribbling it.
b. A player in control of a dribble who steps on or outside a boundary line,
even though
not touching the ball while on or... 阅读全帖 |
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E*******1
发帖数: 3464 | 37 Yes, let me say this way: Everyone would dribble for several hundred times
in the career, LBJ dribbles for several thousand times and dribbles for
close shot. Others dribble by mistake, LBJ dribbles for playing basketball,
that's the difference |
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g****t
发帖数: 31659 | 38 Jordan 是一切中距离摇摆人技术之王。老年Jordan dribble很少。拿球晃动假的交叉
步，如果你防守不够好，他就有机会起跳jump了。一下前后交叉步，两下dribble到篮
下都常见。
简单说，Jordan 2次dribble之内会有十几个判断让防守人
去做。所以Jordan打无球没有任何问题。他动作很少，但极具攻击性。三威胁在手，前
后一错步，防守人判断错
左右或者前后，他就直接抓住空间跳投了。
卡哇伊学的就是老年Jordan,但他dribble太差了。
Jordan 总决赛遇到的最强防守，Payton的选择是在Jordan
接球之前尽量缠死他。
最后，我记得Jordan 98退役时候季后赛是场均30，命中率50%。假如他没有这个命中率
的话，篮球还会是大个子的时代。
相比之下，Curry无球主要是跑位跳投，没有Jordan 技术丰富细腻。当然，三分线上可
能也不需要这么玩。不过我怀疑
老年Curry可能会开发出三分线假动作晃人，然后one dribble
加后仰跳投... |
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w******y
发帖数: 8040 | 40 这只是进球的数据， 大罗是纯前锋， 梅西则是9号半， 比这个数据已经是很偏向大罗了
另外这是两年前的数据， 最新的梅西和大罗的差距拉得更开了
如果统计助攻和传威胁球， 那更是秒的渣都不剩了
Messi R De Lima
After 1+ dribbles: 106 85
After 2+ dribbles: 33 16
After 3+ dribbles: 15 5
After 4+ dribbles: 4 2
After 5+ dribbles: 1 0
Pre... 阅读全帖 |
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s********e
发帖数: 1503 | 41 大罗拿过世界杯，南美解放者杯，欧冠，足球先生，金球奖就没啥欲求了，最后几年也
就是为了联赛冠军。
大满贯到手，早没踢球动力了。
：这只是进球的数据， 大罗是纯前锋， 梅西则是9号半， 比这个数据已经是很偏向大
罗了
：另外这是两年前的数据， 最新的梅西和大罗的差距拉得更开了
：如果统计助攻和传威胁球， 那更是秒的渣都不剩了
： Messi R De Lima
：After 1+ dribbles: 106 85
：After 2+ dribbles: 33 16
：After 3+ dribbles: 15 5
：After 4+ dribbles: 4 ... 阅读全帖 |
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w*******2
发帖数: 2199 | 42 对你这种乱喷的二逼， 数据是最打脸的
过人后的进球数据， 大罗给煤老板提鞋都不配
这只是进球的数据， 大罗是纯前锋， 梅西则是9号半， 比这个数据已经是很偏向大罗了
另外这是两年前的数据， 最新的梅西和大罗的差距拉得更开了
如果统计助攻和传威胁球， 那更是秒的渣都不剩了
Messi R De Lima
After 1+ dribbles: 106 85
After 2+ dribbles: 33 16
After 3+ dribbles: 15 5
After 4+ dribbles: 4 2
After 5+ dribbles: ... 阅读全帖 |
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l*****7
发帖数: 8463 | 43 http://redalertpolitics.com/2012/11/10/southern-states-issue-wh
Americans in 15 states issue White House petitions asking permission to
secede
1663 If at first you don’t succeed, just secede!
More than 8,000 Louisiana residents have signed an online petition to the
Obama administration to allow the state of Louisana to, “withdraw
peacefully from the United States of America and create its own new
government.”
The petition, posted to the online White House petitions page, cites the
Declaration of... 阅读全帖 |
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l*****9
发帖数: 9501 | 44 The Fearlessness of Jeremy Lin
By Jake Simpson
Feb 13 2012, 10:47 AM ET
Let me first say: I was wrong.
Last week I said that while New York Knicks point guard Jeremy Lin's start
had been a superlative thrill ride, the best he could become as an NBA
player was "a serviceable point guard/poor man's J.J. Barea." As enamored as
I was by the Harvard grad's amazing story and sensational, Internet-
exploding week, I simply didn't think he had the chops to light up the NBA's
better defenses. His great ... 阅读全帖 |
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p*********e
发帖数: 32207 | 45 http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090404082604AA
"
According to Bernie, who is the Vice President of Referee Operations and
Director of Officials.
'What constitutes an assist? Does a player have to score directly after he
receives the ball from a teammate? Or can he dribble the score? What if a
player takes an inbounds past at his baseline, dribbles the whole length of
the court, then scores. Is there an assist on that play?
-- Shawn
Bernie's Answer: I've received a number of ques... 阅读全帖 |
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g****t
发帖数: 31659 | 46 我是举球那下子举正确，手抓稳就好。不靠dribble 熟悉球。
练习就是投篮那一下子。
dribble一来耗体力，二来破坏之前一些投篮累积起来的感觉和记忆。假如你投50个，
每次捡球之后都dribble三下。那等于是dribble 150次。还是挺多体力的。
话， |
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b*z
发帖数: 48 | 47 did you see price? he was too old even in 92'. or was he injured in his knee?
he was my favorite 3 pt shooter. the last few moments of eastern guys play one
on one with magic were really the highlights. i remember magic kinda said c'on
to thomas when he tried to dribble over magic, failed, and was gonna pass the
ball. thomas's dribble was good though. then magic tried to stop jordan's
dribble. mj kinda got a little space and shot a jumper but it didn't go in.
magic's consecutive three three-poin |
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c*****r
发帖数: 2426 | 48 首先每个人都有自己的投篮节奏，比如说有的人喜欢catch n' shoot，有人喜欢off the
dribble，我觉得没有孰优孰劣的分别，最重要的是这种投篮方式你喜欢，你适应，你这
么投着有信心。
有些东西是有标准的，比如说拿球的姿势、力量（自下而上）的传递、球出手的角度、球
飞行的弧线，这些还是要尽量根据标准来，最好有面大镜子，这个的帮助不小（呵呵，我
们的篮球场旁边就是个体操房），这些东西如果以前做的不规范还是要改的。其他的，比
如说是左脚前还是右脚前还是两脚平行，投篮的时候瞄准篮圈的前沿还是后沿，这些完全
可以因人而异。
具体的练习过程跟lovelybear的有些像，要有一个朋友帮着抢篮板和传球，这样你可以维
持自己的投篮动作和节奏在一组练习之内尽量完整不中断。每一组20次跳投，从0度沿着
三分弧顶跑到180度，五个投篮点，你的朋友摘篮板，给你传球。或者是catch n' shoot
或者是off the dribble，不要混杂起来练；如果朋友的传球位置不好，宁可传回去重新
来。我是只练catch n' shoot的，因为个人而言off the dribble反而会丧失节奏 |
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p*********e
发帖数: 32207 | 49 最下面是完整原文,这里摘选一下:
根据规则b,c
b. A player who receives the ball while he is progressing or upon completion
of a dribble, may use a two-count rhythm in coming to a stop, passing or
shooting the ball.
The first count occurs:
(1) As he receives the ball, if either foot is touching the floor at the
time he receives it.
c. A player who comes to a stop on the count of one may pivot, using either
foot as the pivot foot.
那么接下来简单了,kobe什么时候receives the ball的?
是顺步启动后左脚交叉步迈出去之后,右脚向左面后转身跨步的过程中
那么根据规则,他接下来可以选择左脚或者... 阅读全帖 |
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p*********e
发帖数: 32207 | 50 首先是肘击的部分
我印象里规则里没有对非抡肘的手肘动作做专门规定
刚查了了一下10-11赛季最新的pdf版规则
http://i.cdn.turner.com/nba/nba/.element/pdf/2.0/sect/officiati
用elbow为关键字,也确实没有查到跟本系列讨论相关的.
那么进攻犯规的规则具体如何呢?
Section II—By Dribbler
a. A dribbler shall not (1) charge into an opponent who has established a
legal guarding position, or (2) attempt to dribble between two opponents,
or (3) attempt to dribble between an opponent and a boundary, where
sufficient space is not available for illegal contact to be avoided.
b. If a defender is able to... 阅读全帖 |
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