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EJ
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来自主题: Reader版 - can Harry be a horcrux too*spoiler*?
First of all, I believe Harry Potter will not die. So even if he is a horcrux
(the shape of the scar really is a strong hint) then there has to be a way th
at the horcrux in him can be destroyed without Harry having to die. Maybe the
re is a twist there that the horcrux in him is not longer usable for LV becaus
e it's been turned into good soul part, and LV has to die with the other 6 des
troyed. Maybe. less likely though, he can create a horcrux of himself, then b
e killed or kill himself, t
EJ
发帖数: 23
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来自主题: Reader版 - can Harry be a horcrux too*spoiler*?
Could be that he didn't intend to or doesn't even know? I think it is possibl
e, though i hope not, that Harry has the other horcrux. Remeber, the horcrux r
ing has a lightning shape and so does Harry's scar. And JKR herself has said
that the last word of the book is probably going to be "scar"? Dumbledore did
say that he thought after LV tried to kill Harry, he turned the snake into hi
s last horcrux, but that's just a pure speculation. What if he accidentally l
eft a mark on Harry? They a
k*l
发帖数: 2574
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来自主题: Reader版 - can Harry be a horcrux too*spoiler*?
Well, I think HP6 is less exciting than previous ones. But still not bad.
There are heated debates on harry a horcrux already. What do you think? I thi
nk there is a chance he is.But it looks like everybody believes you can only k
ill to get rid of Voldermort.I don't know. Maybe that is true. and like Termin
ator 2, harry will decide to sacrifice in the end? I just hope that is not the
only solution if harry is a horcrux. Remember love is the most powerful weapo
n(isn't that like a oneliner fro
f*****o
发帖数: 113
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来自主题: Reader版 - can Harry be a horcrux too*spoiler*?
I think in book 6 dumbledore said Voldemort intended to make a horcrux w/
killing Potters, but he failed, so he had to make the last horcrux into his
snake w/ killing the old muggle at the beginning of book4.
F**********e
发帖数: 2135
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来自主题: Reader版 - can Harry be a horcrux too*spoiler*?
hence snape will have to bring extremely useful information in book 7.
for example he gets out from voldmort locations of every horcruxes, or
steals from voldmort some spell or charm to kill voldmort's body and all
horcruxes at the same time.... hoho
t******l
发帖数: 40
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来自主题: Reader版 - can Harry be a horcrux too*spoiler*?
I am not buying it. The whole point of having Horcrux is to preserve part of y
our soul so that you can be immortal. Why waste 1/7 of your soul on some enemy
you have every intention to kill?
c*******t
发帖数: 144
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来自主题: Reader版 - can Harry be a horcrux too*spoiler*?
No way. J.K.Rowling said herself in book 5... Harry was too "pure in
heart" for the Dark Lord to live in his body. Remember the agony they
both felt when Lord Voldemort possessed Harry for a while? Neither of
them could stand it.
Plus, not all horcruxes have a lighting-shaped scar... That diary of
Tom Riddle's didn't, for example... :)
EJ
发帖数: 23
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来自主题: Reader版 - can Harry be a horcrux too*spoiler*?
Still think the horcrux has to be a souvenir from killing his victim. Any hor
crux possibly from killing James and Lily and Harry?
EJ
发帖数: 23
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来自主题: Reader版 - can Harry be a horcrux too*spoiler*?
Dumbledore said Nagini is a pure speculation and made sure Harry understand th
e
difference between these speculations from the ones he is sure about, like the
locket, ring, and diary, etc.

killing Potters, but he failed, so he had to make the last horcrux into his
snake w/ killing the old muggle at the beginning of book4.
...................
p*******g
发帖数: 34
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来自主题: Reader版 - can Harry be a horcrux too*spoiler*?
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T*******e
发帖数: 195
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来自主题: Reader版 - HP7里我觉得最大的两个问题
第一个是Horcrux的性质,按照JRK的说法,
A Horcrux represents the exact opposite of a human in terms of containing a
soul; while harm to the human body will cause no damage to the soul, the
fragment of soul within a Horcrux depends on this corporeal form to exist.
JRK的这个写法为摧毁Horcrux提供了可能,可是引出一个更大的问题。
那就是,既然杀死一个人,不会毁坏他的灵魂,那为什么还要把灵魂分成几块做成
Horcrux呢?死后直接寻找肉身复活就好。比如HP1里控制Prof Quirrell的身体。
实际上JKR对Voldemort如何用Horcrux复活也没讲清楚。
第二个问题是Elder Wand的所属,写得不清楚。
先说最后,Harry决定把Wand还回Dumbledore的墓里,并认为,if he dies of a
natural death,
s*****s
发帖数: 12
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来自主题: Reader版 - HP7里我觉得最大的两个问题
虽然明白不要以permanent damaged的脑袋来看待罗琳的魔法理论体系,但是……忍不
住纠结
Horcrux的问题,如楼上两位所说,巫师死后即便可以选择以幽灵的形式存在,在罗琳
的魔法体系里她大概也不承认幽灵可以捕获肉身复活的理论吧。但HP1那个不死不活可
以用魔法复活的第8个灵魂残片确实是个有趣的问题。老V第一次阿瓦达自己的时候怎么
会产生了这么个东西?那这样看来他第二次阿瓦达自己应该也不会死干净的,后来……
非要帮罗琳解释,也许可以说:
一、可能第一次那个是个制作Horcrux过程中的副产品。
但总觉得有些奇怪,明显不够完美。制作Horcrux看罗琳的意思应该是很复杂的黑魔法
,不是把人杀了就完成了的。那杀Harry的时候制造了Horcrux本身就意外并且违背理论
了——老V又没杀人灵魂干嘛分裂啊?就算这家伙杀人如麻(并且刚杀了lily和james),
但专门想要用来做Horcrux的这一个他没杀就是没杀,干嘛还要背灵魂分裂的黑锅啊?
而制造Horcrux之余,竟然还产生了个不死不活不明不白的东西,这一次实验能量之巨
大,产生的各项意外成果应该绝对可以引起所有黑巫师的兴趣,
wh
发帖数: 141625
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哦。他家的那个elf不友好。那个放在bellatrix银行密室里的locket horcrux是他给的
线索。第一个horcrux找的时间最长,后面几个越来越赶似的一个比一个找得快。
d****i
发帖数: 397
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来自主题: Reader版 - hp7里面的几点疑问
同感,因为是倒着看得(汗),看了结局在从前面看的时候满以为snape怎么也要毁一
个horcrux的。。。
老校长也的确是狠得下心,snape为他死活那么多年,还是不告诉他一丁点horcrux的秘
密。snape临死都不知道为什么。

了.
d****i
发帖数: 397
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来自主题: Reader版 - hp7里面的几点疑问
right, obviously snape knows what is horcrux and harry potter is one of the
horcruxes. I don't see the point of hiding the truth from him.
Tom riddle can read harry's mind if he wants, even though he isn't likely to
do it anymore according to dumbledore's guess, it is still most dangerous
for harry to know the truth (recall that dumbledore doesn't want harry to
know snape is the good guy, in case Riddle reads him mind).
sorry,no chinese input in this computer
w******g
发帖数: 333
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来自主题: Reader版 - hp7里面的几点疑问
老邓和snape说这件事情的时候完全没有提到horcrux这个词,只是说LV有一些灵魂碎片
在harry身上,所以harry必需死。我想他不跟snape说horcrux是因为这实在是太黑暗的
魔法,而snape一直对dark arts兴趣很大。
E******n
发帖数: 641
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来自主题: Reader版 - hp7里面的几点疑问
RAB himself is good at dark arts, and horcrux isn't such a rare secret as in
Hogwarts. What most don't know is that LV could make multiple horcruxes,
not just one.
y*****y
发帖数: 3433
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来自主题: Reader版 - hp7里面的几点疑问

罗琳大妈自己说的:
James Farrell: Voldemort never told anyone about his horcruxes, so how on
earth did regulus black discover his secret
J.K. Rowling: Horcrux magic was not Voldemort’s own invention; as is
established in the story, other wizards had done it, though never gone as
far as to make six.
J.K. Rowling: Voldemort dropped oblique hints; in his arrogance, he did not
believe anybody would be clever enough to understand them.
J.K. Rowling: (He does so in the graveyard of Little Hangleton, in front
d****i
发帖数: 397
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来自主题: Reader版 - The deathly hallows疑点
另外,dumbledore早就知道lv会回来的。整整15年,他到最后一两年才开始找horcrux
的线索,早干嘛了呀?灵魂不死的方法应该不是很多吧,lv显然不是master of the
death,用用排除法也早该知道那是horcrux亚。
lv也够蠢的,校长都把那个potion的老老师请回来上课了,他还是对校长的意图一无所
知。
qd
发帖数: 74
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大家说说Voldemort可以进入HP的脑子看他在想什么吗?貌似第五本是V有本事force
Harry进入V的脑子,Snape还得教HP那个O什么术,去尽力割断这种connection。第七本
后来HP可以收放自如了。可是是不是Voldemort从来没看过HP的思维? 不然的话,
Voldemort在攻击Hogwarts之前就应该知道好几个Horcruxes都毁了。
还有,不知道是不是我看的不仔细,到底Voldemort知道不知道HP是第七个Horcrux? 知
道的话Voldemort还要想杀HP?
E******n
发帖数: 641
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来自主题: Reader版 - HP7里我觉得最大的两个问题
You're so wrong, Dumbledore in HP7 already explained this clearly:
He killed himself in that strike at HP.
"但总觉得有些奇怪,明显不够完美。制作Horcrux看罗琳的意思应该是很复杂的黑魔法
,不是把人杀了就完成了的。那杀Harry的时候制造了Horcrux本身就意外并且违背理论
了——老V又没杀人灵魂干嘛分裂啊?"
s*****s
发帖数: 12
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来自主题: Reader版 - HP7里我觉得最大的两个问题
hey! you're so~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~right
看清楚问题行不行啊?我问的是,为什么他还有那个不死不活的东西。他到底杀“死”
了自己没有啊?为什么别人杀了死就死、活就活、幽灵就幽灵,他有了那个不死不活的
不是幽灵也没有肉身的东西啊?他没杀死harry,连自己都没杀“死”,就算灵魂已经
不稳定了并且在“一瞬间”(不需要常规需要的其它咒语)就制造了Horcrux,但为什
么还留了那么个东西啊?
罗琳自己都还没说圆呢。我当然知道Harry这个Horcrux是个特例,说了就是纠结一下而
已。那些根本不是什么真的缺陷或者差错,只是感觉上没那么清晰完美,你跳着脚so
wrong个什么劲啊,罗琳也不是别人讨论歪了她的意思就跳着脚的让人"Respect Her
Authority!"的吧
讨论就讨论,客气些就不能显示你的压倒性Authority了么?
E******n
发帖数: 641
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来自主题: Reader版 - HP7里我觉得最大的两个问题
你反应过度,你原来的问题有一堆,我说你so wrong的地方,是针对这个问题“那杀Harry的时候制造了Horcrux本身就意外并且违背理论了——老V又没杀人灵魂干嘛分裂啊?”
至于后一个问题,他用那个咒语avada...意外杀死自己后,没有马上消失还留着灵魂的原因就是他在这之前已经做好了6个horcrux,否则他和别人一样利马完蛋。
c**i
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John Gapper, China's Migrant Workers Expect More. Financial Times, Sept 8,
2011 (column).
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/78d7af1e
-d93a-11e0-884e-00144feabdc0.html
Quote:
"It is not hard to see why Li [Feifei, a female migrant worker of 19] would
like to leave Fuji Xerox, despite its reputation as one of the [Shenzhen]
City's most humanely ran plants, for that world" of attending college and
becoming a fahsion designer.
""There is plenty of work for migrants in its fast-growing economy, but
their [mi... 阅读全帖
c*********y
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来源: 杨☜♥☞桦的日志
虽然本人平时也会写一点小文章,运气好了出出书什么的,但各位注意:作者系天津的
翟文喆老师:http://www.renren.com/247533971/profile
1、哈利是学什么专业的?
霍格沃茨是所魔法学校,当然是学“魔法”的。问题是,现实生活中“魔法”到底是什
么呢?
众所周知,霍格沃茨包括四大学院,哈利三人组所在的学院叫做“格莱芬多”,那么什
么是格莱芬多呢?

影片里,每个魔法学院的学生,着装上都有自己学院的徽标,格莱芬多学院的学生,衣
服上,帽子上都有一个“格莱芬多”,这个词的词根是gryffin,音译为“格里芬”,
格里芬是中世纪传说中的神兽,具体形象是一只长翅膀的狮子,因此在很多中世纪文学
和游戏中,也翻译成“狮鹫兽”。
大家能从下面的图片中找到格里芬吗?
如果你在右下角找到的话,还应该顺便看看上面的几个字:inns of court / school
of law.,可以简单的翻译成“律师学院”。
凡是英国人都能看懂,霍格沃茨的四个“学院”,原型就是英国法律界著名的“四大律
师学院”:林肯、格雷、内... 阅读全帖
l**s
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来自主题: Military版 - 中国人的素质确实比日本人高
中国人在不列颠的报纸发表文章,把日本军国主义比作伏地魔
If militarism is like the haunting Voldemort of Japan,
the Yasukuni Shrine in Tokyo is a kind of horcrux,
representing the darkest parts of that nationˇs soul.
日本人在不列颠的报纸发表还击文章,把中国比作伏地魔
China risks becoming Asia's Voldemort
The other is to play the role of Voldemort in the region
by letting loose the evil of an arms race and escalation of tensions,
although Japan will not escalate the situation from its side.
中国人攻击的是军国主义,日本人攻击的是中国,用bbs的... 阅读全帖
E*V
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中国人在不列颠的报纸发表文章,把日本军国主义比作伏地魔
If militarism is like the haunting Voldemort of Japan,
the Yasukuni Shrine in Tokyo is a kind of horcrux,
representing the darkest parts of that nationˇs soul.
日本人在不列颠的报纸发表还击文章,把中国比作伏地魔
China risks becoming Asia's Voldemort
The other is to play the role of Voldemort in the region
by letting loose the evil of an arms race and escalation of tensions,
although Japan will not escalate the situation from its side.
中国人攻击的是军国主义,日本人攻击的是中国,用bbs的术语叫做PA
日本人的素质连bbs辩论都不如,确实是丢人现眼
d****g
发帖数: 7460
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你说最开始,dumbledore抱着襁褓里的harry。。。
你说伏地魔杀戮无数,怎么就栽在这里头了。。
我觉得harry是dumbledore给伏地魔下的套儿。。
就着预言,让potter一家藏起来,让snape去给伏地魔求情,他不一定知道小老鼠会去
告密,但他也可能预见到,然后各种条件满足后,施了个大法,拿哈利做诱饵,指着伏
地魔能一举被破。。没料到有horcrux。。
所以dumbledore才一直都非常照顾harry。其实也有点儿内疚。
a******e
发帖数: 6689
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来自主题: LeisureTime版 - Harry Potter 7-2归来(剧透,慎入)
谢谢。看到了“when Voldemort used Harry's blood to regain his full strength,
it protected Harry from Voldemort harming him; the Horcrux inside Harry has
been destroyed, and Harry can return to his body despite being hit by the
Killing Curse”
x*****7
发帖数: 4749
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再来一个:伏地魔
According to an interview with Rowling, "Voldemort" is pronounced with a
silent 't' at the end, as in the French word "mort", meaning "death".
Vol de mort means "theft of death/death theft" in French; a possible
reference to the bloodlust that characterises the dark Lord or a reference
to his attempt to escape death through the Horcrux.
As the ghost of Riddle explains (at the end of Harry Potter and the Chamber
of Secrets), his complete name is Tom Marvolo Riddle, which, when
anagrammat... 阅读全帖
x*****7
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再来一个:伏地魔
According to an interview with Rowling, "Voldemort" is pronounced with a
silent 't' at the end, as in the French word "mort", meaning "death".
Vol de mort means "theft of death/death theft" in French; a possible
reference to the bloodlust that characterises the dark Lord or a reference
to his attempt to escape death through the Horcrux.
As the ghost of Riddle explains (at the end of Harry Potter and the Chamber
of Secrets), his complete name is Tom Marvolo Riddle, which, when
anagrammat... 阅读全帖
S***d
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Higher ranked are mostly genre movies.If u don't like genre shows, u won't
agree with the ranking here.
http://www.imdb.com/list/2KPGc_OIRYU/
1.
Add to Watchlist
Captain America: The First Avenger (2011)
-/10
After being deemed unfit for military service, Steve Rogers volunteers for a
top secret research project that turns him into Captain America, a
superhero dedicated to defending America's ideals.
Director: Joe Johnston
Stars: Chris Evans, Hugo Weaving, Samuel L. Jackson, Stanley Tucci
I... 阅读全帖
b*******y
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还有,Harry居然对Elbert说,i am looking for horcruxes。我震惊了,这个是他们
三个始终守口如瓶的事情。
b*******y
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电影里破坏一个horcrux, voldemort就痛苦状。我想问编剧:你看书没?
书里明确说,V是不会有感觉的。他以为他是最牛的巫师,他的soul被破坏了,他不可
能不知道。但是他的soul离开身体太久,他感觉不到了。这又是V自负犯下的错误之一。
S****Y
发帖数: 4634
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来自主题: Movie版 - HP的一个问题
V有horcrux啊。
再说,v又不是英雄,打不过就跑了跟上次在minister一样,也不用救人的
f*********l
发帖数: 315
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来自主题: Movie版 - HP 一问题 (剧透)
Neville最后杀蛇的时候用的什么刀?
不是只有毒牙和真的Gryffindor宝刀才能毁灭Horcrux.
f*********l
发帖数: 315
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来自主题: Movie版 - HP 一问题 (剧透)
他怎么搞到那把刀的?我记得书真的刀被一个goblin带走了,所以后来harry potter他
们只能用毒牙破坏了那个装Horcrux的杯子。
b**o
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mnemonics_for_the_cranial_
As one author has noted, "Generations of biology and medical students have
relied on mnemonic (memory-aiding) phrases and ditties, ranging from
sublimely silly to the unprintably ribald, to help them remember the cranial
nerves..."[1]
The cranial nerves are:
I - Olfactory nerve
II - Optic nerve
III - Oculomotor nerve
IV - Trochlear nerve/pathic nerve
V - Trigeminal nerve/dentist nerve
VI - Abducens nerve
VII - Facial nerve
VIII - Ve... 阅读全帖
f*****o
发帖数: 113
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来自主题: Reader版 - can Harry be a horcrux too*spoiler*?
i didn't have such impression from page 506 yah..
Anyway, all are their guess. Maybe Voldemort later though 8 or 9 the most
powerfully magical number.. LOL
c*******t
发帖数: 144
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来自主题: Reader版 - can Harry be a horcrux too*spoiler*?
Haha, how about this: Lord Voldemort got so scared of his own death
that he decided to create a corcrux with every killing. And poor
Harry spent the rest of his life trying to hunt them down... he
eventually died of old age and dispair.
Even now, I can't see how Harry could finish off four corcruxes
and a Lord Voldemort in a single book...
a****g
发帖数: 295
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来自主题: Reader版 - can Harry be a horcrux too*spoiler*?
yah. I am keeping thinking of what to be in the last installment. just
too much stuff , too many questions to answer in a single book
J****n
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来自主题: Reader版 - can Harry be a horcrux too*spoiler*?
snape在hp7里死掉是必然的,嘿嘿
F**********e
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来自主题: Reader版 - can Harry be a horcrux too*spoiler*?
re
x****n
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来自主题: Reader版 - can Harry be a horcrux too*spoiler*?
//nod
c*******t
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来自主题: Reader版 - can Harry be a horcrux too*spoiler*?
Nay... I think it's Harry who's doomed in book 7. :D Snape could be
the next Hogwarts headmaster.
t******l
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That's a very dark thought you got there. Snape is anything but a good teacher
. God help all Hogwarts students if he becomes headmaster.=)
F**********e
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Since McGonagal is not likely to die, I doubt the possibility. And
for Harry I think he's going to be the DADA teacher, hehe.
c*******t
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No no, I truely think it is a possibility. :) You see, if Snape was
good, and did survive the war with Lord Voldemort, and wish to go
back to Hogwarts, his work against the dark lord would have exceeded
any other Hogwarts teacher's.
And I wouldn't worry about students in Hogwarts... did you know that
Slytherin, not Gryffindor, is the most popular house on the web? :D
c*******t
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Bummer for Harry, he wanted to be an auror... :)
f*****o
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I think Snape will retire with glory then. lol~
about the popular of Slytherin, an interview of Jo is very interesting:
(from http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/)
MA: What does it do to you to see a character that you love, for people to express sheer hate -
ES: Or vice versa.
JKR: It amuses me. It honestly amuses me. People have been waxing lyrical [in letters] about Draco Malfoy, and I think that's the only time when it stopped amusing me and started almost worrying me. I'm trying to clearly di
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