T********n
发帖数: 528 | 1
hold
贪没有什么不好啊！贪才有动力！我就是贪吃，贪睡，贪玩（和爱LP，LP也看mitbbs,
不想又被骂没出息）
Limit hold'em has bigger swings because it's much harder to protect hands
given the fixed betting structure. When you can't protect your hand with a
pot-sized bet, or more importantly, when you can't protect your hand through
the fear of future large bets - a lot more hands get to the river (right or
wrong). In other words, people realize their hand's equity far more
frequent in Limit Hold'em than in No Limit Hold'em. When that happe... 阅读全帖 |
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b*****t
发帖数: 52 | 2 首先声明超级菜鸟一只。
周五马掌赌场。以前都是玩１－２的NLHE，看了潭老师的大作觉得LHE也很有意思，而
且好象和NLHE打发也不太一样，于是决定尝试一下LHE，注册了５－１０LHE的桌子。
上桌BUYIN了５００，马上就被嘲笑了。最多一个人是买了３００＋的CHIP。有某白说
你不是走错桌子了吧。脸红。下注大小也是DEALER提醒，不知道啥时候能压５块啥时候
能压１０块。去之前抓紧时间看了SUPERSYSTEM２里面关于LHE的头２０页。决定打的
TIGHT一点。坐了４个小时，打了差不多８０＋手？反正感觉比NLHE要快一些。很少有
人长考。自己参与了应该最多２０％。其中１０手参与较深，其他几手参与较浅。
上桌９人。一个女的打的不错。比较凶,LAG。决大多数喜欢LIMP不喜欢RAISE。三个人
极其LOOSE，基本上参与５０％的HANDS,CALLING STATION.剩下３个人比较TIGHT。有牌
才打,NIT?。我本人也属于TIGHT类型的,正在努力做TAG型。剩下一个人看不太出来。
其中两手牌。
UTG（CALLSTATION） raise preflop
fold fold ... 阅读全帖 |
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T********n
发帖数: 528 | 3 不知道是不是有另外一个潭老师，可是我这个贪吃贪睡的人来回复一下吧～
Welcome to LHE! It is indeed a different type of game with different skill
sets, more social, bigger swings, and a lot of fun.
As you probably know by now, most people buy in for one to two racks, but no
more than that. As long as you have enough chips to put in the max bets
per street, you don't need more of that on the table at once.
5/10属于“no fold'em hold'em"的系列。基本上是showdown poker，best hand wins
。所以就是bet it when you have it, raise it when you have the best ... 阅读全帖 |
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b*****t
发帖数: 52 | 4 嘿嘿潭老师就是您啊.我总不能用贪老师阿.太不敬了.
我非常感谢您的详细解释! 确实解释了我的两个大问题.第一个hand我call之前很犹豫
，此前fold了一些A4,A5,有点耐心缺失。这个hand看来是输在起跑线上了。我回去把书
架上的那本small stack holdem 拿出来仔细看看。另外一个确实如您所说，我也觉得
那个hand到了river基本上就是赌一把的状态。当时我故意bet错了。然后被dealer给纠
正了。给了那个对手一个错觉。让他觉得我有不错的hand,估计他fold了flop上的top
pair或者mid pair.如果到了showdown我估计死菜了。
我其实还有两个问题，第一个是您为啥说会有bigger swing呢？我一直以为limit hold
'em起伏要小一点点。另外就是在这种small stack LHE的桌子上，一个小时或者100把
hand需要能up 多少个BB才算打得可以可以升一级尝试呢？
skill
no
wins
or |
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s*********k
发帖数: 1989 | 5 Let's have LHE game here. |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 6 I don't think LHE will die down. But I think the better players in NLH will not go back to LHE to make a profit. I don't play much LHE or PLO, but my understanding of these 3 game are as such.
LHE->NLH-> PLO
The importance of your hole cards decrease in order. (less important does not mean not important. it only means that you can play a wider range.)
LHE is mainly playing your hole cards. You can rarely bluff anyone out of a pot and you can not protect your hand either. People call to see show ... 阅读全帖 |
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T********n
发帖数: 528 | 7 Yeah I agree with this. Most of my friends believe LHE is deeper
strategically than NL at the higher levels. Because of the fixed-bet format
a lot of setups is more delicate and requires adaptation to game flow /
dynamic elements. You're also forced to make plays more at the big-bet
streets, and LHE has more multi-street aggression change. As long as you
are in a high enough stakes or serious enough game, these elements will be
the key difference between winning or losing.
Also a lot of peo... 阅读全帖 |
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T********n
发帖数: 528 | 8 limit format整个来说在～2000年之前是比NL流行。70年代是draw/lowball最热门，80
年代是stud，90年代hold'em开始大众化，特别是tv coverage加上holecard viewing让
NLHE几乎一年内就追上LHE。我是在boom2-3年前开始玩的，当时Indian Reservation赌
场是5-6桌LHE，1桌Stud，1桌NLHE。3年后，NLHE跟LHE几乎反过来了。新的玩家来赌场
都是想要玩他们在电视上看到的扑克。从此LHE一蹶不振。
2010大概是LHE的lowpoint，不过最近LHE又开始revival了。不仅LHE，连stud format,
draw, 甚至pot-limit format，which was only popular in Europe,又渐渐的regain
market（table）share。
我个人认为5-10年后还是会渐渐恢复non-NLformat的因为NLformat还是太伤fish的和气
。而大部分人还是fish要玩什么就玩什么。fish也不笨。NLHE attracted an ent... 阅读全帖 |
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T********n
发帖数: 528 | 9 If you consistently try to bluff catch in LHE because there are so many
showdowns it will be a huge leak in your game. In the mid 2000s most
winning players had 45% go-to-showdown, and by late 2000 it was trending to
55% go-to-showdown, but still not anywhere to the point that bluffing
becomes unprofitable.
I think we need to qualify what you wrote below with 'if you play straight-
forward'.
PLO is an equity game - much different than hold'em of either variety. Like
you said the hand equities ... 阅读全帖 |
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T********n
发帖数: 528 | 10 Poker in general is a game of mistakes, but because in LHE you make more
decisions for smaller impact per decision, you therefore get many more
chances to be right (or wrong) for one bet at a time (or sometimes one pot,
but never for more than that).
The characteristic that makes some of the great ones great is what makes
them successful at any game. That doesn't mean that a great NLH player
would automatically be a great LHE player ,though. Probably aside from
being a great poker player, that... 阅读全帖 |
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T********n
发帖数: 528 | 11 On variance with same blinds - of course you shouldn't compare given same
blinds. This is why usually limit to NL variance comparisons are done with
comparing buyins (while more detailed comparisons take into account winrate)
. So you can say NL 100 is close enough to equate to 3/6 LHE (3/6 LHE is
bigger), and given those two games if you play a TAG winning style, in
general LHE has higher variance. The only time NL 100 will be a higher
variance is if you play a "see you at the river" game an... 阅读全帖 |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 12
On variance with same blinds - of course you shouldn't compare given same
blinds. This is why usually limit to NL variance comparisons are done with
comparing buyins (while more detailed comparisons take into account winrate)
. So you can say NL 100 is close enough to equate to 3/6 LHE (3/6 LHE is
bigger), and given those two games if you play a TAG winning style, in
general LHE has higher variance. The only time NL 100 will be a higher
variance is if you play a "see you at the river" game a... 阅读全帖 |
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T********n
发帖数: 528 | 13 LHE definitely requires a different mindset because as you said there are
plenty of draws and you can't protect your hand with a large enough bet that
will severely punish someone from drawing with terrible odds.
So in that sense you accept a lot of people will make smaller mistakes than
in NL, and you really need iron will as you will run into much more
longshots getting there.
When my LP started learning how to play I actually advocated for her to
start with LHE even though there are much more... 阅读全帖 |
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p*******p
发帖数: 13670 | 14 关键tan老师的意思是，鱼会流向哪里，你再好的player，没鱼给你，你砸赚钱啊
will not go back to LHE to make a profit. I don't play much LHE or PLO, but
my understanding of these 3 game are as such.
not mean not important. it only means that you can play a wider range.)
a pot and you can not protect your hand either. People call to see show down
and rightfully so because they always have odds to call down once they are
in a pot. So LHE is most
implied odds. You can also bluff and value bet more effective. This creates
much more s... 阅读全帖 |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 15 a lot of the things can be said about bluff and bluff catch. But there is
not much in LHE that is out of scope of NLH. It is simply an ev calculation
among the 3 important elements--
1) your equity in the pot based on your hand and your read for opponents
range,
2) size of the bet
3) the bluff frequency from your opponents.
Input these 3 variables, and you can get your most optimal move about bluff and bluff catch.
When it gets to high level, the bluff frequency of good players can be
constantl... 阅读全帖 |
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T********n
发帖数: 528 | 16 响应老大东部版聚之邀，LP和我礼拜四早早的从San Diego飞到费城。
虽然遗憾的没见到老大，可是和众东部版友们见面，打牌，吃饭，交流，真的感觉此行
不虚。帮主（熊熊）门下盛名之下无虚士。大家都是对打牌有一定的理解，热情，控制
。希望下次再见到更多新旧朋友。
在此报告一下这次我俩的Trip Report，希望可以让更多人愿意参加下一次的小或大版
聚。 （Vegas gogogo!)
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礼拜四 11/22
从礼拜二就已经进入度假模式了。去Commerce住一晚。ran bad。把上个礼拜赢的全部
输掉了。555.因为chase loss所以礼拜三很晚才回到家。睡2-3个小时。急急忙忙的整
理行李。LP说又不是去相亲。快快快,有带ID就好！
本来计划飞机上睡觉。可是最近迷上open face Chinese（2-3年前在东欧开始流行的一
种 Chinese Poker variant，大概上个月开始在LA热起来）。大部分可以用来睡的时间
用来教LP玩。看来我这个贪睡文该改成贪吃文或贪玩文才比较符合最近的第一优先。
到了费城到达旅馆发现Parx比想象中大啊。赶快去熟悉环境。去了Mai... 阅读全帖 |
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T********n
发帖数: 528 | 17 Update:
礼拜二 11/27
明天早上6点的飞机，不想在Parx呆太久所以十二点就离开了。
吃完饭去Poker Room一看果然人多。这次就有看到很多在Commerce常见的熟面孔。到的
时候有:
400/800 Stud 8
25/50 NL
75-150 H.O.E. x2
10/10 NL x3
40/80 Omaha 8
30/60 LHE
2/5 NL x7
PLO 5
15/30 LHE x2
1/2 NL x 12
还有一些零零星星不同的小mix和小LHE
LP玩了一下1/2NL就有15/30LHE的座位了。这一趟美中不足就是LP没有咬到鱼。今天也
是小输一点，就算在我的账上吧。
我打了2/5大概1个小时。接下来新的30-60LHE Must-Move开了。great 4 handed game.
赢了～1个rack。可是去main game后连输4-5手。最后LHE今晚差不多打平。今晚Parx30
-60LHE main game的水平很不错。只有2-3个看起来次一等的可是no one was giving
it away.
大部分钱都是从一事NL来的。欢迎讨论。... 阅读全帖 |
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T********n
发帖数: 528 | 18 Very low stakes LHE is not beatable because the rake is too high relative to
the realistically achievable win rates in that game. 8/16 becomes the
first limit that you see some people supplement income with a small win.
Some pros believe that 20/40 + prop wages is the first tier where you have
people that can sustain a decent standard of living by playing just LHE. Of
course, it's possible there are people that can make a nice enough living
by playing just 20/40 without prop wages, but those ... 阅读全帖 |
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T********n
发帖数: 528 | 19 在外出差两个礼拜，中间只有从旧金山飞回自己家过了短短的两个小时就和LP一起飞去
纽约了。那个礼拜每天早出晚归真的很累。终于到了母亲节周末，我们俩和家人约好在
拉斯维加斯度过假日。高高兴兴的去玩了～
礼拜五：
上了飞机发现没有个人的in-flight entertainment也没有wifi available这哪门子的
东部直飞西部啊？（有公司给的gogo wifi帐号所以没用到就感觉像吃了亏似的）。还
好是早上六点就呼呼大睡了。
这次住在MGM Grand。Hostess一直说renovate后怎么怎么好。还可以啦。吃完午餐不够
时间打扑克，就去当个degenerate玩table games。小小的玩。小小的赢。
跟家人吃完晚餐后去看看MGM Grand的Poker Room的小mix（6-12）。Spread的大部分是
我比较喜欢的种类。Triple Draw + Badeucey + Badacey + Razzdugi + Omaha 8
Double Qualifier (不喜欢！！） + Stud 8。4 handed还算挺好玩的。可是没有LHE给
LP玩，而别的玩家只有... 阅读全帖 |
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T********n
发帖数: 528 | 20 Thin value bets are very important in LHE because each bet is equal. A bet
saved is a bet earned. An easy value bet is worth the same as a thin value
bet. But everyone can do the easy value bets, so thin value bets or big (
correct) laydowns is what differentiate long-run winrate.
His river bluff is weak. That's why I called. I don't want to give people
the wrong idea - calling down K high consistently in LHE, or calling down
with equivalent strength hands in any poker game, is burning mone... 阅读全帖 |
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T********n
发帖数: 528 | 21 这几个月来以业余的来说打了很多牌.
本来是想仔细的recap从四月到六月的highlights.可是we live in the present! 所以
就简单的bullet point 吧~
1) LP成功的把一个小bankroll成长到可以take shots at 20/40 LHE. Take shot的结
果不错,目前大概+$3000. 她又自己开始看2p2,问的问题也比较有意义. 乐观的我认为
她应该已经是small winner at weekend LA 20/40 games.
2) 虽然六月让我想吐with a 250 big bet downwing. 整体来说还是非常满意的. Q2打
了175小时的20/40赢~1.2big bet per hour (BB/hr). 145小时的40/80赢~1.75BB/hr.
9小时的60/120输了~6BB/hr 哭(technically this was in July, but oh well I
didn't export my data right on July 1st)). 零零星星打了30-40小时... 阅读全帖 |
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T********n
发帖数: 528 | 22 又开始常常去打牌啦～昨天下班后和LP一起去玩，离我家最近的地方礼拜五有40/80LHE
.我从5pm打到4am。本来想要半夜走可是实在是run的太good了所以舍不得走！！
最后赢了10个racks！！！可惜没想到照照片。我没有把10dollar chips color up所以
那个chip mountain挺有气势的！看着真是爽啦啦啦。
不是要故意BSO，只是太高兴了。我牌打的算是多的，而这只是我生平第三次10+rack
session in limit hold'em。
顺便一提，LP也heater at 8/16 LHE。 6 1/2 racks. 她才开始学半年，这是她run的
最好的一次。我们回家高高兴兴的～
Share一手我大概又玩错的。
40/80 9 handed. 4 players with overs including me (post-flop if at the
start of any street the remaining players all have overs buttons then the
stakes doubles, in thi... 阅读全帖 |
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T********n
发帖数: 528 | 23
took
If
0
I
they have poker room now?
know
That's not the exact story with Barona - I can tell you what the story/
background is in person heh. But for all intents and purposes, they watch
that game closely yeah and now it's gone forever (at least likely forever).
Oceans is a small card club but decent size player pool. 10/20 NL always
runs 2 tables Tuesday and Friday, and often the game goes into Wednesday/
Saturday primetime. There is usually a 5/10 as well (500-3000 buy-in).
I usually pla... 阅读全帖 |
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T********n
发帖数: 528 | 24 It's very difficult to never have a losing month. Especially for live games
, if you want to pump in a lot of hours you start playing at non-prime time
where game selection is worse. When games are worse than win rates are
lower, and then swings are sicker.
For a good mid-high stakes LHE player at Commerce showing consistent 100-
200k profit year after year (depending on stakes, hours, and skill) isn't so
difficult. I know of at least 5-6 of those players, but all those guys
take turns going ... 阅读全帖 |
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T********n
发帖数: 528 | 25 I played PLO extensively the last two years when I thought it would be the
next big thing. My local cardroom spreads it twice a week, but when the
most I see is 2-3 tables at the most popular PLO card rooms it's hard for me
to see that it's the next big thing. It's certainly the next big niche -
much more so online than live, but I don't see it overtaking hold'em of
either variety anytime soon.
If LHE starts dying out then I think, in a few years, it will become a
staple in mixed games. Right... 阅读全帖 |
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T********n
发帖数: 528 | 26 Thank you for the kind words! LHE and NLHE does have distinct differences.
I try to explain my reasoning behind the hands so it's easier for everyone
to follow along. It won't always be right, but at least people can see
where I'm coming from with the logic.
I've played plenty of NLHE but would not consider myself an expert in NLHE
theory aside from its overlap with poker in general. I play whatever game
that looks the best and sometimes that's NLHE, but because of the work I've
put into LHE,... 阅读全帖 |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 27 does LHE have concept of value bet thin too? What was the river-bet to pot
ratio in that hand? fish me still can not understand the weak river bluff
from villain. what hand did he want to drive off? Fish me think, in most
cases, hero sends one more bet to the made NUTs and in some rare cases
villain might bluff with better hands. Can teacher Tan explain the
difference between NLHE bluff and LHE bluff. |
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T********n
发帖数: 528 | 28 My LP is always searching for your posts on this board - there was a fake
you going around a while ago and earlier in the MPT #11 thread on the first
page you had a different avatar than the picture you use in this post and
Pages 2-6, so my LP was very confused she thought the fake you returned!
But it seems like you are just using a different picture or something.
Most 8-16 games is still low enough stakes that people chase hardcore.
Swings are huge when people chase. It's not so much you wa... 阅读全帖 |
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T********n
发帖数: 528 | 29 60/120 LHE @ Commerce this past weekend.
8 handed, quite a few people tilting at the table. Several big fish.
UTG open (solid player but range is wide)
UTG+2 3b (solid player but sometimes spewy)
I am in CO with 97dd, I call 3 cold because I'm one of the ones tilted and
the fishes are in the blind. Bad play on my part preflop.
SB fish calls
BB fish calls (this now makes my play not as bad)
Flop 864ddd.
I flop flush with two outs to straight flush.
Check to me I bet, sb call, bb call, UTG and U... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1903 | 30 我主要打LHE 20/40，以前打8/16 half kill，一晚上就一个session，
buy in 累计不超过2-3个rack，有时候run bad就broke回家了。
run good的时候赢2-4个rack不等，再多也很难keep up。
我觉得一个session里面chip size就像股票一样涨涨跌跌，是赢还是输就看什么时候离
场。
高点或者高点回落时候离场就有profit，但run good回落的时候要不要再追？
有时候把赢的钱都输回去心态也会变差，越输越多本钱也进去了。
在牌桌上经常看到赢了4，5个rack的chip leader死活不走，
结果换个dealer一阵bad beat下来又都输回去了，最后挣扎半天还是broke离场。
chip打光broke离场就是割在了地板上，但认赔离场是不是止损最好的选择？
试过不止损继续rebuy，有打回make even的，也有输更多被清光的。
大家都是什么标准？特别是LHE 。
看了谭老师的一些帖子，好像从不止损，多的时候能买5个rack，我自己肯定下不去手。 |
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s******x
发帖数: 15232 | 31 所以说没有必要用LN2 啊
用LHe就更杀鸡用牛刀了，何况现在LHe这么贵，他们又不象是懂得用closed cycle的..... |
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y***o
发帖数: 145 | 32 please see the rape case police report:
SOURCE OF ACTIVITY
On December 2n3, 2005, at approximately 1600 hours, I, Detective Ramire:t: #
25992, contacted
Confidential Victim WanT. and she agreed to come to Hollywood Station to
complete a crime report.
INVESTIGATION
WanT. arrived at Hollywood Station and staled she became pregnant a-result
of a rape, in February
003, al the hands of her ex-boyfriend, later identified as Allen Miller
Levine, who at that time
was
known as Allen Miller Isaac.
WanT.st... 阅读全帖 |
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a****b
发帖数: 3588 | 34 【 以下文字转载自 Joke 讨论区 】
发信人: NYC (NewYork is a dirty word?), 信区: Joke
标 题: 有人转过学外语全集了吗？
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Mar 9 16:25:22 2011, 美东)
先是法语
老子两年前选了法语课！！！！！！！！
于是踏上了尼玛不归路 啊！！！！！！！！！！
谁跟老子讲法语是世界上最油煤的语言啊！！！！！！！！
尼玛听的哪个外太空的法语啊！！！！！！！！！！！
跟吐痰一样一样一样的啊 有木有！！！！！！！！！
谁再跟老子讲法语是世界上最油煤的语言 老子一口浓痰咸你啊！！！！！！！！！！
！！！！！
法国人数数真是极品啊！！！！！！！！
76不念七十六啊！！！！！！！！！！
念六十加十六啊！！！！！！！！！！
96不念九十六啊！！！！！！！！！
念四个二十加十六啊！！！！！！！！！！！！！
法国人数学好得不得了 有木有！！！！！！！！！
一百以内加减法老子不用计算器直接念出来了啊 有木有！！！！！！！！！！！！！！
电话号码两个两个念啊！！！！！！！！！！！！
176988472怎么念！！！... 阅读全帖 |
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M****M
发帖数: 1445 | 35 德语
劳资上了近一年德语课！！！！！！
于是踏上了尼玛不归路啊！！！！！！！
谁给劳资讲德语是世界上最严谨的语言啊！！！！！！
尼玛的!!哪个星云的德语啊！！！！！！
跟吐屎一样一样一样的啊（发ö的时候）！！！！有木有有木有！！！！
谁再给劳资提德语是世界上最严谨的语言,劳资一口盐汽水喷死你啊！！！！！！！
德国人数数真是极品啊！！！！！！
八十九不念八十九啊！！！！！！！
念九 和八十啊！！！！！有木有！！！！！！！
尼玛怎么是反的啊！！！！！！！
德国人数学好得不得了啊！！！！
加减乘除倒算如流啊！！！！！！！
67254不念六万七千二百五十四啊！！！！！！
念七和六十个千两个百四和五个十啊！！！！！！！
写出来尼玛是siebenundsechzigtausendzweihundertvierundfünfzig！！！！！
四十八个字母啊！！！！！尼玛不嫌长啊！！！！！！
尼玛还没标点符号和空格啊！！！！！
这肿么认啊？？？？坑死爹啊！！！！！！
等你认出来,尼玛一首忐忑已经唱完了呀完了呀！！！！！！
就是尼玛甩葱歌也唱完了呀！！！！！！
所有名词都分男，女和不男不女啊！... 阅读全帖 |
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s*******e
发帖数: 515 | 36 谢谢Minsco理解！
也谢谢5，6楼的好心安全提醒。 偶天天在cleanroom里倒腾各种气体乃至LN2, LHe，这
点常识还是有的，见谅。
因为早上事情紧急求助，打字没过大脑，按小时候习惯叫成氢气球了。 发完贴本想改
成He的，但一想大家应该能理解什么意思，所以偷懒没改。表达疏忽，希望其它读贴的
小伙伴们
千万不要去充氢气（似乎除了自己在实验室里，也没有其它地方可以充H2）。
最后在Party City充的He，一刀一个。有小tank卖，$29.99可以充9''45-50（11'' 30).
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p*******p
发帖数: 13670 | 37 LHE...., 汗,打错了, 感觉基本有90%把握啊,可是总是不甘心,宁可多花1个bet去看看
对方到底是啥牌,看来是个坏习惯了 |
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c**********l
发帖数: 606 | 38 三十这样的应该算是很特殊了. 我们小鱼们一般从NL25或0.5/1 LHE开始. 未必是输不
起, 高了很可能付了学费没学到啥. 如果你经验很少,那么从NL5 或NL10开始也没什么
不可以的. FTP NL25以下 7%RAKE, 不太好(很不好). PS一率5%, 以前NANO都是免费的. |
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c**********o
发帖数: 213 | 39 lol, 10 mixed game, what are they?
LHE,NLHE,PLO,LO8,stud,stud8,razz,2-7 tri draw,5 card draw,badugi?
out
will get my ass handed to me if i go any higher than the 1-2c game. |
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G********r
发帖数: 666 | 40 if it is a 10-20 LHE, snap call, unless raiser's open range is AA-QQ ONLY,
which is rare, to say the least... |
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T********n
发帖数: 528 | 41 20/40 NL doesn't happen that often at Commerce. And it's becoming more of a
'vulture' game these days where players arrange to start at the same time
and once fish busts everyone leaves at the same time. The only exception is
during LAPC or Commerce tournaments where more money/players are gathered,
even then, these days the half PLO half NL games is taking over as the big
unlimited game while there are still white chip games for mixed/LHE.
Part of the reason is the recent economy recession. ... 阅读全帖 |
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T********n
发帖数: 528 | 42 I wasn't disagreeing with you in the first place. I was just expanding on
some more explanations on differences between LHE and NL as it relates to
variance.
Regarding your disagreement in what I said about 'winning' 2-5 players and
how it's not uncommon for some of them to just rely on preflop/on-the-flop..
. I should probably qualify that with "breakeven/small winners" versus "big
winners". Bigger winners have a more complete arsenal. Then again, bigger
winners don't typically stay at the 2... 阅读全帖 |
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T********n
发帖数: 528 | 43 Been playing pretty actively again - ~3 times/week. Generally running bad
so results somewhat lackluster. Only saving grace last Friday 40/80 LHE two
orbits before leaving had AA vs KK vs QQ twice, and both times AA held up
in heavy action pots. Yay~ |
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T********n
发帖数: 528 | 44 前天才抱怨generally running bad, 昨天去打就run good了. :)
有一手和大家分享.为了有没有打对后来想了好几分钟.
8 handed 20/40 LHE at small card room, lots of history between regulars
V1:UTG, expert player, modern day ring game TAG (i.e., much looser than
traditional TAG, but not LAG)
V2: CO, 鱼,不是那种donate鱼是认为自己打的不错的鱼. Very loose pre, takes a
lot of weird lines post flop
Hero: BTN, 鱼(?)
Preflop: V1 open raise, V2 CC, Hero has AQo OTB and 3B, V1/V2 both call.
[I think AQo is ahead of a modern day tag's open range UTG 8 handed, once
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T********n
发帖数: 528 | 45 I talked with another LHE expert today during a break from work, and he
highly advocated raising the turn if anything 'to leave yourself heads up
against the fish', and with ~7 big bets in the pot when it gets to V1 on the
turn if he did have a gunshot he's not making a big enough mistake calling
there than the luxury of being HU with fish.
I would say if I didn't raise turn on the river given the way it played out
I wouldn't want to raise river because my raise multi way shows so much more
stre... 阅读全帖 |
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T********n
发帖数: 528 | 47
hold
不客气不客气，我非常乐意给意见。不一定永远是对的。越多人讨论一般越容易从理论
上找出答案。poker好玩的地方就是合逻辑又dynamic，而根据不同的情况不同的line会
net higher or lower EV。我只是比大部分同学们早个好几年开始打。我个人把poker
看成a game with an endless cycle of decision making, and better decision
leads to a higher score, and in this game, the score is money. [Eventually
it becomes also psychology and metagame, but that's far far down the road]
所以这其实就是你第二个问题的答案。Allow me to explain. 虽然你可以从数据和数
学来看你是不是beat a particular limit/game,可是现实上这不是那么容易答出来的
。 If you are playing online, w... 阅读全帖 |
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 48 very nice post! this is prolly one of the best post ao far this year. Thanks for sharing your insightful poker wisdom and all the contribution to this community, bro!
poker
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 49 agree. LH's swing is definately bigger than NL. Back the time that I played
most live game, I met a poker pro from LA. We were playing no cap 2-5 NL a
lot at same table. He said he mainly played 60-120 LH or up in commerce .
BTw,really missed these no cap 2-5 game. YOu can see 3k+ stack on the
table very often back then.
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b*****t
发帖数: 52 | 50 多谢谭老师指点!!受益良多!!我会不断把打牌中的问题找出来向您请教.希望能不断提
高.
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