P*****t
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a*******4
发帖数: 333 | |
r****1
发帖数: 907 | 3 那些拍广告的SB是不是ABC？舔白人主子的屁眼好起劲 |
b*****d
发帖数: 61690 | 4 美国政府。同时显示美国人对中国的恐惧。
【在 a*******4 的大作中提到】
: 我的天，是bash中国人还是美国政府啊
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P*****t
发帖数: 4978 | 5 美国政府呗，中国人不过是躺着中枪而已。最后那一块简直是经典的好莱坞坏蛋的桥段。
【在 a*******4 的大作中提到】
: 我的天，是bash中国人还是美国政府啊
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l*********1
发帖数: 2971 | 6 both.恐中和美国现政府的花钱如流水的财政政策。
【在 a*******4 的大作中提到】
: 我的天，是bash中国人还是美国政府啊
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r****1
发帖数: 907 | 7 中国人在广告中的形象：自大，冷血，反美
段。
【在 P*****t 的大作中提到】
: 美国政府呗，中国人不过是躺着中枪而已。最后那一块简直是经典的好莱坞坏蛋的桥段。
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J*********r
发帖数: 5921 | |
P*****t
发帖数: 4978 | 9 最起码不说广东话了，不过也从一个侧面说明有大陆人为了钱愿意出来卖了。
【在 J*********r 的大作中提到】
: 台下的很多学生貌似韩国人。
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w*a
发帖数: 573 | |
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r****1
发帖数: 907 | 11 可能是台巴子
【在 P*****t 的大作中提到】
: 最起码不说广东话了，不过也从一个侧面说明有大陆人为了钱愿意出来卖了。
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A*******e
发帖数: 12486 | 12 这广告不错，说得很有可取之处
【在 P*****t 的大作中提到】
: Fear mongering?
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e***s
发帖数: 1188 | 13 呵呵，宣传做得不错，知道生于忧患死于安乐
实际上好莱坞就是行使的美国宣传部门的工作，当然也越来越程式化了
历史上的帝国都是外向型，皆因为傲慢+穷兵黩武而衰败，美国如果真的收缩，开始内
省的话，未必会衰落
段。
【在 P*****t 的大作中提到】
: 美国政府呗，中国人不过是躺着中枪而已。最后那一块简直是经典的好莱坞坏蛋的桥段。
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X*****u
发帖数: 1780 | |
s***q
发帖数: 10585 | 15 我觉得这个广告很好
是CNN所有新闻中反华程度最轻的
除了教授最后的笑的皱纹非常WS之外，其它都还可以
【在 P*****t 的大作中提到】
: Fear mongering?
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x*****u
发帖数: 6559 | 16
Citizens Against Government Waste (CAGW) is 501(c)(3) non-profit
organization in the United States.CAGW has been criticized for its links to
the tobacco industry and to lobbyists including Jack Abramoff.
hroughout its history, CAGW has been accused of fronting lobbying efforts of
corporations to give them the appearance of "grassroots" support.[16] In
part, this is because CAGW has accepted donations from Phillip Morris, the
Olin Foundation, the Bradley Foundation, Microsoft, Merrill Lynch, and Exxon
-Mobil.
According to the St. Petersburg Times in 2006, the Pig Book has been used to
benefit corporate donors, specifically health clubs who donated to CAGW.
The Pig Book listed federal grants to YMCAs who compete with those health
clubs as waste. CAGW's president countered that "The Ys are there because
they qualify as pork. Period."[16]
A Senate Finance Committee investigating ties between CAGW and other non-
profits and Jack Abramoff in 2006 stated in a report that the non-profits: '
probably violated their tax-exempt status "by laundering payments and then
disbursing funds at Mr. Abramoff's direction; taking payments in exchange
for writing newspaper columns or press releases that put Mr. Abramoff's
clients in a favorable light; introducing Mr. Abramoff's clients to
government officials in exchange for payment; and agreeing to act as a front
organization for congressional trips paid for by Mr. Abramoff's clients."'[
17]
In 2007, CAGW supported a bill that would limit damages resulting from
malpractice lawsuits.[18] Many consumer watchdog groups opposed the bill.[19]
In 2009, CAGW has been lobbying against the F136 alternate engine for the F-
35 JSF made by GE/Rolls Royce and there are significant indications that
this effort has been funded by Pratt & Whitney, which manufactures the F135
engine for the JSF, and is in direct competition for orders.[20]
【在 P*****t 的大作中提到】
: Fear mongering?
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x*********g
发帖数: 11508 | 17 看看这个观众评论，很有意思啊：如果2030年中国是最强大的国家，其实这个教授指责
的那几条，中国都比美国更厉害，也就是说，这几条正好是中国成功的因素。
#
MaTrIx734
13 minutes ago 6
Excellent theatrics; illogical politics.
If, as the film suggests, China leads the world in 2030, then this professor
would be incompetent:
(1) China approved $586 billion in stimulus during the same recession, which
rivals the ARRA when tax cuts are excluded
(2) China enacted healthcare reforms during the same period, which pay a
much higher percentage of costs than the PPACA
(3) China's gov't has state-owned monopolies that span entire industries, a
concept inconceivable to most Americans |
x*********g
发帖数: 11508 | 18 观众不买帐，把矛头指向美国的精英集团。美国还真是有明白人啊。
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JohnWroclaw
1 hour ago
@rpancho well, the govt system will not reform itself. The elites have
created a system that insures that change will not come unless they
benefit from that change. That is why we still drive oil based cars, and no
real innovations that use the natural resources that are capable of supply
the entire planet with enough energy, food and housing for next to nothing.
The regulations stop this from happening if it does not fix into their
controlled box.
It has to come from the people. |
x*********g
发帖数: 11508 | 19 这个直接把矛头指向资本主义和政府对资本的无所作为（也就是小政府）。
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ghormax
1 hour ago
@DrLarsBorgFrolander actually America is being destroyed by reckless
capitalism without the necessary controls. It was Wall Street and the
banking industry that drove America down. For instance, through incredible
loaning practices. This has absolutely nothing to do with "socialism" of
which America still has very little. The lack of clear and enforceable rules
, the weakness of central government are to blame for the mess. But
perhaps it is destiny for all great powers to fail eventually? |
x*********g
发帖数: 11508 | 20 有人说，中国赢了，意思就是共产主义赢了，呵呵。
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kurttube
1 hour ago
So I guess the lesson of this ad is COMMUNISM wins out? What stupid
fear-mongers. |
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x*********g
发帖数: 11508 | 21 #
Asiasfinest007
1 hour ago
@justinf42
lol what kind of historical context do you expect from these people(teaparty
) who have slogans/placards saying "We do not need communist Czars!"
Little do these folks know that the Communists overthrew the Czars who&#
65279; were AGAINST communism. lol. The ignorance prevalent in the teaparty
movement ignorance is beyond belief!
lol but then again, if they even had an iota of reasoning power, they would
not be demanding things/stuff which would only hurt them in the long run. |
x*********g
发帖数: 11508 | 22 有人说了，战争才是英国和罗马失败的原因。而美国正在经历同样的事情。
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ocmozfan
1 hour ago
Something failed to be mentioned here is the TRILLIONS spent in wars
. There is a connection to the fall of the British and Roman empires. And we
can see that same connection with the what is going on now in the States.
How is this huge point not mentioned? |
x*********g
发帖数: 11508 | 23 美国人的自信心很受打击啊。
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soco13466
2 hours ago 3
People, don't deny that the Chinese have every reason to laugh at us. One of
our "economists" spoke recently to a Chinese university audience. they
laughed at him. They see us as fools, and have good reason to. We
have lost the respect of the world at large, especially since we ended up
with Obama. |
l***i
发帖数: 956 | 24 别贴了，外国上网的普遍素质低
of
【在 x*********g 的大作中提到】
: 美国人的自信心很受打击啊。
: #
: soco13466
: 2 hours ago 3
: People, don't deny that the Chinese have every reason to laugh at us. One of
: our "economists" spoke recently to a Chinese university audience. they
: laughed at him. They see us as fools, and have good reason to. We
: have lost the respect of the world at large, especially since we ended up
: with Obama.
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x*********g
发帖数: 11508 | 25 这个也很有意思，说中国就是通过政府开支刺激经济来度过这次经济危机的。正好是短
片里面指责的这些内容，呵呵。
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kpl1986
2 hours ago
Um... One problem: China has weathered this recession with
substantial government spending to stimulate their economy. Nice try, but
this is full of inaccurate implications.
【在 l***i 的大作中提到】
: 别贴了，外国上网的普遍素质低
:
: of
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x*********g
发帖数: 11508 | 26 其实中国现在已经不是美国最大的外债持有国了。日本已经超过中国居第一，中国退居
第二。
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DrLarsBorgFrolander
2 hours ago
@rpancho Unfortunately, in a currency crisis, i.e. hyperinflation, the rich
DO get richer, the poor do become poorer and the middle class shrinks. If
the course of the U.S. isn't drastically altered, soon the only
buyers of U.S. treasuries will be the FED, we'll most likely lose reserve
currency status, and barring any truly GROUNDBREAKING innovation, this sad
story could very well play out. |
x*********g
发帖数: 11508 | 27 这一个是说汉朝的。
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koreandemocrat
3 hours ago
He forgot the fall of the Han Empire. Woops! |
x*********g
发帖数: 11508 | 28 如果真的让中国教授讲“为什么强大的国家都会走向灭亡呢”，举出来的例子应该是古埃及，古巴比伦，古印度，罗马帝国，奥斯曼帝国，蒙古帝国，印加帝国，英帝国，苏联等等，当然更加会讲自己的夏商周秦汉晋隋唐宋元明清。
2030年美国灭亡不了。 |
l*****i
发帖数: 20533 | |
h*******9
发帖数: 1399 | |
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P*****t
发帖数: 4978 | 31 我的题目可能有误解，是一个右派组织在cnn上做的广告，cnn不过播出罢了。
【在 s***q 的大作中提到】
: 我觉得这个广告很好
: 是CNN所有新闻中反华程度最轻的
: 除了教授最后的笑的皱纹非常WS之外，其它都还可以
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p********6
发帖数: 1802 | 32 应该是马华
【在 r****1 的大作中提到】
: 可能是台巴子
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m**********n
发帖数: 27535 | 33 某些台巴子仇华的厉害
【在 p********6 的大作中提到】
: 应该是马华
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a****l
发帖数: 8211 | 34 this is so unfortunately reasonable...
of
【在 x*********g 的大作中提到】
: 美国人的自信心很受打击啊。
: #
: soco13466
: 2 hours ago 3
: People, don't deny that the Chinese have every reason to laugh at us. One of
: our "economists" spoke recently to a Chinese university audience. they
: laughed at him. They see us as fools, and have good reason to. We
: have lost the respect of the world at large, especially since we ended up
: with Obama.
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e***s
发帖数: 1188 | 35 不要前怕狼后怕虎
中国越强大，我们越安全
美国如果真要开历史倒车，只有衰落得更快
【在 h*******9 的大作中提到】
: 这种东西很危险，特别是对于在美国的华人。
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x*********g
发帖数: 11508 | 36 热
professor
which
【在 x*********g 的大作中提到】
: 看看这个观众评论，很有意思啊：如果2030年中国是最强大的国家，其实这个教授指责
: 的那几条，中国都比美国更厉害，也就是说，这几条正好是中国成功的因素。
: #
: MaTrIx734
: 13 minutes ago 6
: Excellent theatrics; illogical politics.
: If, as the film suggests, China leads the world in 2030, then this professor
: would be incompetent:
: (1) China approved $586 billion in stimulus during the same recession, which
: rivals the ARRA when tax cuts are excluded
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s*******n
发帖数: 4605 | 37 这个说的有道理。他最后一句“强大的国家最终都逃不过衰落的命运”其实不太对，强
大且有智慧支撑其与自然和谐共存的国家就能保持强盛。外张型的强国最后都必然没落。
rules
But
【在 x*********g 的大作中提到】
: 这个直接把矛头指向资本主义和政府对资本的无所作为（也就是小政府）。
: #
: ghormax
: 1 hour ago
: @DrLarsBorgFrolander actually America is being destroyed by reckless
: capitalism without the necessary controls. It was Wall Street and the
: banking industry that drove America down. For instance, through incredible
: loaning practices. This has absolutely nothing to do with "socialism" of
: which America still has very little. The lack of clear and enforceable rules
: , the weakness of central government are to blame for the mess. But
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J********a
发帖数: 5208 | 38 很好，你说的那个国家在哪个星球？
落。
【在 s*******n 的大作中提到】
: 这个说的有道理。他最后一句“强大的国家最终都逃不过衰落的命运”其实不太对，强
: 大且有智慧支撑其与自然和谐共存的国家就能保持强盛。外张型的强国最后都必然没落。
:
: rules
: But
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x*********g
发帖数: 11508 | 39 好像到目前为止，还没有哪个强大的国家证明自己能够长久保持强盛不衰落的。
落。
【在 s*******n 的大作中提到】
: 这个说的有道理。他最后一句“强大的国家最终都逃不过衰落的命运”其实不太对，强
: 大且有智慧支撑其与自然和谐共存的国家就能保持强盛。外张型的强国最后都必然没落。
:
: rules
: But
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