j*****7
发帖数: 10575 | 1 1
这事以后，耶稣渡过加利利海，就是提比哩亚海。
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有许多人，因为看见他在病人身上所行的神迹，就跟随他。
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耶稣上了山，和门徒一同坐在那里。
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那时犹太人的逾越节近了。
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耶稣举目看见许多人来，就对腓力说，我们从哪里买饼叫这些人吃呢？
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他说这话，是要试验腓力。他自己原知道要怎样行。
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腓力回答说，就是二十两银子的饼，叫他们各人吃一点，也是不够的。
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有一个门徒，就是西门彼得的兄弟安得烈，对耶稣说，
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在这里有一个孩童，带着五个大麦饼，两条鱼。只是分给这许多人，还算什么呢？
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耶稣说，你们叫众人坐下。原来那地方的草多，众人就坐下。数目约有五千。
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耶稣拿起饼来，祝谢了，就分给那坐着的人。分鱼也是这样，都随着他们所要的。
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他们吃饱了，耶稣对门徒说，把剩下的零碎，收拾起来，免得有糟蹋的。
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他们便将那五个大麦饼的零碎，就是众人吃了剩下的，收拾起来，装满了十二个篮子。
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众人看见耶稣所行的神迹。就说，这真是那要到世间来的先知。
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耶稣既知道众人要来强逼他作王，就独自又退到山上去了。
对于两个五饼二鱼故事的描写，四本福音书各有侧重，而只有约翰福音的记载，最为揭
露人性的丑恶。
鉴于这个故事耳熟能详，就不多说了
耶稣出于怜悯，丰丰富富供应人的需要，并且有余
而最后一节是故事高潮的引子
耶稣既知道众人要来强逼他作王，就独自又退到山上去了。 | l**********t
发帖数: 5754 | 2 thanks for sharing.
John Calvin's commentary:
"
15. To make him a king.
When those men intended to give to Christ the title and honor of king,
there was some ground for what they did. But they erred egregiously in
taking upon themselves the liberty of making a king; for Scripture ascribes
this as peculiar to God alone, as it is said,
I have appointed my king on my holy hill of Zion,
(Psalm 2:6.)
Again, what sort of kingdom do they contrive for him? An earthly one, which
is utterly inconsistent with his person. Hence let us learn how dangerous it
is, in the things of God, to neglect His word, and to contrive anything of
our own opinion; for there is nothing which the foolish subtlety of our
understanding does not corrupt. And what avails the pretense of zeal, when
by our disorderly worship we offer a greater insult to God than if a person
were expressly and deliberately to make an attack on his glory?
We know how furious were the efforts of adversaries to extinguish the glory
of Christ. That violence, indeed, reached its extreme point when he was
crucified. But by means of his crucifixion salvation was obtained for the
world, and Christ himself obtained a splendid triumph over death and Satan.
If he had permitted himself to be now made a king, his spiritual kingdom
would have been ruined, the Gospel would have been stamped with everlasting
infamy, and the hope of salvation would have been utterly destroyed. Modes
of worship regulated according to our own fancy, and honors rashly contrived
by men, have no other advantage than this, that they rob God of his true
honor, and pour upon him nothing but reproach.
And take him by force. We must also observe the phrase, take by force They
wished to take Christ by force, the Evangelist says; that is, with impetuous
violence they wished to make him a king, though against his will. If we
desire, therefore, that he should approve of the honor which we confer upon
him, we ought always to consider what he requires. And, indeed, they who
venture to offer to God honors invented by themselves are chargeable with
using some sort of force and violence towards him; for obedience is the
foundation of true worship. Let us also learn from it with what reverence we
ought to abide by the pure and simple word of God; for as soon as we turn
aside in the smallest degree, the truth is poisoned by our leaven, so that
it is no longer like itself. They learned from the word of God that he who
was promised to be the Redeemer would be a king; but out of their own head
they contrive an earthly kingdom, and they assign to him a kingdom contrary
to the word of God. Thus, whenever we mix up our own opinions with the word
of God, faith degenerates into frivolous conjectures. Let believers,
therefore, cultivate habitual modesty, lest Satan hurry them into an ardor
of inconsiderate and rash zeal, so that, like the Giants, they shall rush
violently against God, who is never worshipped aright but when we receive
him as he presents himself to us.
It is astonishing that five thousand men should have been seized with such
daring presumption, that they did not hesitate, by making a new king, to
provoke against themselves Pilate’s army and the vast power of the Roman
empire; and it is certain that they would never have gone so far, if they
had not, relying on the predictions of the Prophets, hoped that God would be
on their side, and, consequently, that they would overcome. But still they
went wrong in contriving a kingdom of which the Prophets had never spoken.
So far are they from having the hand of God favorable to aid their
undertaking that, on the contrary, Christ withdraws. That was also the
reason why wretched men under Popery wandered so long in gross darkness —
while God was, as it were, absent — because they had dared to pollute the
whole of his worship by their foolish inventions.
"
【在 j*****7 的大作中提到】
: 1
: 这事以后，耶稣渡过加利利海，就是提比哩亚海。
: 2
: 有许多人，因为看见他在病人身上所行的神迹，就跟随他。
: 3
: 耶稣上了山，和门徒一同坐在那里。
: 4
: 那时犹太人的逾越节近了。
: 5
: 耶稣举目看见许多人来，就对腓力说，我们从哪里买饼叫这些人吃呢？
| w*******e
发帖数: 6802 | 3 谢谢分析。
之前我主要看到的都是五饼二鱼的故事，
没有特别注意到15节里面“强逼为王”的含义。
学习了。
【在 j*****7 的大作中提到】
: 1
: 这事以后，耶稣渡过加利利海，就是提比哩亚海。
: 2
: 有许多人，因为看见他在病人身上所行的神迹，就跟随他。
: 3
: 耶稣上了山，和门徒一同坐在那里。
: 4
: 那时犹太人的逾越节近了。
: 5
: 耶稣举目看见许多人来，就对腓力说，我们从哪里买饼叫这些人吃呢？
| w*******e
发帖数: 6802 | 4 这2段分析得很透彻。学习了。
借着弟兄的分享，我也顺便能读一下英文原版的神学文章。真好，谢谢分享。：）
Again, what sort of kingdom do they contrive for him? An earthly one, which
is utterly inconsistent with his person. Hence let us learn how dangerous it
is, in the things of God, to neglect His word, and to contrive anything of
our own opinion; for there is nothing which the foolish subtlety of our
understanding does not corrupt. And what avails the pretense of zeal, when
by our disorderly worship we offer a greater insult to God than if a person
were expressly and deliberately to make an attack on his glory?
We know how furious were the efforts of adversaries to extinguish the glory
of Christ. That violence, indeed, reached its extreme point when he was
crucified. But by means of his crucifixion salvation was obtained for the
world, and Christ himself obtained a splendid triumph over death and Satan.
If he had permitted himself to be now made a king, his spiritual kingdom
would have been ruined, the Gospel would have been stamped with everlasting
infamy, and the hope of salvation would have been utterly destroyed. Modes
of worship regulated according to our own fancy, and honors rashly contrived
by men, have no other advantage than this, that they rob God of his true
honor, and pour upon him nothing but reproach.
【在 l**********t 的大作中提到】
: thanks for sharing.
:
: John Calvin's commentary:
: "
: 15. To make him a king.
: When those men intended to give to Christ the title and honor of king,
: there was some ground for what they did. But they erred egregiously in
: taking upon themselves the liberty of making a king; for Scripture ascribes
: this as peculiar to God alone, as it is said,
: I have appointed my king on my holy hill of Zion,
| I***b
发帖数: 209 | 5 圣经上还有一段人要强迫神为他们立王的事，是在撒母尔记上记载。立王的目的就是要
象外邦人一样，有王管理他们，好为他们争战。神对撒母尔说，他们不是厌弃你，他们
是厌弃我。
耶稣生下来就是要作以色列的王，为什么犹太人要逼他作王时他就退了？因为耶稣不是
来作他们争战的王。耶稣是要召回神的儿女，作他们心里的王。
人在信神的时候，都在考虑有什么样的好处给自己。所以很多人要拉大旗、做虎皮，以
达到自己的目的。孰不知真正的好处在神那里，以神为王好处自然在神里面。拉神为王
反是背道而驰。
【在 w*******e 的大作中提到】
: 谢谢分析。
: 之前我主要看到的都是五饼二鱼的故事，
: 没有特别注意到15节里面“强逼为王”的含义。
: 学习了。
| w*******e
发帖数: 6802 | 6 谢谢分享。 ：）
【在 I***b 的大作中提到】
: 圣经上还有一段人要强迫神为他们立王的事，是在撒母尔记上记载。立王的目的就是要
: 象外邦人一样，有王管理他们，好为他们争战。神对撒母尔说，他们不是厌弃你，他们
: 是厌弃我。
: 耶稣生下来就是要作以色列的王，为什么犹太人要逼他作王时他就退了？因为耶稣不是
: 来作他们争战的王。耶稣是要召回神的儿女，作他们心里的王。
: 人在信神的时候，都在考虑有什么样的好处给自己。所以很多人要拉大旗、做虎皮，以
: 达到自己的目的。孰不知真正的好处在神那里，以神为王好处自然在神里面。拉神为王
: 反是背道而驰。
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