j**********1
发帖数: 73 | 1 About my performance. I've just joined this company for 4 months. By now,
have finished four projects, including building out a new site for the
company. I am doing network security work. This is tough place. Everybody in
the team, including the Manager, fighted between each other. Team leader
complained the manager to HR.....
Could someone advise what I should do now? Sign the paperwork or not? Go to
HR to explain furhter?
Thanks a lot |
l******e
发帖数: 12192 | 2 what does the warning complain?
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【在 j**********1 的大作中提到】
: About my performance. I've just joined this company for 4 months. By now,
: have finished four projects, including building out a new site for the
: company. I am doing network security work. This is tough place. Everybody in
: the team, including the Manager, fighted between each other. Team leader
: complained the manager to HR.....
: Could someone advise what I should do now? Sign the paperwork or not? Go to
: HR to explain furhter?
: Thanks a lot
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t**********6
发帖数: 565 | 3 this is the 1st official step they are getting rid of you.
find another job ASAP..
good luck!
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【在 j**********1 的大作中提到】
: About my performance. I've just joined this company for 4 months. By now,
: have finished four projects, including building out a new site for the
: company. I am doing network security work. This is tough place. Everybody in
: the team, including the Manager, fighted between each other. Team leader
: complained the manager to HR.....
: Could someone advise what I should do now? Sign the paperwork or not? Go to
: HR to explain furhter?
: Thanks a lot
|
j**********1
发帖数: 73 | 4 Four things:
1. Not reliable. Complain me didn't delay to join the phone conferece for
half an hour this sunday early morning at 12:30am.
2. Did't corporate with a sub-manager the manager assinged to manager me, an
india son of bitch.
3 Multitasking. I joined this company 4 months ago. and have finished 4
projects by now. Still can't let him satisfied.
4. Didn't maintain good relationship with networking group. When I was
working on building the new site for the company, the networking group
delayed to deliver the networking connectivity for 4 weeks. I pushed them to
deliver. and they are not happy. My manager asked me to finish the project
in 2 weeks, that is supposed to be finished in one and half month. And this
happened after I joined the company for one month.
【在 l******e 的大作中提到】
: what does the warning complain?
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j**********1
发帖数: 73 | 5 I am not worry about losing this ballshit job. I am worried about they fire
instead of layoff me. In that case, I will stuck at background check for
ever. right?
【在 t**********6 的大作中提到】
: this is the 1st official step they are getting rid of you.
: find another job ASAP..
: good luck!
:
: in
: to
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l******e
发帖数: 12192 | 6 快找工作吧
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to
【在 j**********1 的大作中提到】
: Four things:
: 1. Not reliable. Complain me didn't delay to join the phone conferece for
: half an hour this sunday early morning at 12:30am.
: 2. Did't corporate with a sub-manager the manager assinged to manager me, an
: india son of bitch.
: 3 Multitasking. I joined this company 4 months ago. and have finished 4
: projects by now. Still can't let him satisfied.
: 4. Didn't maintain good relationship with networking group. When I was
: working on building the new site for the company, the networking group
: delayed to deliver the networking connectivity for 4 weeks. I pushed them to
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F********r
发帖数: 407 | 7 You may have a 90-day window. Find a job and leave on your own term. |
t***y
发帖数: 741 | 8 HR will only indicate voluntarily termination (resignation) or involuntarily
(layoff or fire), and will not give any further specifics during a
background check, to avoid possible lawsuit. So you should be fine.
fire
【在 j**********1 的大作中提到】
: I am not worry about losing this ballshit job. I am worried about they fire
: instead of layoff me. In that case, I will stuck at background check for
: ever. right?
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o*******g
发帖数: 1300 | 9 Sunday 12:30 am ?!
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j**********1
发帖数: 73 | 10 Yes. Midnight hour. Nice company?!
【在 o*******g 的大作中提到】
: Sunday 12:30 am ?!
: an
: to
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u****s
发帖数: 2186 | 11 complain you didn't delay?
【在 j**********1 的大作中提到】
: Yes. Midnight hour. Nice company?!
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P*****a
发帖数: 2464 | 12 i guess he probably meant did not extend?
【在 u****s 的大作中提到】
: complain you didn't delay?
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j**********1
发帖数: 73 | 13 Sorry, typo complain I delay
【在 P*****a 的大作中提到】
: i guess he probably meant did not extend?
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s*******g
发帖数: 59 | 14 I feel for you. Agreed that they're in the process to get rid of you. While
looking for new jobs, i would fight back: collect all the evidences of
unfairness, discrimination, etc, and raise it back to HR. One or two counter
examples should be sufficient for your argument. Don't sign the warning.
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【在 j**********1 的大作中提到】
: Four things:
: 1. Not reliable. Complain me didn't delay to join the phone conferece for
: half an hour this sunday early morning at 12:30am.
: 2. Did't corporate with a sub-manager the manager assinged to manager me, an
: india son of bitch.
: 3 Multitasking. I joined this company 4 months ago. and have finished 4
: projects by now. Still can't let him satisfied.
: 4. Didn't maintain good relationship with networking group. When I was
: working on building the new site for the company, the networking group
: delayed to deliver the networking connectivity for 4 weeks. I pushed them to
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z****n
发帖数: 5870 | 15 从LZ的英文来看，有进步的空间。估计是很能干活，但是communication不够。
for
me, an
them to
【在 j**********1 的大作中提到】
: Four things:
: 1. Not reliable. Complain me didn't delay to join the phone conferece for
: half an hour this sunday early morning at 12:30am.
: 2. Did't corporate with a sub-manager the manager assinged to manager me, an
: india son of bitch.
: 3 Multitasking. I joined this company 4 months ago. and have finished 4
: projects by now. Still can't let him satisfied.
: 4. Didn't maintain good relationship with networking group. When I was
: working on building the new site for the company, the networking group
: delayed to deliver the networking connectivity for 4 weeks. I pushed them to
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j**********1
发帖数: 73 | 16 Thank you so much for everyone's advice and suggestion. I highly appreciate.
I also talked to my friend, who is a senior engineer and owns his own
consultant business. Also talked to my chinese colleague in this company.
They suggest me not to dispute with HR because that is useless and make the
situation worse. Now at least I can have about 2-3 months to find another
job. But if dispute, maybe they can find fault with me and fire me (instead
of lay off) immediately.
Would you advise me if I should sign the letter? Or I should dispute to HR.
BTW, my manager is senior here. He has deputy IT Head supporting him.
Thanks a lot
【在 z****n 的大作中提到】
: 从LZ的英文来看，有进步的空间。估计是很能干活，但是communication不够。
:
: for
: me, an
: them to
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U*********r
发帖数: 5610 | 17 你老板也没有挺你啊。
【在 j**********1 的大作中提到】
: Thank you so much for everyone's advice and suggestion. I highly appreciate.
: I also talked to my friend, who is a senior engineer and owns his own
: consultant business. Also talked to my chinese colleague in this company.
: They suggest me not to dispute with HR because that is useless and make the
: situation worse. Now at least I can have about 2-3 months to find another
: job. But if dispute, maybe they can find fault with me and fire me (instead
: of lay off) immediately.
: Would you advise me if I should sign the letter? Or I should dispute to HR.
: BTW, my manager is senior here. He has deputy IT Head supporting him.
: Thanks a lot
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b******n
发帖数: 4559 | 18 当然要据理力争了
是不是签字就表示自己认可那信上面的评述是准确的？
还是仅仅只是签字表示收到了？
把你上面解释的那几条，条理分明的列出来
简短的写一封回信解释
把相关email来往信件可以附上作证
还有老板给你交代的deadline和你实际的工作量、完成进度和时间都列举出来
让你几个有工作经验、语言专业的朋友帮忙修改一下
公司不会因为你写这个回复而对你采取措施的
这个很容易被人告上
以后再去其他部门要求配合，尽量写信，这样可以保留记录
并且把交代你干活的老板也cc在上面
开会delay半小时那个没有看懂你什么意思？
有个会议是周一凌晨0点半，你晚到了半个小时也没有通知大家？
appreciate.
the
instead
.
【在 j**********1 的大作中提到】
: Thank you so much for everyone's advice and suggestion. I highly appreciate.
: I also talked to my friend, who is a senior engineer and owns his own
: consultant business. Also talked to my chinese colleague in this company.
: They suggest me not to dispute with HR because that is useless and make the
: situation worse. Now at least I can have about 2-3 months to find another
: job. But if dispute, maybe they can find fault with me and fire me (instead
: of lay off) immediately.
: Would you advise me if I should sign the letter? Or I should dispute to HR.
: BTW, my manager is senior here. He has deputy IT Head supporting him.
: Thanks a lot
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b******n
发帖数: 4559 | 19 先别把HR当敌人
也许是有小人恶人先告状呢，HR偏听偏信
你把事情从自己的角度跟HR解释清楚先，把他们的回复态度都保留作证据（如果真的有
处理不公平，以后可以继续向上反映）
如果可能的话先跟你老板沟通一下，看他什么态度？
如果确实是有误会的话，可以解释的时候把老板也cc上给你作个证人吧
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【在 j**********1 的大作中提到】
: About my performance. I've just joined this company for 4 months. By now,
: have finished four projects, including building out a new site for the
: company. I am doing network security work. This is tough place. Everybody in
: the team, including the Manager, fighted between each other. Team leader
: complained the manager to HR.....
: Could someone advise what I should do now? Sign the paperwork or not? Go to
: HR to explain furhter?
: Thanks a lot
|
a*******t
发帖数: 867 | 20
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to
几个问题：
1. 这个警告是从HR来的还是自己老板那里来的？
2. 在这个警告前有没有口头的警告？
3.才4个月，有没有经历过例行的半年评估？如果有，评估如何？
这些信息可能有助于找到合适的对策。
【在 j**********1 的大作中提到】
: About my performance. I've just joined this company for 4 months. By now,
: have finished four projects, including building out a new site for the
: company. I am doing network security work. This is tough place. Everybody in
: the team, including the Manager, fighted between each other. Team leader
: complained the manager to HR.....
: Could someone advise what I should do now? Sign the paperwork or not? Go to
: HR to explain furhter?
: Thanks a lot
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j**********1
发帖数: 73 | 21 Thank you so much for advices.
This letter is from my manager, who assigned the Indian guy to manage me.
Before this issue, there is no any oral warning.
I didn't get any half-year evaluation. I entered this company in July 2010.
Signing this letter means I agreed and understood what the letter said.
After I entered this company, I found out that my manager is very tough and
the whole group messed up. Higher IT administration never thinks this group
works. Before I came in, one guy just left and one guy changed to another
group. My manager entered this group about one and half years ago after the
previous manager of this group got fired due to mess-up things in this group
. But my manager always yelled to everyone in this group. So about two
months ago, two senior guys (this group only has three members, two senior
guys and me) along with other group guys complained my manager to HR about
his altitude to his colleagues.
Sincerely I do have fault.
1. I delayed to log into the conference call scheduled at midnight hour for
half an hour.
2. Didn't follow up with the indian properly.
But in the complaint letter, at least two items listed are not true.
After the official meeting with my manager and the indian, I talked to my
manager one-to-one. He said this letter is not a procedure to kick out you,
but just wanted you to perform better. Whether or not you got kicked out
depends on him. If I improved my performance, he would keep me. He said that
very nicely. But I am not sure if this is his trick to convince me to sign
the letter and not to complain to HR.
So now I am not sure if I should talk to HR or just simply sign it.
【在 a*******t 的大作中提到】
:
: in
: to
: 几个问题：
: 1. 这个警告是从HR来的还是自己老板那里来的？
: 2. 在这个警告前有没有口头的警告？
: 3.才4个月，有没有经历过例行的半年评估？如果有，评估如何？
: 这些信息可能有助于找到合适的对策。
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m******8
发帖数: 2153 | 22 Seems that you should tell those two untrue items to HR (cc your supervisor)
. Maybe your supervisor, not you, will be fired, since all his/her group
members are complaining about him. Just do not sign anything untrue. Start
looking for new jobs at the same time! Clearly it's not a good place to stay
. |
l*****w
发帖数: 60 | 23 " Signing this letter means I agreed and understood what the letter said."
If this is the case, definitely do not sign the paper!!!
and
group
the
group
【在 j**********1 的大作中提到】
: Thank you so much for advices.
: This letter is from my manager, who assigned the Indian guy to manage me.
: Before this issue, there is no any oral warning.
: I didn't get any half-year evaluation. I entered this company in July 2010.
: Signing this letter means I agreed and understood what the letter said.
: After I entered this company, I found out that my manager is very tough and
: the whole group messed up. Higher IT administration never thinks this group
: works. Before I came in, one guy just left and one guy changed to another
: group. My manager entered this group about one and half years ago after the
: previous manager of this group got fired due to mess-up things in this group
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t*******s
发帖数: 16 | 24 Do NOT sign the paperwork. You should defend yourself with supporting
evidence instead.
No matter what happens, do NOT sign the complaint paperwork that your boss
initially submitted.
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【在 j**********1 的大作中提到】
: About my performance. I've just joined this company for 4 months. By now,
: have finished four projects, including building out a new site for the
: company. I am doing network security work. This is tough place. Everybody in
: the team, including the Manager, fighted between each other. Team leader
: complained the manager to HR.....
: Could someone advise what I should do now? Sign the paperwork or not? Go to
: HR to explain furhter?
: Thanks a lot
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f**********8
发帖数: 2276 | |
