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f*****d
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第四版一楼被删,倒置跟贴后不能冒上来,现在是第五版,大家踊跃贴新车。
如果你买了新车而且是非日车,请在此楼里贴个车照片,我会送你10个包子(即100伪
币),此贴永久有效,只要我还有包子就会给你,如果没有,我会在有的时候补给你。
***新车主在贴照片的同时,最好报一下新车的MSRP和税前的成交价,对后人很有帮助
。***
请不要在这楼里攻击谩骂,请版主版务自重、不要删贴。
第一版已被合集,详情可以看这里
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/Automobile/34366701.html
下面是新车车主的名单,祝贺祝贺!
*****************************************
时间 车型 车主ID
11/01/2013 2014 passat 18T eqianli
11/01/2013 2013 BMW X3 dukimu
11/01/2013 2013 Ford Focus xin... 阅读全帖
m***8
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来自主题: Automobile版 - FORD Escape 报价+求教
仅供参考:
2017 GMC Terrain (renewed lease, traded in 2015 gm terrain), lease 24 month,
$200/month, no down payment this time. (west coast) 不算税和其他费用.
p*******g
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来自主题: Automobile版 - FORD Escape 报价+求教
谢谢分享!感觉我这个价格太贵


: 仅供参考:

: 2017 GMC Terrain (renewed lease, traded in 2015 gm terrain), lease 24
month,

: $200/month, no down payment this time. (west coast) 不算税和其他费用.

M******e
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来自主题: Automobile版 - 买了一个特小众的车--- Ford Flex
如果那些数据有用,那你去慢慢研究好了。
如果你认为不是车辆原因,那就是开车人的原因喽?
Flex死亡率是5,Terrain是38。你的意思是:开Flex的都是小心翼翼的妇女老人,开
Terrain的很多是年轻冲动过分自信的莽汉,所以导致死亡率差别很大,其实两个车本
身的安全性是差不多的,是这个意思吗?
f*****h
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来自主题: Automobile版 - CX-5 GT VS. Equinox Premier 2.0T
terrain死亡的人里好多是不系安全带的 没研究过就不要来放屁

:equinox 安全性较差
:侧撞不如卡罗拉,无主动安全系统可选,他和它的马甲车terrain死亡率同级别第一高

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Avoid 那个车,不值得买。看看Cx-5, 2018 Equinox 和Terrain。改版后的terrain还
怪好看的。
z***s
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来自主题: Automobile版 - 求荐车 SUV
又关注了一下2018 GMC TERRAIN AWD SLE
报价$20,800,考虑拿不到loyalty的$1500,价钱是$21,300,貌似很超值啊。虽然没有
rogue sv的功能多。
http://www.alpinebuickgmc.com/VehicleDetails/new-2018-GMC-Terrain-AWD_SLE-Denver-CO/3082318753
m*****3
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来自主题: Automobile版 - 求荐车 SUV
1. 这是钓鱼价,你拿不到的
2. 你的算术水平堪忧
3. 你连小字都没看或者没看懂,人家滴乐说的明明白白 1-8 都是啥意思,看那个
offer disclosure


: 又关注了一下2018 GMC TERRAIN AWD SLE

: 报价$20,800,考虑拿不到loyalty的$1500,价钱是$21,300,貌似很超值啊
。虽然
没有

: rogue sv的功能多。

: http://www.alpinebuickgmc.com/VehicleDetails/new-2018-GMC-Terrain-AWD_SLE-Denver-CO/3082318753

b**e
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来自主题: Automobile版 - 美国牌子的小 SUV哪几款好?
terrain为啥销量不好。

:equinox,有9AT,18 terrain也可以看看
r********h
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来自主题: NextGeneration版 - attention: Sunscreens to avoid
Safer, Affordable Sunscreens:
Alba Botanica Sun: Mineral Sunscreen Fragrance Free, SPF 30
Alba Botanical Sun: Mineral Sunscreen Kids, SPF 30
Aubrey Organics Natural Sun Saving Face Sunscreen, SPF 15
All Terrain Aquasport Performance Sunscreen, SPF 30
All Terrain KidSport Sunscreen, SPF 30
BabyGanics Cover Up Baby Sunscreen for Face & Body, Fragrance Free, SPF 50+
Carribean Solutions Natural/Biodegradable SolGuard, SPF 25
Carribean Solutions Sol Kid Kare Natural Sunscreen, SPF 25
Earth's Best: Su... 阅读全帖
s*******c
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来自主题: NextGeneration版 - 请教伞车那种好啊,跪谢
I have both.......we have the pink dot ignite and navy jet......
unfortunately I owned the igngite first, so I was spoiled. But the jet is a
nice stroller and better than a lot I've seen.
The Ignite has much sturdier fabric overall and a more structured back to
the seat, there is actually a metal x behind the fabric,(which makes it more
flat back like your full size strollers) a inch wider seat base, almost 2
inch taller back of seat, and the locking front wheels for terrain.....it
has one paren... 阅读全帖
f********5
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我来推荐这个all terrain 牌子的防晒霜,直接喷雾,很清不油,防晒效果不错,这是
我能找到网上价格最低的, ewg 安全系数是3 (所有spray 的安全系数都要高,不安
全一些),它的不是 spray 的款,是 2/1,但是我们还是选择的喷雾的,方便多了,
amazon 上也有卖的。 california baby 和 badger 我们都用过, 抹不开,抹了之后象
个鬼,现在还有badger一管,没人用了。
http://www.vitacost.com/productResults.aspx?previousText=all+te
链接里有 kidsport spray 30
http://www.vitacost.com/productResults.aspx?previousText=all+te
我们用的是kidsport spray 30, ewg 的说法是 terrainsport 30 aquasport 30也
很好,我们这儿因为阳光强烈,所以我研究的是spf30 的,姐妹们对 spf15 感兴趣的
,可以
ewg 的网站上研究一下。
还有推荐这个牌子的 防... 阅读全帖
r********h
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Safer, Affordable Sunscreens:
http://breakingnews.ewg.org/2011sunscreen/best-sunscreens/best-
Alba Botanica Sun: Mineral Sunscreen Fragrance Free, SPF 30
Alba Botanical Sun: Mineral Sunscreen Kids, SPF 30
Aubrey Organics Natural Sun Saving Face Sunscreen, SPF 15
All Terrain Aquasport Performance Sunscreen, SPF 30
All Terrain KidSport Sunscreen, SPF 30
BabyGanics Cover Up Baby Sunscreen for Face & Body, Fragrance Free, SPF 50+
Carribean Solutions Natural/Biodegradable SolGuard, SPF 25
Carribean S... 阅读全帖
M*********8
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registereh (包包) 于 (Wed May 25 12:00:13 2011, 美东) 提到:
发信人: registereh (包包), 信区: NextGeneration
标 题: attention: Sunscreens to avoid
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed May 25 11:58:36 2011, 美东)
The 2011 products to avoid list contains some popular brands.
EWG's Sunscreens to Avoid:
Aveeno Active Naturals Hydrosport Sunblock Spray, SPF 85
Aveeno Sunblock Spray, Continuous Protection, SPF 70
Banana Boat Kids UltraMist Sunscreen, SPF 110
Banana Boat Kids UltraMist Sunscr... 阅读全帖
p********r
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来自主题: Colorado版 - 借人气求推荐雪场
Welcome, boarders.
Snowboard is ok in most Colorado resorts, although we really want a
snowboard-only resort where ski is not allowed. kaka.
However, some resorts' terrain is not necessarily snowboard-friendly. Catwalk
is very long or even uphill, making your transit from one peak to another
very tough.
The A51 terrain park at Keystone is on the top list, fun to play with the
kickers, hips and jibs.
There would be a lot power at Colorado in March, and a lot fallen skiers to
ollie over. HAHA.
s*****n
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记得以前老田给我做示范的时候讲过,滑mogul时双腿柔软如面条似的才是高手,说那样
才能最大限度地absorb terrain.反正我到现在也没搞明白怎样absorb terrain. 不是
他在忽悠我,就是你在BSO :)
f********y
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很明显是他在忽悠你啊.
举个简单生活中的例子说一下absorb terrain: 你上下楼梯的时候会有一个膝盖自动弯
曲去适应那个高差的变化,这就是很明显的absorb terrain,把这个应用到雪上就明白
了。
g****e
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Miami University最近在组织滑雪旅游活动。时间是明年2月1日到2月5日,地点是科罗
拉多的steamboat。有兴趣一同前往的校友请站内联系。
邮件原文:
Take a young alumni ski trip Feb. 1-5! Enjoy four nights in luxurious
mountainside lodging surrounded by some of the best beginner and expert
terrain in North America. Spend your days on the slopes or around town with
one of the many non-skier activities. Let your evenings be filled with many
of the Echo Tours events or arrange a night in the world famous Strawberry
Hot Springs.
Steamboat’s Mount Werner is the s... 阅读全帖
e*******r
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http://www.nps.gov/yose/parknews/pencasar2.htm
Search for Continues for Missing Hiker in Yosemite National Park
Search Efforts Scaled Back on Fifth Day of Search
The search continues in Yosemite National Park for missing hiker George
Penca, who was last seen at the top of Yosemite Falls on Friday, June 17,
2011. Due to the fact that the area has been thoroughly searched by
personnel and dogs, the terrain is rugged and steep, and no clues have been
found, search efforts are being scaled back.
Pen... 阅读全帖
c*******r
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beginner: snoqualmie
intermediate: stevens pass & baker
advanced - expert: crystal & stevens pass
crystal: pros: real snow, big mountain, plenty of expert terrain (high
campbell & northway, not to mention side and back country), easy to drive (
no mountain pass). cons: snow can be a bit icy and crudy compared to stevens
and baker, not very snowboarder friendly (advantage if you are a skier)
stevens: pros: very nice tree skiing on the back side, powdery snow. cons:
lacks long runs, especially exp... 阅读全帖
k********k
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http://www.radio-canada.ca/nouvelles/societe/2007/12/04/003-rec
Le français en déclin
Mise à jour le mardi 4 décembre 2007 à 15 h 43 HNE
Selon Statistique Canada, le français perd du terrain au Canada et le
chinois est restée en 2006 la langue maternelle du plus grand nombre de
nouveaux arrivants.
En 2006, la langue maternelle de 70,2 % des immigrants n'était ni le fran&
ccedil;ais ni l'anglais.
De ces immigrants, 18,6 % avaient l'un ou l'autre des dialectes chinois
comme langue ma... 阅读全帖
k********k
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http://www.radio-canada.ca/nouvelles/societe/2007/12/04/003-rec
Le français en déclin
Mise à jour le mardi 4 décembre 2007 à 15 h 43 HNE
Selon Statistique Canada, le français perd du terrain au Canada et le
chinois est restée en 2006 la langue maternelle du plus grand nombre de
nouveaux arrivants.
En 2006, la langue maternelle de 70,2 % des immigrants n'était ni le fran&
ccedil;ais ni l'anglais.
De ces immigrants, 18,6 % avaient l'un ou l'autre des dialectes chinois
comme langue ma... 阅读全帖
c*******r
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it depends on what terrains you ride and what your level is. my ride is a
compact ultegra x 12-27. that setup works very well for me on moderately
steep terrains.
c*******r
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来自主题: Cycling版 - 新手骑车上班,请指教
I recommend long wheel base as well, no toe overlap issues, more comfortable
riding position, and less twitchy. touring frames usually fit fat tires and
racks, which are important for commuting. Is your commute route all flat?
If so, I'd recommend a single speed, e.g. Surly Steamroller. I'm a big fan
of single speed/fixed gear so I may be biased. But for the same money, you
get much better quality out of a single speed.
Surly Long Haul trucker has a very good reputation in terms of quality and
d... 阅读全帖
f*******n
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来自主题: Fitness版 - Turbo Fire & Chalean Extreme Hybrid
这周主要是周末的接力,之前几天都是休息恢复为主。
8/21: 13.5 miles walking
早晨3点开始,和Leaville的一个勇士走了最后一个Leg。
8/22: Rest
8/23: CLX Ab Burner & Recharge
8/24: Power Yoga
8/25: Rest
8/26-8/27: Hood To Coast Relay, 20 miles of running
Leg #9: 7 miles Moderate
Long leg over relatively flat terrain.
Avg Pace: 8:55
Avg HR: 165, Max HR: 177 (?)
Splits: 8:46, 9:03, 9:14, 8:50, 8:52 8:54, 8:50
Leg #21: 5 miles Moderate
Flat, slightly downhill terrain, dusty and gravel.
Avg Pace: 8:35
Avg HR: 164, Max HR: 187 (?)
Splits: 8:43, 8:44,... 阅读全帖
f*********n
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - Tactical Movement While Shooting Pistol (ZZ)
在移动中射击技巧的文章:
http://www.handgunsmag.com/tactics_training/tactical_movement_111810/
......
As a general rule, your feet should be pointed in the direction you're
moving while your upper body turns in relation to the threat. The
obvious exception would be when you're required to take a quick step or
two laterally. In such a case, you would first take a large step with
the leg closest to the direction of movement followed by a smaller step
with your other leg.
When moving forward, step in a heel-to... 阅读全帖
f*******r
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - 最后还是上了FJ Cruiser
首先恭喜购车
1. 轮子毫无疑问是最基本也最重要的配置
17"的没问题,也可以考虑换16"的rim,一旦需要降气压行驶,调整范围稍大
不走泥地上all-terrain全地形胎就够了, 公路表现都很好
大路货有BFG all-terrain t/a ko(可做雪胎,超厚侧壁),Nitto terra grappler/toyo
open country at(非雪胎,驾驶性能更好)
我用265/75R16 BFG AT因为我跑雪地
2. FJ可选的shock太多了,原厂货包括bilstein都很一般,白菜货有OME,顶级货有
ICON, FOX, KING之类,还是要看具体需求,不用盲目升级
我就用bilstein的,没觉着多好也没觉着需要升级
3. FJ上大胎不但要lift还要切割车身金属,lift如不妥协其它方面性能要巨额投资,
比如更换coilover, upper control arm, sway bar relocate(2010之后的车身我还没
发现有完美解决方案,很多redneck就直接把sway bar拆了,高速危险性可想而知),
differential re-gea... 阅读全帖
n********r
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - The Poor Man’s Guide To Survival Gear
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/guest-post-poor-man%E2%80%99s-gui
(It has all the photos)
From Brandon Smith of Alt-Market
The Poor Man’s Guide To Survival Gear
Special Note: Obviously, an entire book could be written on this subject,
which is a task beyond the scope of this article. The purpose of the
following piece is to give those with financial difficulty a foothold on
prepping without added pain. It is meant to be a starting point, not a
compendium.
A friend of mine took note recently tha... 阅读全帖
s******y
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来自主题: Outdoors版 - Shuksan Fisher Chimneys
It will be a two-day climb. Bivy at the entrance of chimney on day 1. Up and
out on day 2, which will be a long day.
Requirement:
1. Excellent physical conditioning. If you are tired after climbing Hood S
Side, you are not in the proper condition for this climb.
2. Able to move up and down quickly on class 4 terrains unroped and low
5th class terrain with running belay. Chimney itself is class 4 and is about
1000 feet in elevation. Central gully of summit pyrimid is class 3/4 and is
about 600 fe
c*******r
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来自主题: Outdoors版 - Online avy training course
He is the author of the avy bible "How to stay alive in avalanche terrain"
http://www.amazon.com/Staying-Alive-Avalanche-Terrain-Tremper/dp/0898868343
f********t
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来自主题: Outdoors版 - A climber fell into crater of MSH
He didn't wear a helmet, the terrain is mixed rock and snow. Anway, it doesn
't look good.
Always wear helmet and carry your pack in dangerous terrain. Or better yet,
use pros while you are on the edge.

rain/
c*******r
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来自主题: Outdoors版 - 请问keen的徒步鞋好么?
one piece of advice regarding trail running: choose a pair of shoes with
minimum cushion so that you can feel the terrain better. too much cushion is
dangerous for you ankles on uneven terrains. I have a pair of NB 708, which
is really crappy. My other pair of trail shoes is Asics Kahana and I would
highly recommend.
c*******r
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来自主题: Outdoors版 - Accident @ red rock
Last season, I took 2 falls because of broken holds. Once TR and once on
lead. The one on TR was an easy 5.6 route and that is the first time I have
taken a fall on a 5.6. Second time was a 5.8 sport. I was nearing the
anchors, about 6-8 feet above the last bolt. It was a bit scary but
fotunately the terrain was vertical enough that I didn't hit anything.
I have broken a hold at Red Rocks, I think it was on the last pitch of Going
Nuts. Fortunately it was very easy terrain and I didn't fall even... 阅读全帖
m****g
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来自主题: Outdoors版 - 今年想去登山,诚征建议
好象很多人没有爬到longs顶.
class 3 , 绳子要用吗?
"class 3: Scrambling or un-roped climbing. You must use your hands most of
the time to hold the terrain or find your route. This may be caused by a
combination of steepness and extreme terrain (large rocks or steep snow).
Some Class 3 routes are better done with rope."
btw, 7月底 我们大概选择1-2个14ERS CLASS II.

午1
h******d
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我只找到这个, 但是还是看不太明白。
比如:
1.
142 privacy + 143 group codes, 这个是什么意思?怎么用呀。
2.
还有在山上看到有些老美用的那种可以有中转的是什么手台呀,
就是那种可以说:土豆土豆我是洋芋我是洋芋,请接白菜请接白菜,然后洋芋就可以直
接跟白菜讲话的那种。
3.
还有一般在南加州爬山一般多大距离的够用呢,22MILE,36mile.
俺的想法其实很简单,也就想万一有状况可以呼的到人来救命(这个最重要!!!!!
)。
兼求推荐。
谢谢!
VHF, UHF, CB, FRS GMRS Definitions
OK, just to try and break down the various names and what frequency they
broadcast at, this is by no means a technical paper just to give a quick
reference and the power that the different equipment is capable of. I w... 阅读全帖
c*******r
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来自主题: Outdoors版 - 严冬冬遇难经过
it also depends on how protectable the terrain is and how comfortable you
are. I have travelled on terrain where if I fell I would die but it was easy
enough that I didn't think I'd fall. But you can't predict where crevasses
are.
c*******r
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来自主题: Outdoors版 - 严冬冬遇难经过
it also depends on how protectable the terrain is and how comfortable you
are. I have travelled on terrain where if I fell I would die but it was easy
enough that I didn't think I'd fall. But you can't predict where crevasses
are.
l*******o
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Nose is different. That's very technical. Teton (5.5 route) is only
marginally technical. Most routes I climbed on Rainier are non-technical. (
People may disagree with me on the latter point, but to me if a route has no
technical section, it is not technical. Rescue may be technical, but
climbing isn't. Like rescue operation on class 3/4 terrain may be technical,
but class 3/4 terrain itself isn't.)
m****g
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滑雪大师LITO TEJADA在BACKCOUNTRY SKIING这本书说道:
“BC skiing --skiing away from ski areas, off the beaten track, far from
the crowd -- has much more in common with early skiing than with today's
prepackaged, high-priced versions of the sport. You don't need a lift
ticket or a trail pas to go bc skiing. You don't have to use a certain type
of skis or a particular technique. Simply skiing into the winter landscape,
away from prepared terrain, on your own or with friends.
so with bc skiing. It is not syno... 阅读全帖
s*******k
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我早就不跑treadmill了,一跑就不舒服。发现跑track和土路好多了。这个是我刚才搜
到的,觉得很有帮助。
If you do find yourself running on steeply cambered terrain, try running on
different terrain or different routes if you can. If you have to run on the
same streets, try running them in the other direction (if local laws and
traffic allow) or by running at the edge of the road on the shoulder rather
than on the road itself. Icing and self massage can also help relieve your
soreness.
Remember, if the problem gets worse, you may need to take
p********y
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Trail running generally takes place on hiking trails, most commonly single
track trails, although fire roads are not uncommon. A distinguishing
characteristic of the trails is that they are often inaccessible by road
except at the trail heads. The trails tend to traverse varying terrain;
hills, mountains, deserts, forests, and narrow passages are common. Likewise
, steep inclines or rough terrain sometimes may require hiking or scrambling
. Runners participating in trail runs must often descend ... 阅读全帖
a******g
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来自主题: Ski版 - One Foot Powder at Killington
刚收到 Killington 的 powder alert,Thanksgiving 有人有兴趣吗?
A foot of new snow in the past 24 hours and we're experiencing
our first Powder Day of the season!
Heading into the Thanksgiving Holiday Weekend, we're serving up
more than 40 trails and seven lifts, including the K-1 Express
Gondola, Superstar Express Quad and the Ramshead Express Quad
with terrain for all ability levels. Yep, we'll be feasting on
the most open terrain in New England and the most open Turkey Day
Trails that we've seen here at K
r*******1
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来自主题: Ski版 - snowboard 分类
再发一个如何练习carving的:
BASIC CARVING
Experience:
Students are able to perform basic and dynamic skidded turns on groomed,
blue terrain.
Exercise Goal:
Students will make basic carved turns in both directions on well groomed
green or easy blue terrain.
Safety considerations:
There is often a tendency for students to lean too far into the turn and
reach for the snow which can cause a loss of balance and lead to falls and
injuries especially to wrists.
Movement Concepts:
The instructor should emphasize
q*c
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我在看有没有beacon的好Deal, 要买一个
Do you always carry an avalanche beacon in avalanche terrain, and is it
always turned on in avalanche terrain?
Almost always, but I've left it behind or forgotten to turn it on.
Always, at home I "put it on and turn it on" and it stays on all day.
I don't usually travel with a beacon.
* Bacon, isn't that for breakfast?
If you're a man, do you often travel in mixed gender groups?
Frequently.
Once in a while.
* I'm a gal.
Can't te
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I would suggest western comrades follow more on what XYZOK had linked. What
aerozxy said seems well said for eastern slopes.
Ski technology and designs change fast these years to combat with snowboard
market. As a result skiers can now choose skis based on snow conditions and
terrains. I believe that's the right way to go, which is what XYZOK's link
says. Out of the the snow conditions and terrains that I like to ski on,
height+5cm is my comfort zone with additional +/-5cm range. Shape is anothe
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来自主题: Ski版 - 一个人去滑雪真没意思
if you ski in remote terrains or in the trees a lot, you need a partner.
there are many such terrains even inbound
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来自主题: Ski版 - 团购season pass - double whammy
Want to share my feeling about the double whammy pass and please let me know
if you feel I hijacking your topic.
Initially I like Northstar for its very good terrains for different skill
level. The vista express is a pretty long lift serving blue runs. it has a
straight forward backside terrain. You have quite a few nice options to ski
black trail to one lift at back side. One problem it brought is one quad
express serves the whole backside mountain and the waiting time could be
long. The mounta
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来自主题: Ski版 - 为什么大家都喜欢powder?
我在冰面上滑就觉得很无聊
当然自己达不到奥运选手80mph的速度,但是就自己的水平,冰面一般都是比较没变化
的terrain,就是很无聊地滑而已。要是powder往往代表着多边的terrain,一会有包包
,一会有mogule,地面各种feature,玩起来比较有趣。
当然也有冰包,冰mogule,双黑冰。那个,我还没那么suicidal
s*****2
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来自主题: Ski版 - COLORODA雪况好点了吗?

The last sentence is only partially true in that steep and rough
terrains require deep base (often >60") to enjoy. Resorts like JacksonHole
, Snowbird, Whistler, and of course Squaw all belong to this category. Had
there being less snowbase in these areas, much of their featured terrain
would have been wasted.
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