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p**********1
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来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - Will you make that call?
here is what I think about this hand. I am a cash game fish though, mostly
playing SNG type preflop game. so any critics welcome.
preflop, AK did not say what position villain is at, let's assume two ep
limper, villain call from hj. hero open 6x from btn/co, blinds fold, ep fold
, villain (hj)call. stacks are deep, so villain's range could have small/mid
pair or decent SCs.
flop Q87r goes check-check. villain's check means nothing, hero's check
however often means he has a good hand with showdow... 阅读全帖
r********t
发帖数: 1098
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来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 请高手做一下填空可以么?
例三:
在 under gun (第一个位置,枪口位置) 你拿了 .
你后面还有6个对手,数据说,6个对手,那么有26.6%的时候别人会有比你强的牌,如
果有9个对手会更多。如果你中了A,你很难从比你差到牌手中赢来很多钱。如果中了10
,又很难称其为 top pair,因为还有12个 overcard等你呢。
Limp in 如何呢。到现在差不多每一锅都有人 raise preflop,如果后面有人 raise到
20,很可能你和他单挑,你没有位置。单挑很忌讳位置差。而且如果对手有500,你们
单挑后到SPR正好差不多是10,对你玩对子非常不利。而且你的 .去靠 call 了raise
,经常是被统治的。
Raise 呢。Under gun raise,烂牌全吓跑,剩下的都是杀你的。如果有1,2个人靠
call 你,你没有位置。你中了对很难打,所以,扔牌是最佳打法。
记住,Undergun (第一个位置,枪口位置)扔掉 ..
例四:
Big blind 拿了 .
过去我和古风讨论过,这种小对子的预期怎么算。8把中一把,如果中了Set (三条)
能100%赢到话,那么能赢... 阅读全帖
p******a
发帖数: 975
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来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 新人报道——第一次实战赌场
在网上零零碎碎打了半年,积攒了丰富的被shark虐和虐fish的经验。上个月20NL胜率
稳定,于是觉得可以去live玩一下了。
周五下午以为老板不在,翘班半天。拉着reaver同学奔到了北边的扑克室。人山人海。
腐朽的美帝啊……
打200NL的一桌一半大爷一半小伙,桌上氛围也比较轻松。大爷们打起来全是tell,有
一种回到国内陪长辈打麻将的感觉。打法全是loose passive或tight passive,
preflop raise几乎可以确定TT+。Flop之后没怎么看人raise过。虽然觉得赢大爷们的
钱不太好,但是为了让大爷们明白要活到老学到老的道理,同时教育一下那几个工作日
出来赌博的美国小伙,决定打凶狠一点。打了三个多小时自己估计大概27/20,比在网
上打的稍松凶了一点。最后小赢两百多,正义之情冲塞胸臆,觉得自己作为一个国际友
人,不求利己专门利人,为美帝的精神文明建设作出了自己的贡献。
下面是几把比较大的牌
1. 我 UTG raise 3bb with AKo, 一黑人小伙(25BB)MP1call。Flop J52 rainbow,
我check,小伙唱着... 阅读全帖
d******u
发帖数: 142
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来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - One Hand
His preflop raise is a little too large for pocket As. Given I did not
reraise preflop, he is unlikely to fold KK and QQ unless he is extremely
weak. Will he fold JJ and TT? possible but what percentage? If it is close
to zero, I should not push. If it is 50-50, I think it should be profitable.
My thought was I will not get paid if I hit the flush at river, so it is
either fold or push.
S**********n
发帖数: 250
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来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - One Hand
---Preflop and Flop---
By limping in and calling his raise on preflop and his bet on flop, you did
represent a pocket pair against Ax. Especially when the flop is XXY, that
almost eliminate yourself from having Ax from others' eyes.
---Turn---
Now, the SB fires again on the turn, with almost everybody putting you on a
pair. what else can you put him on? Of course a strong pair.
Also, the turn is really a crappy card, if you shove here, you are actually
representing 3 things:
1) 55s (flop 885, ... 阅读全帖
f*****g
发帖数: 15860
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来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - wrong moves? Comments greatly appreciated.
lol, try to remember the good times you suck out on others, it's poker,
indeed, every one gets his fair share in the long term.
i busted AA again yesterday with my shameless 77, while in another one, my
flopped 33 set (lord, i only played 8 small pairs last night, but got 6 sets
) ran into JJ set. this is the 2nd time i ever had this.
other ppl were talking about my good hollywood acting (like an easy call for
them), while i was laughing, on a Js9s3d flop, how could this old weak man:
1) call a ... 阅读全帖
p****t
发帖数: 292
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来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - Got beat pretty bad in this hand....
If you think he'll call a bigger raise preflop, then raise bigger. Your
objective of the preflop 3bet should be to get him call as big as possible w
/o the right odds. I think your size doesn't give him the right odds to call
but if he'll call a 45$ raise, go for it. Heck, if he'll call allin, that's
even better. But to think you should have made it 45$ to shut him out is
flawed.
g*********d
发帖数: 8125
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来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 今晚的一手牌
What is the reason u don't raise preflop. If flop come with any thing with a
AKQJ with 3 limper I have no idea what to do. Raise preflop big to thin the
field to me is obvious choice.
10s has no show down value against 3 ppl to river. Whoever bet river
probably beat 10s.
I'd fold there

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p****r
发帖数: 9164
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来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 今晚的一手牌
well played postflop. it is pretty easy river call to me since his range is
quite polarized, especially he most likely played 2pr+ faster on the flop/
turn on such a draw heavy board.
I prefer to raise preflop as well. It really depends the
tendency of these preflop limpers, relative stacksize etc.

性比
n***a
发帖数: 274
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来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - hands
1. limped to hero in the sb, limped w/ 9Jo
flop: 789r, hero lead 12$, 2 callers, btn ss villain a ship w/27$ total;
hero reraise to 55$ total, others folded
turn: black, river T, villain mucked after hero showed down, claiming had TT
.
2. limped to hero at CO w/ 96s raised to 10$, c,c,c。flop 236r, checked to
CO-1 villain b lead 12$ into a 40+ pot, hero raise to 36$, f,f,villain tank
call,
turn: Jr, CO-1 check, hero ship the rest of villain b's ~45$, villain b tank
call, river: blank, villain b s... 阅读全帖
W********m
发帖数: 7793
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来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 小对的打法。。。
22-66在前位就是狗屎。 还不如56s. 1/2 对手差,limp的人多就便宜点看flop. Hit
不到就check fold. 小对子最大的问题是你post flop equity 太少。你前位raise,
flop 如果hit 不到set,你前位只有check/fold. 否则, 你的c-bet 一被call, turn
只能check fold 或cold bluff, 两个往往都是-ev. 56s 就不同, 你hit 个bottom
pair,你的 equity 就要比小对子多一倍多, 如果加个back door flush draw,
straight draw, 就更牛B了。在1/2, 懂得利用你的equity 加上点耐心,基本可以肯
定赢钱了, 如果value bet 的能力再强点, 就可以有不错的赢率了。 easy game.
在网上打FR nl 100, 很多时候, 我22-66 在utg preflop 直接就扔了,56s 有时候到
可以偶尔前位raise.
77-1010就好多了, preflop 第一选择当然是raise.
W********m
发帖数: 7793
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来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 小对的打法。。。
你这与其说是如何打小对子, 不如说是preflop raise/3 bet aggressor 的优势,其实
和你手中有无小对并无关系, 有误导之嫌.
以后你在3 bet 你的premium hand 的时候, 偶尔加上些3 bet trash bluff 来平衡即
可, 诸如96s, 105s, 45s, live 1/2 里傻鱼众多, odds 对的时候set farming 还是有
利可图, preflop 不必把小对子浪费了. 同样, 这些suited card, 你post flop 往往
equity 比small pair 更好, 你prelop big raise 后SPR 较小, 在好的牌面正好利用
这些equity, 打得凶一点. 比小pair 好多乐.
n***a
发帖数: 274
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来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 好搞笑的一手牌
preflop raise, 3bet;
flop: 552ss,3better cbet, caller A all in, caller B all in on top; 我看了看
手中的22。。。
3better deep stack想了很久,说:“你们都是照吧,靠。”
亮牌:caller A=A4ss,caller B=55! 3better=ATdd!!!
最后BBJ没有中。
还好我preflop fold了
D********i
发帖数: 78
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来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - OK, let's talk about poker
With no further read of this guy on BB, I can only assume that he is playing
the normal poker but not some kind of maniac floating around.
No big pairs for him apparently due to the check preflop. Big pair should
have squeezed to narrow down the field. Other than that, he is capable of
holding any two cards. Connectors, suited cards, suited connector, low pair
is still possible but not so likely, coz you may want to play your pair
short handed but not family pot.
I got reraised at the flop, what... 阅读全帖
p******a
发帖数: 975
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来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 新手请教一手牌
I will never fold here. Call or raise-shove are both fine.
He raise preflop, check flop, and raise turn. His value range includes (99,
77,KK,
AK,KQ,AA). Assume he go all-in with AK and KQ half time, and fold half time,
there are 9 combinations that beats you, 16 combinations you beat.So, that'
s definitely a +ev shove. Of course, he can also have some 97s type hands in
his range, which make shoving even more profitable.
Considering that he was last to act on the flop and he checked, he did not
c... 阅读全帖
w***w
发帖数: 6301
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来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 新手请教一手牌
I would call on turn,check and call big on river, reraise if opponent bet
not too big on river.
There are many hands with which opponent would bet like this, pure
bluff, straight draw with bluff, (like 5,6 is two way straight draw), two
pairs and even top pair.If you fold a set, then any time opponent bet big
you would fold.
It's like if you have pocket KK, and you would fold if opponent allin
preflop? Your encountering AA once doesn't mean your calling allin preflop
is wrong.
f*****g
发帖数: 15860
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来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 新手请教一手牌
in live, ppl tend to slow play more? as i observe.
the flop is relatively dry, BTN is afraid if he bets when checked to, 90%+
time he'll just take this small pot down, and "waste" a hard flopped top set
. after all, with his 99 (take out a lot of 9x hands), how many hands can
limp preflop and check call a reasonable bet of, say, $20? not many.
OP has this typical asian nit image as i guess, so most of time, checking is
a real indicator of weakness.
on the other hand, BTN doesn't c-bet like he "s... 阅读全帖
W********m
发帖数: 7793
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160$ stack, preflop 我就reraise. flop 就可以get it in 了。 preflop 没
reraise, flop, 我也会check shove...
--版驴
k*******u
发帖数: 266
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来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 问两手牌
基本问题就是preflop的raise太小了,out of position 的raising size要比in
position大一些。 不过即使如此,你的对手还是打的比较loose,spr来看他们的call是
-EV(不过也要看其他的stack,你没有描述清楚总体的情况)。
总的来说,在这种table上为了long term profit, preflop 有大牌要punish他们,尽
量raise big, 不要担心暴露strength的问题,这种donkey table 有好牌就是要尽量
squeeze. In position 的时候,top 20%的hand也要多value raise.
w***w
发帖数: 6301
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来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 如何应对Tournament Bubble
有一副live poker 1/2 NL的牌:
我前面是个solid player。连续几次preflop raise。我觉得他手里可能不会每次都是
特别好的牌吧。当他再次在MP preflop raise$12,我拿pocket 5 call。我后面有一个
call。
flop 2,4,9 rainbow。
他bet $25,我call。后面的fold。
turn是另一张9,他bet$45,这时我判断他是 big pocket pair。
我raise到$135,他犹豫了一下,说中了9?让dealer查了下我bet数目,就fold,亮出一
对K。(bluff最好在turn上raise对手的 bet,这样不但对方觉得你牌力很强,而且他
会顾忌你在river上还有一次bet,所以最容易fold)
我自己觉得这种情况(在live poker)绝大多数人都会fold。
但不知道大家是不是都是这么想。
在上面的牌例中:
1.如果你知道我偶尔bluff,你会fold KK吗?
2.如果你知道我经常bluff,你会fold KK吗?
c*****t
发帖数: 817
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你flop上打的没问题。有那么多outs这牌扔不掉了.
但是20个BB小对子是不能call preflop raise的。只能fold。不能set mining.不然
flop出来一般是3张高牌.你怎么办?
筹码再少点就好办了.你可以preflop allin.筹码再多点也成,你可以set
mining.
20 bb的stack玩小对子是个常见的leak.我经常看见有人call了一个big raise想hit
set.然后到flop上又不甘心觉得别人是continous bet.于是再call一发基本上就全打进
去了.
b*****r
发帖数: 2
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来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 6-12 Limit holdem 经验
最近一直在打6-12 Limit holdem,从连输不止到小有斩获。一点经验和大家分享,希
望Limit holdem高手, 如谭老师指教。
我们这是9人桌,7个人以上赌场收$5。 鱼总是有3,4个, (更鱼的估计在3-6);凶
悍的也会有1到2个(更凶的在8-16,20-40)。
ALWAYS play +EV hand
。Don’t change your mind when some player win a big pot with 49 suited
。Don’t stop raising your JJ preflop after losing your KQo preflop
Table/seat change:
。move to another table if more than two TAGs
。sit away from TAG in the table
。sit left to the loose aggressive player
M*Q
发帖数: 54
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来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - Better let the donk do the betting sometimes.
Useful insight. I thought you must have history with villian in hand 1,
otherwise you would 3bet preflop. The flat on preflop is tricky but worked
in this hand.
I'm playing NL25 on Merge. Need to learn~

call
down.
AK
H*********n
发帖数: 1397
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来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - NJ 筒子马上要解放了。
几年前我经常玩的时候,有个下午在pokerstar, preflop我一共来了7次好牌:
Me vs Villain
All all-in preflop:
1. KK vs QQ, my KK lost
2. AA vs KK, my AA lost
3. AA vs QQ, my AA lost
4. KK vs QQ, my KK lost
5. I had AhKh. UTG raised, I reraised, Button all in, SB all in. All of us
had 50-100BB. I like AK of hearts, because they are beautiful. But I folded
them for discipline. Button showed AA, SB showed KK. AA won. But, there are
two hearts on flop and 1 heart on river. Had I called......
6. KK vs QQ, my KK lost
7. AA vs JJ, m... 阅读全帖
p****0
发帖数: 611
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来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 这手牌对手的思路是什么?
local的小casino。 玩家大都是regular。 由于是小城市,所以大多时候是1/2 game。
但是game并不代表是大城市的典型1/2game。事实上,几个玩得好的regs说这里的1/
2game是他们见过的action最多的1/2game。
OK. Here come the hand:
1/2 game, 10人桌。 我的image是LAG and able to put pressure on player and
make fancy play. Villian的image是Weak/Tight. Hero 有300bb stack, Villian
150bb stack。
Preflop: Hero hold KsJs on the BTN. 4 limpers to Villian. Villian at MP
raised to $15. Only hero called.(Player knows when Villian preflop raise,
it means he has sth.)
Flop 9cAdJd. Villian led ou... 阅读全帖
d*****0
发帖数: 1500
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来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - limp or not
不能让这个帖子沉了,贡献下哥的2 cents
哥刚学online poker的时候,杂七杂八看过很多教材/视频,也受到过高人指点。
几条铁律记忆犹新:
1 满筹买入
2 不要limp
3 要tight aggressive
4 避免oop
5 增加一定的3bet/squeeze频率
现在回头想想,其实这只是一种preflop策略,用这种策略一定能稳定赢钱么?哥不觉
得。(当然,哥承认这套打法对上micro cash game的大多数reg很有效)
那问哥用什么策略一定能稳定赢钱呢?哥的答案是没有。
梨叔说过,没有一种打法是万能的,任何打法都有克制和被克制的打法。
poker的soul是adjustment和balance。对上不同级别不同类型的对手,想要maximize
profit就必须drastically调整你的策略。这个太宽泛,太多东西要补,哥也在学习中。
哥就拿自己的例子说说,为什么哥现在需要limp到很多很多手牌(42/15/7)。
因为哥现在profit来源主要是那些range宽,postflop打的烂的对手。
所以,哥要争取跟他们玩更多的postflop
所以,哥也需要... 阅读全帖
p****0
发帖数: 611
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来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 劳动节周末 live game 汇报
周末打了一轮2/5. 10人桌, 大约4个 tight/tough reg, 一个号称在LV的pro,2个nit
player,3个loose player。 除了号称pro的maximum buy in 1000, 其他大部分buy
500. 几个loose guys buy in 300.
总体来说还是和以往一样的weak game. Preflop re-raise 几乎没有。 大家都盯着打
那几个loose players。 I also run good. Hit set of 44, AA, and 22 on the flop
. Hit flush on the turn. Hit two pairs on the flop. Mixed my play with c-
bet and bluff, only loss one hand at showdown.
这里是有意思的两手牌:
Hand 1: Hero hold 22 at SB. UTG (loose guy) preflop raised to 15, MP (tough
reg), CO (su... 阅读全帖
f*****g
发帖数: 15860
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来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - Straddle 啥意思啊,
a blind bet preflop, before the cards are dealt.
most of places use standard straddle, meaning only UTG (the one after BB)
can do it, it can be any amount, but most likely, for example, $5-10 in 1/2.
some places use so called "mississippi straddle", so anybody can put in such
a blind bet from anywhere.
some places even allow multiple straddles, or re-straddle, one strddles and
another one can put in a higher blind bet, and so on.
when there's a straddle, the next player acts first, say, if UTG s... 阅读全帖
p******a
发帖数: 975
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来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 怎么看这些技术指标
光从这几个指标能得出以下结论:
Total Games: 129 game(s)
一桌打了一个多小时?继续加油
Games Won: won 29 of 129 (22%)
vpip得大于40了吧,玩的太松了,少玩一些pot
Win/Loss: won $7.12
赢钱了,恭喜,拍包子吧
Raise/Call Ratio: 0.7 (26 raises, 37 calls)
preflop call 太多了
Call/Fold Ratio: 0.4 (37 calls, 94 folds)
preflop call 太多了
Bet/Check Ratio: 0.9 (21 bets, 24 checks)
postflop bet 不够
总体而言是好的开始,要注意更加tight aggressive
p****0
发帖数: 611
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1/2 game.
BTN: loose guy, sometimes play trick. has stack about $700.
UTG+1: young black guy. New face, had stack of $400ish. (Only reading on him
is my QQ PF raised to $100 on his $25 call of the original raiser. He pushed
all in with about 130. My QQ hold up.)
UGT+2: black guy. no reading. had stack of $300ish.
UTG+3: black guy. short stack of $26.
LP: hero, had stack about 400. Hero hold black AA.
Preflop, UTG+1 raised to $12. UTG+2 called. UTG+3 all in with $26.
fold to hero. Hero's ... 阅读全帖
p******a
发帖数: 975
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来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 讨论几手牌
You mean calling range preflop or flop cbet?
Preflop, yes. Postflop, putting the villain on a range and make decision the
same as single raised pot.
I know nothing about tournament, so no comment on the main event.
P******y
发帖数: 55
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来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 讨教一个betting size的问题
考虑到preflop raising size跟stake大小有很大关系,本帖仅针以live 1/2 cash
game为例。
Hero (250bb) UTG with AhKc raised preflop to $12, 6 callers; 7 players see a
flop which comes Ad9d5h.
What's your betting size here, and why? Anybody would choose to check the
flop here, and why?
f*****g
发帖数: 15860
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来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 俺不是码工,所以请问
这个作弊可能,但是难度较大,很可能费力不讨好,尤其是还有各网站竞争的问题。
这个比BJ作弊要难得多,因为BJ的模型简单,相当于每把押(no fold preflop),必须
看到showdown,而且bet amount已经事先固定,网站想搞你一个,还是一群,都易如反
掌,要你中你就中,要你爆你就爆。
而扑克,要想隐蔽,貌似“正常波动”,它们首先得有一个强大的数据仓库,来支持对
每一个牌手的数据分析,以确定具体的行为模式(你怎么打每种牌,起码比较靠谱)。
然后,它们得利用这些分析去具体设局,按说不难,其实不易,这得局中每个演员都积
极配合才行,这个完全是动态规划的问题。
比如这的各位整天挂口上, balance your range,就是设局的一大障碍。
再比如,各位玩家手里的HUD,notes,也是一个问题,对A能这么打,对B可能就完全是
另一个风格,这里面有太多的人为不定因素,不是一个简单模型就能搞定的。
最简单的,本来给你发AA,给B发KK,设计好了river suckout full stack,结果B一看
你的数据,整个一super nit,preflop就fold to 4... 阅读全帖
y********n
发帖数: 2063
34
来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - AK hand-------big leak?
Yeah. I also notice what causes the biggest problem here is the preflop re-
raise size. It works sometimes, but does not mean it is good play. In this
peticular hand, if there is no cold-caller, I will not 3Bet so big. However,
if I 3bet so big, and get called, there is no good option for me.
I agree everything what you have said.
When one shorter stacker( 60BB or 50BB effective) opens from early position
and get called by one cold caller, flating with AK/TT,JJ should be the best
option. Just pl... 阅读全帖
z******n
发帖数: 8851
35
来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - OK,说走就走
hand 1, my 2 cents,
Villain limps preflop, and strongly bet two streets afterwards, most likely
he will not have a strong Ace (if so, he would raise preflop), so he could
have two pairs or better on flop. If you shove on river, you will be called
most of time, without any read i would put you on a missed flush draw, if
you have a 5, so be it, that's the time I will gamble :-)
I would check/fold on turn.
In limp pot, you never lose your whole stack, hehe...
f*****g
发帖数: 15860
36
来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - one funny hand
2/5, loose table.
preflop, there's a $20 open bet, a $50 small raise, and 3 callers.
flop: Kc7c3c
EP checks, MP (a young guy with a little tilting) quickly pushes his $300
stack to the middle.
before the guy (MP+1) next to him, who made the small raise preflop, even
acts or says anything, MP turns over Kh2h!
MP+1 and the table is amazed by this and starts to laugh ...
it takes a whole minute and MP+1 finally makes the call with 3 guys behind
him.
MP+1's AsKs holds up in the end, and keeps everyo... 阅读全帖
T*********k
发帖数: 1621
37
周末在 foxwoods 过夜,action table 2/5. Table is so loose, 35 块 preflop 4+
以上 call 稀松平常,3 bet 几分钟出现一次,每隔 2 手牌就看一次 Allin。到最后
看人 allin 简直变成了很 boring 的一件事。 AA KK 给 crack 的都让人想 preflop
就 fold 的冲动。
然后就这手牌:
player A semi tight 的 regular 有 $1500。 Play B 一老头,一看就是 rock,运气
不错, flop set vs flop straight, suck out on the river. $2000 stack.
Starddle 10, 4 limp, 包括我,老头在 hijack 也 limp,Player A 在 SB 突然毫无
征兆的宣布 Allin。 尼玛,才 $60 块的 pot 你 ship $1500? Are you kidding me?
大家一边笑骂着一边一个一个 fold。
突然一个声音响起 “Call”, What?! 定睛一看,是... 阅读全帖
f*****g
发帖数: 15860
38
来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - To gamble or not to gamble
yes, draws can be played many ways, but there's one thing different in this
hand, you didn't even call the flop (with over $700 left if called), this in
turn, made your preflop OOP limp call 6BB questionable, right?
As7s has little value other than nut flush draw on the flop (1/8), let alone
from MP, and to call 6BB from a tight/deep player with position. it's
almost like ATo, we need to fold here and there preflop without position if
we care too much about variance, they're all trouble hands if... 阅读全帖
p******a
发帖数: 975
39
来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - One hand
看有人感兴趣我就展开说一下好了。
optimal play的求解,人越多越容易,stack越浅越容易。两种极端的情况是,比如桌
上坐23个人玩holdem,这个optimal strategy就很显然了。或者20bb一下的HU,
optimal strategy就是Nash Table。
现在高级别100bb 6max NLHM很多高手的strategy就很接近optimal了。galphond在好几
个视频里说过,他不喜欢4bet,因为preflop 4bet他觉得自己已经没什么edge了。这是
因为preflop 4bet以后的情况太简单了,尤其有了hud之后。另外越来越多的顶级玩家
都开是玩深筹桌,比如PS就有很多高额200bb的桌子,因为100bb的打法已经被研究的很
深入了,绝顶高手之间的edge越来越小。
现在还没有人真正能给出100bb 6max的解(当然有也不会对人说),但是这个解可以证
明是存在的。我觉得《Expert Heads Up No Limit Hold'em, Volume 1: Optimal and
Exploitative Strategies》是最... 阅读全帖
s*****s
发帖数: 1130
40
来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - never fold 63
200NL 6max
BTN: ~$250 a good aggressive player who steals and cbets often. He knows I
can bluff him in many ways and he doesn't fold easily.
BB: Hero 6h3h ~$250, I often 3bet BTN preflop or check raise BTN cbet on
flop
Preflop
BTN open to $6
Hero call
Flop: 6d4h2d
Hero check
BTN cbet $9.75
Hero raise to $21.5
BTN reraise to $54
Hero call
Turn: 8s
Hero check
BTN bet $76
Hero call
River: Jc
Hero check,
BTN all in
Hero call
Guess what BTN has?
m*****g
发帖数: 3029
41
来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 最近打牌打得有点心灰意冷
Online 的 bad beat 比 live 多
我统计过我的aa,kk preflop allin和cooler
非常sick,概率不一般的高
网站做过手脚
我的aa preflop allin had 100 hands
winning rate is 40%
sick?

人。
s*****s
发帖数: 1130
42
来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - deep stack JJ vs LAG 4bet
It is fun to play other LAGs.
6max 400NL
BB: ~$700, LAG that 3bet light vs my BTN steal 3 times in the last 10 mins.
1st time, I fold. 2nd time, I 4bet light, he calls preflop and flop cbet,
and fold to my turn bet. 3rd time, I call his 3bet, float flop and fold to
his second barrel.
CO: $400, LAG that steals often and is trying to fight back my 3bet from out
of position
Hero: JdJh ~$800, a crazy raise station that the whole table knows
Preflop
CO open $10
Hero raise to $35
BB 4bet to $83
CO fol... 阅读全帖
m*****g
发帖数: 3029
43
来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 2手牌
1
i am at sb,button preflop raise 3x BB, I reraise 10x BB with AA, he shoved
with 100BB.
I call. He showed JJ.
I killed this donkey.
2
I am button with suited KQ. tried to limp in.
BB preflop raise 3.5X BB
I call.
flop 10 J X and give me a royal flush draw
He c-bet 10X BB. I call.
turn is blank. He c-bet big 25X BB. I call.
River is A and give me straight. But it is not a royal flush.
he check. I shoved with rest 70x BB.
He called and mucked. What is his hand?
A high?
s*****s
发帖数: 1130
44
来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 今天一手诡异的牌
200NL 6max
BB: Hero AA $265
UTG: new to table, seems fishy $190
BTN: short stacker $65
Preflop
UTG limp
MP and CO fold
BTN open $9
SB fold
BB Hero 3bet to $24
UTG call $24
BTN all in
Hero raise again to $100
UTG call again
Flop Qs6h4d
Hero all in
UTG call
UTG's hand looks so strong, but I do have AA. I was wondering maybe he has
AA too.
BTN shows KK, which makes sense.
Guess what UTG shows, Js7s. He got nothing preflop and flop !!!
Guess what happens after
Turn 7 !!!!
River 7 !!!!!!!
UTG took ... 阅读全帖
p****0
发帖数: 611
45
来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 讨论现场两手牌
Hand 1:already played couple hours. Game dynamics was normal, no extreme
wild move, not too loose, not too tight. All players know each other. Hero
's image was semi-tight. Hero had stack about 600.
UTG: hero
MP: villain, tight player in general, can make move sometime, capable of
read. stack 1300ish
BTN: old nittish guy. had stack about 400ish
BB: young guy with short stack of 100ish
Preflop: Hero hold KhKd led out 15. MP called. BTN raised to 50. BB, hero
and MP called.
Flop: AcJc6d. H... 阅读全帖
q****8
发帖数: 3281
46
来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - KK bluff AA 失败
今早的一手牌
UTG(Hero) $2584 with Kc Kd
BTN(wild fish) $1194
SB(weak tight) $2151 with Ah Ad
BTN 就是在我另一篇帖子里介绍的wild fish。SB 在NL600里属于相对weak tight型的。
Preflop:
Hero limp in
BTN raises to $54
SB re-raises to $252
Hero calls
BTN folds
我当时看他3bet的size第一反应就是可别碰到AA啊。所以就flat call了。
Flop:
Jh 7h 5d
SB bet $395
Hero call $395
他cbet size也超大,我其实理智知道他最起码80%可能是AA,另外20%是KK和QQ,但其
他因素还是让我call了。
Turn: 2h
SB check
Hero shove $1938
SB tank call $1505
Turn 出来同花可能,我想这是我唯一的机会拿下这个pot,如果check就等于放弃了。当
时pot $1300多,我当时觉得只有shove一条路了... 阅读全帖
q****8
发帖数: 3281
47
来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 扑克小讲座 之bet or check
就象D神在一个帖子里讲的,利润的来源并不是一些很接近的决定,而是basic or
advanced ABC poker的概念,bet or check就属于这种基本的概念,我用一手今年打的
牌来举例说明。
NL600 6-handed
Preflop:
UTG (OK reg, $778) opens to $18
CO (Hero, $626) calls with Ts 9h
Flop:
Ah Ks Kc
UTG checks
Hero bets 2/3 pot $30
UTG calls
Turn:
Qd
UTG checks
Hero bets 2/3 pot $70
UTG calls
River:
Jd
UTG checks
Hero checks
UTG shows Ad Kd
Preflop我在CO位用 T9o call UTG open,这是否合适,是另一个话题。我的VPIP是很高
的,我flat 3bet的比例也超高,这基于我对postflop技术的自信和本身打牌的风格。
问题一: why bet on Flop?
因为我没有showdown value,他不cb... 阅读全帖
m****9
发帖数: 492
48
能分享几手牌看看嘛。会不会是因为deep stack打法的问题,很多reg一旦stack深了在
preflop/flop/turn上会loose一点。
我的一手2/5:
Preflop:
UTG($1000+): Bet $25.
EP: call
MP:Hero(~$1000): Call with AKo
Btn: call
Flop: ($100)
AcQdTd
Checked to Hero, bet $75, UTG call
Turn: ($250)
3sAcQdTd
UTG check, Hero bet $125, UTG call.
River: ($500)
8d3sAcQdTd
UTG lead $250, Hero tank call, UTG showed Ad6d.
虽然知道自己已经被beat了,之前被river bet好几次,这次咬咬牙pay off了。
w***w
发帖数: 6301
49
来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 请教一手牌,Villain到底什么牌?
对手可能是77.
因为是deep stack,拿77 call lz 100道理上也说的过去。
lz应该在preflop尽量把pot打大。要是我至少reraise 400, 或者allin。
因为到了flop,你没位置,又是deep stack,更难打。
不过对手是什么牌,并不重要。重要的是action要在自己舒服的时候做.(preflop)
t*********t
发帖数: 1058
50
来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 请教一手牌,Villain到底什么牌?
Thanks for your advice.
77 was a possibility there. But I know he didn't have it after the hand - he
looked at his cards and picked a 7. If it was 77, he didn't need to look at
them and he would have showed 77 to the table to make his future bluffs
more convincing.
After reading your and others' comments, I think I should have raised 300 to
400 at preflop to give him a real test. I was influenced by his super large
stack and a previous hand where a player slow played AA. It was really dumb
for m... 阅读全帖
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