k****g
发帖数: 1509 | 1 Some low level population in inner cities definitely are doing these shits
every day. I said before at least 1/3 or even more of these wellfare is
fraud and it is a bid waste. The purpose of 08 admin expanding wellfare
extremely in 3 yrs is absolutely for votes but nothing, they knew there are
a lot of frauds. At state level, some states are tightening wellfare appl
and disability benefit. The thing is the most money comes from Feds directly
. That is why GOP want to the states deal with wellfar... 阅读全帖 |
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t*c
发帖数: 8291 | 2 endanger the wellfare of a child 是不需要主观意图的，
即使不知道车里有孩子，也可以定罪。
他蓄意违规行使，造成交通事故，就足以定罪endanger wellfare of child了。
因为车祸对小孩子的影响是巨大的，即使身体上没有受到损伤，心理伤害是很大的。 |
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t*b
发帖数: 850 | 3 you are wrong.
It is not always about real military strength, it is more about perception.
You are right that no country will attack US land. But there will be more
and more countries that will not follow US.
You are wrong that overseas military presence is no benefit to US citizens.
Russian also has enough nuclear power to wipe off anything on Earth many
times, why countries don't follow Russian?
Strong militray presence (note the word presence) is a threat that nobody
says, nobody discusses, b... 阅读全帖 |
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x****a
发帖数: 817 | 4 It's not going to happen.
The majority of the Chinese immigrants, belong to what you guys call the "
lobster party". They are "undocumented", and "dependent on wellfare".
Even AA/SCA5 may work for that group, I know several families who will be
perfectly content if their kids can go to a decent public or private college
, as long as it is affordable.
In other words, they care less about ranking and prestige, more about
financial support. After all, it's relatively easy to claim hardship and
then... 阅读全帖 |
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y***n
发帖数: 6764 | 5 ai，don't let me start on politics ...
麻省是民主党一手遮天啊，贫民和工会是麻省民主党的基本盘，要不怎么在刚结束的中
期选举中，在全国民主党全面溃败的形势下，麻省的民主党能一面红旗也不倒？（比加
州还坚挺！）
在麻省，基本上是用social wellfare来摆平贫民的，这几年，麻省年年在裁老师，警
察，消防队员，但就是不动wellfare program? 为什么？因为那是他们的执政的基础。
其实对于有工作的人来是，羊毛出在羊身上，波士顿这里房子贵是出名的，地税也不低
，房子还又老又破。 |
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A***6
发帖数: 243 | 6 There is only one mistake. Mao etc. knows all about philosophy but did not
apply to economics. A balance of market and plan, balance between
cooperation and competion, balance between social wellfare and rewarding
hard work, such balance keeps the economy moving but not crash. Mao had
great experimentation but later went too far to one extreme, while later
Deng went too far to the other extreme. Some day someone will learn to find
a balance and get better of the two. |
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d**********2
发帖数: 684 | 7 sb.
the difference is that most of the taxes you paid in US will be used to serve the people including you:
most free interstate/highway,
almost free national parks,many free other parks,free public education
system, extensive library system, strong police force to safeguard your
daily security, pays the wellfares (foods, medical etc) for poor people...as small things as free toilet papers in any public facilities and hiring people to maintain;
But in China most of the taxes you paid will be dra... 阅读全帖 |
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c****h
发帖数: 4968 | 8 芝加哥南边根本就是另一个城市，和其他地区相比是天壤之别。可惜了芝加哥人纳税人
的钱被用在南边wellfare治安上了。来芝加哥要住downtown或者北边。房价高，黑人没
有大规模入侵，治安好，硬件设施一流。 |
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h*d
发帖数: 19309 | 9 agree with a few points but I think social wellfare system needs to be
changed differently. no cash payment or cash equivalent payment (like
foodstamp) should be directly paid out to anybody, they should be received
only as non-tradable items, like eating in a public food distribution center
or used to pay shelter cost. anybody who cannot provide their children with
enough healthy food regardless of number of children should be charged with
child negligence, all their kids should be taken to fos... 阅读全帖 |
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d*b
发帖数: 21830 | 10 这里人担心的是，父母如果不做千老回国舔党妈眼子了，丫的美国籍的小孩怎么办？每
半年买张飞机票回趟美国？共产党为什么被人看不起？因为丫做的所有事考虑的从来都
是虚无缥缈的“党的执政权”，对一个社会的最基本的细胞---家庭的最基本的
wellfare都视而不见。
你们这些从来没在美国呆国的土鳖就少说几句吧。 |
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d*b
发帖数: 21830 | 11 在美土鳖们担心的是，父母今后如果不做千老，打算“毅然”回国舔党妈眼子，丫的美
国籍的小孩怎么办？以后每半年买张飞机票回趟美国？
共产党为什么被人看不起？是因为丫所做的一切事首先考虑的从来都是王岐山所说的“
党的执政权”，而对一个社会的最基本的细胞---家庭最基本的wellfare：家庭的完整
性，却视而不见。 |
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m***s
发帖数: 1094 | 12 They wiil leave after they have drained the whole social wellfare system |
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m***s
发帖数: 1094 | 13 Ok, then they will stay even after they have drained social wellfare system |
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e***s
发帖数: 1397 | 14 An interesting part:
"People tell Nunez her daughter could get more money in public assistance if
she had a child.
"A lot of people have told me, 'Why don't your daughter have a kid?'"
They both reject that as a plan."
Obviously, having kids just so that the parents can live on wellfare is a
popular method among these people.
I am not sure if that personal decision of not taking this route is a
volunteering decision, though... judging from her daughter's figure... :-)
PBS |
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r*********n
发帖数: 949 | 15 Ridiculous!
If you don't want to help, nobody force you to help. You should talk this
personal responsibility to all the amricans on WIC, on wellfare, on medicaid
..... |
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z********1
发帖数: 997 | 16 你的唯一的可信点就是： 要动三巨头， 可是，
奥巴马有说不动三巨头么？
他的核心就是改革医疗体系。 他要cut commission and subsidies for healthcare
professinals and providers. cut over priced drug price there are no waste...
I can go on and on. 这些举措都是实实在在的针对loopholes的。 脸共和党都不能
否认吧？
目前富人不是在变穷， 而是更富， 中产不是在扩张， 而是在缩小。 有多少中产在08
年危机沦落为穷人？ 美国的贫富差距不是在缩小， 而是扩大了。 在这个时刻， cut
wellfare，根本是让沦落的中产根本不能重新回到中产， 才是方向性问题。
至于赤字。 别忘了， 奥巴马面临的就是花大钱的时候， stimulus, bail out,都是大
头的出钱的， 为了给08年危机止血， 这是common sense, 不花行么？ 花的比bush多
， 这不废话么？ bush有这样的经济危机去救么？ |
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k****g
发帖数: 1509 | 17 this is damn right. This afternoon I saw one pt with lot of problems, u name
it, CHF, OA, DM, HTN, chRONIC PAIN, drug abuse, etc. She told me: my
goodness, we were so nervous, they (Rep) said they will take foodstamp and
wellfares away."
and |
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k****g
发帖数: 1509 | 18 AGREE. They take wellfare from gov and then return back volunteerily. Good. |
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l******g
发帖数: 6771 | 19 I agree with you. We need revenue to balance the budget but don't just
target 2% which is not fair. Marginal tax rate should be raised for all and
burden need to shared so people can make rational choices. Wellfare needs
to be cut, but don't cut it blindly. Protection network for the weak need
to be there but the spirit should be to encourage people to work.
With all that said, it's hard to say raising tax for everyone in current
political atmosphere. I never understand why it's a sin to ju... 阅读全帖 |
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l******g
发帖数: 6771 | 20 累进税率前提下，raise the marginal rate the same way until the budget is
balanced. Well, if this is too painful for the population, the cut the
wellfare until it's reasonably painful ;-) |
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k****g
发帖数: 1509 | 21 Truth. $20000 Per person with wellfare a yr.
cash
minority |
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l******g
发帖数: 6771 | 22 As I said, raise the rate and close the loopholes until the budget is
balanced. These two are not mutually exclusive. You may need to borrow
more to stimulate economy when it's sticky. All these are relatively easy.
The real difficult part is after the economy rebound. When you have surplus
, you need to reduce the tax rate and cut the fat from wellfare. Well, that
's hard from any politician.
than |
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w****i
发帖数: 964 | 23 历史总是在不断重复自己,人要会从历史中总结才会进步,不是忽略过去就能进步的
混血程度当然是衡量种族界限的一个指标,不知道这有什么难理解的
这个版上很多人抱这一种非黑即白的观点,觉得或者是和黑人一边或者是和白人一边,看
到有人选边不同就急吼吼地上来,头脑简单到爆
都是没有自己的idnetity
华人为了AA,wellfare abuse可以联合白人,为了其他minority利益也可以联合黑人
重要的是使自己的种族利益最大话,而不是简单的选边站 |
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C****n
发帖数: 2324 | 24 They don't want, or they can't, all because the wellfare. |
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a**********2
发帖数: 3726 | 25 支持医生收cash,现在的medical system被穷人abuse的太狠了，就如同他们abuse
wellfare一样。 |
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B*Q
发帖数: 25729 | 26 2015年 US GDP $17937.8B
2015年 US Wellfare $361.9B (2%)
对比：
伊拉克战争费用 > $2000B
2015 Defense spending: $797.9B |
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k***n
发帖数: 3158 | 27 yes we will find out
my interests benefit from legal immigrants like you much more than from
citizens who are on wellfare all their lives.
so I don't want to stop people like you coming in.
interest. |
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k***n
发帖数: 3158 | 28 "legal immigrants like you"
I would be wrong if you are actually on wellfare
Legal immigrants have a much higher % living on welfare than native-born
citizens.
Again, you liberals lie. |
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w*****m
发帖数: 20421 | 29 你去KY IN看看，白人ON WELLFARE的占多数，不要把不愿意劳动变成种族的问题
家庭不好，不愿意念书，无知识无技能，就找不到工作，问题就来了 |
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发帖数: 1 | 30 讲个非法移民的传奇故事
我家的割草砍树之类，都是亲力亲为，所以不认识割草砍树的非法老墨，但因为跟一家
中餐馆的老板很熟，经常去那里吃饭，连带认识了几个非法移民老墨。
都是偷渡过来的，据说很容易，很便宜，$300美元就搞定，所以他们经常嘲笑大陆来的
偷渡客，说大陆偷渡客要花六七万美元才能来美国，来了还不敢中途回家探亲，不像他
们老墨，几百美元就偷渡过来了，农忙的时候，或者家里有啥事的时候，他们还能回家
探亲，探完再花几百美元就又到美国来了。
老墨来到美国之后，很多是在中餐馆打杂，他们年轻力壮，干活卖力，要价又低，所以
中餐馆老板愿意雇他们。
当时那个中餐馆也雇了一个大陆偷渡来的中年男人，是老板的老乡，老板给他的工资要
比给老墨的多几百块，但那人身体不大好，干活有点偷懒，所以老板总在念叨，说如果
不是看在老乡份上，就把他炒了，雇个老墨能省不少钱。
有次去那里吃饭，看到一个新面孔，也是老墨，很憨厚，什么英语都不会说，就会憨憨
的笑。
我问老板，以前那个A呢？怎么没见了？
老板说，A前几天跟人撞了车，跑回墨西哥躲灾去了。
我问，那警察会不会找到你这里来？
老板说，那怎么会呢？他又没驾照，车也是... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1 | 31 O'Reilly: 'Dependent' Cities Like New York 'Will Never Embrace Trump'
纽约每个月什么food stamp还有廉租房还有disability之类杂七杂八加起来就十亿美金
一个月 ，纽约市80%都是民主党的铁票。纽约市欠1000 亿美金，根本没有可能还得上
，纽约市是在占全美国的便宜，靠联邦资金过日子。全美国纳税人的钱在支持纽约。纽
约的人还敢瞧不起中西部的农民？！这些人口多的城市比如纽约洛杉矶，旧金山 很多
非法移民，福利又多，如果不是联邦资金，他们都养不活自己。所以那些市长要搞
sanctuary city压根是作，只要联邦基金一断，纽约市马上崩溃。所以左派压根不靠谱
，连自己都养不活，还要去做高大上。洛杉矶，旧金山同样的道理，都是在占全美国
纳税人的便宜，真要离开美国，这些城市都要破产。
new york city is a wellfare state, 38% white, 29% hispanic, 24% black, 14%
asian. 38% of population is foreign born... 阅读全帖 |
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D**s
发帖数: 6361 | 32 让纽约独立好了…
[在 ddsd (ddsd) 的大作中提到：]
:O'Reilly: 'Dependent' Cities Like New York 'Will Never
Embrace Trump'
:纽约每个月什么food stamp还有廉租房还有disability之类杂七杂八加起来就十亿美
金一个月 ，纽约市80%都是民主党的铁票。纽约市欠1000 亿美金，根本没有可能还得上
:，纽约市是在占全美国的便宜，靠联邦资金过日子。全美国纳税人的钱在支持纽约。
纽约的人还敢瞧不起中西部的农民？！这些人口多的城市比如纽约洛杉矶，旧金山 很多
:非法移民，福利又多，如果不是联邦资金，他们都养不活自己。所以那些市长要搞
:sanctuary city压根是作，只要联邦基金一断，纽约市马上崩溃。所以左派压根不靠
谱，连自己都养不活，还要去做高大上。洛杉矶，旧金山同样的道理，都是在占全美国
:纳税人的便宜，真要离开美国，这些城市都要破产。
:new york city is a wellfare state, 38% white, 29% hispanic, 24% blac... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1 | 33 纽约连自己都养不活，压根就是靠全美国纳税人在养
O'Reilly: 'Dependent' Cities Like New York 'Will Never Embrace Trump'
纽约每个月什么food stamp还有廉租房还有disability之类杂七杂八加起来就十亿美金
一个月 ，纽约市80%都是民主党的铁票。纽约市欠1000 亿美金，根本没有可能还得上
，纽约市是在占全美国的便宜，靠联邦资金过日子。全美国纳税人的钱在支持纽约。纽
约的人还敢瞧不起中西部的农民？！这些人口多的城市比如纽约洛杉矶，旧金山 很多
非法移民，福利又多，如果不是联邦资金，他们都养不活自己。所以那些市长要搞
sanctuary city压根是作，只要联邦基金一断，纽约市马上崩溃。所以左派压根不靠谱
，连自己都养不活，还要去做高大上。洛杉矶，旧金山同样的道理，都是在占全美国
纳税人的便宜，真要离开美国，这些城市都要破产。
For NY city, annual federal funding is 7 billion, new york city is a
wellfare state, 38% wh... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1 | 34 纽约连自己都养不活，压根就是靠全美国纳税人在养
O'Reilly: 'Dependent' Cities Like New York 'Will Never Embrace Trump'
纽约每个月什么food stamp还有廉租房还有disability之类杂七杂八加起来就十亿美金
一个月 ，纽约市80%都是民主党的铁票。纽约市欠1000 亿美金，根本没有可能还得上
，纽约市是在占全美国的便宜，靠联邦资金过日子。全美国纳税人的钱在支持纽约。纽
约的人还敢瞧不起中西部的农民？！这些人口多的城市比如纽约洛杉矶，旧金山 很多
非法移民，福利又多，如果不是联邦资金，他们都养不活自己。所以那些市长要搞
sanctuary city压根是作，只要联邦基金一断，纽约市马上崩溃。所以左派压根不靠谱
，连自己都养不活，还要去做高大上。洛杉矶，旧金山同样的道理，都是在占全美国
纳税人的便宜，真要离开美国，这些城市都要破产。
For NY city, annual federal funding is 7 billion, new york city is a
wellfare state, 38% wh... 阅读全帖 |
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r*****x
发帖数: 6988 | 35 加加，楼主是当初帮着康妈一起骗捐的，都能骗钱了，还能不会造谣。
发信人: westxi (huahua), 信区: WaterWorld
标 题: 我捐款的理由
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Mar 19 10:48:23 2013, 美东)
我不会仅仅因为有人需要钱而捐款，我只会捐给我觉得值得的人
在这个事情里，我同情lilykang的遭遇，也觉得她的帖子是真情流露，更重要的是我欣
赏她面对生死离别的坚强，还有面对网上流言选择的沉默。she earned my respect
我相信她可以培养好三个孩子，让他们有坚强而又豁达平和的心态，我很愿意给一点微
不足道的帮助
这才是我捐款的原因，是否需要钱是次要因素，最主要的是是否有坚强而平和的心态
我把我的捐款看作award而不是wellfare，所以讨论lilykang有多少钱，谁比lilykang
更需要钱对于我来说没有意义 |
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a*****6
发帖数: 1800 | 36 我靠， westxi 果然是个骗子，难怪要拿二战老兵的葬礼来造谣。
发信人: rackyfx (bomei), 信区: USANews
标 题: Re: 川粉说，你们不同意跪美军就是美化日本军国主义
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Oct 2 00:26:51 2017, 美东)
加加，楼主是当初帮着康妈一起骗捐的，都能骗钱了，还能不会造谣。
发信人: westxi (huahua), 信区: WaterWorld
标 题: 我捐款的理由
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Mar 19 10:48:23 2013, 美东)
我不会仅仅因为有人需要钱而捐款，我只会捐给我觉得值得的人
在这个事情里，我同情lilykang的遭遇，也觉得她的帖子是真情流露，更重要的是我欣
赏她面对生死离别的坚强，还有面对网上流言选择的沉默。she earned my respect
我相信她可以培养好三个孩子，让他们有坚强而又豁达平和的心态，我很愿意给一点微
不足道的帮助
这才是我捐款的原因，是否需要钱是次要因素，最主要的是是否有坚强而平和的心态
我把我的捐款看作award而不是well... 阅读全帖 |
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c*******d
发帖数: 1283 | 37 Wtf are you talking about ? Swiss is a wellfare country . European countries
are mostly on the left. Shabi. |
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c*******d
发帖数: 1283 | 38 USA is never a wellfare country . You know a shit of USA. |
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m***y
发帖数: 14763 | 39 好吧，不开玩笑，真搞UBI的话，老汉多交的税都不止这千儿八百的。这个帐还是要算
清的，别诬陷老汉贪图那点筋头巴脑的。
老汉支持，是因为UBI的overhead比较小。现在的wellfare，那么多人管审批/监管，就
像以前的mutual fund一样，从业人员拿走了赚头的大部分，纳税人和受益人反而互有
怨气。比如吧，上次加拿大闹难民吃饭，一天70，好多纳税人都哭，我一天也没有吃到
70啊！可是难民也哭啊，就那点狗粮，市场价有没有7块！
UBI就像现在老汉买的passive index fund，不搞那些研究了，直接按成分股买买买，
管理费用就降下来的。
但UBI现在不是时候，还是得先修墙。安内必先攘外，墙都是破的，搞UBI，全世界无产
阶级就能把你吃跨。还是局座那句话，不是free lady的那句，public charge rule得
重新严格施行起来。 |
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n*******3
发帖数: 5232 | 40 妞班上有个很可爱的小男孩，也是11个月左右。
昨天去接妞，妞的老师说，他要添个弟弟了。
我说记得他已经有了三个姐姐了，
老师说他有三个姐姐一个哥哥。
我跟lg就佩服的说，这daycaer得花多少钱阿。
（我们是240一周，包吃）
老师说，他爸妈一个礼拜之用给他付5块钱，因为是wellfare。
这比在家还省阿。 |
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G**T
发帖数: 2610 | 41
天，别是出啥事儿了吧 －－ 新闻看多了，被人害的华人家庭不算少。
难到不能打电话到上一个住址处的police问吗？ －－wellfare check是警察的例行义
务。 如果搬家了，可以询问原来的房东？如果卖房搬家，动静就更大了，怎么可能不
留痕迹呢？
Good luck. |
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n**8
发帖数: 123 | 42 Great news for all the people. Not good news for stock market though. The
cost for social wellfare will be more than double with much longer life
expectency, and perhaps more costly healthcare too. A double dip recession
is almost garatteed. |
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y***n
发帖数: 6764 | 43 民主党只知道滥用钱来用social wellfare买他们的基本盘。
打仗是刺激经济的，民主党一直也乱打仗的，Obama到现在还没真正得撤军。 |
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y***n
发帖数: 6764 | 44 其实，麻省靠的是high tech，biotech这些强项，很难argue这和Patrick/DEM有多少关
系。
民主党在麻省靠的还是拿wellfare的人群。 |
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a*********a
发帖数: 3656 | 45 Firstly:
I don't know what you mean by "罗母尼这么多tricks避税，他也得交13%
呢"
Romney's tax is extremely transparent. Romney's income is dominantly long
term capital gain or qualified dividend. By current tax law, the max tax
rate on such income is 15%. he donates 10% of his income to Morman
church. 0.9*15% = 13.5%. This is pretty much ballpark of his tax.
It is that simple. no tricks played, no tax avoidance, no tax evasion. He
could have done his Fed tax with a turbo tax premium. :)
Lingering on the 13% nu... 阅读全帖 |
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a*********a
发帖数: 3656 | 46 Firstly,
why you say "everybody is paying double tax"?
For illustration. Say a company made $1, pays 20 cents as salary to a worker
, and pay 1 cent as empolyer pay roll tax, had other "costs" of 29 cents. It
s tax liability is based on 50cents income after cost. The employee pays 1
cent pay roll, then pays Fed income tax on the remaining 19 cents.
In this whole process, no single 1 cent is taxed twice by the Fed government
. if you piece it together, the total tax is the sum of various rates ti... 阅读全帖 |
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L******w
发帖数: 5407 | 47 去ridgewood那家 whole food看过几次，没有那个肉是标注有机肉的。
就是一个莫名其妙的wellfare. 大家怎么买的？ |
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s****y
发帖数: 304 | 48 ☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
vickistorm (vickistorm) 于 (Wed Sep 10 20:30:17 2008) 提到:
出来的人当中，独生子女所占的比例越来越多了，父母在，不远游，但是为了事业
发展，很多人选择了在美国拿到学位以后在美国工作，但毕竟不是长久之计，父母老了
，接过来不现实，花费也太高了，看来也只有海龟一条路了，否则太不孝顺了，美国正
的钱虽然多，但是买不来父母亲情，有的人狠心，但我觉得绝大多数人还是想海龟的，
毕竟国内也在发展，条件也好起来了
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nihuai (MAC Evangelist之苦行僧～大脑穿刺) 于 (Wed Sep 10 20:32:50 2008) 提到:
接过来吃垮美国的social security和medicare不是很好么？
obama上台了，美国里wellfare state就近了一步，赶紧入籍吃大户。
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l******2
发帖数: 2994 | 49 教师工会is really the disease of the education system.the state where I'm ,
the pay and wellfare for teachers are better than most of states, 180 days
of vacation... but the testing score is almost the lowest one in the U.S.
many drop offs from middle schools. The case of firing all teachers in
central fall makes the teachers stopped the fight with education board of
the town I live. they took back their claims of increasing payments and
insurance and accept the offer of reducing salaries and more c... 阅读全帖 |
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h*******g
发帖数: 2201 | 50 Exactly!
Here is what I wrote when I heard the "touching" story on NPR some time ago:
NPR, they overwhelm you with tears so they can remove your brain.
I love listening to NPR. Always good stories. But gradually I found a
pattern. They overwhelm you with touching stories, jack up your emotions,
and then, they will sneak in something does not make sense, so they hope you
will accept their ideas without thinking.
I am kind of sick of their strategy.
Here is what happened this morning. Sad stories ... 阅读全帖 |
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