v***s
发帖数: 4031 | 1 Tiger is -1 after 14 holes making his first bogey since May. |
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发帖数: 977 | 2 Tiger打了两次double bogey, 但Ishikawa打了3次birdie.有没有看转播的给讲讲怎么
回事。 |
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v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 3 325 yard par4,
在同一个球场打了8 次了， 第一次par, 2putt from about 17 feet.
以前在这个洞bogey都只有一个（是不是漏计了penalty?)， 其他全是 +2 +3 and more, 反正感
觉基本在此洞打暴。。。
有好的ball striking 还不够， club selection 也很重要, 面对water的50-100
yard swing很考验人。
用的club是： 5iron + 56wedge (partner 打的很快， 1 hour 25 min finish 9 hole
, 只好跟则快， 根本来不及用iphone测距， 回家积分测approach shot distance 是83吗， 70 yard to clear water).
pevious round from blue ( 343 yard, tee shot landed about same spot)
5iron + 60wedge (short of green into water and took triple) |
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O*****s
发帖数: 990 | 5 本来就不是平常人所以不能总是想洞洞保par基础上捉鸟。相信他本人也不希望自己只
是另一个Ernie Els或者Phil Michelson。就得要par4每洞求捉鸟，par5每洞求捉鹰。
所以从复出到再次成功的过程中的score card上必然是birdie和bogey混杂的。如果全
都是par反而才是没救了。 |
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发帖数: 4031 | 6 It doesn’t take long to improve your short game, excluding putting, if you are good at your long game. I know a teenage, almost 15. He just won a summer camp and a regional teen (14 to 16) golf competition, -4, and is qualified for the county competition. We played a game together three months ago. He shot in the high 70s and I did in the high 80s. I know he rarely practices his short game and putting and my short game is slightly better than his, kind of. To me, his short game is good enough f... 阅读全帖 |
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v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 7 长推 我用cristie kerr的tip, 靠肩膀的feel， 先看线，再看距离远近和坡度， 想象
球能走多远(feel speed),然后马上推。
5-8尺的短推很关键， 进了， 2putts, practice 从40-50 ft 有很多2putts. 但是
一不小心， 就3putts.
在场上， 我用心的时候， 还可以。匆忙或long game suck 影响心情， 也不行。
long game， 主要是稳定性太难有进步。我每次都能感觉到我动作中某个环节的变数 -
--- setup, grip, takeaway, backswing 的力度和速度， weight shift, arm torso
connection， 身体的松紧程度， 当然还有脑子清醒程度， 当时的性情（急躁还是耐
心）
golfing 时间长， swing文字的东西都基本懂， 但是我开始发现， 知道的tips, 往往
没有真正做到。 常常不知觉的乱调， 不利于动作的稳定。
you are good at your long game. I know a teenage, almost 15. He... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 10701 | 8 I finished with 81. 3 double-bogey at back-9 (we tee-ed off from back-9).
Thought I would have a close-to-pin at hole 4 - a 204-yard par 3. But
covered by the group behind (last group).
See Wes Short Jr., he just came here to collect money. |
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t***w
发帖数: 165 | 9 Wow! excellent score !! Clean! Only 3 bogeys on back 9. |
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t***w
发帖数: 165 | 10 Neonn, you should be able to break 85 your next round at this same course.
At your level, the two double on the two par 5s are just silly isn't it ?
Just lay up to your favorite distance (instead of going for it in two) and
you are guaranteed no worst than a bogey even if you 3-putted. |
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y***g
发帖数: 284 | 11 这次来美国的最后一场球。真是盲打啊，从第一洞到最后一洞，压根就看不见前面100
码的地方有什么。两次差点把前面的人打了，也有一次差点被后面的人打了（后面的球
飞来，砸在我手里的球杆上）。
也堵死了，每打一杆要等七八分钟。
不过这次打得真愉快，惊异地发现这还算一个真正的林克斯球场，土地超硬，球可以滚
上果岭（不过有的洞也不行，炮台果岭）。比起前些天打得那两个排名前一百的名场来
，这个球场的果岭推着更舒服，没有打孔。
不知道是否第一洞对着大雾把球放上球道给了我信心，昨天的状态也很好，6个开球上
球道，没上的也在旁边的rough里。打了4个Par，把三个birdie chance推成bogey。
再过三个小时就回家咯！ |
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v***s
发帖数: 4031 | 12 我以前200码以上的Par3都是用3H或2H，距离不是个问题，准确性差一些，而且球会飘
，往往落到果岭旁边最难打的地方，我倒是不怕这样的切球，但这样一般都是Bogey。
不过这样高的SlopeRating我还是没打过，估计难度相当高。
玩高球，就是打过的好球记得住，记得牢。我打过的坏球，无数，老是记不住，而且老
是犯同样的错误。
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v***s
发帖数: 4031 | 13 这种情况，一切两推是比较正常的，但即使成了，结果往往是Bogey。 |
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v***s
发帖数: 4031 | 14 467码的par4，我没有那个能力两杆上岭，不是说不可能，只是很容易暴打3W，造成的
后果很可怕。450码的par4, 要是开球好，会去用3W攻岭。最近的策略是长铁加LW，结
果都是Bogey，是我想要的。 |
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t*******t
发帖数: 1656 | 15 me too
carry distance (on range) only 180
on course only 210 total (one time 250 but it was going down slope)
if I play white tee that does not seem to be a problem since my goal is only
1.5 bogey average (or 99 total for par 72 18 holes)
however if I play blue tee then sometimes I feel how come the green is so
far far away ... |
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 16 yes. he was hot from #14 to #16, then missed a 9 feet for #17, and all of
sudden, he was cold again on #18 and bogey #18.
follow that, he tee off on #1, dont know why, the ball only went 160, and he
threw the driver on the ground, lucky he did not break the driver.
He is definitely struggling now. |
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发帖数: 10701 | 17 Got this email from the emaillist of Austin Golf Association. Besides the
point of fund raising, the other point is quite informative as well.
the toughest golf holes at Austin, Texas
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Scott Matheson is a local amateur that plays in a number of our events
around Austin. His daughter Mackenzie, who is 12 has Polycystic Kidney
Disease so that makes fundraising for this event close to his heart. On
October 27th he is setting out to fundraise for Polycystic Kidney Disease in
a v... 阅读全帖 |
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v***s
发帖数: 4031 | 18 破9进8的目标并不容易，这意味着大部分洞只能多打一杆，有一两洞要平标准杆。如果
开球没有开到球道上或攻岭有偏差，十有八九不能保证GIR，即使两推进洞，这就可能
已是Bogey。最快提高成绩的方法是减少推杆次数。我每一场比较满意的球，推球的次
数都不会多，一般少于36，有几次是32或33。当然，这跟我的切球有关。
除此之外，看看你每场球的统计，例如，开球开到球道的成功次数，球道木或混杆稳定
程度，攻岭的成功率，切球数量和一次切球成功率，以及推杆次数。找个比较容易提高
的去突破。 |
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t***u
发帖数: 2057 | 19 就在昨天，一个寒风习习落叶萧萧的秋日午后，我那几十载波澜不惊的人生终于迎来了
第一只小鸟，而且一来就是两只。一个在Handicap 1的四杆洞，一个在handicap 18的
三杆洞。
三杆洞的鸟是早就盼着的，只要开杆上果岭，总有机会不是。但这次是个果岭边的chip
in，算是意外之喜。
第四洞355码的四杆洞是最难的一个，两边都是密林子，右边大陡坡，fireway窄。果岭
在半坡上。对我而言，要完美的两杆才可能上。3wood开球slice，从坡上弹了一下，落
在Fireway一片裸露的硬泥地上，GPS显示还有180多，加上上坡，明显是我任何一根杆
子都reach不了的。带着layup的轻松用3hybird挥了一杆，眼见着奔果岭前的坡脚去了
。把cart停到果岭边，下去找球，看洞的正前方16feet处有个白球。第一反映是前边的
人太大意了，果岭上的球也不捡，回头一想不至于啊。上去一看，自己的球。大概是弹
道低，前冲大，从坡下一路连滚带爬上来的。仔细看线，推进了。这个洞我一向的希望
就是不罚杆，bogey，结果三杆累积的lucky整出个鸟来。可惜这个球在下一洞开球就直
接打飞了，应该当时... 阅读全帖 |
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t***u
发帖数: 2057 | 20 就在昨天，一个寒风习习落叶萧萧的秋日午后，我那几十载波澜不惊的人生终于迎来了
第一只小鸟，而且一来就是两只。一个在Handicap 1的四杆洞，一个在handicap 18的
三杆洞。
三杆洞的鸟是早就盼着的，只要开杆上果岭，总有机会不是。但这次是个果岭边的chip
in，算是意外之喜。
第四洞355码的四杆洞是最难的一个，两边都是密林子，右边大陡坡，fireway窄。果岭
在半坡上。对我而言，要完美的两杆才可能上。3wood开球slice，从坡上弹了一下，落
在Fireway一片裸露的硬泥地上，GPS显示还有180多，加上上坡，明显是我任何一根杆
子都reach不了的。带着layup的轻松用3hybird挥了一杆，眼见着奔果岭前的坡脚去了
。把cart停到果岭边，下去找球，看洞的正前方16feet处有个白球。第一反映是前边的
人太大意了，果岭上的球也不捡，回头一想不至于啊。上去一看，自己的球。大概是弹
道低，前冲大，从坡下一路连滚带爬上来的。仔细看线，推进了。这个洞我一向的希望
就是不罚杆，bogey，结果三杆累积的lucky整出个鸟来。可惜这个球在下一洞开球就直
接打飞了，应该当时... 阅读全帖 |
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 21 ok,
since i play both golf and tennis, let me say a bit more.
usta 5.0 is very good level to be, but it is still relatively easy to meet
players at 5.0 level. If you play around 4.5 or above in usta league, you
would occassionally play against 5.0 in doubles league.
5.0 definitely not upper bound of amature tennis. my guess would be at
least around 6.0
only the other hand, scratch player is about the upper bound of amature golf.
In general, sand bag players in tennis are those around 3.5, while... 阅读全帖 |
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u*********r
发帖数: 2735 | 22 have you given up being 执着?
bogey
quit
ball,
弹回
of |
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v***s
发帖数: 4031 | 23 你推切的策略是对的，业余的，能推尽量推。那一天我推球状态不好，10个GIR，九个
Par，一个Bogey，一个6尺球的Birdie都没推进。那一洞是第五个GIR，推球的信心没有
，只有切，切也切的不好。
3W，我是碰运气。运气好，能开个240到250码。状态是一场好，一场不好，一般不是攻
岭都还凑活，能放得开。 |
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v***s
发帖数: 4031 | 24 3W是我最没有把握的杆子，大部分时候都是碰运气。建议你还是带着3W，用它在Par5作
为一次练习。那一天，我430码以上的长Par4都没用3W，结果都是Bogey。
很高兴这些tips能派上用场，稳定driver可能还需要一段时间。270米就是300码，这种
球，练习场我是打不出来的，上个月两三次开出这样的距离，都是靠借风和借地形。
tendancies
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 25 i was on the course playing my own 18, while woods was playing.
i was told that Woods won by 1 on 18. I was like 有人放水了吧
but after watching the hight lights, i feel that is very unlikely. Yeah, ZJ
might not have strong desire to win as GM did. for the outcome as right now,
everyone is happy. He is not stupid enough to make everyone unhappy.
But Woods still need to make the two birdies. You and me, play golf, know
how hard it is to make a birdie, and two birdies in a row, that is really
something.... 阅读全帖 |
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v***s
发帖数: 4031 | 26 不还是想拿帕捉鸟吗。比较保险的打法是7i加SW，保Bogey的成功率比较高。另外，这
是个比较短的场子，6200多码，前九洞没有Par5, 到了这450码的第九洞，我还没有摸
过3W，手有点痒。 |
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 27 a bit of everything.
#5
one example:
新买的那根WEDGE，非常得意
最近一场球，547 PAR5，两杆好球之后，60 YARDS TO GREEN
拿出我得意的WEDGE，LANDED ON GREEN, CLOSE TO PIN，4SOME里面，我离洞最近。
朋友们夸我PITCHING的不错，我洋洋得意，SHOWOFF我的新杆
他们有一个CHIP UP AND DOWN，SAVE PAR，另外的LONG PUTT CLOSE，也PAR
最后是我，3-PUTT, THE ONLY BOGEY. |
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t*******t
发帖数: 1656 | 28 went to eagle ridge today.
was there on 8AM but did not get to tee up until 10AM because of frost delay
(26 degree F on 8AM)
Finished the round about 3:40PM, only had a hot dog along the way. Hungry to
death.
played white tee 6290 yards, 71.6/129
2 pars at two easy par 3s (One GIR with 2 putts, another one made a 20+ feet
putt)
2 bogeys, both par 4s
8 doubles,
4 triples
2 +4s
(3 penalty shots included)
Total 110, inline with my expectation for 1st time visit
In both the +4 cases, spent 3 shots i... 阅读全帖 |
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v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 29 太难了。scratch 要经常play under par 才行。
对青少年来说还可以往 scratch 看， 有时间有憧憬有身体。
过了25， bogey golfer 更加现实一些。
首先long game 稳定就很难，wedge + putting 看上去容易， 其实高水平也很难。
没看见pro 下来都说putting 如何如何不够好。 花时间也不一定能提高。 多了还可能
什么yip. 反而退步。
pro 的高水平是淘汰制程程选拔的结果。 |
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 30 仔细研究了一下这个场地
从SCORECARD上看，应该是不难
纸上谈兵一下：
#1，393，TEE LEFT，可以FADE一点，让球ROLL到240-250，140-150攻GREEN
#9，346，TEE STRAIGHT，留下100-110过水上GREEN
#18，423，TEE RIGHT，最好DRAW，下一杆190左右，HYBRID攻GREEN
当然#18是NO1 HANDI，肯定不能期待PAR，BOGEY就是胜利
这么打不需要直接CARRY230 OVER WATER
从RATING和SLOPE来看，GREEN应该不是很难 |
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发帖数: 382 | 31 我没好意识说我的18洞最好成绩，只有78。总有连续几个洞打不好。比如一出界，2杆
没有了。
Scratch Player 非常的难。我觉得至少有每轮打3到5个birdie的实力才行。我现在是
birdie靠碰。
不过最近基本消除了double Bogey，这样成绩基本稳定在low 80s. |
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t*******t
发帖数: 1656 | 32 The difference of swings between woods vs. irons is probably an old topic
and I've see people saying the swings are supposed to be the same.
However, this is what happened to me in the last week.
I had terrible woods shot especially 3 wood.My iron shot was ok. Last
weekend a guy gave me a tip to turn my right shoulder together with left
foot in downswing ...(I am right handed) this tip fixed my 3 wood instantly.
I was hitting 3 wood nice and easy at 180-190 yards. I was so happy. My
drive got im... 阅读全帖 |
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v***s
发帖数: 4031 | 33 Six three putts in a row; either you putted under tremendous pressure in the
game or something wrong with your putting routine. I had two three putts on
the Saturday’s game, two birdie chances ending with two bogeys. Three putts
often happens to me on a green in regulation.
groove
getting
for |
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 34 no, it was actually very relaxing round.
too relax, i almost didnt realize i was doing bad. it is a very typical my
round recently. normally, i would see my playmates are struggling from tee
to green. and on the green, it is my pay-back time for them. in the end, we
are all even, and everyone was happy.
I checked the result again, for those 6 3-putts, half of them are GIR, and
half of them are those I was expecting save from up and down.
last last week, the round with 50 putts, i had 8 GIR, only... 阅读全帖 |
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v***s
发帖数: 4031 | 35 Learned from the last year’s experience, as a weekend golfer, the more GIRs
I get, the more putts I will have, the more three putts I will get as well.
I usually don’t get many GIRs. Out of the last fours games, I had 5, 4(9
holes), 6 and 5(9 holes) GIRs, respectively, ending with 7, 7, 7 and 4 pars
or better, respectively. More than 50% of the pars or birdies came from the
effects of chipping close and one putting. While 2/5, 0/4, 3/6 and 2/5 GIRs
ended with bogey. Seems missing more greens wou... 阅读全帖 |
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v***s
发帖数: 4031 | 36 Six three putts in a row; either you putted under tremendous pressure in the
game or something wrong with your putting routine. I had two three putts on
the Saturday’s game, two birdie chances ending with two bogeys. Three putts
often happens to me on a green in regulation.
groove
getting
for |
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 37 no, it was actually very relaxing round.
too relax, i almost didnt realize i was doing bad. it is a very typical my
round recently. normally, i would see my playmates are struggling from tee
to green. and on the green, it is my pay-back time for them. in the end, we
are all even, and everyone was happy.
I checked the result again, for those 6 3-putts, half of them are GIR, and
half of them are those I was expecting save from up and down.
last last week, the round with 50 putts, i had 8 GIR, only... 阅读全帖 |
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v***s
发帖数: 4031 | 38 Learned from the last year’s experience, as a weekend golfer, the more GIRs
I get, the more putts I will have, the more three putts I will get as well.
I usually don’t get many GIRs. Out of the last fours games, I had 5, 4(9
holes), 6 and 5(9 holes) GIRs, respectively, ending with 7, 7, 7 and 4 pars
or better, respectively. More than 50% of the pars or birdies came from the
effects of chipping close and one putting. While 2/5, 0/4, 3/6 and 2/5 GIRs
ended with bogey. Seems missing more greens wou... 阅读全帖 |
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p****4
发帖数: 517 | 39 Thanks.
You can probably figure out that I did not usually escape with a bogey when
I missed green.:-( More often than I like, double.....
shots, |
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 40 (all yardage from Blue tee)
#1, the easiest opening hole, 331 par4, wide open fairway, Other than first
hole jitter, not much to worry. Drive as far as you can, if you are not
afraid of half/three-quater wedge shot. Otherwise, leave yourself 100 for
approaching.
#2, downhill 147 par3, straight forward, pick the right club for your
distance, the hole played as 5-10 yards short (due to the downhill) depends
on the wind.
#3, 362 par4, avoid right hand side, approaching the green from left side of
f... 阅读全帖 |
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D****V
发帖数: 461 | 41 291 par 4. 其实green is slightly curved on the right side from tee box, 右边
是个山坡, 山坡接着个大马路. 所以一般开球都是向左边的fairway, 第二杆才上green
. 偶一杆下去, 偏离了我既定的左倾路线,而是直直地象green 飞去, 看的不太清楚,想
想可能到山坡上了. 一路寻过去,额的神啊, 球居然在green 上, 而切在back edge of
green. 推了两杆进洞. 其他几洞都打的很烂,bogey 无数不提.哈哈. |
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c*****c
发帖数: 30 | 42 A & B Half the hole.
The net score for the hdp#1 hole for them are par, par, bogey, double
respectively.
A only gives a stroke to B on the hdp#12 hole. |
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g******s
发帖数: 211 | 43 Yani will pass-by Lorena, for sure.
In terms of height, both Yani and Lorana are only 5'6". I also noticed many
girls from Korea and Japan are only 5'1" or 5'2".
这让挣扎在BOGEY上下的5'7"男生,实在是汗颜...
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v***s
发帖数: 4031 | 45 你是问，我用哪根杆子开球吧？我是用driver。最近一段时间，我driver平均距离是
245码。四个洞后面的洞，有三个洞不是五杆，就是长四杆洞。我不想第一洞就很失败，所以
，即把这开球作为练习预热，也是根据我的强项，留下适当的距离。我100码到135码
approach shot比较好。像是昨天大风，我在这320码的开球，顶风，只走了180码，第
二杆上岭，三推。至于上一次打这三洞的结果，分别是
515码，GIR，Birdie
350码，9铁进沙坑,一切一推，Par
375码，顺风，SW打过头，Bogey
后面的第二洞我会按正常，或接近正常开球。 |
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v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 46 确实高球的乐趣就在于可以长期.进步会有的， 但是往往happen naturally or
unexpectedly. 跟生活中的很多事类似。
你320的开球拿bird了吗?
照例当我short par4 drove green 成功或很接近， 拍照纪念一下。
当时已经8点过一点了， 天几经很黑，看不清green。 可惜3putt.
google map based iphone golf gps 落点测距 直线270多。 打了个fade,落在rough,
估计有260-270的 carry。 high 100 or 110mph club head speed.
最后一洞 #9，天完全黑了， 373y par4 uphill, PW 开球， + 8iron, + LW, 根本看
不见球飞的路线。 完全靠想打的路线找球， 结果都找到了。hole high back green
side rough. chip down slope off green. 本来以为可以搞个bogey /or double 收场
， 结果triple. 不过昨天一球没丢，ball striking 而言，... 阅读全帖 |
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v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 47 each golfer will have to find his best style after a while.i sometimes try
both agressive and conservative. sometimes agressive works, sometimes
conversative works.
i totally agree with your strategy about par5. recently i did twice manage
to get to green side rough on short par5, one is 505 or so with 3wood,
another is 476 or so with 6iron. each time i was excited about my first
birdie chance on par5. but it turned out both times, the pitch/chip from
green side rough were tough, either because... 阅读全帖 |
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v***s
发帖数: 4031 | 48 I agree to you long irons are so hard to hit well for most weekend’s
golfers like you and me. For a few months, I did well with my long irons
when I had trouble hitting my driver. With my improving driving, I started
using long irons less and less. For any par 4s within 400 yards, I use 9i or
shorter ones for most of my second shots. For a long par 4, most likely I
will use 3W or 3H for the green approach.
As for any fairway bunker shots, my goal is to get the ball out of bunkers.
Wedges, short ... 阅读全帖 |
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f*t
发帖数: 382 | 49 To me bunker shot is a easier shot if you do it right. Open the club face,
hinge the wrist, hit behind the ball, use club bounce to pop the club and
ball out. It more forgiving than some other types of shots.
Set you expectation right, you just need to get the ball out to green from a
green side bunker. that's not tough. If you expect you can save a up and
down from bunker, that's not easy. Accept a bogey and it's not a bad score
at all.
with that expectation in mind, accutally I have a decent b... 阅读全帖 |
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t*******t
发帖数: 1656 | 50 Here is my distance table, all measured at a grass tee range with range
balls. The ground is between fairway and rough conditions. So on real course
I am actually a few yards longer if I get a nice impact (but can also be
less when the shot is bad)
equipment: Taylormade R7 XD Stiff
(all carry distances)
Driver: 190-200
3W:170
5W: 150
4H: 140
5I: 120-130
6I: 110-120
7I: 110
8I: 100
I feel my distance are 40 yards less than what it should be.
With this table, bogey for par 4s and par for par 5s a... 阅读全帖 |
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