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p**********t
发帖数: 2636
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来自主题: Outdoors版 - 还是leading爽啊
你们PNW那边crack,chimney多,overhang少,gym里leading多是overhang,正好弥补
了outdoor缺少的东西。
z*********n
发帖数: 94654
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来自主题: Outdoors版 - 被打击了
那块石头的特点就是比较slippery
上次在那first lead, lead了一个5.5 一个5.6的,觉得很难,当时觉得是不是因为自己
第一次lead的原因,结果那有个老头不停地freesolo地说,这个石头是非常slippery
他有朋友能5.10 free solo的来拜访他去那玩,free solo了一半,赶紧下来了,
说要belay,脚下滑,害怕,呵呵
我第一次去那的时候在唯一一个能他设top rope的地方tr了一个5.10A的路线,简直痛
苦死了
就是没手点没脚点。纯粹是peer pressure 被逼上去了否则晚上睡不着觉
我觉得那个地方挺适合练习friction climb的
你们那次本来说要带我去的malibu creek后来改成point dume,那个地方是完全另一种
石头
特别奇怪,长得很难看,全部overhang,非常大的pocket,对于练习overhang也不错
stoney point又都是vertical sandstone,又是另一种感觉,四处爬爬体验不同的石头
挺好
x******n
发帖数: 1328
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来自主题: Outdoors版 - 被打击了
根据我在网上看的图片和我回国的经历,好像中国国内都很崇尚overhang的
哪位在国内爬得多的来证实或者证伪一下。
我最怕overhang的了,最喜欢dihedral的。可能是我平衡较差,而dihedral
平衡起来最容易吧。
z*********n
发帖数: 94654
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来自主题: Outdoors版 - 终于。。。。。
现在想想也未必,overhang的路线反而手点会大,真的爬的技巧
也不比普通10B难
手点再小在overhang估计就5.11了
z*********n
发帖数: 94654
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来自主题: Outdoors版 - 终于。。。。。
?什么大环吊着,没听懂
overhang不是overhand
overhang简单点的路线,其实还是balance为主,再高难的,估计就哪的力量都重要了
指力为主,指力=小臂
你要是刚开始爬,就强调指力,误区啊,呵呵,balance比空连力量重要多了
多爬慢慢力量自然上来了
真需要连指力否则上不去的据说要5.11以上的了
之前的都能用技巧克服的
z*********n
发帖数: 94654
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来自主题: Outdoors版 - 今晚终于能睡着了,哈哈
【 以下文字转载自 IronMountain 俱乐部 】
发信人: zhanglaosan (张老三), 信区: IronMountain
标 题: 今晚终于能睡着了,哈哈
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Aug 2 21:24:37 2009, 美东)
上周和motif等人去爬墙,一个overhang的,就是以前那个
gym里不认识的人好多肌肉男女轮流爬都上不去的,我还继续想bso
跟motif说,他们肌肉男女都上不去,我们技术型的就行
当然某女先上的,很轻松,gym里其他人看着都在感叹
she makes it look so easy
然后我也很得意得上,这个在我受伤以前就是热身的路线
结果连上三次没上去,郁闷得晚上睡不着觉,这也忒退步了
今天终于感觉又恢复了,继续轻松上那个路线,并其他的5.10A/B overhang
路线较轻松搞定,感觉基本回到伤前水平了,终于可以睡个安稳觉了,呵呵
p**********t
发帖数: 2636
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来自主题: Outdoors版 - climb like a girl
Go to motherlode in RRG and see what is "大的overhang", or any of the
limestone caves that are dotted with 5.13s and 5.14s.
RRG is famous for overhang routes. You can climb a 5.9 big roof and get
really scared on routes such as "creature feature". Only one 5.9 move on the
entire roof but you're under a big roof and completely cannot see anything
above you
p*****o
发帖数: 1285
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来自主题: Outdoors版 - 问题:如何提高攀岩时的footwork?
上周在gym的时候,先爬了一条轻微overhang的路线,到最后的crux 胳膊酸到一点没法
用力,没有过去。后来爬了好几条垂直的路线,基本上能做到胳膊不用力,快走的时候
以为胳膊已经恢复过来了,再去试刚开始那个路线,结果爬了不到五米就怕不动了。
我的问题是,在轻度overhang的路线上有没有办法胳膊不用力只靠腿和脚?
s****t
发帖数: 746
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来自主题: Outdoors版 - 问题:如何提高攀岩时的footwork?
他说的和我说的不矛盾啊,基本上我们说的是对你爬overhang都有帮助,
但互相不影响的的两件事。
手伸直,身体也可以贴上去啊,肩部稍微lay back一点而已。
把你想象的那个弓形反过来,肚皮贴上岩壁去就对了。
弯着胳膊耗的是肌肉力量,很容易累,
拉直了靠bone structure来hold体重就省劲多了,
你下次去gym可以找个overhang的boudering area试一试。

f********t
发帖数: 4574
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来自主题: Outdoors版 - 问题:如何提高攀岩时的footwork?
Overhang掌握技巧了并非很难,同一级别里overhang的手点脚垫相对较大,主要是
1. Keep arms straight,even if this means you have to bend your legs and
body
2. Use your legs. As you go up, you should load and also feel your legs go from bent to straight. The hand holds should come to you as you go.
3. Turn you hip
p**********t
发帖数: 2636
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来自主题: Outdoors版 - 一组爬墙照片
I was joking with a friend a couple weeks ago about running laps. I ran four
laps on the crack without resting (it was a slightly overhang crack), and
only stopped because I didn't tape my hands and I don't want to fall. I
secretly thinking that a really old and good climber in my gym finally
decided to take me out and teach me crack climbing after watching me racing
up the crack. He told me that he's impressed :)
Hand crack, if not flaring and not too overhang, is a piece of cake to me
now. Usu
w***y
发帖数: 1313
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来自主题: Outdoors版 - 用REI20%off的酷胖买了双爬墙鞋
i agree that height in general doesn't make much difference in gym toprope
or outdoor routes; disadvantages(shorter) and advantages(lighter; high steps
) might cancel out. i'm short, i feel reachy is a problem mostly in
bouldering when i have to dyno in overhanging walls
i have a climbing friend 25cm taller than me. i climbed at least 1 number
harder than him (onsight/redpoint, slab/overhang, gym/outdoor, whatever),
but there are some reachy v2s he did that i could never make to the top
p****n
发帖数: 109
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来自主题: Outdoors版 - 庆祝搞定第一个V7
回忆一下这个V7:
前天gym刚更新了一面墙,是我最喜欢的那种,overhang,而且有些类似highball.然后
花了一晚上clean了所有V5以下的problem。昨天晚上又去了,但是没打算seriously
climbing,就是准备活动活动,跟别人聊聊,因为想休息一下手腕。但是临走的时候又
有些手痒,于是就试了一下这个V7。头一次感觉没戏,但是又琢磨了一下,觉得不是不
可能。
这个V7是overhang,前5个move是crimp,非常technical,需要手指和core,然后是个
right hand pinch,再之后是pinch on sloper.但是这个sloper hold非常远,我个子小
,得做类似dyno才能够到,这样我就得两脚悬空,两手pinch hard。我前两次都有些犹
豫,因为这个位置离地面已经很高了,虽然下面的垫子很厚,但是从那里掉下来还是不
爽,所以我没有尽力。第三次我try to commit to the move,居然没掉下来!再之后
找到一个foot chip踩上去,斜掉一部分手上的承重,然后再commit to another move
T*********e
发帖数: 39815
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来自主题: Outdoors版 - cheap cragging rope @ REI outlet
not sure about the place you crag, but usually, we don't crag in rain, since
we rarely climb overhang route

rope
overhang
f********t
发帖数: 4574
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来自主题: Outdoors版 - cheap cragging rope @ REI outlet
I heard Red has great overhange routes, you barely get wet even when it is
heavy downpour.

rope
overhang
m****g
发帖数: 3975
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来自主题: Outdoors版 - 2011 Green River -- Utah 漂流召集贴
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/Outdoors/31356389.html
NP给我寄来了PACKAGE和申请PERMIT正式资料(已拿到名额) 目前BASIN积雪是去年同期
的520%,而去年8/1日流量是450(最小RUN YAMPA的量), 这基本保证我们有水可RUN, 8/1
附近RUN的可能性>98%.
YAMPA CANYON美的让人窒息
Hula at the Grand Overhang
Swimmin Hole
Warm Springs
Box Elder Beach
Yampa River
Anderson hole
Anderson Hole on the Yampa
Harding Hole
Yampa Cliffs
Wagon Wheel Point
The Great Overhang
Steamboat Rock in Echo Park
p**********t
发帖数: 2636
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臂力和footwork都有关系。爬overhang的时候尤其容易在胳膊上较劲而忽视了footwork
其实我很喜欢overhang,安全,不怕lead fall,可以很舒服地push limit。
S********t
发帖数: 18987
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阿拉斯加什么都贵。要么啥都别干,要么就被宰。自己太贪玩,意志又薄弱,于是频频上当。只好悻悻然逐一反省,后人若能吸取教训,免去上当之苦,也算一大快慰。
阿拉斯加上当记(1)--- Ice Ice Baby
Ice Ice baby, 汽车漂移着在阿拉斯加一号公路上猛飙的时候,突然前方出现了一马冰川,这句歌词禁不住飘了出来。
游记并不按照日程流水写下,请原谅有些意识流,这是我们行程的第二天了,昨晚扎营在Grand View Cafe & RV Park(参见地图),
今天的目标是参加Mica Guide的Matanuska Glacier攀冰
换上装备行走在冰川瓦砾上,其实沙土下面就是冰川,你不攀冰的话也可以参加HIKING的游程
这里有一处有趣的果冻布丁,不过如果没有向导不要离开TRAIL乱走,这里也有陷人的泥沼
在美丽的冰川湖前,我们开始设置攀冰线路,那些黑色纵横交错的纹路是冰缝开合有灰沙进入造成的。
转战另一个冰缝,天开始时不时的下起雨来。
最后我们迎来了上当的最后一条线路,冰河
冰河水流淌在切出的狭逢里,跌落到一个不知道多深的冰洞中,轰窿作响,同一个锚点,可以有左中右三个线路,... 阅读全帖
z*******y
发帖数: 126
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来自主题: Outdoors版 - 攀岩是不是容易伤肩膀

那为什么不是13a,正好就是11a呢?
定级系统是个比较系统,没有比较就没有定级。 所以出发点是非常主观的。我爬了一
辈子
overhang,爬到13了,你给我一个slab 10a我也上不去啊。 然后我就说这是14的线。
一个
没有大肌肉群的女生,爬11d的slab, 拿到一个gunks的10屋檐也上不去,就是拉不了
引体,就是
挂不了脚,然后说是12的线?
我个人不认为有什么样的fitness limit。 有两个很好的例子,Rumney waimea的big
kahuna, 5.12d/5.13a,这是对爆发力要求很高的一条线,一个只能爬5.12的女生,基
本不可能
完成这条线,就一个难点v6/v7的动作。 Joshua tree的battle of bulge, 5.11d,我
也相信一个爬limestone 5.13的人,不花1个月时间,也基本不可能完成这条线,全程
难点,最难
的overhang slab,踩blot去吧。
跑题了,和受伤无关。 我觉得有伤最好问医生。网上问的偏方不能全信,别人的经验
也不会全对。
p**********t
发帖数: 2636
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来自主题: Outdoors版 - accident report
I was leading the second pitch of Good Tang (3-pitch 5.7 trad) at the Lower
Small Wall as my warm-up, when a hand hold broke and I fell about 30 ft
upside-down, hitting my head and shoulder on the rock. I was conscious but I
couldn’t stop screaming for the first half minute or so. I must have hit
something sharp since my helmet was cut through and blood was dripping out
of my hair. Matt lowered me to the ground. I sat on the ground for about
half an hour before my head stopped bleeding. My left ... 阅读全帖
o*****e
发帖数: 379
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来自主题: Outdoors版 - [TR] Monkey Face / Pioneer Route
周末终于如愿所偿,摸了一把猴子脑袋,嘻嘻。跟Cory说以前每次跟各色人等来,总要
望猴兴叹一番,Cory说以后再来看猴子,就可以跟别人说爬上去过啦,哈哈。一共四个
人爬的,Mike和Cory都是很有经验的Aid and Big Wall climber,俺是第一次在真正的
石头上aid,Mike的儿子Alex穿了一件攀岩比赛的衣服,爬得不错,一路都是他lead。
星期五晚上开车到营地都11点半了,摸黑搭好帐篷,星期六上午迷迷糊糊的爬起来,收
拾东西,6点40左右从停车场出发的时候,停车场里还只有我们两辆车。从Misery
Ridge那条路走的,爬的累死了,呼呼。从猴子嘴巴到Misery Ridge上架了一条runner
,据说昨天有人不带保护的在上面走来走去,还做了单腿跪下等高难动作。Alex给我看
了那个家伙昨天的录像,crazy…
到了猴子脚下,把东西重新归整好,大概8点开始爬的。我们一共带了3根绳子,两根70
米,一根60米的。70米的绳子是可以把底下两个pitch连成一个爬的,不过Mike怕
communication不方便,还是爬了两个。第一个pitch除了起步是一个比较大的... 阅读全帖
S********t
发帖数: 18987
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【 以下文字转载自 Outdoors 讨论区 】
发信人: SurfingCat (冲浪肥猫|El gato sobre las olas del mar), 信区: Outdoors
标 题: 阿拉斯加上当记(1)--- Ice Ice Baby
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Feb 4 15:23:55 2011, 美东)

阿拉斯加什么都贵。要么啥都别干,要么就被宰。自己太贪玩,意志又薄弱,于是频频上当。只好悻悻然逐一反省,后人若能吸取教训,免去上当之苦,也算一大快慰。
阿拉斯加上当记(1)--- Ice Ice Baby
Ice Ice baby, 汽车漂移着在阿拉斯加一号公路上猛飙的时候,突然前方出现了一马冰川,这句歌词禁不住飘了出来。
游记并不按照日程流水写下,请原谅有些意识流,这是我们行程的第二天了,昨晚扎营在Grand View Cafe & RV Park(参见地图),
今天的目标是参加Mica Guide的Matanuska Glacier攀冰
换上装备行走在冰川瓦砾上,其实沙土下面就是冰川,你不攀冰的话也可以参加HIKING的游程
这里有一处有趣的... 阅读全帖
b******k
发帖数: 1874
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so, if i am going to ligate two tandem short fragments (say, 50bp each):
synthesize 50nt oligo of Sense and antisense (with 5' phosphate group modifi
cation),
anneal them by boiling and cooling naturally,
then ligate the annealed fragments (ideally, with synthesizd 3' overhang fro
m first one, and 5' overhang from 2nd)by conventional T4 ligase system?
thanks.
e****l
发帖数: 204
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来自主题: Biology版 - 请问版上有做LIC的吗?
我们的反应主要依靠引物上的序列产生长的单链 overhang
而引物二聚体也能产生相同的 overhang,会引入假阳性
大片段我们也较难连上
s******n
发帖数: 47
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来自主题: Biology版 - 菜鸟请教 RNA-seq
看到一个protocol, 不太理解这句话
Illumina adapters with T-overhangs and customized to include 3-nt “barcodes
” were ligated to the cDNA?
请问Illumina adapters with T-overhangs and customized to include 3-nt “
barcodes” 是不是就是可以直接order的barcoded adapter??
谢谢!!
y*****1
发帖数: 73
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来自主题: Biology版 - 克隆失败了
科普了。
但是查了一下貌似有好几个版本:最早的是96年那个用3bp overhang pcr, 然后
有人用restriction sites的overhang pcr然后切vector, 再后来有人连vector都批(
一共4个pcr)。。。请问你用的是什么protocol啊 可否借鉴?还有效率
高么? 谢谢
a*******a
发帖数: 4233
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来自主题: Biology版 - 急问一个克隆弱问题
如果没理解错, 你的意思是这样的吧
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
3" overhang是没有办法补的。
能做的就是用KOD plus之类的高保真PCR酶或者klenow把overhang切掉,然后直接连接
或者用普通PCR酶加A以后做TAclone
一般按照PCR体系不加primer, 95度hotstart5min, 然后分别68/72度保温10min就可以
我是懒得用klenow的。。
z*********n
发帖数: 94654
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well, as for conclution, mine is:
you have to practice overhang no matter what. if
you want to serios rockclimbing, sooner or later,
you'll face it. This planet of the aptes wall is
very good for practice overhang routes
a***a
发帖数: 40617
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来自主题: _IronMountain版 - 握力果然有进步
我刚在40min内,连续overhang平移
VB 2条线路一共加起来爬了6,7次。4个都是坐起
看了录像以后开始体会如何在overhang的时候伸直手臂挂住省力气了
今天过度了,要检讨
5点进的gym,1小时20min weight lifting,然后40min跑步
回来吃饭,喝水,去车里拿鞋,40min
然后又回gym爬墙。。。
z*********n
发帖数: 94654
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来自主题: _IronMountain版 - 握力果然有进步
overhang的估计5分钟就死了
但是gym大,有的是非overhang的section
z*********n
发帖数: 94654
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来自主题: _IronMountain版 - 大家都在爬山
我还是爬墙
说说昨天的流程:
早上,去planet of the apes wall
背着绳子去的,结果地方被占,假装观看,绳子主发现口水状

you are free to jump on
就等这句呢,然后假装道谢一番,就去爬了。
这次,最左边那个overhang 5.9,start也没作弊,用了较难的
overhang办法start没有作弊绕路。(其实肌肉fresh的时候不难)
然后最后那个crux也终于攻破。但还是hang了很久。
(某人依旧第一次实验就稍微hang了一下就上去了,很牛)
就一个route下来胳膊就酸得不行了。然后又用右边一个人的
绳子又爬了一个路线,开始以为是这个路线右边相邻的那个10A
的,后来才发现那个路线没绳子,这个是更右边一个10B的路线。
当然胳膊没劲,尝试多次,失败(这种路线非常需要肌肉耐力)
然后,基本上,大老远跑过去,也几乎就这么着了。
上次去其实耗费几乎一天,也就是爬了两三下。于是决定回家路上
接着去point dume
然后在那lead。 point dume的路线,lead起来还是非常有趣的,
我有过那次fall的心理阴影,上得是胆战心惊
z*********n
发帖数: 94654
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来自主题: _IronMountain版 - 今晚终于能睡着了,哈哈
上周和motif等人去爬墙,一个overhang的,就是以前那个
gym里不认识的人好多肌肉男女轮流爬都上不去的,我还继续想bso
跟motif说,他们肌肉男女都上不去,我们技术型的就行
当然某女先上的,很轻松,gym里其他人看着都在感叹
she makes it look so easy
然后我也很得意得上,这个在我受伤以前就是热身的路线
结果连上三次没上去,郁闷得晚上睡不着觉,这也忒退步了
今天终于感觉又恢复了,继续轻松上那个路线,并其他的5.10A/B overhang
路线较轻松搞定,感觉基本回到伤前水平了,终于可以睡个安稳觉了,呵呵
B*Z
发帖数: 7062
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来自主题: _Auto_Fans版 - 怎样理解Volvo的Spa platform?
看看下面的说法:
SPA allows Volvo to build vehicles that share components and manufacturing p
rocesses but have different wheelbases, front and rear overhangs, and cowl a
nd roof heights. The one dimension that is fixed across all SPA vehicles, ho
wever, is dash-to-axle, and this is the key to the S90’s upscale ambition.
“Luxury starts with proportion,” says Volvo senior design director Tisha J
ohnson. Compared with the old S80, the S90’s front axle has been pushed for
ward more than 7 inches, and the f... 阅读全帖
q********g
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来自主题: _pennystock版 - 又一篇pump文章,关于SRPT
观点很象这里Jenny12以前说的。从中也学习到一些分析医药股的方法。例文欣赏。
http://seekingalpha.com/article/895051-sarepta-therapeutics-loo
Sarepta Therapeutics Looks Highly Undervalued
September 28, 2012 | 37 commentsby: Sean Anderson | about: SRPT
R.S. Analytics wrote up the long case for Sarepta Therapeutics (SRPT)
earlier this month here. I agree with that thesis, and won't bore everyone
by repeating it here since R.S. did such a great job telling it already.
There are, however, a few points that I'd like to expand on.
In ... 阅读全帖
c*******r
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来自主题: _Climbing版 - 3rd rock climbing at Red River Gorge
I struggle on 5.8 overhangs. I can hardly do 5.9 overhangs cleanly. There
must be something that I am missing. My arms are not that weak.
c*******r
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来自主题: _Climbing版 - Climbing at Frenchman Coulee
Spent yesterday climbing at Frenchman Coulee in central Washington. The area
has about 660 routes spreaded over 20+ walls. We spent the whole day at The
Feathers, did 13 routes, one of which is a trad (my second trad lead, yay!)
and the rest are sport.
*Notch Route 5.6, TR
*Altar of Sacrifice 5.7, Lead (My note: crux at the overhang betweern clip 3
and 4)
*Shake It Don’t Break It 5.5, Lead
*Mandatory Suicide 5.4, TR (My note: underrated for a 5.4, slight overhang i
n one place)
*Get the Pever Fe
G**Y
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来自主题: ChinaNews版 - Buffet牛呀
。。。
“We could have a cash for clunkers program on housing. If we would blow up
3 or 4 million houses today, the housing shortage would be over... if you
have an inventory overhang. You have to have demand be greater than supply
for a significant period of time. And we're well on our way to that."
。。。
Buffet是支持给富人抽税的。全世界任何一个角落,似乎都是富人比穷人税率低呀。
w*******r
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没看到你说的这个人。麻烦你给个出处
Traffic Lights
The world's first traffic lights were installed near London's House of
Commons (intersection of George and Bridge Streets) in 1868. They were
invented by J P Knight.
Among the many early traffic signals or lights created the following are
noted:
Earnest Sirrine of Chicago, Illinois patented (976,939) perhaps the first
automatic street traffic system in 1910. Sirrine's system used the non
illuminated words "stop" and "proceed".
Lester Wire of Salt Lake City, Utah ... 阅读全帖
W*****B
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When China stumbles, the world economy will shudder
Napoleon famously observed that when China awoke from its long slumber the
world would shake.
Now that the Chinese economy has certainly awoken, were he alive today
Napoleon might have warned that when the Chinese economy stumbles the rest
of the world’s economy will also suffer. He might have done so particularly
because there are all too many reasons to believe that China will soon
begin a renewed and lengthy period of economic stagnation.
Ju... 阅读全帖
l****z
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Déjà Vu Pension Woes
Going into debt to fund pensions seems like a ridiculous thing to do,
especially for a company had a chance to shed more of those pension
obligations in bankruptcy.
Please consider the Wall Street Journal story GM Wants to Up Credit Line
General Motors Co. is in preliminary talks with banks to potentially
double its $5 billion line of credit as the auto maker looks to strengthen
its balance sheet and shrink pension obligations, according to people with
knowledge of the d... 阅读全帖
l****z
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来自主题: USANews版 - U.S. economy slowed in fourth quarter
(Reuters) - U.S. economic growth braked more sharply than initially thought
in the fourth quarter amid a moderate increase in business inventories and a
wider trade deficit, but strong domestic demand brightened the outlook.
Gross domestic product expanded at a 2.2 percent annual pace, revised down
from the 2.6 percent pace estimated last month, the Commerce Department said
on Friday. The economy grew at a 5 percent rate in the third quarter.
Growth is poised to pick up in the first quarter now ... 阅读全帖
v********7
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完全克服不可能,但最新的a4 b8据说已经改进不少了,外观上可以看出前轴已经更靠近车头了
When compared to the previous model, the all-new 2009 Audi A4 features entirely new, sportier proportions. Overall length is up nearly five inches and width has been increased by more than two inches. The wheelbase has been stretched, and the hood is longer. The front body overhang has been shortened, allowing the wheels to be pushed further to the edge of the vehicle. For better balance and handling, Audi has swapped the location of the differential ... 阅读全帖
v********7
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看上去很nb,crown vic超长的overhang我很喜欢
t****0
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SRX的确好看。
ML350 2012款的好看。2011差点了,车身有点短,屁股有点翘,比例上稍稍欠缺了一点
儿。
我倒觉得Q5的屁股非常好看,尤其喜欢short overhang。新款X3的屁股也不错,更有线
条,硬朗。在2012 X3面前,Q5没什么优势。Q7怎么看屁股都不对。
路虎真的不好看,我不喜欢轮距短的车。
t****0
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SRX的确好看。
ML350 2012款的好看。2011差点了,车身有点短,屁股有点翘,比例上稍稍欠缺了一点
儿。
我倒觉得Q5的屁股非常好看,尤其喜欢short overhang。新款X3的屁股也不错,更有线
条,硬朗。在2012 X3面前,Q5没什么优势。Q7怎么看屁股都不对。
路虎真的不好看,我不喜欢轮距短的车。
v********7
发帖数: 426
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来自主题: Automobile版 - 也来说说TORSEN-C四驱
顶一下技术贴,torsen看来是一般情况下雪地驾驶的不二选择
不过从性能角度来讲,audi车最不理想的一点是头重脚轻,就是因为个中差在前轴,导
致发动机在前轴上方甚至前方,从过弯的角度来讲是很不理想的。仔细观察双b的前轮
和audi的前轮会发现audi的overhang几乎和家美丽,阿靠的这种买菜车一样长,双b则
紧贴车头。话说a4 b8已经改进了,不过想从根本上克服还是困难
v********7
发帖数: 426
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来自主题: Automobile版 - 也来说说TORSEN-C四驱
顶一下技术贴,torsen看来是一般情况下雪地驾驶的不二选择
不过从性能角度来讲,audi车最不理想的一点是头重脚轻,就是因为个中差在前轴,导
致发动机在前轴上方甚至前方,从过弯的角度来讲是很不理想的。仔细观察双b的前轮
和audi的前轮会发现audi的overhang几乎和家美丽,阿靠的这种买菜车一样长,双b则
紧贴车头。话说a4 b8已经改进了,不过想从根本上克服还是困难
V***b
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E46的bonnet太短了,显得过于平庸,像捷达,应该再张扬一些。而且我不喜欢E46过短
的front overhang。车身侧面的线条也太直了。F30明显拉长了bonnet,略微向上隆起
,有点儿像mustang的感觉,但又不像mustang一样毫无保留地肌肉外露,在这一点上比
E46好太多了,可惜那条横线我真的需要时间适应。
V***b
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预算10万一分不能多的话我还是选911 Carrera S (991)。外形比997好:wheelbase加
长4寸,overhang更短,front track加宽2寸,屁股不像997那么尖(不过还是像龟,有
人说像鸭屁股)。估计Porsche也感觉到了这么多年自己长得其实不怎么好看。全新底
盘,又从高端turbo,GT3借鉴了些技术,基本是舒适和运动的最佳平衡了。争议最大的
是用了electromechanical power steering。4S (991)也会很好。
10万往下GT-R,10万往上R8。其他没了。
y***g
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来自主题: Automobile版 - 如何识穿伪装的前驱车
是前悬(Front Overhang),不是前悬挂(Front Suspension)。
后驱车的前悬挂都比较短。不过也有脑残的设计,而且还颇为流行了一段时间。就是早
期的 Muscle car。这些早期的Muscle car前悬剧长,无论是发动机位置,还是前后重
量分布,几乎都是按前驱车来设计的。比如早期的 Chevy Camaro, Pontiac Firebird
,Ford Mustang等。这个设计居然从60年代一直用到本世纪初。当然,这些车的最新款
已经改过来了。
这也说明当年的美国车就是一个字:糙。不光质量糙,而且设计都糙。难怪80年代以后
被日车打得落花流水。。。
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