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K****N
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来自主题: WebRadio版 - Tom Wiats on NPR now
Tom Waits Face To The Highway
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJUwowZITSw
Tom Waits - New Year's Eve
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Bdshp6hqhs
“New Year’s Eve”
The door was open I was seething
Your mother burst in it was freezing
She said it looks like it’s trying to rain
I was lost I felt sea sick
You convinced me that he’d left
You said keep talking but don’t use any names
I scolded your driver and your brother
We are all old enough to know how long you’ve been hooked
And we’ve all been throug... 阅读全帖
K****N
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来自主题: WebRadio版 - Tom Wiats on NPR now
Tom Waits Face To The Highway
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJUwowZITSw
Tom Waits - New Year's Eve
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Bdshp6hqhs
“New Year’s Eve”
The door was open I was seething
Your mother burst in it was freezing
She said it looks like it’s trying to rain
I was lost I felt sea sick
You convinced me that he’d left
You said keep talking but don’t use any names
I scolded your driver and your brother
We are all old enough to know how long you’ve been hooked
And we’ve all been throug... 阅读全帖
a****e
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来自主题: EnglishChat版 - sonnet 42
That thou hast her, it is not all my grief,
And yet it may be said I lov'd her dearly;
That she hath thee, is of my wailing chief,
A loss in love that touches me more nearly.
Loving offenders, thus I will excuse ye:
Thou dost love her, because thou know'st I love her;
And for my sake even so doth she abuse me,
Suffering my friend for my sake to approve her.
If I lose thee, my loss is my love's gain.
And losing her, my friend hath found that loss;
Both find each other, and I lose both twain,
And
a*****e
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来自主题: EnglishChat版 - The Elements of Style - I
I Elementary Rules of Usage
1. Form the possessive singular of nouns by adding 's.
Follow this rule whatever the final consonant. Thus write,
Charles's friend
Burns's poems
the witch's malice
Exceptions are the possessives of ancient proper names ending in -es and
-is, the possessive Jesus', and such forms as for conscience' sake, for
righteousness' sake. But such forms as Moses' Laws, Isis' temple are commonly
replaced by
the laws of Moses
the temple of Isis
The p
u*****d
发帖数: 1009
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来自主题: EnglishChat版 - For the seek of simplicity, ....
i think you're trying to say "for the sake of simplicity"
it's "sake", not "seek"
C**m
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来自主题: Joke版 - Re: 炫耀罂粟花的人权
【 以下文字转载自 ChinaNews 讨论区 】
发信人: hatebay (zhizhi), 信区: ChinaNews
标 题: Re: 炫耀罂粟花的人权
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Nov 10 17:36:53 2010, 美东)
That's because you guys only stayed in America, and you didn't come to
England. let me tell yah, when I was america, I was as arrogant as you guys;
but after I moved to England, I learned what is courtesy, and I also
learned they weared poppet every autumn until the mid November, to remember
people died in WWI. So I think he didn't do anything wrong, as a leader,
first ... 阅读全帖
D*****r
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来自主题: Joke版 - Planet without laughter
I. The Modern Period
Once upon a time there was a universe. In this universe there was a planet.
On this planet there was virtually no laughter. Nothing like ``humor'' was
really known. People never laughed, nor jested, nor kidded, nor joked, nor
anything like that. The inhabitants were extremely serious, conscientious,
sincere, hard-working, studious, well wishing, and moral. But of humor they
knew nothing. All except for a small minority who had some feeling for what
humor was. These people oc... 阅读全帖
z********6
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来自主题: Love版 - 我和穆斯林女孩的事情
古兰经有164处关于对异教徒发动圣战(jihad)的描述
The Koran's 164 Jihad Verses
K 2:178-179
Set 1, Count 1+2 [2.178] O you who believe! retaliation is prescribed for
you in the matter of the slain, the free for the free, and the slave for
the slave, and the female for the female, but if any remission is made to
any one by his (aggrieved) brother, then prosecution (for the bloodwit)
should be made according to usage, and payment should be made to him in a
good manner; this is an alleviation from your Lord and a mer... 阅读全帖
y******n
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Just take it easy yo...
So big Fing deal, why follow other's rhythm on how to live your own life.
Just mate with whoever you feel like whenever you feel like. (Yup, i used
the verb mate)
So Male A was asking how you travel around. Why don't you tell him your real
style? Perhaps you like
traveling on Foot? By Plane? on bloody space plane? I mean for christ sake
you LIE to get this 'loser' of
yours attention, my GOD you are desperate? Heck, chinese guy do that too,
fair game there.
I mean I can s... 阅读全帖
s****y
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The same argument can be used against the reward of heaven/threat of hell, which is simply "conditional love". The real love from God (and parents as well) is unconditional with no strings attached; and the real virtue should be virtue for virtue's sake rather than virtue for rewards' sake.
【 以下文字转载自 Parenting 讨论区 】
发信人: sparty (I write; therefore I am), 信区: Parenting
标 题: Re: 贿赂孩子是不是不好的方式?
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu May 5 21:39:36 2011, 美东)
非常不好。贿赂/威胁孩子的行为,本质就是用物质的东西来manipulate孩子。
如果家长长期经常这样做,后果是等到小... 阅读全帖
G****e
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【 以下文字转载自 WaterWorld 讨论区 】
发信人: GoBlue (Wolverines), 信区: WaterWorld
标 题: 有关穆斯林总结,一切尽在此回复中
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Jan 22 02:32:21 2015, 美东)
有关穆斯林宗教,来自Facebook上Michael Shea的回复:
For all of the “We want peace, let’s welcome our peaceful Muslim brothers
” people out there and all the do-gooders out there, and all those “
Coexist” folks, let me share a little bit of an inconvenient truth about
the world of Islam.
Islam is fundamentally an “expansionist” religion, with no pretenses to
accept or even tole... 阅读全帖
l***y
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not for the sake of arguing --okay, for the sake of arguing, not every
book offer the same thing, some are not to offer the reader the freedom
to interpret and re-create, this head-space you're talking about. i rather
like a book that can take me to a place i wouldn't have gone, ever, on
my own.
on reflection, i read this somewhere after reading or's comment, and it
struck a cord (above the neck somewhere, of course):
. . . the funniest
mortals and the kindest are those who are most aware
of
c****t
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来自主题: SciFiction版 - 云图 英文版
HALF-LIVES
the first luisa rey
mystery
I
Rufus Sixsmith leans over the balcony and estimates his body’s velocity
when it hits the
sidewalk and lays his dilemmas to rest. A telephone rings in the unlit room.
Sixsmith dares not
answer. Disco music booms from the next apartment, where a party is in full
swing, and
Sixsmith feels older than his sixty-six years. Smog obscures the stars, but
north and south
along the coastal strip, Buenas Yerbas’s billion lights simmer. West, the
Pacific eternity East... 阅读全帖
C***r
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来自主题: Thoughts版 - book 6:1-4
BOOK VI.
ARGUMENT.
HITHERTO THE ARGUMENT HAS BEEN CONDUCTED AGAINST THOSE WHO
BELIEVE THAT THE GODS ARE TO
BE WORSHIPPED FOR THE SAKE OF TEMPORAL ADVANTAGES, NOW IT IS
DIRECTED AGAINST THOSE WHO
BELIEVE THAT THEY ARE TO BE WORSHIPPED FOR THE SAKE OF
ETERNAL LIFE. AUGUSTIN DEVOTES THE
FIVE FOLLOWING BOOKS TO THE CONFUTATION OF THIS LATTER
BELIEF, AND FIRST OF ALL SHOWS HOW
MEAN AN OPINION OF THE GODS WAS HELD BY VARRO HIMSELF, THE
MOST ESTEEMED WRITER ON
HEATHEN THEOLOGY. OF THIS THEOLOGY AUGUSTI
w*****e
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Whatever the circumstance is, whatever the situation is, we have to examine
ourselves if we are speaking for the sake of Christ, or for the sake of
ourselves. God's love is unconditional and unlimited. He does not tolerate
at all, because He is all light and there is no dark in Him, that is why we
say He is just! He is merciful in judging. And His mercy is for everyone,
not only limited to Christians. We are not saved because we have repented,
but because God decided to do so, if we can repent t... 阅读全帖
D*****r
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - <一年读完little bessie> chapter 1
by Mark Twain from Fables of Man (1908)
Little Bessie was nearly three years old. She was a good child, and not
shallow, not frivolous, but meditative and thoughtful, and much given to
thinking out the reasons of things and trying to make them harmonise with
results. One day she said --
"Mamma, why is there so much pain and sorrow and suffering? What is it all
for?"
It was an easy question, and mamma had no difficulty in answering it:
"It is for our good, my child. In His wisdom and mercy the Lo... 阅读全帖
D*****r
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - Smullyan: Planet Without Laughter
http://www-cs-faculty.stanford.edu/~uno/smullyan.html
[excerpted from This Book Needs No Title: A Budget of Living Paradoxes by
Raymund Smullyan (Englewood Cliffs, New Jersey: Prentice-Hall, 1980).
Copyright (c) 1980 by Raymond M. Smullyan; all rights reserved.]
I. The Modern Period
Once upon a time there was a universe. In this universe there was a planet.
On this planet there was virtually no laughter. Nothing like ``humor'' was
really known. People never laughed, nor jested, nor kidded, nor j... 阅读全帖
w******g
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 砍来主恢复的召会的的确有问题
神成为人,为要使人成为神,这不是召会的弟兄姊妹先发明的。
多位教父都有类似发表,如下(摘自维基):
St. Irenaeus of Lyons stated that God "became what we are in order to make
us what he is himself."[6]
St. Clement of Alexandria says that "he who obeys the Lord and follows the
prophecy given through him . . . becomes a god while still moving about in
the flesh." [7]
St. Athanasius wrote that "God became man so that men might become gods."[8]
St. Cyril of Alexandria says that we "are called `temples of God' and indeed
`gods,' and so we are."
St. ... 阅读全帖
C****i
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 用爱心说诚实话 --改革宗传福音之道
用爱心说诚实话

--改革宗传福音之道

Kim Riddlebarger 博士
一、 糟糕的指责 – 改革宗为什么不传福音?
不管有没有道理,改革宗都背上了不关心传福音的恶名。尽管有一些很奇妙的例外,但
有一些批评肯定是有道理的。为什么会这样?介绍一些历史背景会有帮助。
1、 辉煌的过去 – 值得质疑的现状
从历史上看,改革宗有着传福音和差传的辉煌历史。确实,欧洲和新世界的基督化是宗
教改革,拼命强调唯独信心,唯独圣经的结果,这是不可轻看的。可以把加拿大和美国
这些抗罗宗国家和像墨西哥,巴西这些天主教国家作一个对比。
第一次“大觉醒”,以及其主导人物,比如约拿·单爱德华滋和乔治·怀特腓,主要是
带历史性的改革宗特色的, 有怀特腓出名的布道《基督我们的义》,爱德华滋经典的《
落在愤怒神手中的罪人》为例。然而约翰卫斯理也是第一次大觉醒不可分割的一部分,
以及甚至像怀特腓和爱德华滋这些加尔文主义者也强调的“归正经历”,这些在许多方
面为第二次大觉醒打下了根基,而第二次大觉醒是在很大程度上废除了第一次大觉醒中
的加尔文主义强调重点的。
由查尔斯·芬尼领导的第二次大... 阅读全帖
C****i
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 韦斯敏斯德信条 第十一章 论称义
CHAPTER XI
Of Justification
I. Those whom God effectually calleth, he also freely justifieth:[235] not
by infusing righteousness into them, but by pardoning their sins, and by
accounting and accepting their persons as righteous; not for anything
wrought in them, or done by them, but for Christ’s sake alone; nor by
imputing faith itself, the act of believing, or any other evangelical
obedience to them, as their righteousness; but by imputing the obedience and
satisfaction of Christ unto them,[236... 阅读全帖
C****i
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 当代正统神学的任务 林慈信
n
当代正统神学的任务﹝十五﹞


回应时代,弄巧反拙:神格唯一论(一)
每一个时代,教会必须面临世界的需求和挑战。如何面对这些需求?如何回应,服事那
一代?如何维持教会的适切性,而不妥协《圣经》启示的真理?如何爱人群,作外展,
而不扭曲福音信息?这就是智慧之所在,唯有圣灵能赐下,唯有《圣经》能教导我们。
这些当代的需求,看起来往往十分合理。可是若不先建立教会自己的教义(真理)体系
,建立自己独特的价值观,世界观,同时衡量、检讨、重建世俗的世界观与价值观,而
仅为了响应需求而建立一些模式,策略,与技巧,就很容易同流合污了。护教与神学的
历史,充满着这样的例子。
譬如,人们的心灵,婚姻是破碎的。我们为了服事破碎的人,就可以不加思索地大量进
口世俗心理学的人观吗?世俗心理学的人观,包括佛洛伊德的,罗杰斯的(万全人本主
义,两者都反对基督教),行为主义的(视人与动物一样),新纪元运动的哲学(邪教
与心理学的结合)等,我们有没有意识到?
人们需要一位满有人性,有血有肉的救主。我们宣讲耶稣基督的人性吗?当然,讲解《
路加福音》就行了;可是,不可妥协耶稣基督的神性和主权。祂是宇宙的创造... 阅读全帖
C****i
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CHAPTER XVII
Of the Perseverance of the Saints
I. They, whom God hath accepted in his Beloved, effectually called, and sanc
tified by his Spirit, can neither totally nor finally fall away from the sta
te of grace, but shall certainly persevere therein to the end, and be eterna
lly saved.[334]
II. This perseverance of the saints depends not upon their own free will, bu
t upon the immutability of the decree of election, flowing from the free and
unchangeable love of God the Father;[335] upon the e... 阅读全帖
l**********t
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chapter 13.2 The Subjective Working Of The Cross
We must keep before us now four passages from the Gospels. They are: Matthew
10:34-39; Mark 8:32-35; Luke 17:32-34; and John 12:24-26. These four
passages have something in common. In each you have the Lord Himself
speaking to us concerning the soul-activity of man, and in each a different
aspect or manifestation of the soul-life is touched upon. In these verses He
makes it very plain that the soul of man can be dealt with in one way and
in one wa... 阅读全帖
R*o
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - Study and Exposition of Romans 1:1-7
C. Full Exegetical Outline
I. The nature of Paul's Christian vocation was that he was a slave of Christ
Jesus, called as an apostle, and set apart for the gospel of God-that is, t
he promised good news concerning Jesus Christ (his humanity and divine natur
e)-and that through him Paul received, for the sake of Christ's name of "Lor
d," grace and apostleship in order to lead Gentiles to trust Christ (1:1-5).
A. The nature of Paul's vocation was that he was a servant of Christ Jesus,
called as an ... 阅读全帖
R*o
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - Study and Exposition of Romans 1:1-7
C. Full Exegetical Outline
I. The nature of Paul's Christian vocation was that he was a slave of Christ
Jesus, called as an apostle, and set apart for the gospel of God-that is, t
he promised good news concerning Jesus Christ (his humanity and divine natur
e)-and that through him Paul received, for the sake of Christ's name of "Lor
d," grace and apostleship in order to lead Gentiles to trust Christ (1:1-5).
A. The nature of Paul's vocation was that he was a servant of Christ Jesus,
called as an ... 阅读全帖
C*****e
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - Glossary to the Westminster Confession
【 以下文字转载自 Church 俱乐部 】
发信人: CCBible (神同在圣经), 信区: Church
标 题: Glossary to the Westminster Confession
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Apr 24 21:16:33 2012, 美东)
Glossary to the Westminster Confession
Explanations of all archaic and uncommon words, usages, and expressions, in
the order in which they occur.
Title Confession. n. Public statement of religious beliefs.
1.1 Providence. n. Divine care. Manifest. v. Show. Are they. idiom. T
hey are. Unto. prep. With regard to. Sundry. adj. Separate. D... 阅读全帖
l**********t
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - Religion, Self-Regulation, and Self-Control

IMHO, the very definition of "goodness" itself is created by God for human.
So ”Do good, for the sake of goodness" is indirectly honoring God's
commandments. Unfortunately, removing God out of the picture, "goodness"
will gradually lose its meaning, and ”Do good, for the sake of goodness"
will become a vain slogan.
l**********t
发帖数: 5754
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 【约翰福音】 2:1-12 头一件神迹

good summary.
In addition, John Calvin commented on the status of Mary --"This saying of
Christ openly and manifestly warns men to beware lest, by too
superstitiously elevating the honor of the name of mother in the Virgin Mary
, “En la vierge Marie.” they transfer to her what belongs exclusively to
God"
"
Woman, what have I to do with thee?
Why does Christ repel her so rashly? I reply, though she was not moved by
ambition, nor by any carnal affection, still she did wrong in going beyond
her pr... 阅读全帖
r**t
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Biblical inerrancy is a very Protestant approach to the Holy Scripture. It
’s difficult to modify the Holy Church past 2,000 years’ understandings to
the Protestant frame work. But since you guys are so interested in this
topic. Here’s the simplified answer for you.
Catechism 107
107 The inspired books teach the truth. "Since therefore all that the
inspired authors or sacred writers affirm should be regarded as affirmed by
the Holy Spirit, we must acknowledge that the books of Scripture firm... 阅读全帖
l**********t
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吃饼得饱。
--没有十架的基督
"
Christ does not reply to the question put to him, which would have been
fitted to show to them his power in having come thither by a miracle. But,
on the contrary, he chides them for throwing themselves forward without
consideration; for they were not acquainted with the true and proper reason
of what he did, because they sought in Christ something else than Christ
himself. The fault which he complains of in them is, that they seek Christ
for the sake of the belly and not of t... 阅读全帖
T*****n
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 基督教先哲反对生育控制
Contraception
Historically, Christians always have condemned contraceptive sex. The two
forms mentioned in the Bible, and sterilization, are
condemned without exception (Gen. 38:9-10, Deut. 23:1). The Fathers of the
Church recognized that in natural law the purpose of sexual intercourse is
procreation; contraceptive sex, which deliberately blocks that natural
purpose, is therefore a violation of natural law.
Every church in Christendom condemned contraception until 1930, whe... 阅读全帖
T*****n
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JOINT DECLARATIONON THE DOCTRINE OF JUSTIFICATION
by the Lutheran World Federation and the Catholic Church
Preamble
1.The doctrine of justification was of central importance for the Lutheran
Reformation of the sixteenth century. It was held to be the "first and chief
article"[1] and at the same time the "ruler and judge over all other
Christian doctrines."[2] The doctrine of justification was particularly
asserted and defended in its Reformation shape and special valuation over
against the Roman... 阅读全帖
z********o
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 说说我现在

“大多数基督徒认为这句是指大审判之后的预言”并不等于这节经文就是这个意思。中
英文对照:
以赛亚书 48:11 我为自己的缘故必行这事,我焉能使我的名被亵渎,我必不将我的荣
耀归给假神。
For my own sake, for my own sake, I do this. How can I let myself be defamed
? I will not yield my glory to another.
以西结书 39:7 我要在我民以色列中显出我的圣名,也不容我的圣名再被亵渎,列国人
就知道我是耶和华以色列中的圣者。
"'I will make known my holy name among my people Israel. I will no longer
let my holy name be profaned, and the nations will know that I the LORD am
the Holy One in Israel.
中英文对照,上下文清清楚楚。你的阅读能力不至于那么差吧?为什么要自欺欺人呢?
z********o
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 说说我现在

以赛亚书 48:11 我为自己的缘故必行这事,我焉能使我的名被亵渎,我必不将我
的荣耀归给假神。
For my own sake, for my own sake, I do this. How can I let myself be defamed
? I will not yield my glory to another.
以西结书 39:7 我要在我民以色列中显出我的圣名,也不容我的圣名再被亵渎,列
国人就知道我是耶和华以色列中的圣者。
"'I will make known my holy name among my people Israel. I will no longer
let my holy name be profaned, and the nations will know that I the LORD am
the Holy One in Israel.
难道你认为这两节经文表达的意思是:“我先要允许人们亵渎我的名,将来的某一天之
后就不再允许了。”???
s*******w
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 美国的那些事1
弗里德曼给习近平的公开信
美国具有影响力的纽约时报国际事务专栏专家托马斯•弗里德曼12月14日发表了
一封给中国国家主席习近平的公开信。由于中国最近拒绝给纽约时报和彭博新闻社等美
国媒体20多名驻华记者续签签证,弗里德曼呼吁习近平要反腐,而不要怪罪披露中共高
层官员腐败问题的记者。
这位蜚声天下,著有《世界是平的》一书的新闻从业者在公开信中说,华尔街日报、路
透社的中文网站最近被封,彭博新闻社和纽约时报的网站也被封了好几个月 了。特别
是纽约时报和彭博新闻社的20多名驻华记者需要在12月底之前续签,但是中国政府拒绝
给他们续签。这显然是对这两家新闻机构的报复,因为他们披露 了包括习近平在内的
中国高层领导人的亲属聚敛巨额财富的问题。
弗里德曼曾经三次获得美国的新闻大奖普利策奖。他在公开信中说,中国专家告诉他,
这次对美国记者前往所有的做法是因为,习近平认为美国媒体“越过了红 线”。而习
近平显然把游戏规则理解为,外媒、中媒和社交媒体只能报道地方和省级官员的腐败,
但决不能报道中共高层领导人的金融交易。
弗里德曼说,不是外媒记者,而是习近平的一些同事及他们的子女越过了红线。他... 阅读全帖
s*******w
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 美国的那些事1
弗里德曼给习近平的公开信
美国具有影响力的纽约时报国际事务专栏专家托马斯•弗里德曼12月14日发表了
一封给中国国家主席习近平的公开信。由于中国最近拒绝给纽约时报和彭博新闻社等美
国媒体20多名驻华记者续签签证,弗里德曼呼吁习近平要反腐,而不要怪罪披露中共高
层官员腐败问题的记者。
这位蜚声天下,著有《世界是平的》一书的新闻从业者在公开信中说,华尔街日报、路
透社的中文网站最近被封,彭博新闻社和纽约时报的网站也被封了好几个月 了。特别
是纽约时报和彭博新闻社的20多名驻华记者需要在12月底之前续签,但是中国政府拒绝
给他们续签。这显然是对这两家新闻机构的报复,因为他们披露 了包括习近平在内的
中国高层领导人的亲属聚敛巨额财富的问题。
弗里德曼曾经三次获得美国的新闻大奖普利策奖。他在公开信中说,中国专家告诉他,
这次对美国记者前往所有的做法是因为,习近平认为美国媒体“越过了红 线”。而习
近平显然把游戏规则理解为,外媒、中媒和社交媒体只能报道地方和省级官员的腐败,
但决不能报道中共高层领导人的金融交易。
弗里德曼说,不是外媒记者,而是习近平的一些同事及他们的子女越过了红线。他... 阅读全帖
y****n
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Category 8: Jesus’ call for self-mutilation.
Matt. 19: 12 is the usual quotation for this bizarre approval supposedly
given by Jesus for men to castrate themselves ―for heaven‘s sake, if they
‘ve got the guts. The quote is, …and there be eunuchs, which have made
themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven‘s sake. He that is able to
receive it, let him receive it." Church father Origen, as well as some of
the more recent believers involved in the Heaven‘s Gate cult apparently
took this verse lit... 阅读全帖
J*******g
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 我所在的美国华人教会
Philipians 3
4 If someone else thinks they have reasons to put confidence in the flesh, I
have more: 5 circumcised on the eighth day, of the people of Israel, of the
tribe of Benjamin, a Hebrew of Hebrews; in regard to the law, a Pharisee; 6
as for zeal, persecuting the church; as for righteousness based on the law,
faultless.
保罗曾说自己按律法,完全是个圣徒。可是他却这么说 "I consider them garbage."
7 But whatever were gains to me I now consider loss for the sake of Christ.
8 What is more, I consider everything a los... 阅读全帖
z********o
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - Christian God does NOT exist (simple proof)
被人忽悠取英文论坛和基们辩论。交手几招,基们辩论不过,就把我封禁了。趁着帖子
还在,在这里留个底。
Is there a God? Or, does God exist?
My answer is: I don't know. Because I can neither prove nor disprove the
existence of a God.
Then why we can prove that the Christian God does NOT exist? The answer is:
information. Before I proceed to present my proof, let me give an example
first. Let's say:
1) if I tell you there is a strange horse-like animal but with two-heads and
three tails on earth. You may choose not to believe me, but can you prove I
... 阅读全帖
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这可是你自己转的,你同意么?
Experts Say Strong Faith Key to Stable Marriages
专家说强烈的信心才是稳定婚姻的关键。说明那些离婚的是对神的信心不够。
However, Focus on the Family's Family Formation Studies Director, Glenn
Stanton, believes a differentiation must be made between those who are truly
practicing their faith and those that are simply affiliated with a church.
那些真正信仰神的,按耶稣的教导做的,跟只是再教会挂名的要区别对待。
For Christians, Stanton and Hastings both agree the key to a divorce-proof
marriage is strong faith.
专家一致认为对神的坚定的信心是防止离婚的关键。
"[If you are] goin... 阅读全帖
S**U
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来自主题: Wisdom版 - 请教(二)
zan
我对经文的解读与师兄不同∶
说老死厌患,离欲,灭尽,是名法师;说生、有、取、爱、受、触、六入处、名色、识
厌患,离欲,灭尽,是名法师。
是指「说的是解脱法」,就是法师。解脱法是∶正观缘起而对无常法厌患,离欲,灭尽
,正向涅盘。
当然能以身证得解脱法,是更殊胜的法师。
对照南传更明白:
If a monk teaches the Dhamma for the sake of disenchantment, dispassion, &
cessation with regard to aging & death, he deserves to be called a monk who
is a speaker of Dhamma. If he practices for the sake of disenchantment,
dispassion, & cessation with regard to aging & death, he deserves to be
called a monk who practices the Dhamma in accordance with ... 阅读全帖
T*******y
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来自主题: Wisdom版 - 对话守则
"如果一方非要另外一方给予道歉或者说法才可以让自己名誉无暇。"
Forgiving does not need the other person to apologize. Apologizing is for SeeU's sake, not for Yisu's sake.
"本版大小乘之争,比如上次rapier的帖子,yisu非要另外开贴,才导致版面争论了好几天的。"
I don't know whether it's because yisu另外开贴 or whether it's just the
topic that was sensitive here. Hermes99 said that that post was like opening a can of worms much earlier than yisu另外开贴.
Also, I liked the debates here, at least they helped me to know many terms, and it's an opportunity to see how each one beh... 阅读全帖
J******s
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来自主题: Wisdom版 - 对话守则
SeeU为什么要道歉?
版主的行为对版面导向有很大作用的。
争论本来没有什么,我喜欢针对观点本身有理有据的讨论或者争论。
至少表明关注问题而不是关注个人。

SeeU's sake, not for Yisu's sake.
好几天的。"
opening a can of worms much earlier than yisu另外开贴.
, and it's an opportunity to see how each one behaved in such circumstances.
J******s
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来自主题: Wisdom版 - 对话守则
另外,我一直觉得从debates去分析别人的表现没有什么意义,或者说这个不是应该从
争论或者讨论里主要获得的东西。人与人之间的矛盾很多时候是因为思维模式本身导致
的。同一个问题不同的人会有完全不同的理解,由此衍生很多看法和情绪。对错很多时
候都是非常相对的。
争论或者讨论的意义在于让观点更明确,或者从自己的表述中整理清楚思路。更了解自
己。

SeeU's sake, not for Yisu's sake.
好几天的。"
opening a can of worms much earlier than yisu另外开贴.
, and it's an opportunity to see how each one behaved in such circumstances.
J******s
发帖数: 7538
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来自主题: Wisdom版 - 对话守则
如果SeeU要道歉。我是不是也可以要求Yisu改变当时对我的一些看法和认识呢?
比如我不帮她搞书写大千活动不是对她不支持,或者我当时内心的理由也应该被她理解
,而不是她认为的我伤害了她的感情呢?
非要讨个说法就那么重要麽?

SeeU's sake, not for Yisu's sake.
好几天的。"
opening a can of worms much earlier than yisu另外开贴.
, and it's an opportunity to see how each one behaved in such circumstances.
Y**u
发帖数: 5466
46
来自主题: Wisdom版 - [合集] 对话守则
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SeeU (See you) 于 (Mon Dec 19 16:28:55 2011, 美东) 提到:
哈维尔等在布拉格“公民论坛”制定的对话守则∶
1. 对话的目的是寻求真理,不是为了斗争。
2. 不做人身攻击。
3. 保持主题。
4. 辩论时要用证据。
5. 不要坚持错误不改。
6. 要分清对话与只准自己讲话的区别。
7. 对话要有记录。(按∶匿名也要负责。)
8. 尽量理解对方。
RIP: Vaclav Havel, Oct. 5, 1936-Dec. 18, 2011
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waterer (快义恩仇之灌水山寨王) 于 (Mon Dec 19 17:11:22 2011, 美东) 提到:
色大师的对话守则就是,
1 对老子就利就出头,对老子无利就王八缩头。
2 老子不喜欢的就告他PA,但老子喜欢的人PA老子就装他妈的看不见。
3 叉乘才是真理,真理就是叉乘。
4 狗肯定要继续吃X,但一定要对外宣称不再吃了。... 阅读全帖
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